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Old December 15th 08, 09:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
T
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Default ZoneAlarm 8.0.065 breaks System Restore

I updated my copy of ZoneAlarm to 8.0.065 and have found that this has a
reworked interface, reduced functionality e.g. no zones and breaks system
restore! What are ZoneAlarm doing?
I have now reverted to 7.0.483 but accept that I will have to find a
different Firewall at some stage.


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Old December 15th 08, 09:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default ZoneAlarm 8.0.065 breaks System Restore


"T" wrote in message
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I updated my copy of ZoneAlarm to 8.0.065 and have found that this has a
reworked interface, reduced functionality e.g. no zones and breaks system
restore! What are ZoneAlarm doing?
I have now reverted to 7.0.483 but accept that I will have to find a
different Firewall at some stage.




Yes

I got rid of Zone Alarm and went with Comodo.


No more problems


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Old December 15th 08, 10:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R. McCarty
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Default ZoneAlarm 8.0.065 breaks System Restore

I've left Zone Labs behind, I now use a program called Online-Armor
from Tallemu. They offer a free version from their website.
http://www.tallemu.com/downloads.html
*3rd down in the product listing

"T" wrote in message
...
I updated my copy of ZoneAlarm to 8.0.065 and have found that this has a
reworked interface, reduced functionality e.g. no zones and breaks system
restore! What are ZoneAlarm doing?
I have now reverted to 7.0.483 but accept that I will have to find a
different Firewall at some stage.



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Old December 15th 08, 10:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
PA Bear [MS MVP]
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Default ZoneAlarm 8.0.065 breaks System Restore

ZA User Forum
http://forums.zonelabs.com/zonelabs
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MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

T wrote:
I updated my copy of ZoneAlarm to 8.0.065 and have found that this has a
reworked interface, reduced functionality e.g. no zones and breaks system
restore! What are ZoneAlarm doing?
I have now reverted to 7.0.483 but accept that I will have to find a
different Firewall at some stage.

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Old December 15th 08, 10:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul Smith
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Default ZoneAlarm 8.0.065 breaks System Restore

"T" wrote in message
...
I updated my copy of ZoneAlarm to 8.0.065 and have found that this has a
reworked interface, reduced functionality e.g. no zones and breaks system
restore! What are ZoneAlarm doing?
I have now reverted to 7.0.483 but accept that I will have to find a
different Firewall at some stage.


The built in SP2 and up firewall works fine, without any nagging.

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Old December 15th 08, 10:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Lars-Erik Østerud
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Default ZoneAlarm 8.0.065 breaks System Restore

T wrote:

I updated my copy of ZoneAlarm to 8.0.065 and have found that this has a
reworked interface, reduced functionality e.g. no zones and breaks system


I still use 4.5.594

Last free version that is small, fast and don't have lots of extra
stuff
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Lars-Erik Østerud : http://www.osterud.name
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Old December 16th 08, 12:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Kayman[_7_]
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Default ZoneAlarm 8.0.065 breaks System Restore

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:45:52 -0000, T wrote:

I updated my copy of ZoneAlarm to 8.0.065 and have found that this has a
reworked interface, reduced functionality e.g. no zones and breaks system
restore! What are ZoneAlarm doing?
I have now reverted to 7.0.483 but accept that I will have to find a
different Firewall at some stage.


To remove ZoneAlarm completely from your computer in case normal uninstall
can¡¦t be run or doesn¡¦t run properly...
http://forums.zonealarm.com/zonelabs...message.id=103
--or--
http://zonealarm.donhoover.net/uninstall.html

For the average homeuser, the Windows Firewall in XP does a fantastic job
at its core mission and is really all you need if you have an 'real-time'
anti-virus program, [another firewall on your router or] other edge
protection like SeconfigXP and practise Safe-Hex.
The windows firewall deals with inbound protection and therefore does not
give you a false sense of security. Best of all, it doesn't implement lots
of nonsense like pretending that outbound traffic needs to be monitored.

Activate and utilize the Win XP built-in Firewall; Uncheck *all* Programs
and Services under the Exception tab.

Windows XP: How to turn on your firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/protect/com...rewall/xp.mspx

Read through:
Understanding Windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...2_wfintro.mspx

Using Windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...nfirewall.mspx

How to manually open ports in Internet Connection Firewall in Windows XP.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308127

How to Configure Windows Firewall on a Single Computer.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../cfgfwall.mspx

Troubleshooting Windows Firewall settings in Windows XP Service Pack 2.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=875357

PFW Criticism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona...all#Criticisms

"Personal Firewalls" are mostly snake-oil.
http://www.samspade.org/d/firewalls.html

Why your firewall sucks.
http://tooleaky.zensoft.com/
"But I quickly realized the truth: The added protection provided by
outbound filtering is entirely illusory."

At Least This Snake Oil Is Free.
http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesp...l-is-free.aspx

Deconstructing Common Security Myths.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...s/default.aspx
Scroll down to:
"Myth: Host-Based Firewalls Must Filter Outbound Traffic to be Safe."

Exploring the windows Firewall.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...l/default.aspx
"Outbound protection is security theater¡Xit¡¦s a gimmick that only gives the
impression of improving your security without doing anything that actually
does improve your security."

In conjunction with WinXP SP2 Firewall use:
Seconfig XP 1.0
http://seconfig.sytes.net/
(http://www.softpedia.com/progDownloa...oad-39707.html)
Seconfig XP is able configure Windows not to use TCP/IP as transport
protocol for NetBIOS, SMB and RPC, thus leaving TCP/UDP ports 135, 137-139
and 445 (the most exploited Windows networking weak point) closed.

Routinely practice Safe-Hex.
http://www.claymania.com/safe-hex.html
Hundreds Click on 'Click Here to Get Infected' Ad
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2132447,00.asp

Good luck
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Old December 16th 08, 12:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
bobster[_2_]
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Default ZoneAlarm 8.0.065 breaks System Restore

"T"
Recently, I received an automatic notice from ZA saying that V8.0.065 was
available for download. As I had used ZA since Version 4 relatively
trouble-free, I upgraded. Everything seemed to work fine.

Then yesterday, I tried to do a "System Restore" on my Dell XP SP3 machine
and found that the function was broken. After trying a number of tricks, I
finally called Dell tech support. I spent about an hour working with a guy
who finally told me that I would need to do a complete re-install of XP. At
that point I said thank you very much and bailed out as my computer was
working fine except for the restore problem and I wasn't about to go through
the hell of a re-install.

Then, I got lucky and read your post, un-installed V8 and re-installed V7.
Voila! Problem solved.

Now I realize that I should have backtracked to see what recent changes I
had made-- and I usually document them -- but this ZA upgrade seemed so
unrelated to the restore function problem that it just didn't occur to me
that they could be related.

Thanks, "T". One more lesson learned



"T" wrote in message
...
I updated my copy of ZoneAlarm to 8.0.065 and have found that this has a
reworked interface, reduced functionality e.g. no zones and breaks system
restore! What are ZoneAlarm doing?
I have now reverted to 7.0.483 but accept that I will have to find a
different Firewall at some stage.



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Old December 16th 08, 12:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Twayne[_2_]
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Default ZoneAlarm 8.0.065 breaks System Restore

"T"
Recently, I received an automatic notice from ZA saying that V8.0.065
was available for download. As I had used ZA since Version 4
relatively trouble-free, I upgraded. Everything seemed to work fine.

Then yesterday, I tried to do a "System Restore" on my Dell XP SP3
machine and found that the function was broken. After trying a
number of tricks, I finally called Dell tech support. I spent about
an hour working with a guy who finally told me that I would need to
do a complete re-install of XP. At that point I said thank you very
much and bailed out as my computer was working fine except for the
restore problem and I wasn't about to go through the hell of a
re-install.

Then, I got lucky and read your post, un-installed V8 and
re-installed V7. Voila! Problem solved.

Now I realize that I should have backtracked to see what recent
changes I had made-- and I usually document them -- but this ZA
upgrade seemed so unrelated to the restore function problem that it
just didn't occur to me that they could be related.

Thanks, "T". One more lesson learned



"T" wrote in message
...
I updated my copy of ZoneAlarm to 8.0.065 and have found that this
has a reworked interface, reduced functionality e.g. no zones and
breaks system restore! What are ZoneAlarm doing?
I have now reverted to 7.0.483 but accept that I will have to find a
different Firewall at some stage.


Huh: no such problems here. Wonder what the difference is? I used
Restore yesterday to back up the system files to two days ago; worked
perfectly. V8 was installed a couple weeks ago IIRC.
Anyone check with ZA?

Twayne


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Old December 16th 08, 01:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Gerry
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Default ZoneAlarm 8.0.065 breaks System Restore

Twayne

Perhaps your registrty cleaner fixed the problem before you used system
restore.

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Twayne wrote:
"T"
Recently, I received an automatic notice from ZA saying that V8.0.065
was available for download. As I had used ZA since Version 4
relatively trouble-free, I upgraded. Everything seemed to work fine.

Then yesterday, I tried to do a "System Restore" on my Dell XP SP3
machine and found that the function was broken. After trying a
number of tricks, I finally called Dell tech support. I spent about
an hour working with a guy who finally told me that I would need to
do a complete re-install of XP. At that point I said thank you very
much and bailed out as my computer was working fine except for the
restore problem and I wasn't about to go through the hell of a
re-install.

Then, I got lucky and read your post, un-installed V8 and
re-installed V7. Voila! Problem solved.

Now I realize that I should have backtracked to see what recent
changes I had made-- and I usually document them -- but this ZA
upgrade seemed so unrelated to the restore function problem that it
just didn't occur to me that they could be related.

Thanks, "T". One more lesson learned



"T" wrote in message
...
I updated my copy of ZoneAlarm to 8.0.065 and have found that this
has a reworked interface, reduced functionality e.g. no zones and
breaks system restore! What are ZoneAlarm doing?
I have now reverted to 7.0.483 but accept that I will have to find a
different Firewall at some stage.


Huh: no such problems here. Wonder what the difference is? I used
Restore yesterday to back up the system files to two days ago; worked
perfectly. V8 was installed a couple weeks ago IIRC.
Anyone check with ZA?

Twayne



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Old December 16th 08, 04:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Anthony Buckland
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Default ZoneAlarm 8.0.065 breaks System Restore


"Lars-Erik Østerud" .@. wrote in message
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T wrote:

I updated my copy of ZoneAlarm to 8.0.065 and have found that this has a
reworked interface, reduced functionality e.g. no zones and breaks system


I still use 4.5.594

Last free version that is small, fast and don't have lots of extra
stuff
--
Lars-Erik Østerud : http://www.osterud.name


Are you still getting virus database updates for that old a version?


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Old December 16th 08, 08:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
M.I.5¾
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Default ZoneAlarm 8.0.065 breaks System Restore


"T" wrote in message
...
I updated my copy of ZoneAlarm to 8.0.065 and have found that this has a
reworked interface, reduced functionality e.g. no zones and breaks system
restore! What are ZoneAlarm doing?
I have now reverted to 7.0.483 but accept that I will have to find a
different Firewall at some stage.


Zone alarm used to be the dog's whatsits of free firewall applications. But
now that it is run by a commercial company just about anything is better.
Zone Alarm have had several problems with updates that break PCs, but the
biggest problem of all is the interminable time it adds to a PC's boot time.

Version 5.x.x was tha last incarnation that was any good.


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Old December 16th 08, 08:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
M.I.5¾
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Default ZoneAlarm 8.0.065 breaks System Restore


"Anthony Buckland" wrote in message
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"Lars-Erik Østerud" .@. wrote in message
...
T wrote:

I updated my copy of ZoneAlarm to 8.0.065 and have found that this has a
reworked interface, reduced functionality e.g. no zones and breaks
system


I still use 4.5.594

Last free version that is small, fast and don't have lots of extra
stuff
--
Lars-Erik Østerud : http://www.osterud.name


Are you still getting virus database updates for that old a version?


Why would you get virus updates when Zone Alarm has no such functionality?


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Old December 16th 08, 09:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Gerry
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Default ZoneAlarm 8.0.065 breaks System Restore

M.I.5¾

Zone Alarm now provides more than just the original firewall!
http://www.zonealarm.com/store/conte...talog_main.jsp

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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M.I.5¾ wrote:
"Anthony Buckland" wrote in message
...

"Lars-Erik Østerud" .@. wrote in message
...
T wrote:

I updated my copy of ZoneAlarm to 8.0.065 and have found that this
has a reworked interface, reduced functionality e.g. no zones and
breaks system

I still use 4.5.594

Last free version that is small, fast and don't have lots of extra
stuff
--
Lars-Erik Østerud : http://www.osterud.name


Are you still getting virus database updates for that old a version?


Why would you get virus updates when Zone Alarm has no such
functionality?



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Old December 16th 08, 11:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
M.I.5¾
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Default ZoneAlarm 8.0.065 breaks System Restore


"Gerry" wrote in message
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M.I.5¾

Zone Alarm now provides more than just the original firewall!
http://www.zonealarm.com/store/conte...talog_main.jsp


But the version 4 that was mentioned - doesn't.


 




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