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  #16  
Old March 30th 09, 11:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
THE C. [MS MVP]
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Default Some file on this volume could not be defragmented

Spelling? If you say so. Reading your posts and reply's in this NG, "You"
remind me of Peter Foldes, who is "blind, leading the blind." Make it a great
day.
--
Computer/Software Tech.


Charles Richmond
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/



"Gerry" wrote:

I hope your spelling was better then than it is now. Clues are of no
interest. Transparency is a simple solution. I can see no reason to shelter
in anonymity.


--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


THE C. [MS MVP] wrote:
Gerry I have written 2 books on Basic Internet Usauge. Just another
clue for those who wish to seek me!

Touch Base

What are you trying to say?


--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Touch Base wrote:
"Gerry" wrote in message
...
When were you awarded the MS MVP status you claim and under what
name?




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  #17  
Old March 30th 09, 11:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
THE C. [MS MVP]
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Posts: 71
Default Some file on this volume could not be defragmented

Spelling? If you say so. Reading your posts and reply's in this NG, "You"
remind me of Peter Foldes, who is "blind, leading the blind." Make it a great
day.
--
Computer/Software Tech.


Charles Richmond
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/



"Gerry" wrote:

I hope your spelling was better then than it is now. Clues are of no
interest. Transparency is a simple solution. I can see no reason to shelter
in anonymity.


--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


THE C. [MS MVP] wrote:
Gerry I have written 2 books on Basic Internet Usauge. Just another
clue for those who wish to seek me!

Touch Base

What are you trying to say?


--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Touch Base wrote:
"Gerry" wrote in message
...
When were you awarded the MS MVP status you claim and under what
name?




  #18  
Old March 30th 09, 01:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
teresa
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Posts: 34
Default Some file on this volume could not be defragmented

Hi,

Thanks for your suggestion. May i know would there be any risk if i disable
the pagefile setting? I just want to defrag my pc in order to speed up
loading of files. I do not want my pc to go nuts....

"Gerry" wrote:


Teresa

The problem is probably the multi-fragmented pagefile, which
effectively is fragmenting the free space is many small pockets. Given
the amount of free disk space you will be able to greatly imptove but I
am not sure that you now be able to recreate a contiguous pagefile. You
have followed the conventional advice to let Windows manage the
pagefile and reaped the harvest.

My first suggestion is that you download and install cCleaner
(freeware). I will explain about using it later.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/

You should now change your pagefile settings. Select Start, Control
Panel, System, Advanced, Performance Settings, Advanced, Virtual Memory,
Change and place the cursor on C drive in the next window. Check the box
before "No pagefile" and click on Set, OK and exit.

Next maximise your free space by taking the following measures. Turn off
the monitoring by System Restore on all drives and partitions. You
should only be monitoring your C partition but for now you need to win
free disk space. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and
select System Restore. Check the box before "Turn off System Restore on
all drives. Now run cCleaner.

With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. When using cCleaner
think twice before checking Autocomplete Form History under Internet
Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has irritating consequences.
You may need to restore your system's recollection of passwords after
use so keep a record off computer so that they can easily be re-entered.

Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.

Now run Disk Defragmenter and when this has completed restart your
computer. Rebooting enables the pagefile change to take effect so at
this point you will have maximised your free disk space. Run Disk
Defragmenter again. You should now change your pagefile settings again.
Select Start, Control Panel, System, Advanced, Performance Settings,
Advanced, Virtual Memory, Change and place the cursor on C drive /
partition. Select Custom Size and set a Minumum and a Maximum of 1,000
mb. When you have made your selection click on Set, OK and exit. You
will need to restart your computer for the new settings to take effect.
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

You will now have got the pagefile to the best you can achieve. If you
do not subsequently change your pagefile settings the number of
fragments, if any, should not increase. The pagefile will most likely
display as a limited number of contiguous green unmoveable areas in the
graphical display in Disk Defragmenter. It may display as a solid green
unmoveable area, which is the ideal and a completely contiguous
pagefile.

One final task is to put your System Restore arrangements back in place.
The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C partition,
which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb. Right click your My
Computer icon on the Desktop and select System Restore. Place the cursor
on your C drive select Settings but this time find the slider and drag
it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit. When you get to the
Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit. Now turn System Restore
back on for just your C partition. Right click your My Computer icon on
the Desktop and select System Restore. Uncheck the box before "Turn off
System Restore on all drives. You now need to stop the monitoring of all
drives / partitions except C. The instructions to do this are in the
next link:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/drivedisable.html

The method described above is complicated and convoluted but it only
needs to be done once. In future providing you maintain 15% free disk
space defragmenting will be a bit quicker and you should get better
results when you run Disk Defragmenter.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





Teresa wrote:
I get this message after defragging:

Defragmentation is complete for C:\
Some files on this volume could not be defragmented.
Please check the defragmentation report for the list of these files.

Volume (C
Volume size = 17.72 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 13.37 GB
Free space = 4.34 GB
Percent free space = 24 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 28 %
File fragmentation = 51 %
Free space fragmentation = 5 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 78,884
Average file size = 305 KB
Total fragmented files = 653
Total excess fragments = 120,794
Average fragments per file = 2.53

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.11 GB
Total fragments = 28,826

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 7,240
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 108 MB
MFT record count = 86,991
Percent MFT in use = 78 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
501 4 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\mscorl ib.dll
864 5 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System .Windows.Forms.dll
1,236 5 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System .Design.dll
531 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Design\2.0.0.0__ b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Design.dll
501 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_32\System.Web\2.0.0.0__b03f5 f7f11d50a3a\System.Web.dll
1,088 10 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_4_body.wav
559 10 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\TCSCAN7.DAT
769 10 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_2_body.wav
597 11 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_1_body.wav
630 11 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_3_body.wav
715 11 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan5.dat
815 12 MB \Program Files\Can You See What I
See\gfx\Animations\intro_animation_canyousee.swf
600 22 MB \Documents and
Settings\admin\ntuser.dat.gbck 533 24 MB
\WINDOWS\system32\MRT.exe 1,030 34 MB \Program
Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\VirusDefs\20090311.003\VIRSCAN7.DAT
4,230 34 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan7.dat
1,441 34 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\20090318.006\VIRSCAN7.DAT
735 35 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\software.gbck
538 38 MB \Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead
VideoStudio 9.0\VfxIMGRC.dll
3,150 38 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\main.pak 631 39 MB \Program
Files\Java\jre1.6.0_03\lib\rt.jar 1,495 44 MB
\Program Files\Farm Frenzy Pizza Party\Data\Data.pack
715 46 MB \WINDOWS\Downloaded
Installations\{C5ADA65A-7828-4D85-B071-ECC52B51F794}\Sony Ericsson PC
Suite
1.20.173.msi
792 50 MB \Program Files\Roboball\data.pak
719 68 MB \Program Files\EA SPORTS\FIFA
2004\data\cmn\be\script.big
3,547 99 MB \Program Files\Build A Lot 3 Passport
To Europe\Buildalot3.rez
1,417 114 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\708483.msp
2,050 128 MB \Program Files\Registry
Easy\FullBackup\Backup_20080531_100458.reg
2,053 128 MB \Program Files\Registry
Easy\FullBackup\Backup_20080614_090409.reg
3,455 431 MB \Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Setup
Files\AcroPro\EFG\Data1.cab


Pls take note that:
1. I have more than 15% free space.
2. I turned off my screen saver and antivirus.
3. I run scandisk and disk cleanup before defragmentation.
4. I run in safe mode.
I have the above done, but it seems that the problem remain unsolved.




  #19  
Old March 30th 09, 01:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
teresa
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Posts: 34
Default Some file on this volume could not be defragmented

Hi,

Thanks for your suggestion. May i know would there be any risk if i disable
the pagefile setting? I just want to defrag my pc in order to speed up
loading of files. I do not want my pc to go nuts....

"Gerry" wrote:


Teresa

The problem is probably the multi-fragmented pagefile, which
effectively is fragmenting the free space is many small pockets. Given
the amount of free disk space you will be able to greatly imptove but I
am not sure that you now be able to recreate a contiguous pagefile. You
have followed the conventional advice to let Windows manage the
pagefile and reaped the harvest.

My first suggestion is that you download and install cCleaner
(freeware). I will explain about using it later.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/

You should now change your pagefile settings. Select Start, Control
Panel, System, Advanced, Performance Settings, Advanced, Virtual Memory,
Change and place the cursor on C drive in the next window. Check the box
before "No pagefile" and click on Set, OK and exit.

Next maximise your free space by taking the following measures. Turn off
the monitoring by System Restore on all drives and partitions. You
should only be monitoring your C partition but for now you need to win
free disk space. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and
select System Restore. Check the box before "Turn off System Restore on
all drives. Now run cCleaner.

With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. When using cCleaner
think twice before checking Autocomplete Form History under Internet
Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has irritating consequences.
You may need to restore your system's recollection of passwords after
use so keep a record off computer so that they can easily be re-entered.

Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.

Now run Disk Defragmenter and when this has completed restart your
computer. Rebooting enables the pagefile change to take effect so at
this point you will have maximised your free disk space. Run Disk
Defragmenter again. You should now change your pagefile settings again.
Select Start, Control Panel, System, Advanced, Performance Settings,
Advanced, Virtual Memory, Change and place the cursor on C drive /
partition. Select Custom Size and set a Minumum and a Maximum of 1,000
mb. When you have made your selection click on Set, OK and exit. You
will need to restart your computer for the new settings to take effect.
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

You will now have got the pagefile to the best you can achieve. If you
do not subsequently change your pagefile settings the number of
fragments, if any, should not increase. The pagefile will most likely
display as a limited number of contiguous green unmoveable areas in the
graphical display in Disk Defragmenter. It may display as a solid green
unmoveable area, which is the ideal and a completely contiguous
pagefile.

One final task is to put your System Restore arrangements back in place.
The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C partition,
which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb. Right click your My
Computer icon on the Desktop and select System Restore. Place the cursor
on your C drive select Settings but this time find the slider and drag
it to the left until it reads 700 mb and exit. When you get to the
Settings screen click on Apply and OK and exit. Now turn System Restore
back on for just your C partition. Right click your My Computer icon on
the Desktop and select System Restore. Uncheck the box before "Turn off
System Restore on all drives. You now need to stop the monitoring of all
drives / partitions except C. The instructions to do this are in the
next link:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/drivedisable.html

The method described above is complicated and convoluted but it only
needs to be done once. In future providing you maintain 15% free disk
space defragmenting will be a bit quicker and you should get better
results when you run Disk Defragmenter.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





Teresa wrote:
I get this message after defragging:

Defragmentation is complete for C:\
Some files on this volume could not be defragmented.
Please check the defragmentation report for the list of these files.

Volume (C
Volume size = 17.72 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 13.37 GB
Free space = 4.34 GB
Percent free space = 24 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 28 %
File fragmentation = 51 %
Free space fragmentation = 5 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 78,884
Average file size = 305 KB
Total fragmented files = 653
Total excess fragments = 120,794
Average fragments per file = 2.53

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.11 GB
Total fragments = 28,826

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 7,240
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 108 MB
MFT record count = 86,991
Percent MFT in use = 78 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
501 4 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\mscorl ib.dll
864 5 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System .Windows.Forms.dll
1,236 5 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System .Design.dll
531 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Design\2.0.0.0__ b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Design.dll
501 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_32\System.Web\2.0.0.0__b03f5 f7f11d50a3a\System.Web.dll
1,088 10 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_4_body.wav
559 10 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\TCSCAN7.DAT
769 10 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_2_body.wav
597 11 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_1_body.wav
630 11 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_3_body.wav
715 11 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan5.dat
815 12 MB \Program Files\Can You See What I
See\gfx\Animations\intro_animation_canyousee.swf
600 22 MB \Documents and
Settings\admin\ntuser.dat.gbck 533 24 MB
\WINDOWS\system32\MRT.exe 1,030 34 MB \Program
Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\VirusDefs\20090311.003\VIRSCAN7.DAT
4,230 34 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan7.dat
1,441 34 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\20090318.006\VIRSCAN7.DAT
735 35 MB \WINDOWS\system32\config\software.gbck
538 38 MB \Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead
VideoStudio 9.0\VfxIMGRC.dll
3,150 38 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\main.pak 631 39 MB \Program
Files\Java\jre1.6.0_03\lib\rt.jar 1,495 44 MB
\Program Files\Farm Frenzy Pizza Party\Data\Data.pack
715 46 MB \WINDOWS\Downloaded
Installations\{C5ADA65A-7828-4D85-B071-ECC52B51F794}\Sony Ericsson PC
Suite
1.20.173.msi
792 50 MB \Program Files\Roboball\data.pak
719 68 MB \Program Files\EA SPORTS\FIFA
2004\data\cmn\be\script.big
3,547 99 MB \Program Files\Build A Lot 3 Passport
To Europe\Buildalot3.rez
1,417 114 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\708483.msp
2,050 128 MB \Program Files\Registry
Easy\FullBackup\Backup_20080531_100458.reg
2,053 128 MB \Program Files\Registry
Easy\FullBackup\Backup_20080614_090409.reg
3,455 431 MB \Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Setup
Files\AcroPro\EFG\Data1.cab


Pls take note that:
1. I have more than 15% free space.
2. I turned off my screen saver and antivirus.
3. I run scandisk and disk cleanup before defragmentation.
4. I run in safe mode.
I have the above done, but it seems that the problem remain unsolved.




  #20  
Old March 30th 09, 01:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Olórin[_2_]
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Posts: 917
Default Some file on this volume could not be defragmented

It's not a matter of Gerry's say-so, it's a matter of your posting the word
"usauge" and, just now, "reply's". One could be a typo, the other is a
mistake in both spelling and grammar. Not what we'd expect from an author.

More to the point, please stop prevaricating and answer Gerry's question:
When were you awarded the MS MVP status you claim and under what name?

THE C. [MS MVP] wrote:
Spelling? If you say so. Reading your posts and reply's in this NG,
"You" remind me of Peter Foldes, who is "blind, leading the blind."
Make it a great day.

I hope your spelling was better then than it is now. Clues are of no
interest. Transparency is a simple solution. I can see no reason to
shelter in anonymity.


--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


THE C. [MS MVP] wrote:
Gerry I have written 2 books on Basic Internet Usauge. Just another
clue for those who wish to seek me!

Touch Base

What are you trying to say?


--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Touch Base wrote:
"Gerry" wrote in message
...
When were you awarded the MS MVP status you claim and under what
name?



  #21  
Old March 30th 09, 01:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Olorin
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Posts: 323
Default Some file on this volume could not be defragmented

It's not a matter of Gerry's say-so, it's a matter of your posting the word
"usauge" and, just now, "reply's". One could be a typo, the other is a
mistake in both spelling and grammar. Not what we'd expect from an author.

More to the point, please stop prevaricating and answer Gerry's question:
When were you awarded the MS MVP status you claim and under what name?

THE C. [MS MVP] wrote:
Spelling? If you say so. Reading your posts and reply's in this NG,
"You" remind me of Peter Foldes, who is "blind, leading the blind."
Make it a great day.

I hope your spelling was better then than it is now. Clues are of no
interest. Transparency is a simple solution. I can see no reason to
shelter in anonymity.


--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


THE C. [MS MVP] wrote:
Gerry I have written 2 books on Basic Internet Usauge. Just another
clue for those who wish to seek me!

Touch Base

What are you trying to say?


--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Touch Base wrote:
"Gerry" wrote in message
...
When were you awarded the MS MVP status you claim and under what
name?



  #22  
Old March 30th 09, 02:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Gerry
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Posts: 9,437
Default Some file on this volume could not be defragmented

Teresa

There's no risk. It's only a temporary measure. Restore the pagefile as soon
as you have finished defragmenting.


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Teresa wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for your suggestion. May i know would there be any risk if i
disable the pagefile setting? I just want to defrag my pc in order to
speed up loading of files. I do not want my pc to go nuts....

"Gerry" wrote:


Teresa

The problem is probably the multi-fragmented pagefile, which
effectively is fragmenting the free space is many small pockets.
Given the amount of free disk space you will be able to greatly
imptove but I am not sure that you now be able to recreate a
contiguous pagefile. You have followed the conventional advice to
let Windows manage the pagefile and reaped the harvest.

My first suggestion is that you download and install cCleaner
(freeware). I will explain about using it later.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/

You should now change your pagefile settings. Select Start, Control
Panel, System, Advanced, Performance Settings, Advanced, Virtual
Memory, Change and place the cursor on C drive in the next window.
Check the box before "No pagefile" and click on Set, OK and exit.

Next maximise your free space by taking the following measures. Turn
off the monitoring by System Restore on all drives and partitions.
You should only be monitoring your C partition but for now you need
to win free disk space. Right click your My Computer icon on the
Desktop and select System Restore. Check the box before "Turn off
System Restore on all drives. Now run cCleaner.

With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. When using
cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form History under
Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has irritating
consequences. You may need to restore your system's recollection of
passwords after use so keep a record off computer so that they can
easily be re-entered.

Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.

Now run Disk Defragmenter and when this has completed restart your
computer. Rebooting enables the pagefile change to take effect so at
this point you will have maximised your free disk space. Run Disk
Defragmenter again. You should now change your pagefile settings
again. Select Start, Control Panel, System, Advanced, Performance
Settings, Advanced, Virtual Memory, Change and place the cursor on C
drive / partition. Select Custom Size and set a Minumum and a
Maximum of 1,000 mb. When you have made your selection click on Set,
OK and exit. You will need to restart your computer for the new
settings to take effect. http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

You will now have got the pagefile to the best you can achieve. If
you do not subsequently change your pagefile settings the number of
fragments, if any, should not increase. The pagefile will most likely
display as a limited number of contiguous green unmoveable areas in
the graphical display in Disk Defragmenter. It may display as a
solid green unmoveable area, which is the ideal and a completely
contiguous pagefile.

One final task is to put your System Restore arrangements back in
place. The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C
partition, which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb.
Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select Settings but this
time find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb
and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK
and exit. Now turn System Restore back on for just your C partition.
Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
Restore. Uncheck the box before "Turn off System Restore on all
drives. You now need to stop the monitoring of all drives /
partitions except C. The instructions to do this are in the next
link:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/drivedisable.html

The method described above is complicated and convoluted but it only
needs to be done once. In future providing you maintain 15% free disk
space defragmenting will be a bit quicker and you should get better
results when you run Disk Defragmenter.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





Teresa wrote:
I get this message after defragging:

Defragmentation is complete for C:\
Some files on this volume could not be defragmented.
Please check the defragmentation report for the list of these files.

Volume (C
Volume size = 17.72 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 13.37 GB
Free space = 4.34 GB
Percent free space = 24 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 28 %
File fragmentation = 51 %
Free space fragmentation = 5 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 78,884
Average file size = 305 KB
Total fragmented files = 653
Total excess fragments = 120,794
Average fragments per file = 2.53

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.11 GB
Total fragments = 28,826

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 7,240
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 108 MB
MFT record count = 86,991
Percent MFT in use = 78 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
501 4 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\mscorl ib.dll
864 5 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System .Windows.Forms.dll
1,236 5 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System .Design.dll
531 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Design\2.0.0.0__ b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Design.dll
501 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_32\System.Web\2.0.0.0__b03f5 f7f11d50a3a\System.Web.dll
1,088 10 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_4_body.wav
559 10 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\TCSCAN7.DAT
769 10 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_2_body.wav
597 11 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_1_body.wav
630 11 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_3_body.wav
715 11 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan5.dat
815 12 MB \Program Files\Can You See What I
See\gfx\Animations\intro_animation_canyousee.swf
600 22 MB \Documents and
Settings\admin\ntuser.dat.gbck 533 24 MB
\WINDOWS\system32\MRT.exe 1,030 34 MB \Program
Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\20090311.003\VIRSCAN7.DAT 4,230 34 MB
\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan7.dat 1,441 34 MB
\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\20090318.006\VIRSCAN7.DAT 735 35 MB
\WINDOWS\system32\config\software.gbck 538 38 MB
\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead VideoStudio 9.0\VfxIMGRC.dll
3,150 38 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\main.pak 631 39 MB \Program
Files\Java\jre1.6.0_03\lib\rt.jar 1,495 44 MB
\Program Files\Farm Frenzy Pizza Party\Data\Data.pack
715 46 MB \WINDOWS\Downloaded
Installations\{C5ADA65A-7828-4D85-B071-ECC52B51F794}\Sony Ericsson
PC Suite
1.20.173.msi
792 50 MB \Program Files\Roboball\data.pak
719 68 MB \Program Files\EA SPORTS\FIFA
2004\data\cmn\be\script.big
3,547 99 MB \Program Files\Build A Lot 3
Passport To Europe\Buildalot3.rez
1,417 114 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\708483.msp
2,050 128 MB \Program Files\Registry
Easy\FullBackup\Backup_20080531_100458.reg
2,053 128 MB \Program Files\Registry
Easy\FullBackup\Backup_20080614_090409.reg
3,455 431 MB \Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat
7.0\Setup Files\AcroPro\EFG\Data1.cab


Pls take note that:
1. I have more than 15% free space.
2. I turned off my screen saver and antivirus.
3. I run scandisk and disk cleanup before defragmentation.
4. I run in safe mode.
I have the above done, but it seems that the problem remain
unsolved.



  #23  
Old March 30th 09, 02:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Gerry
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 9,437
Default Some file on this volume could not be defragmented

Teresa

There's no risk. It's only a temporary measure. Restore the pagefile as soon
as you have finished defragmenting.


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Teresa wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for your suggestion. May i know would there be any risk if i
disable the pagefile setting? I just want to defrag my pc in order to
speed up loading of files. I do not want my pc to go nuts....

"Gerry" wrote:


Teresa

The problem is probably the multi-fragmented pagefile, which
effectively is fragmenting the free space is many small pockets.
Given the amount of free disk space you will be able to greatly
imptove but I am not sure that you now be able to recreate a
contiguous pagefile. You have followed the conventional advice to
let Windows manage the pagefile and reaped the harvest.

My first suggestion is that you download and install cCleaner
(freeware). I will explain about using it later.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/

You should now change your pagefile settings. Select Start, Control
Panel, System, Advanced, Performance Settings, Advanced, Virtual
Memory, Change and place the cursor on C drive in the next window.
Check the box before "No pagefile" and click on Set, OK and exit.

Next maximise your free space by taking the following measures. Turn
off the monitoring by System Restore on all drives and partitions.
You should only be monitoring your C partition but for now you need
to win free disk space. Right click your My Computer icon on the
Desktop and select System Restore. Check the box before "Turn off
System Restore on all drives. Now run cCleaner.

With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. When using
cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form History under
Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has irritating
consequences. You may need to restore your system's recollection of
passwords after use so keep a record off computer so that they can
easily be re-entered.

Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.

Now run Disk Defragmenter and when this has completed restart your
computer. Rebooting enables the pagefile change to take effect so at
this point you will have maximised your free disk space. Run Disk
Defragmenter again. You should now change your pagefile settings
again. Select Start, Control Panel, System, Advanced, Performance
Settings, Advanced, Virtual Memory, Change and place the cursor on C
drive / partition. Select Custom Size and set a Minumum and a
Maximum of 1,000 mb. When you have made your selection click on Set,
OK and exit. You will need to restart your computer for the new
settings to take effect. http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

You will now have got the pagefile to the best you can achieve. If
you do not subsequently change your pagefile settings the number of
fragments, if any, should not increase. The pagefile will most likely
display as a limited number of contiguous green unmoveable areas in
the graphical display in Disk Defragmenter. It may display as a
solid green unmoveable area, which is the ideal and a completely
contiguous pagefile.

One final task is to put your System Restore arrangements back in
place. The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C
partition, which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb.
Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select Settings but this
time find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb
and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK
and exit. Now turn System Restore back on for just your C partition.
Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
Restore. Uncheck the box before "Turn off System Restore on all
drives. You now need to stop the monitoring of all drives /
partitions except C. The instructions to do this are in the next
link:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/drivedisable.html

The method described above is complicated and convoluted but it only
needs to be done once. In future providing you maintain 15% free disk
space defragmenting will be a bit quicker and you should get better
results when you run Disk Defragmenter.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





Teresa wrote:
I get this message after defragging:

Defragmentation is complete for C:\
Some files on this volume could not be defragmented.
Please check the defragmentation report for the list of these files.

Volume (C
Volume size = 17.72 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 13.37 GB
Free space = 4.34 GB
Percent free space = 24 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 28 %
File fragmentation = 51 %
Free space fragmentation = 5 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 78,884
Average file size = 305 KB
Total fragmented files = 653
Total excess fragments = 120,794
Average fragments per file = 2.53

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.11 GB
Total fragments = 28,826

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 7,240
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 108 MB
MFT record count = 86,991
Percent MFT in use = 78 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
501 4 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\mscorl ib.dll
864 5 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System .Windows.Forms.dll
1,236 5 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System .Design.dll
531 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Design\2.0.0.0__ b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Design.dll
501 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_32\System.Web\2.0.0.0__b03f5 f7f11d50a3a\System.Web.dll
1,088 10 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_4_body.wav
559 10 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\TCSCAN7.DAT
769 10 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_2_body.wav
597 11 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_1_body.wav
630 11 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_3_body.wav
715 11 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan5.dat
815 12 MB \Program Files\Can You See What I
See\gfx\Animations\intro_animation_canyousee.swf
600 22 MB \Documents and
Settings\admin\ntuser.dat.gbck 533 24 MB
\WINDOWS\system32\MRT.exe 1,030 34 MB \Program
Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\20090311.003\VIRSCAN7.DAT 4,230 34 MB
\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan7.dat 1,441 34 MB
\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\20090318.006\VIRSCAN7.DAT 735 35 MB
\WINDOWS\system32\config\software.gbck 538 38 MB
\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead VideoStudio 9.0\VfxIMGRC.dll
3,150 38 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\main.pak 631 39 MB \Program
Files\Java\jre1.6.0_03\lib\rt.jar 1,495 44 MB
\Program Files\Farm Frenzy Pizza Party\Data\Data.pack
715 46 MB \WINDOWS\Downloaded
Installations\{C5ADA65A-7828-4D85-B071-ECC52B51F794}\Sony Ericsson
PC Suite
1.20.173.msi
792 50 MB \Program Files\Roboball\data.pak
719 68 MB \Program Files\EA SPORTS\FIFA
2004\data\cmn\be\script.big
3,547 99 MB \Program Files\Build A Lot 3
Passport To Europe\Buildalot3.rez
1,417 114 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\708483.msp
2,050 128 MB \Program Files\Registry
Easy\FullBackup\Backup_20080531_100458.reg
2,053 128 MB \Program Files\Registry
Easy\FullBackup\Backup_20080614_090409.reg
3,455 431 MB \Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat
7.0\Setup Files\AcroPro\EFG\Data1.cab


Pls take note that:
1. I have more than 15% free space.
2. I turned off my screen saver and antivirus.
3. I run scandisk and disk cleanup before defragmentation.
4. I run in safe mode.
I have the above done, but it seems that the problem remain
unsolved.



  #24  
Old March 30th 09, 03:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Alister
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 213
Default Some file on this volume could not be defragmented

On Mar 30, 2:14*pm, "Gerry" wrote:
Teresa

There's no risk. It's only a temporary measure. Restore the pagefile as soon
as you have finished defragmenting.

--

Hope *this helps.

Gerry
*~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Teresa wrote:
Hi,


Thanks for your suggestion. May i know would there be any risk if i
disable the pagefile setting? I just want to defrag my pc in order to
speed up loading of files. I do not want my pc to go nuts....


"Gerry" wrote:


Teresa


The problem is probably the multi-fragmented pagefile, which
effectively is fragmenting the free space is many small pockets.
Given the amount of free disk space you will be able to greatly
imptove but I am not sure that you now be able to recreate a
contiguous pagefile. You have followed the conventional advice to
let Windows manage the pagefile and reaped the harvest.


My first suggestion is that you download and install cCleaner
(freeware). I will explain about using it later.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/


You should now change your pagefile settings. Select Start, Control
Panel, System, Advanced, Performance Settings, Advanced, Virtual
Memory, Change and place the cursor on C drive in the next window.
Check the box before "No pagefile" *and click on Set, OK and exit.


Next maximise your free space by taking the following measures. Turn
off the monitoring by System Restore on all drives and partitions.
You should only be monitoring *your C partition but for now you need
to win free disk space. *Right click your My Computer icon on the
Desktop and select System Restore. Check the box before "Turn off
System Restore on all drives. Now run cCleaner.


With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. When using
cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form History under
Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has irritating
consequences. You may need to restore your system's recollection of
passwords after use so keep a record off computer so that they can
easily be re-entered.


Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.


Now run Disk Defragmenter and when this has completed restart your
computer. Rebooting enables the pagefile change to take effect so at
this point you will have maximised your free disk space. Run Disk
Defragmenter again. You should now change your pagefile settings
again. Select Start, Control Panel, System, Advanced, Performance
Settings, Advanced, Virtual Memory, Change and place the cursor on C
drive / partition. Select Custom Size and set a Minumum and a
Maximum of 1,000 mb. When you have made your selection click on Set,
OK and exit. You will need to restart your computer for the new
settings to take effect.http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm


You will now have got the pagefile to the best you can achieve. If
you do not subsequently change your pagefile settings the number of
fragments, if any, should not increase. The pagefile will most likely
display as a limited number of contiguous green *unmoveable areas in
the graphical display in Disk Defragmenter. It may display as a
solid green unmoveable area, which is the ideal and a completely
contiguous pagefile.


One final task is to put your System Restore arrangements back in
place. The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C
partition, which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb.
Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select Settings but this
time find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb
and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK
and exit. Now turn System Restore back on for just your C partition.
Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
Restore. Uncheck the box before "Turn off System Restore on all
drives. You now need to stop the monitoring of all drives /
partitions except C. The instructions to do this are in the next
link:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/drivedisable.html


The method described above is complicated and convoluted but it only
needs to be done once. In future providing you maintain 15% free disk
space defragmenting will be a bit quicker and you should get better
results when you run Disk Defragmenter.


--


Hope *this helps.


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Teresa wrote:
I get this message after defragging:


Defragmentation is complete for C:\
Some files on this volume could not be defragmented.
Please check the defragmentation report for the list of these files.


Volume (C
* *Volume size * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *= 17.72 GB
* *Cluster size * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 4 KB
* *Used space * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 13.37 GB
* *Free space * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 4.34 GB
* *Percent free space * * * * * * * * * * * * = 24 %


Volume fragmentation
* *Total fragmentation * * * * * * * * * * * *= 28 %
* *File fragmentation * * * * * * * * * * * * = 51 %
* *Free space fragmentation * * * * * * * * * = 5 %


File fragmentation
* *Total files * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *= 78,884
* *Average file size * * * * * * * * * * * * *= 305 KB
* *Total fragmented files * * * * * * * * * * = 653
* *Total excess fragments * * * * * * * * * * = 120,794
* *Average fragments per file * * * * * * * * = 2.53


Pagefile fragmentation
* *Pagefile size * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *= 1.11 GB
* *Total fragments * * * * * * * * * * * * * *= 28,826


Folder fragmentation
* *Total folders * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *= 7,240
* *Fragmented folders * * * * * * * * * * * * = 1
* *Excess folder fragments * * * * * * * * * *= 0


Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
* *Total MFT size * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 108 MB
* *MFT record count * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 86,991
* *Percent MFT in use * * * * * * * * * * * * = 78 %
* *Total MFT fragments * * * * * * * * * * * *= 3


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments * * * File Size * * * Files that cannot be defragmented
501 * * * * * * 4 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\mscorl ib.dll
864 * * * * * * 5 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System .Windows.Forms.dll
1,236 * * * * * 5 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System .Design.dll
531 * * * * * * 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Design\2.0.0.0__ b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Design.dll
501 * * * * * * 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_32\System.Web\2.0.0.0__b03f5 f7f11d50a3a\System.Web.dll
1,088 * * * * * 10 MB * * * * * \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_4_body.wav
559 * * * * * * 10 MB * * * * * \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\TCSCAN7.DAT
769 * * * * * * 10 MB * * * * * \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_2_body.wav
597 * * * * * * 11 MB * * * * * \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_1_body.wav
630 * * * * * * 11 MB * * * * * \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_3_body.wav
715 * * * * * * 11 MB * * * * * \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan5.dat
815 * * * * * * 12 MB * * * * * \Program Files\Can You See What I
See\gfx\Animations\intro_animation_canyousee.swf
600 * * * * * * 22 MB * * * * * \Documents and
Settings\admin\ntuser.dat.gbck 533 * * * * * * 24 MB
\WINDOWS\system32\MRT.exe 1,030 * * * * * 34 MB * * * * * \Program
Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\20090311.003\VIRSCAN7.DAT 4,230 * * * * * 34 MB
\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan7.dat 1,441 * * * * * 34 MB
\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\20090318.006\VIRSCAN7.DAT 735 * * * * * * 35 MB
\WINDOWS\system32\config\software.gbck 538 * * * * * * 38 MB
\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead VideoStudio 9.0\VfxIMGRC.dll
3,150 * * * * * 38 MB * * * * * \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\main.pak 631 * * * * * * 39 MB * * * * * \Program
Files\Java\jre1.6.0_03\lib\rt.jar 1,495 * * * * * 44 MB
\Program Files\Farm Frenzy Pizza Party\Data\Data.pack
715 * * * * * * 46 MB * * * * * \WINDOWS\Downloaded
Installations\{C5ADA65A-7828-4D85-B071-ECC52B51F794}\Sony Ericsson
PC Suite
1.20.173.msi
792 * * * * * * 50 MB * * * * * \Program Files\Roboball\data.pak
719 * * * * * * 68 MB * * * * * \Program Files\EA SPORTS\FIFA
2004\data\cmn\be\script.big
3,547 * * * * * 99 MB * * * * * \Program Files\Build A Lot 3
Passport To Europe\Buildalot3.rez
1,417 * * * * * 114 MB * * * * *\WINDOWS\Installer\708483.msp
2,050 * * * * * 128 MB * * * * *\Program Files\Registry
Easy\FullBackup\Backup_20080531_100458.reg
2,053 * * * * * 128 MB * * * * *\Program Files\Registry
Easy\FullBackup\Backup_20080614_090409.reg
3,455 * * * * * 431 MB * * * * *\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat
7.0\Setup Files\AcroPro\EFG\Data1.cab


Pls take note that:
1. I have more than 15% free space.
2. I turned off my screen saver and antivirus.
3. I run scandisk and disk cleanup before defragmentation.
4. I run in safe mode.
I have the above done, but it seems that the problem remain
unsolved.


Might I suggest PageDefrag from sysinternals?

This will defrag both the pagefile and registry hives.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb897426.aspx

Alister.
  #25  
Old March 30th 09, 03:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Alister
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 213
Default Some file on this volume could not be defragmented

On Mar 30, 2:14*pm, "Gerry" wrote:
Teresa

There's no risk. It's only a temporary measure. Restore the pagefile as soon
as you have finished defragmenting.

--

Hope *this helps.

Gerry
*~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Teresa wrote:
Hi,


Thanks for your suggestion. May i know would there be any risk if i
disable the pagefile setting? I just want to defrag my pc in order to
speed up loading of files. I do not want my pc to go nuts....


"Gerry" wrote:


Teresa


The problem is probably the multi-fragmented pagefile, which
effectively is fragmenting the free space is many small pockets.
Given the amount of free disk space you will be able to greatly
imptove but I am not sure that you now be able to recreate a
contiguous pagefile. You have followed the conventional advice to
let Windows manage the pagefile and reaped the harvest.


My first suggestion is that you download and install cCleaner
(freeware). I will explain about using it later.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/


You should now change your pagefile settings. Select Start, Control
Panel, System, Advanced, Performance Settings, Advanced, Virtual
Memory, Change and place the cursor on C drive in the next window.
Check the box before "No pagefile" *and click on Set, OK and exit.


Next maximise your free space by taking the following measures. Turn
off the monitoring by System Restore on all drives and partitions.
You should only be monitoring *your C partition but for now you need
to win free disk space. *Right click your My Computer icon on the
Desktop and select System Restore. Check the box before "Turn off
System Restore on all drives. Now run cCleaner.


With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. When using
cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form History under
Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has irritating
consequences. You may need to restore your system's recollection of
passwords after use so keep a record off computer so that they can
easily be re-entered.


Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.


Now run Disk Defragmenter and when this has completed restart your
computer. Rebooting enables the pagefile change to take effect so at
this point you will have maximised your free disk space. Run Disk
Defragmenter again. You should now change your pagefile settings
again. Select Start, Control Panel, System, Advanced, Performance
Settings, Advanced, Virtual Memory, Change and place the cursor on C
drive / partition. Select Custom Size and set a Minumum and a
Maximum of 1,000 mb. When you have made your selection click on Set,
OK and exit. You will need to restart your computer for the new
settings to take effect.http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm


You will now have got the pagefile to the best you can achieve. If
you do not subsequently change your pagefile settings the number of
fragments, if any, should not increase. The pagefile will most likely
display as a limited number of contiguous green *unmoveable areas in
the graphical display in Disk Defragmenter. It may display as a
solid green unmoveable area, which is the ideal and a completely
contiguous pagefile.


One final task is to put your System Restore arrangements back in
place. The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C
partition, which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb.
Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select Settings but this
time find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb
and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK
and exit. Now turn System Restore back on for just your C partition.
Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
Restore. Uncheck the box before "Turn off System Restore on all
drives. You now need to stop the monitoring of all drives /
partitions except C. The instructions to do this are in the next
link:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/drivedisable.html


The method described above is complicated and convoluted but it only
needs to be done once. In future providing you maintain 15% free disk
space defragmenting will be a bit quicker and you should get better
results when you run Disk Defragmenter.


--


Hope *this helps.


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Teresa wrote:
I get this message after defragging:


Defragmentation is complete for C:\
Some files on this volume could not be defragmented.
Please check the defragmentation report for the list of these files.


Volume (C
* *Volume size * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *= 17.72 GB
* *Cluster size * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 4 KB
* *Used space * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 13.37 GB
* *Free space * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 4.34 GB
* *Percent free space * * * * * * * * * * * * = 24 %


Volume fragmentation
* *Total fragmentation * * * * * * * * * * * *= 28 %
* *File fragmentation * * * * * * * * * * * * = 51 %
* *Free space fragmentation * * * * * * * * * = 5 %


File fragmentation
* *Total files * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *= 78,884
* *Average file size * * * * * * * * * * * * *= 305 KB
* *Total fragmented files * * * * * * * * * * = 653
* *Total excess fragments * * * * * * * * * * = 120,794
* *Average fragments per file * * * * * * * * = 2.53


Pagefile fragmentation
* *Pagefile size * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *= 1.11 GB
* *Total fragments * * * * * * * * * * * * * *= 28,826


Folder fragmentation
* *Total folders * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *= 7,240
* *Fragmented folders * * * * * * * * * * * * = 1
* *Excess folder fragments * * * * * * * * * *= 0


Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
* *Total MFT size * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 108 MB
* *MFT record count * * * * * * * * * * * * * = 86,991
* *Percent MFT in use * * * * * * * * * * * * = 78 %
* *Total MFT fragments * * * * * * * * * * * *= 3


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments * * * File Size * * * Files that cannot be defragmented
501 * * * * * * 4 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\mscorl ib.dll
864 * * * * * * 5 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System .Windows.Forms.dll
1,236 * * * * * 5 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System .Design.dll
531 * * * * * * 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Design\2.0.0.0__ b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Design.dll
501 * * * * * * 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_32\System.Web\2.0.0.0__b03f5 f7f11d50a3a\System.Web.dll
1,088 * * * * * 10 MB * * * * * \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_4_body.wav
559 * * * * * * 10 MB * * * * * \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\TCSCAN7.DAT
769 * * * * * * 10 MB * * * * * \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_2_body.wav
597 * * * * * * 11 MB * * * * * \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_1_body.wav
630 * * * * * * 11 MB * * * * * \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_3_body.wav
715 * * * * * * 11 MB * * * * * \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan5.dat
815 * * * * * * 12 MB * * * * * \Program Files\Can You See What I
See\gfx\Animations\intro_animation_canyousee.swf
600 * * * * * * 22 MB * * * * * \Documents and
Settings\admin\ntuser.dat.gbck 533 * * * * * * 24 MB
\WINDOWS\system32\MRT.exe 1,030 * * * * * 34 MB * * * * * \Program
Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\20090311.003\VIRSCAN7.DAT 4,230 * * * * * 34 MB
\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan7.dat 1,441 * * * * * 34 MB
\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\20090318.006\VIRSCAN7.DAT 735 * * * * * * 35 MB
\WINDOWS\system32\config\software.gbck 538 * * * * * * 38 MB
\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead VideoStudio 9.0\VfxIMGRC.dll
3,150 * * * * * 38 MB * * * * * \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\main.pak 631 * * * * * * 39 MB * * * * * \Program
Files\Java\jre1.6.0_03\lib\rt.jar 1,495 * * * * * 44 MB
\Program Files\Farm Frenzy Pizza Party\Data\Data.pack
715 * * * * * * 46 MB * * * * * \WINDOWS\Downloaded
Installations\{C5ADA65A-7828-4D85-B071-ECC52B51F794}\Sony Ericsson
PC Suite
1.20.173.msi
792 * * * * * * 50 MB * * * * * \Program Files\Roboball\data.pak
719 * * * * * * 68 MB * * * * * \Program Files\EA SPORTS\FIFA
2004\data\cmn\be\script.big
3,547 * * * * * 99 MB * * * * * \Program Files\Build A Lot 3
Passport To Europe\Buildalot3.rez
1,417 * * * * * 114 MB * * * * *\WINDOWS\Installer\708483.msp
2,050 * * * * * 128 MB * * * * *\Program Files\Registry
Easy\FullBackup\Backup_20080531_100458.reg
2,053 * * * * * 128 MB * * * * *\Program Files\Registry
Easy\FullBackup\Backup_20080614_090409.reg
3,455 * * * * * 431 MB * * * * *\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat
7.0\Setup Files\AcroPro\EFG\Data1.cab


Pls take note that:
1. I have more than 15% free space.
2. I turned off my screen saver and antivirus.
3. I run scandisk and disk cleanup before defragmentation.
4. I run in safe mode.
I have the above done, but it seems that the problem remain
unsolved.


Might I suggest PageDefrag from sysinternals?

This will defrag both the pagefile and registry hives.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb897426.aspx

Alister.
  #26  
Old March 31st 09, 05:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
teresa
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 34
Default Some file on this volume could not be defragmented

Hi Gerry,

Actually I already had CCleaner installed previously. So I've tried to
disable the pagefile & system restore settings. Then i run Disk Defragmenter
but after 5mins at 1% compacting files, the same message came up. I restart
my pc & run Disk Defragmenter again, but also the same thing happened. May i
know why? Is it hard disk problem? Or my pc was infected with virus?

"Gerry" wrote:

Teresa

There's no risk. It's only a temporary measure. Restore the pagefile as soon
as you have finished defragmenting.


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Teresa wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for your suggestion. May i know would there be any risk if i
disable the pagefile setting? I just want to defrag my pc in order to
speed up loading of files. I do not want my pc to go nuts....

"Gerry" wrote:


Teresa

The problem is probably the multi-fragmented pagefile, which
effectively is fragmenting the free space is many small pockets.
Given the amount of free disk space you will be able to greatly
imptove but I am not sure that you now be able to recreate a
contiguous pagefile. You have followed the conventional advice to
let Windows manage the pagefile and reaped the harvest.

My first suggestion is that you download and install cCleaner
(freeware). I will explain about using it later.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/

You should now change your pagefile settings. Select Start, Control
Panel, System, Advanced, Performance Settings, Advanced, Virtual
Memory, Change and place the cursor on C drive in the next window.
Check the box before "No pagefile" and click on Set, OK and exit.

Next maximise your free space by taking the following measures. Turn
off the monitoring by System Restore on all drives and partitions.
You should only be monitoring your C partition but for now you need
to win free disk space. Right click your My Computer icon on the
Desktop and select System Restore. Check the box before "Turn off
System Restore on all drives. Now run cCleaner.

With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. When using
cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form History under
Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has irritating
consequences. You may need to restore your system's recollection of
passwords after use so keep a record off computer so that they can
easily be re-entered.

Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.

Now run Disk Defragmenter and when this has completed restart your
computer. Rebooting enables the pagefile change to take effect so at
this point you will have maximised your free disk space. Run Disk
Defragmenter again. You should now change your pagefile settings
again. Select Start, Control Panel, System, Advanced, Performance
Settings, Advanced, Virtual Memory, Change and place the cursor on C
drive / partition. Select Custom Size and set a Minumum and a
Maximum of 1,000 mb. When you have made your selection click on Set,
OK and exit. You will need to restart your computer for the new
settings to take effect. http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

You will now have got the pagefile to the best you can achieve. If
you do not subsequently change your pagefile settings the number of
fragments, if any, should not increase. The pagefile will most likely
display as a limited number of contiguous green unmoveable areas in
the graphical display in Disk Defragmenter. It may display as a
solid green unmoveable area, which is the ideal and a completely
contiguous pagefile.

One final task is to put your System Restore arrangements back in
place. The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C
partition, which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb.
Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select Settings but this
time find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb
and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK
and exit. Now turn System Restore back on for just your C partition.
Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
Restore. Uncheck the box before "Turn off System Restore on all
drives. You now need to stop the monitoring of all drives /
partitions except C. The instructions to do this are in the next
link:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/drivedisable.html

The method described above is complicated and convoluted but it only
needs to be done once. In future providing you maintain 15% free disk
space defragmenting will be a bit quicker and you should get better
results when you run Disk Defragmenter.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





Teresa wrote:
I get this message after defragging:

Defragmentation is complete for C:\
Some files on this volume could not be defragmented.
Please check the defragmentation report for the list of these files.

Volume (C
Volume size = 17.72 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 13.37 GB
Free space = 4.34 GB
Percent free space = 24 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 28 %
File fragmentation = 51 %
Free space fragmentation = 5 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 78,884
Average file size = 305 KB
Total fragmented files = 653
Total excess fragments = 120,794
Average fragments per file = 2.53

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.11 GB
Total fragments = 28,826

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 7,240
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 108 MB
MFT record count = 86,991
Percent MFT in use = 78 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
501 4 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\mscorl ib.dll
864 5 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System .Windows.Forms.dll
1,236 5 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System .Design.dll
531 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Design\2.0.0.0__ b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Design.dll
501 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_32\System.Web\2.0.0.0__b03f5 f7f11d50a3a\System.Web.dll
1,088 10 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_4_body.wav
559 10 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\TCSCAN7.DAT
769 10 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_2_body.wav
597 11 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_1_body.wav
630 11 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_3_body.wav
715 11 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan5.dat
815 12 MB \Program Files\Can You See What I
See\gfx\Animations\intro_animation_canyousee.swf
600 22 MB \Documents and
Settings\admin\ntuser.dat.gbck 533 24 MB
\WINDOWS\system32\MRT.exe 1,030 34 MB \Program
Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\20090311.003\VIRSCAN7.DAT 4,230 34 MB
\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan7.dat 1,441 34 MB
\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\20090318.006\VIRSCAN7.DAT 735 35 MB
\WINDOWS\system32\config\software.gbck 538 38 MB
\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead VideoStudio 9.0\VfxIMGRC.dll
3,150 38 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\main.pak 631 39 MB \Program
Files\Java\jre1.6.0_03\lib\rt.jar 1,495 44 MB
\Program Files\Farm Frenzy Pizza Party\Data\Data.pack
715 46 MB \WINDOWS\Downloaded
Installations\{C5ADA65A-7828-4D85-B071-ECC52B51F794}\Sony Ericsson
PC Suite
1.20.173.msi
792 50 MB \Program Files\Roboball\data.pak
719 68 MB \Program Files\EA SPORTS\FIFA
2004\data\cmn\be\script.big
3,547 99 MB \Program Files\Build A Lot 3
Passport To Europe\Buildalot3.rez
1,417 114 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\708483.msp
2,050 128 MB \Program Files\Registry
Easy\FullBackup\Backup_20080531_100458.reg
2,053 128 MB \Program Files\Registry
Easy\FullBackup\Backup_20080614_090409.reg
3,455 431 MB \Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat
7.0\Setup Files\AcroPro\EFG\Data1.cab


Pls take note that:
1. I have more than 15% free space.
2. I turned off my screen saver and antivirus.
3. I run scandisk and disk cleanup before defragmentation.
4. I run in safe mode.
I have the above done, but it seems that the problem remain
unsolved.




  #27  
Old March 31st 09, 05:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
teresa
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 34
Default Some file on this volume could not be defragmented

Hi Gerry,

Actually I already had CCleaner installed previously. So I've tried to
disable the pagefile & system restore settings. Then i run Disk Defragmenter
but after 5mins at 1% compacting files, the same message came up. I restart
my pc & run Disk Defragmenter again, but also the same thing happened. May i
know why? Is it hard disk problem? Or my pc was infected with virus?

"Gerry" wrote:

Teresa

There's no risk. It's only a temporary measure. Restore the pagefile as soon
as you have finished defragmenting.


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Teresa wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for your suggestion. May i know would there be any risk if i
disable the pagefile setting? I just want to defrag my pc in order to
speed up loading of files. I do not want my pc to go nuts....

"Gerry" wrote:


Teresa

The problem is probably the multi-fragmented pagefile, which
effectively is fragmenting the free space is many small pockets.
Given the amount of free disk space you will be able to greatly
imptove but I am not sure that you now be able to recreate a
contiguous pagefile. You have followed the conventional advice to
let Windows manage the pagefile and reaped the harvest.

My first suggestion is that you download and install cCleaner
(freeware). I will explain about using it later.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/

You should now change your pagefile settings. Select Start, Control
Panel, System, Advanced, Performance Settings, Advanced, Virtual
Memory, Change and place the cursor on C drive in the next window.
Check the box before "No pagefile" and click on Set, OK and exit.

Next maximise your free space by taking the following measures. Turn
off the monitoring by System Restore on all drives and partitions.
You should only be monitoring your C partition but for now you need
to win free disk space. Right click your My Computer icon on the
Desktop and select System Restore. Check the box before "Turn off
System Restore on all drives. Now run cCleaner.

With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. When using
cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form History under
Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has irritating
consequences. You may need to restore your system's recollection of
passwords after use so keep a record off computer so that they can
easily be re-entered.

Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.

Now run Disk Defragmenter and when this has completed restart your
computer. Rebooting enables the pagefile change to take effect so at
this point you will have maximised your free disk space. Run Disk
Defragmenter again. You should now change your pagefile settings
again. Select Start, Control Panel, System, Advanced, Performance
Settings, Advanced, Virtual Memory, Change and place the cursor on C
drive / partition. Select Custom Size and set a Minumum and a
Maximum of 1,000 mb. When you have made your selection click on Set,
OK and exit. You will need to restart your computer for the new
settings to take effect. http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

You will now have got the pagefile to the best you can achieve. If
you do not subsequently change your pagefile settings the number of
fragments, if any, should not increase. The pagefile will most likely
display as a limited number of contiguous green unmoveable areas in
the graphical display in Disk Defragmenter. It may display as a
solid green unmoveable area, which is the ideal and a completely
contiguous pagefile.

One final task is to put your System Restore arrangements back in
place. The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C
partition, which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb.
Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select Settings but this
time find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb
and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK
and exit. Now turn System Restore back on for just your C partition.
Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
Restore. Uncheck the box before "Turn off System Restore on all
drives. You now need to stop the monitoring of all drives /
partitions except C. The instructions to do this are in the next
link:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/drivedisable.html

The method described above is complicated and convoluted but it only
needs to be done once. In future providing you maintain 15% free disk
space defragmenting will be a bit quicker and you should get better
results when you run Disk Defragmenter.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





Teresa wrote:
I get this message after defragging:

Defragmentation is complete for C:\
Some files on this volume could not be defragmented.
Please check the defragmentation report for the list of these files.

Volume (C
Volume size = 17.72 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 13.37 GB
Free space = 4.34 GB
Percent free space = 24 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 28 %
File fragmentation = 51 %
Free space fragmentation = 5 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 78,884
Average file size = 305 KB
Total fragmented files = 653
Total excess fragments = 120,794
Average fragments per file = 2.53

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.11 GB
Total fragments = 28,826

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 7,240
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 108 MB
MFT record count = 86,991
Percent MFT in use = 78 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
501 4 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\mscorl ib.dll
864 5 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System .Windows.Forms.dll
1,236 5 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System .Design.dll
531 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Design\2.0.0.0__ b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Design.dll
501 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_32\System.Web\2.0.0.0__b03f5 f7f11d50a3a\System.Web.dll
1,088 10 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_4_body.wav
559 10 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\TCSCAN7.DAT
769 10 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_2_body.wav
597 11 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_1_body.wav
630 11 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_3_body.wav
715 11 MB \Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan5.dat
815 12 MB \Program Files\Can You See What I
See\gfx\Animations\intro_animation_canyousee.swf
600 22 MB \Documents and
Settings\admin\ntuser.dat.gbck 533 24 MB
\WINDOWS\system32\MRT.exe 1,030 34 MB \Program
Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\20090311.003\VIRSCAN7.DAT 4,230 34 MB
\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan7.dat 1,441 34 MB
\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\20090318.006\VIRSCAN7.DAT 735 35 MB
\WINDOWS\system32\config\software.gbck 538 38 MB
\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead VideoStudio 9.0\VfxIMGRC.dll
3,150 38 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\main.pak 631 39 MB \Program
Files\Java\jre1.6.0_03\lib\rt.jar 1,495 44 MB
\Program Files\Farm Frenzy Pizza Party\Data\Data.pack
715 46 MB \WINDOWS\Downloaded
Installations\{C5ADA65A-7828-4D85-B071-ECC52B51F794}\Sony Ericsson
PC Suite
1.20.173.msi
792 50 MB \Program Files\Roboball\data.pak
719 68 MB \Program Files\EA SPORTS\FIFA
2004\data\cmn\be\script.big
3,547 99 MB \Program Files\Build A Lot 3
Passport To Europe\Buildalot3.rez
1,417 114 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\708483.msp
2,050 128 MB \Program Files\Registry
Easy\FullBackup\Backup_20080531_100458.reg
2,053 128 MB \Program Files\Registry
Easy\FullBackup\Backup_20080614_090409.reg
3,455 431 MB \Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat
7.0\Setup Files\AcroPro\EFG\Data1.cab


Pls take note that:
1. I have more than 15% free space.
2. I turned off my screen saver and antivirus.
3. I run scandisk and disk cleanup before defragmentation.
4. I run in safe mode.
I have the above done, but it seems that the problem remain
unsolved.




  #28  
Old March 31st 09, 02:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Gerry
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 9,437
Default Some file on this volume could not be defragmented

Teresa

That's disappointing. OK try another solution.

An interesting relatively new entrant to the market is Defraggler (freeware
for home users). It comes from the software house providing cCleaner:
http://www.defraggler.com/features

With this tool, after the running Analyse, it invites you check the boxes
before the fragmented files. Check the boxes before the smaller files and
defragment. Then Analyse again and defragment some larger files. Repeat the
process until you have defragmented all the files. Exit defraggler and try
Disk Defragmenter. You should get a report showing the odd small fragmented
file which Disk Defragmenter will handle. You can then complete the
remainder of my earlier instructions.

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Teresa wrote:
Hi Gerry,

Actually I already had CCleaner installed previously. So I've tried to
disable the pagefile & system restore settings. Then i run Disk
Defragmenter but after 5mins at 1% compacting files, the same message
came up. I restart my pc & run Disk Defragmenter again, but also the
same thing happened. May i know why? Is it hard disk problem? Or my
pc was infected with virus?

"Gerry" wrote:

Teresa

There's no risk. It's only a temporary measure. Restore the pagefile
as soon as you have finished defragmenting.


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Teresa wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for your suggestion. May i know would there be any risk if i
disable the pagefile setting? I just want to defrag my pc in order
to speed up loading of files. I do not want my pc to go nuts....

"Gerry" wrote:


Teresa

The problem is probably the multi-fragmented pagefile, which
effectively is fragmenting the free space is many small pockets.
Given the amount of free disk space you will be able to greatly
imptove but I am not sure that you now be able to recreate a
contiguous pagefile. You have followed the conventional advice to
let Windows manage the pagefile and reaped the harvest.

My first suggestion is that you download and install cCleaner
(freeware). I will explain about using it later.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/

You should now change your pagefile settings. Select Start, Control
Panel, System, Advanced, Performance Settings, Advanced, Virtual
Memory, Change and place the cursor on C drive in the next window.
Check the box before "No pagefile" and click on Set, OK and exit.

Next maximise your free space by taking the following measures.
Turn off the monitoring by System Restore on all drives and
partitions. You should only be monitoring your C partition but
for now you need to win free disk space. Right click your My
Computer icon on the Desktop and select System Restore. Check the
box before "Turn off System Restore on all drives. Now run
cCleaner.

With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. When using
cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form History
under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has
irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer
so that they can easily be re-entered.

Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.

Now run Disk Defragmenter and when this has completed restart your
computer. Rebooting enables the pagefile change to take effect so
at this point you will have maximised your free disk space. Run
Disk Defragmenter again. You should now change your pagefile
settings again. Select Start, Control Panel, System, Advanced,
Performance Settings, Advanced, Virtual Memory, Change and place
the cursor on C drive / partition. Select Custom Size and set a
Minumum and a Maximum of 1,000 mb. When you have made your
selection click on Set, OK and exit. You will need to restart your
computer for the new settings to take effect.
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

You will now have got the pagefile to the best you can achieve. If
you do not subsequently change your pagefile settings the number of
fragments, if any, should not increase. The pagefile will most
likely display as a limited number of contiguous green unmoveable
areas in the graphical display in Disk Defragmenter. It may
display as a solid green unmoveable area, which is the ideal and a
completely contiguous pagefile.

One final task is to put your System Restore arrangements back in
place. The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C
partition, which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb.
Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select Settings but this
time find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb
and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK
and exit. Now turn System Restore back on for just your C
partition. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and
select System Restore. Uncheck the box before "Turn off System
Restore on all drives. You now need to stop the monitoring of all
drives / partitions except C. The instructions to do this are in
the next link:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/drivedisable.html

The method described above is complicated and convoluted but it
only needs to be done once. In future providing you maintain 15%
free disk space defragmenting will be a bit quicker and you should
get better results when you run Disk Defragmenter.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





Teresa wrote:
I get this message after defragging:

Defragmentation is complete for C:\
Some files on this volume could not be defragmented.
Please check the defragmentation report for the list of these
files.

Volume (C
Volume size = 17.72 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 13.37 GB
Free space = 4.34 GB
Percent free space = 24 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 28 %
File fragmentation = 51 %
Free space fragmentation = 5 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 78,884
Average file size = 305 KB
Total fragmented files = 653
Total excess fragments = 120,794
Average fragments per file = 2.53

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.11 GB
Total fragments = 28,826

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 7,240
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 108 MB
MFT record count = 86,991
Percent MFT in use = 78 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
501 4 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\mscorl ib.dll
864 5 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System .Windows.Forms.dll
1,236 5 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System .Design.dll
531 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Design\2.0.0.0__ b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Design.dll
501 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_32\System.Web\2.0.0.0__b03f5 f7f11d50a3a\System.Web.dll
1,088 10 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_4_body.wav
559 10 MB \Program Files\Common
Files\Symantec Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\TCSCAN7.DAT
769 10 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_2_body.wav
597 11 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_1_body.wav
630 11 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_3_body.wav
715 11 MB \Program Files\Common
Files\Symantec Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan5.dat
815 12 MB \Program Files\Can You See What I
See\gfx\Animations\intro_animation_canyousee.swf
600 22 MB \Documents and
Settings\admin\ntuser.dat.gbck 533 24 MB
\WINDOWS\system32\MRT.exe 1,030 34 MB \Program
Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\20090311.003\VIRSCAN7.DAT 4,230 34 MB
\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan7.dat 1,441 34 MB
\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\20090318.006\VIRSCAN7.DAT 735 35 MB
\WINDOWS\system32\config\software.gbck 538 38 MB
\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead VideoStudio 9.0\VfxIMGRC.dll
3,150 38 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\main.pak 631 39 MB \Program
Files\Java\jre1.6.0_03\lib\rt.jar 1,495 44 MB
\Program Files\Farm Frenzy Pizza Party\Data\Data.pack
715 46 MB \WINDOWS\Downloaded
Installations\{C5ADA65A-7828-4D85-B071-ECC52B51F794}\Sony Ericsson
PC Suite
1.20.173.msi
792 50 MB \Program Files\Roboball\data.pak
719 68 MB \Program Files\EA SPORTS\FIFA
2004\data\cmn\be\script.big
3,547 99 MB \Program Files\Build A Lot 3
Passport To Europe\Buildalot3.rez
1,417 114 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\708483.msp
2,050 128 MB \Program Files\Registry
Easy\FullBackup\Backup_20080531_100458.reg
2,053 128 MB \Program Files\Registry
Easy\FullBackup\Backup_20080614_090409.reg
3,455 431 MB \Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat
7.0\Setup Files\AcroPro\EFG\Data1.cab


Pls take note that:
1. I have more than 15% free space.
2. I turned off my screen saver and antivirus.
3. I run scandisk and disk cleanup before defragmentation.
4. I run in safe mode.
I have the above done, but it seems that the problem remain
unsolved.



  #29  
Old March 31st 09, 02:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Gerry
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 9,437
Default Some file on this volume could not be defragmented

Teresa

That's disappointing. OK try another solution.

An interesting relatively new entrant to the market is Defraggler (freeware
for home users). It comes from the software house providing cCleaner:
http://www.defraggler.com/features

With this tool, after the running Analyse, it invites you check the boxes
before the fragmented files. Check the boxes before the smaller files and
defragment. Then Analyse again and defragment some larger files. Repeat the
process until you have defragmented all the files. Exit defraggler and try
Disk Defragmenter. You should get a report showing the odd small fragmented
file which Disk Defragmenter will handle. You can then complete the
remainder of my earlier instructions.

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Teresa wrote:
Hi Gerry,

Actually I already had CCleaner installed previously. So I've tried to
disable the pagefile & system restore settings. Then i run Disk
Defragmenter but after 5mins at 1% compacting files, the same message
came up. I restart my pc & run Disk Defragmenter again, but also the
same thing happened. May i know why? Is it hard disk problem? Or my
pc was infected with virus?

"Gerry" wrote:

Teresa

There's no risk. It's only a temporary measure. Restore the pagefile
as soon as you have finished defragmenting.


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Teresa wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for your suggestion. May i know would there be any risk if i
disable the pagefile setting? I just want to defrag my pc in order
to speed up loading of files. I do not want my pc to go nuts....

"Gerry" wrote:


Teresa

The problem is probably the multi-fragmented pagefile, which
effectively is fragmenting the free space is many small pockets.
Given the amount of free disk space you will be able to greatly
imptove but I am not sure that you now be able to recreate a
contiguous pagefile. You have followed the conventional advice to
let Windows manage the pagefile and reaped the harvest.

My first suggestion is that you download and install cCleaner
(freeware). I will explain about using it later.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/

You should now change your pagefile settings. Select Start, Control
Panel, System, Advanced, Performance Settings, Advanced, Virtual
Memory, Change and place the cursor on C drive in the next window.
Check the box before "No pagefile" and click on Set, OK and exit.

Next maximise your free space by taking the following measures.
Turn off the monitoring by System Restore on all drives and
partitions. You should only be monitoring your C partition but
for now you need to win free disk space. Right click your My
Computer icon on the Desktop and select System Restore. Check the
box before "Turn off System Restore on all drives. Now run
cCleaner.

With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. When using
cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form History
under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has
irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer
so that they can easily be re-entered.

Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.

Now run Disk Defragmenter and when this has completed restart your
computer. Rebooting enables the pagefile change to take effect so
at this point you will have maximised your free disk space. Run
Disk Defragmenter again. You should now change your pagefile
settings again. Select Start, Control Panel, System, Advanced,
Performance Settings, Advanced, Virtual Memory, Change and place
the cursor on C drive / partition. Select Custom Size and set a
Minumum and a Maximum of 1,000 mb. When you have made your
selection click on Set, OK and exit. You will need to restart your
computer for the new settings to take effect.
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm

You will now have got the pagefile to the best you can achieve. If
you do not subsequently change your pagefile settings the number of
fragments, if any, should not increase. The pagefile will most
likely display as a limited number of contiguous green unmoveable
areas in the graphical display in Disk Defragmenter. It may
display as a solid green unmoveable area, which is the ideal and a
completely contiguous pagefile.

One final task is to put your System Restore arrangements back in
place. The default allocation to System Restore is 12% on your C
partition, which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700 mb.
Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select Settings but this
time find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb
and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK
and exit. Now turn System Restore back on for just your C
partition. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and
select System Restore. Uncheck the box before "Turn off System
Restore on all drives. You now need to stop the monitoring of all
drives / partitions except C. The instructions to do this are in
the next link:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/drivedisable.html

The method described above is complicated and convoluted but it
only needs to be done once. In future providing you maintain 15%
free disk space defragmenting will be a bit quicker and you should
get better results when you run Disk Defragmenter.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





Teresa wrote:
I get this message after defragging:

Defragmentation is complete for C:\
Some files on this volume could not be defragmented.
Please check the defragmentation report for the list of these
files.

Volume (C
Volume size = 17.72 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 13.37 GB
Free space = 4.34 GB
Percent free space = 24 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 28 %
File fragmentation = 51 %
Free space fragmentation = 5 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 78,884
Average file size = 305 KB
Total fragmented files = 653
Total excess fragments = 120,794
Average fragments per file = 2.53

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.11 GB
Total fragments = 28,826

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 7,240
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 108 MB
MFT record count = 86,991
Percent MFT in use = 78 %
Total MFT fragments = 3

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
501 4 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\mscorl ib.dll
864 5 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System .Windows.Forms.dll
1,236 5 MB
\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\System .Design.dll
531 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_MSIL\System.Design\2.0.0.0__ b03f5f7f11d50a3a\System.Design.dll
501 5 MB
\WINDOWS\assembly\GAC_32\System.Web\2.0.0.0__b03f5 f7f11d50a3a\System.Web.dll
1,088 10 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_4_body.wav
559 10 MB \Program Files\Common
Files\Symantec Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\TCSCAN7.DAT
769 10 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_2_body.wav
597 11 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_1_body.wav
630 11 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\cached\audio\ingame_3_body.wav
715 11 MB \Program Files\Common
Files\Symantec Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan5.dat
815 12 MB \Program Files\Can You See What I
See\gfx\Animations\intro_animation_canyousee.swf
600 22 MB \Documents and
Settings\admin\ntuser.dat.gbck 533 24 MB
\WINDOWS\system32\MRT.exe 1,030 34 MB \Program
Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\20090311.003\VIRSCAN7.DAT 4,230 34 MB
\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\BinHub\virscan7.dat 1,441 34 MB
\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec
Shared\VirusDefs\20090318.006\VIRSCAN7.DAT 735 35 MB
\WINDOWS\system32\config\software.gbck 538 38 MB
\Program Files\Ulead Systems\Ulead VideoStudio 9.0\VfxIMGRC.dll
3,150 38 MB \Program Files\The Wizards Pen
TM\main.pak 631 39 MB \Program
Files\Java\jre1.6.0_03\lib\rt.jar 1,495 44 MB
\Program Files\Farm Frenzy Pizza Party\Data\Data.pack
715 46 MB \WINDOWS\Downloaded
Installations\{C5ADA65A-7828-4D85-B071-ECC52B51F794}\Sony Ericsson
PC Suite
1.20.173.msi
792 50 MB \Program Files\Roboball\data.pak
719 68 MB \Program Files\EA SPORTS\FIFA
2004\data\cmn\be\script.big
3,547 99 MB \Program Files\Build A Lot 3
Passport To Europe\Buildalot3.rez
1,417 114 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\708483.msp
2,050 128 MB \Program Files\Registry
Easy\FullBackup\Backup_20080531_100458.reg
2,053 128 MB \Program Files\Registry
Easy\FullBackup\Backup_20080614_090409.reg
3,455 431 MB \Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat
7.0\Setup Files\AcroPro\EFG\Data1.cab


Pls take note that:
1. I have more than 15% free space.
2. I turned off my screen saver and antivirus.
3. I run scandisk and disk cleanup before defragmentation.
4. I run in safe mode.
I have the above done, but it seems that the problem remain
unsolved.



  #30  
Old March 31st 09, 03:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain
Alister[_2_]
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Posts: 5
Default Some file on this volume could not be defragmented



"Teresa" wrote:

defragmentation issues

snip

Might I suggest PageDefrag from sysinternals?

This will defrag both the pagefile and registry hives.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb897426.aspx

Alister.
 




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