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Need to free memory
Do I need to uninstall or delete previous versions of programs? e.g. : I have
latest version of Java but my computer's C drive still keeps the two previous versions. Same goes for all the security updates that Microsoft does automatically. Do the latest versions replace the older ones? |
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You can and should delete the earlier versions of JAVA.
As for Windows security updates they should not be deleted/uninstalled. -- JS http://www.pagestart.com "assiral" wrote in message ... Do I need to uninstall or delete previous versions of programs? e.g. : I have latest version of Java but my computer's C drive still keeps the two previous versions. Same goes for all the security updates that Microsoft does automatically. Do the latest versions replace the older ones? |
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assiral wrote:
Do I need to uninstall or delete previous versions of programs? e.g. : I have latest version of Java but my computer's C drive still keeps the two previous versions. Same goes for all the security updates that Microsoft does automatically. Do the latest versions replace the older ones? So what does memory have to do with your question? You really need to free the *disk* space occupied by those files? Some programs may still require earlier versions of Java. Not every subsequent release of Java is wholly backward compatible with prior versions, and programs may rely on features or behavior from prior versions. However, if a program requires an earlier version of Java then they should check for that and alert you. Usually they just check for a minimal version and assume the functionality they expect to have available will be available in that version or later. In most cases, uninstall all versions of Java and just download and install the latest one. That will reduce your *disk* space (but nothing regarding memory consumption). The $name folders are only needed should you ever need to uninstall that patch, hotfix, or service pack. If you never intend to go backward (or you will simply flatten your host and install a fresh instance of the OS) then you don't need those subfolders. Alternatively, you could just zip them into a compressed archive file to keep them around. Removing the $name folders will not remove their entries in the Add/Remove Programs applet. |
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You do not have the latest version of JAVA. If you would then you would not see the
previous versions still being there. The latest version removes all previous versions of Java when installing. As far as freeing up space refer to the post by VanguardLH -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "assiral" wrote in message ... Do I need to uninstall or delete previous versions of programs? e.g. : I have latest version of Java but my computer's C drive still keeps the two previous versions. Same goes for all the security updates that Microsoft does automatically. Do the latest versions replace the older ones? |
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Peter Foldes wrote:
You do not have the latest version of JAVA. If you would then you would not see the previous versions still being there. The latest version removes all previous versions of Java when installing. As far as freeing up space refer to the post by VanguardLH Actually, this isn't quite true. One of the major complaints against Sun is that their updates won't automatically uninstall the earlier, still vulnerable versions of Java. I've found that their very latest installer (update 13) will remove one previous version. However, if there are multiple previous versions on a machine it won't remove all of them. To the OP: As you've been told, you should only have one version of Java installed. The latest version (Version 6 Update 13) can be found he http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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Peter Foldes wrote:
You do not have the latest version of JAVA. If you would then you would not see the previous versions still being there. The latest version removes all previous versions of Java when installing. As far as freeing up space refer to the post by VanguardLH Actually, this isn't quite true. One of the major complaints against Sun is that their updates won't automatically uninstall the earlier, still vulnerable versions of Java. I've found that their very latest installer (update 13) will remove one previous version. However, if there are multiple previous versions on a machine it won't remove all of them. To the OP: As you've been told, you should only have one version of Java installed. The latest version (Version 6 Update 13) can be found he http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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Thanks for the info and for clarifying the "memory" vs. "disk space" thing.
I do have the 6 and 13 Java update as my computer checks for latest versions automatically and in fact I noticed that the programs folder lists updates 10, 11, and then skips to 13. Thanks |
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Thanks for the info and for clarifying the "memory" vs. "disk space" thing.
I do have the 6 and 13 Java update as my computer checks for latest versions automatically and in fact I noticed that the programs folder lists updates 10, 11, and then skips to 13. Thanks |
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assiral wrote:
Do I need to uninstall or delete previous versions of programs? e.g. : I have latest version of Java but my computer's C drive still keeps the two previous versions. Same goes for all the security updates that Microsoft does automatically. Do the latest versions replace the older ones? Although in some circles, disk space is considered memory, it's more often referred to as disk space for clarity. Mamory can refer to a lot of things. Yes, if there are programs you don't use any longer, uninstall them. A few can just be deleted but that's not the norm, so be very carfeful. Go thru your add/remove to see what you might be able to do without. It's unlikely but remotely possible you might want the security update stuff for uninstalling updates, but very unlikely. If you're positive you'll never want to uninstall any updates, then go ahead and delete those. Otherwise, zip them up and save them on CD or something just in case, and store them away. Then delete them from the drive. Deleting those will not free up much disk space though. You've better off buying another hard drive. Java you only need the latest version. Some programs in some very few cases want a specific version of Java though; I have one of those. They also though, usually install the java to their own folder structure because they don't want future versions causingt it to be deleted. Again, zip them up and delete them. If everything still works fine, delete the zip. If not, you have it to put back. I suspect you won't find anything go wrong. None of that is going to recover much space for you though and it also won't last for long. You really need to look for a larger hard drive. In case you actually mean memory as in RAM, well, that's another story. RAM is also cheap these days. XP in normal situations seems to be happiest with 1 Gig or RAM. HTH, Twayne` |
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assiral wrote:
Do I need to uninstall or delete previous versions of programs? e.g. : I have latest version of Java but my computer's C drive still keeps the two previous versions. Same goes for all the security updates that Microsoft does automatically. Do the latest versions replace the older ones? Although in some circles, disk space is considered memory, it's more often referred to as disk space for clarity. Mamory can refer to a lot of things. Yes, if there are programs you don't use any longer, uninstall them. A few can just be deleted but that's not the norm, so be very carfeful. Go thru your add/remove to see what you might be able to do without. It's unlikely but remotely possible you might want the security update stuff for uninstalling updates, but very unlikely. If you're positive you'll never want to uninstall any updates, then go ahead and delete those. Otherwise, zip them up and save them on CD or something just in case, and store them away. Then delete them from the drive. Deleting those will not free up much disk space though. You've better off buying another hard drive. Java you only need the latest version. Some programs in some very few cases want a specific version of Java though; I have one of those. They also though, usually install the java to their own folder structure because they don't want future versions causingt it to be deleted. Again, zip them up and delete them. If everything still works fine, delete the zip. If not, you have it to put back. I suspect you won't find anything go wrong. None of that is going to recover much space for you though and it also won't last for long. You really need to look for a larger hard drive. In case you actually mean memory as in RAM, well, that's another story. RAM is also cheap these days. XP in normal situations seems to be happiest with 1 Gig or RAM. HTH, Twayne` |
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"assiral" wrote in message
... Do I need to uninstall or delete previous versions of programs? e.g. : I have latest version of Java but my computer's C drive still keeps the two previous versions. Same goes for all the security updates that Microsoft does automatically. Do the latest versions replace the older ones? Not necessarily. Some applications require *specific* versions of Java and will not function with other versions. For example, I have a Thinkpad laptop and the system utility software requires and includes a specific (and older) Java version. That Java version will *not* work with the Blackboard system (an educational suite used by many universities), and the utility will *not* work with the Java version Blackboard requires. So, for both of these to work, both Java versions must be present. Java isn't that big, so unless there is an actual functional problem that you're experiencing, I'd suggest leaving them where they are. As to the MS updates, if you're looking in the Windows folders, you're seeing the uninstallers for various hotfixes and updates. If you're sure you will never remove them, you can delete these folders, but in the end, they aren't taking that much space either. If your system is running out of space, hard disks are not expensive, and you can easily download full-functioning free demo versions of drive imaging software, which will allow you to quickly transfer everything to a (much) larger drive. HTH -pk |
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"assiral" wrote in message
... Do I need to uninstall or delete previous versions of programs? e.g. : I have latest version of Java but my computer's C drive still keeps the two previous versions. Same goes for all the security updates that Microsoft does automatically. Do the latest versions replace the older ones? Not necessarily. Some applications require *specific* versions of Java and will not function with other versions. For example, I have a Thinkpad laptop and the system utility software requires and includes a specific (and older) Java version. That Java version will *not* work with the Blackboard system (an educational suite used by many universities), and the utility will *not* work with the Java version Blackboard requires. So, for both of these to work, both Java versions must be present. Java isn't that big, so unless there is an actual functional problem that you're experiencing, I'd suggest leaving them where they are. As to the MS updates, if you're looking in the Windows folders, you're seeing the uninstallers for various hotfixes and updates. If you're sure you will never remove them, you can delete these folders, but in the end, they aren't taking that much space either. If your system is running out of space, hard disks are not expensive, and you can easily download full-functioning free demo versions of drive imaging software, which will allow you to quickly transfer everything to a (much) larger drive. HTH -pk |
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TY for the info Malke
-- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "Malke" wrote in message ... Peter Foldes wrote: You do not have the latest version of JAVA. If you would then you would not see the previous versions still being there. The latest version removes all previous versions of Java when installing. As far as freeing up space refer to the post by VanguardLH Actually, this isn't quite true. One of the major complaints against Sun is that their updates won't automatically uninstall the earlier, still vulnerable versions of Java. I've found that their very latest installer (update 13) will remove one previous version. However, if there are multiple previous versions on a machine it won't remove all of them. To the OP: As you've been told, you should only have one version of Java installed. The latest version (Version 6 Update 13) can be found he http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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TY for the info Malke
-- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "Malke" wrote in message ... Peter Foldes wrote: You do not have the latest version of JAVA. If you would then you would not see the previous versions still being there. The latest version removes all previous versions of Java when installing. As far as freeing up space refer to the post by VanguardLH Actually, this isn't quite true. One of the major complaints against Sun is that their updates won't automatically uninstall the earlier, still vulnerable versions of Java. I've found that their very latest installer (update 13) will remove one previous version. However, if there are multiple previous versions on a machine it won't remove all of them. To the OP: As you've been told, you should only have one version of Java installed. The latest version (Version 6 Update 13) can be found he http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
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