New computer and HD problems

Bought a Hp DC7600 - Pentium 4 3.00 GHZ. Its used but it has more
horse power than the one I'm replacing. Problem I'm having is that the
new/old computer doesn't want to regonize the Hard drives from my old
computer. On the old computer I was running Windows 7 - 64 bit. I
thought that I would just be able to swap the hard drives ; let the
computer discover and install all the new Hardware and I would be a
go. ( At least that is how I did it in the good old days ).
I have three hard drives that I want to swap. A 160 Gig with Windows
7; a 500 Gig with Windows XP ( both these are IDE drives ) and a 1
terabite Sata drive. The I terabite is recognized by the Bios; however
in windows XP it shows as only 128 Gig; this is in the computer
management componet; as if I try to open via Windows Explorer; it
tells me that the drive needs to be formated.
The other two drives would not show at first. I than changed their
order on the ribbon cable and was able to boot into the start up
screen of Windows Xp at which time the computer would re-boot and the
cycle would start all over.
Me thinks I'm doing something wrong and I need some guidance!

Just because it's a Pentium 4 doesn't mean its capable of running W7-64bit.
The unit originally sold with XP or XP Pro..........32 bit!!!

The normal procedure when moving a HD with an operating system installed to
a different machine is to run a "repair installation" upon first boot.
Here is a website that will explain the details
http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

peter

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Bought a Hp DC7600 - Pentium 4 3.00 GHZ. Its used but it has more
horse power than the one I'm replacing. Problem I'm having is that the
new/old computer doesn't want to regonize the Hard drives from my old
computer. On the old computer I was running Windows 7 - 64 bit. I
thought that I would just be able to swap the hard drives ; let the
computer discover and install all the new Hardware and I would be a
go. ( At least that is how I did it in the good old days ).
I have three hard drives that I want to swap. A 160 Gig with Windows
7; a 500 Gig with Windows XP ( both these are IDE drives ) and a 1
terabite Sata drive. The I terabite is recognized by the Bios; however
in windows XP it shows as only 128 Gig; this is in the computer
management componet; as if I try to open via Windows Explorer; it
tells me that the drive needs to be formated.
The other two drives would not show at first. I than changed their
order on the ribbon cable and was able to boot into the start up
screen of Windows Xp at which time the computer would re-boot and the
cycle would start all over.
Me thinks I'm doing something wrong and I need some guidance!

Just because it's a Pentium 4 doesn't mean its capable of running W7-64bit.
The unit originally sold with XP or XP Pro..........32 bit!!!

The normal procedure when moving a HD with an operating system installed to
a different machine is to run a "repair installation" upon first boot.
Here is a website that will explain the details
http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

peter

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If you find a posting or message from me offensive,inappropriate
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Bought a Hp DC7600 - Pentium 4 3.00 GHZ. Its used but it has more
horse power than the one I'm replacing. Problem I'm having is that the
new/old computer doesn't want to regonize the Hard drives from my old
computer. On the old computer I was running Windows 7 - 64 bit. I
thought that I would just be able to swap the hard drives ; let the
computer discover and install all the new Hardware and I would be a
go. ( At least that is how I did it in the good old days ).
I have three hard drives that I want to swap. A 160 Gig with Windows
7; a 500 Gig with Windows XP ( both these are IDE drives ) and a 1
terabite Sata drive. The I terabite is recognized by the Bios; however
in windows XP it shows as only 128 Gig; this is in the computer
management componet; as if I try to open via Windows Explorer; it
tells me that the drive needs to be formated.
The other two drives would not show at first. I than changed their
order on the ribbon cable and was able to boot into the start up
screen of Windows Xp at which time the computer would re-boot and the
cycle would start all over.
Me thinks I'm doing something wrong and I need some guidance!

wrote:
Bought a Hp DC7600 - Pentium 4 3.00 GHZ. Its used but it has more
horse power than the one I'm replacing. Problem I'm having is that the
new/old computer doesn't want to regonize the Hard drives from my old
computer. On the old computer I was running Windows 7 - 64 bit. I
thought that I would just be able to swap the hard drives ; let the
computer discover and install all the new Hardware and I would be a
go. ( At least that is how I did it in the good old days ).
I have three hard drives that I want to swap. A 160 Gig with Windows
7; a 500 Gig with Windows XP ( both these are IDE drives ) and a 1
terabite Sata drive. The I terabite is recognized by the Bios; however
in windows XP it shows as only 128 Gig; this is in the computer
management componet; as if I try to open via Windows Explorer; it
tells me that the drive needs to be formated.
The other two drives would not show at first. I than changed their
order on the ribbon cable and was able to boot into the start up
screen of Windows Xp at which time the computer would re-boot and the
cycle would start all over.
Me thinks I'm doing something wrong and I need some guidance!

You need a certain minimum Service Pack, in order for there to be
support for 48 bit logical block addressing (48 bit LBA). WinXP SP1
for example. If a machine has WinXP Gold (original release), then you
might observe a limit in Disk Management.

http://web.archive.org/*/http://www....c/tp/137gb.pdf

If you were installing the OS to a 500GB disk, you might want to
"slipstream" some Service Pack into the original installer CD, then
burn a new installer CD with the results. By doing so, the full size of
the disk can be used to make a C: partition when installing from scratch.

ATA/ATAPI standards span the older 28 bit LBA and newer 48 bit LBA. The 28 bits
specifies a sector number and there are 2**9 bytes per sector (512 bytes).
That is 2**(28+9) = 2**37 bytes or 137,438,953,472 bytes. The ATA6 standard,
introduces 48 bit LBA, so more bytes can be addressed.

SP1 includes support for 48 bit LBA, so if the drive can be addressed that
way, there won't be a limitation at 137GB.

If you update the OS, then the max size supported may increase, but
the partition you defined with the WinXP Gold disk would still exist.
Using a Partition Manager program (Partition Magic, GParted), you could
stretch the 137GB partition to fill the entire 500GB disk. It is only
safe to stretch the partition that large, if all the support elements
are in place.

You have to be very careful with 137GB disks, because if you
reinstall the OS, and go through the "WinXP Gold" stage again,
you can suddenly find yourself with 137GB support again. If that
happens, a disk can be immediately corrupted. So if you set up
a computer, such that it can support large hard drives, you have
to be wary of what you've done later. For example, keeping a
slipstreamed installer CD next to the computer (with SP1 or later on
it), means you won't accidentally reinstall a version of OS that
can corrupt the data stored on the computer.

On my current system, I had WinXP SP3 on one hard drive, and
Win2K SP2 on the other. Win2K SP2 does not support large hard
drives. By keeping all partitions on both disks below the 137GB
mark, I was able to boot either OS, without corrupting the disks.
Now that I've upgraded the Win2K disk to SP4, I no longer have
to worry about that, with respect to my two Windows boot options.
If I want to extend one of the disks into the area above 137GB,
it is now safe for me to do that. (It was one of the reasons
I finally took a few moments to finish the upgrade.) I have a
slipstreamed Win2K SP4 disk I built, so if a reinstall is necessary,
the first reboot of that installed OS, won't mess up the
disks. I used Autostreamer to build that CD. Other options
include the NLite program from Nliteos.

http://www.nliteos.com/guide/part1.html

Paul

wrote:
Bought a Hp DC7600 - Pentium 4 3.00 GHZ. Its used but it has more
horse power than the one I'm replacing. Problem I'm having is that the
new/old computer doesn't want to regonize the Hard drives from my old
computer. On the old computer I was running Windows 7 - 64 bit. I
thought that I would just be able to swap the hard drives ; let the
computer discover and install all the new Hardware and I would be a
go. ( At least that is how I did it in the good old days ).
I have three hard drives that I want to swap. A 160 Gig with Windows
7; a 500 Gig with Windows XP ( both these are IDE drives ) and a 1
terabite Sata drive. The I terabite is recognized by the Bios; however
in windows XP it shows as only 128 Gig; this is in the computer
management componet; as if I try to open via Windows Explorer; it
tells me that the drive needs to be formated.
The other two drives would not show at first. I than changed their
order on the ribbon cable and was able to boot into the start up
screen of Windows Xp at which time the computer would re-boot and the
cycle would start all over.
Me thinks I'm doing something wrong and I need some guidance!

You need a certain minimum Service Pack, in order for there to be
support for 48 bit logical block addressing (48 bit LBA). WinXP SP1
for example. If a machine has WinXP Gold (original release), then you
might observe a limit in Disk Management.

http://web.archive.org/*/http://www....c/tp/137gb.pdf

If you were installing the OS to a 500GB disk, you might want to
"slipstream" some Service Pack into the original installer CD, then
burn a new installer CD with the results. By doing so, the full size of
the disk can be used to make a C: partition when installing from scratch.

ATA/ATAPI standards span the older 28 bit LBA and newer 48 bit LBA. The 28 bits
specifies a sector number and there are 2**9 bytes per sector (512 bytes).
That is 2**(28+9) = 2**37 bytes or 137,438,953,472 bytes. The ATA6 standard,
introduces 48 bit LBA, so more bytes can be addressed.

SP1 includes support for 48 bit LBA, so if the drive can be addressed that
way, there won't be a limitation at 137GB.

If you update the OS, then the max size supported may increase, but
the partition you defined with the WinXP Gold disk would still exist.
Using a Partition Manager program (Partition Magic, GParted), you could
stretch the 137GB partition to fill the entire 500GB disk. It is only
safe to stretch the partition that large, if all the support elements
are in place.

You have to be very careful with 137GB disks, because if you
reinstall the OS, and go through the "WinXP Gold" stage again,
you can suddenly find yourself with 137GB support again. If that
happens, a disk can be immediately corrupted. So if you set up
a computer, such that it can support large hard drives, you have
to be wary of what you've done later. For example, keeping a
slipstreamed installer CD next to the computer (with SP1 or later on
it), means you won't accidentally reinstall a version of OS that
can corrupt the data stored on the computer.

On my current system, I had WinXP SP3 on one hard drive, and
Win2K SP2 on the other. Win2K SP2 does not support large hard
drives. By keeping all partitions on both disks below the 137GB
mark, I was able to boot either OS, without corrupting the disks.
Now that I've upgraded the Win2K disk to SP4, I no longer have
to worry about that, with respect to my two Windows boot options.
If I want to extend one of the disks into the area above 137GB,
it is now safe for me to do that. (It was one of the reasons
I finally took a few moments to finish the upgrade.) I have a
slipstreamed Win2K SP4 disk I built, so if a reinstall is necessary,
the first reboot of that installed OS, won't mess up the
disks. I used Autostreamer to build that CD. Other options
include the NLite program from Nliteos.

http://www.nliteos.com/guide/part1.html

Paul

peter wrote:
Just because it's a Pentium 4 doesn't mean its capable of running W7-64bit.
The unit originally sold with XP or XP Pro..........32 bit!!!

The normal procedure when moving a HD with an operating system installed to
a different machine is to run a "repair installation" upon first boot.
Here is a website that will explain the details
http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

peter

I understand what you are suggesting. I did follow your link and have
read it. I have a full backup if **** happens!
I have solved the problem of the new system not recognizing the new 1
terabit. All I had to do was make sure that the service packs were all
installed. It now reads the drive properly.
I don't expect the new computer to run my Windows 7 installation; as
like you said it is only 32 bit. I will leave that drive in the old
computer. It is my 500 gig drive that has Windows Xp Professional and
all the service packs and updates that I want to move over. When I
tried; it would boot; but only to the start up screen; it would than
reboot and start all over. The new computer has a 80 gig drive with a
new installation of Windows XP. I would like to remove that drive and
replace it with the old 500 gig drive. One would think that any jumper
settings should not have to be changed. However; I could be wrong. I
will have to check and make sure; but me thinks that the 500 gig drive
was set as master in the old computer.
Does it matter; where on the ribbon cable the master is connected? Also;
this is the first time that I am dealing with a mother board that is
Sata oriented. Presently the boot drive ( the one I will remove ) is
hooked to a Sata port. Does anything have to be changed in order for
this board to boot from a IDE connection?
Thanks for your time and trouble!

theslaz wrote:
peter wrote:
Just because it's a Pentium 4 doesn't mean its capable of running
W7-64bit.
The unit originally sold with XP or XP Pro..........32 bit!!!

The normal procedure when moving a HD with an operating system
installed to
a different machine is to run a "repair installation" upon first boot.
Here is a website that will explain the details
http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

peter

I understand what you are suggesting. I did follow your link and have
read it. I have a full backup if **** happens!
I have solved the problem of the new system not recognizing the new 1
terabit. All I had to do was make sure that the service packs were all
installed. It now reads the drive properly.
I don't expect the new computer to run my Windows 7 installation; as
like you said it is only 32 bit. I will leave that drive in the old
computer. It is my 500 gig drive that has Windows Xp Professional and
all the service packs and updates that I want to move over. When I
tried; it would boot; but only to the start up screen; it would than
reboot and start all over. The new computer has a 80 gig drive with a
new installation of Windows XP. I would like to remove that drive and
replace it with the old 500 gig drive. One would think that any jumper
settings should not have to be changed. However; I could be wrong. I
will have to check and make sure; but me thinks that the 500 gig drive
was set as master in the old computer.
Does it matter; where on the ribbon cable the master is connected? Also;
this is the first time that I am dealing with a mother board that is
Sata oriented. Presently the boot drive ( the one I will remove ) is
hooked to a Sata port. Does anything have to be changed in order for
this board to boot from a IDE connection?
Thanks for your time and trouble!
Just thought that I would add this. What I did not do; and probably
should have tried; was connect the old system drive and than reboot with
Windows XP installation disk and than try and do a repair as you
suggested . Is this correct?