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Any way to upgrade RAM???
My HP Pavilion Desktop already has 512 MB Ram (max according to
specs) http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...name=bph06796# What can i do to make this old beast go faster? Other than put it on the Acela, i don't know what to do. What would happen if i put 2 x 512 MB memory sticks in place of the others? can i "piggyback" them? Can someone please advise? Rich |
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My HP Pavilion Desktop already has 512 MB Ram (max according to specs) http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...name=bph06796# What can i do to make this old beast go faster? Other than put it on the Acela, i don't know what to do. What would happen if i put 2 x 512 MB memory sticks in place of the others? can i "piggyback" them? Can someone please advise? Rich I'm afraid the answer is "buy a new beast". I have a Tualatin 1.4GHz processor, and that is about as fast as they got (mine is an S370 chip, but I have a Slot 1 adapter so I can use it on a Slot 1 computer). So slapping in a faster processor, would make the machine faster in name only. You'd likely not even notice the difference. The rest of the machine could hold such a processor back. SDRAM running at 100MHz, isn't exactly "fast". Modern memory, like DDR3-2000, transfers data at 20x of the rate. (Modern memory still has poor latency characteristics, so not all speed factors scaled as well as the bus rate did.) Modern memory has also supported much larger quantities of memory. The largest desktop DIMM might have been 4GB in a single stick of RAM, whereas the sticks you're using are 16x smaller. Overclocking would be your best option, if you lived on a island and has no other options at hand. Ten years ago, there were people doing stuff like this. Running their computer bus at 150MHz, instead of 100MHz or 133MHz. Actually, it turns out, that as of today, you could find memory chips of that type and operating voltage, that run at 200MHz. So eventually, faster memory chips were made. But the thing is, the "wheels would fall off the computer" if you did that. I doubt the chipset could keep up if you tried that, and it would crash. http://www.tipperlinne.com/p2b-s150.htm If you scroll to the bottom of this page, you can see the best platform of its generation. This P2B-DS motherboard has two Slot 1 processors, each running at 1.5GHz. The memory is 768MB running at 150MHz. And just about any $300 Walmart computer would blow the doors off this now :-) It's still pretty to look at though. Ten years ago, this would have been drool-worthy. http://www.tipperlinne.com/p2bmod Paul |
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Any way to upgrade RAM???
There really isn't much that you can do. The machine can only handle
512MB of RAM, you can't change that. The Celeron 1.1 GHz/100 processor is not exactly the newest or fastest thing out there. All that you can do is make sure that the machine is clean and free of pests and to make sure that there are no unnecessary processes running in the background. If money is tight you can look for a secondhand/refurbished machine, you can pick up a P4 3.0+ GHz machine with 1 GB of RAM or more and Windows XP Pro preinstalled for about $200, not a bad deal for a machine that could easily serve your purpose for a few more years! John wrote: My HP Pavilion Desktop already has 512 MB Ram (max according to specs) http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...name=bph06796# What can i do to make this old beast go faster? Other than put it on the Acela, i don't know what to do. What would happen if i put 2 x 512 MB memory sticks in place of the others? can i "piggyback" them? Can someone please advise? Rich |
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Any way to upgrade RAM???
There really isn't much that you can do. The machine can only handle
512MB of RAM, you can't change that. The Celeron 1.1 GHz/100 processor is not exactly the newest or fastest thing out there. All that you can do is make sure that the machine is clean and free of pests and to make sure that there are no unnecessary processes running in the background. If money is tight you can look for a secondhand/refurbished machine, you can pick up a P4 3.0+ GHz machine with 1 GB of RAM or more and Windows XP Pro preinstalled for about $200, not a bad deal for a machine that could easily serve your purpose for a few more years! John wrote: My HP Pavilion Desktop already has 512 MB Ram (max according to specs) http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...name=bph06796# What can i do to make this old beast go faster? Other than put it on the Acela, i don't know what to do. What would happen if i put 2 x 512 MB memory sticks in place of the others? can i "piggyback" them? Can someone please advise? Rich |
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On Nov 22, 12:21*pm, John John - MVP wrote:
There really isn't much that you can do. *The machine can only handle 512MB of RAM, you can't change that. *The Celeron 1.1 GHz/100 processor is not exactly the newest or fastest thing out there. *All that you can do is make sure that the machine is clean and free of pests and to make sure that there are no unnecessary processes running in the background. * If money is tight you can look for a secondhand/refurbished machine, you can pick up a P4 3.0+ GHz machine with 1 GB of RAM or more and Windows XP Pro preinstalled for about $200, not a bad deal for a machine that could easily serve your purpose for a few more years! John wrote: My HP Pavilion Desktop already has 512 MB Ram (max according to specs) http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...n&cc=us&docnam... What can i do to make this old beast go faster? *Other than put it on the Acela, i don't know what to do. *What would happen if i put 2 x 512 MB memory sticks in place of the others? can i "piggyback" them? Can someone please advise? Rich- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thank you both for your good advice. sounds like it's time to upgrade. this "old faithful" desktop has been great but 9 yrs is like 63 in dog years. hope i live that long. |
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Any way to upgrade RAM???
On Nov 22, 12:21*pm, John John - MVP wrote:
There really isn't much that you can do. *The machine can only handle 512MB of RAM, you can't change that. *The Celeron 1.1 GHz/100 processor is not exactly the newest or fastest thing out there. *All that you can do is make sure that the machine is clean and free of pests and to make sure that there are no unnecessary processes running in the background. * If money is tight you can look for a secondhand/refurbished machine, you can pick up a P4 3.0+ GHz machine with 1 GB of RAM or more and Windows XP Pro preinstalled for about $200, not a bad deal for a machine that could easily serve your purpose for a few more years! John wrote: My HP Pavilion Desktop already has 512 MB Ram (max according to specs) http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...n&cc=us&docnam... What can i do to make this old beast go faster? *Other than put it on the Acela, i don't know what to do. *What would happen if i put 2 x 512 MB memory sticks in place of the others? can i "piggyback" them? Can someone please advise? Rich- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thank you both for your good advice. sounds like it's time to upgrade. this "old faithful" desktop has been great but 9 yrs is like 63 in dog years. hope i live that long. |
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On Nov 22, 8:07*pm, richs555 wrote:
On Nov 22, 12:21*pm, John John - MVP wrote: There really isn't much that you can do. *The machine can only handle 512MB of RAM, you can't change that. *The Celeron 1.1 GHz/100 processor is not exactly the newest or fastest thing out there. *All that you can do is make sure that the machine is clean and free of pests and to make sure that there are no unnecessary processes running in the background. * If money is tight you can look for a secondhand/refurbished machine, you can pick up a P4 3.0+ GHz machine with 1 GB of RAM or more and Windows XP Pro preinstalled for about $200, not a bad deal for a machine that could easily serve your purpose for a few more years! John wrote: My HP Pavilion Desktop already has 512 MB Ram (max according to specs) http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...n&cc=us&docnam... What can i do to make this old beast go faster? *Other than put it on the Acela, i don't know what to do. *What would happen if i put 2 x 512 MB memory sticks in place of the others? can i "piggyback" them? Can someone please advise? Rich- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thank you both for your good advice. *sounds like it's time to upgrade. *this "old faithful" desktop has been great but 9 yrs is like 63 in dog years. hope i live that long. 9 years is an "eternity" in computer years. You maxed out the hardware and really maxed out the years. |
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Any way to upgrade RAM???
On Nov 22, 8:07*pm, richs555 wrote:
On Nov 22, 12:21*pm, John John - MVP wrote: There really isn't much that you can do. *The machine can only handle 512MB of RAM, you can't change that. *The Celeron 1.1 GHz/100 processor is not exactly the newest or fastest thing out there. *All that you can do is make sure that the machine is clean and free of pests and to make sure that there are no unnecessary processes running in the background. * If money is tight you can look for a secondhand/refurbished machine, you can pick up a P4 3.0+ GHz machine with 1 GB of RAM or more and Windows XP Pro preinstalled for about $200, not a bad deal for a machine that could easily serve your purpose for a few more years! John wrote: My HP Pavilion Desktop already has 512 MB Ram (max according to specs) http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...n&cc=us&docnam... What can i do to make this old beast go faster? *Other than put it on the Acela, i don't know what to do. *What would happen if i put 2 x 512 MB memory sticks in place of the others? can i "piggyback" them? Can someone please advise? Rich- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thank you both for your good advice. *sounds like it's time to upgrade. *this "old faithful" desktop has been great but 9 yrs is like 63 in dog years. hope i live that long. 9 years is an "eternity" in computer years. You maxed out the hardware and really maxed out the years. |
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Any way to upgrade RAM???
Its true that 9 years is a long time these days, but we should be more
demanding of our Operating Systems. Instead, everyone just rolls over and says, "OK, I'll buy a new computer". Almost every update that Microsoft put onto our computers, particularly .NET-related stuff, just eats into hard-disk capacities and adds extra layers of unecesary gumpff to slow down our PCs. Same is true of rubbish put into the HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrent VersionRun folder and Services and Startup folder by random software producers, like Google and Adobe. Is it really that much to ask that a great machine bought today is a good machine in 10 years' time and a decent machine in 20? It wouldn't be if the OS was lean and mean. There is a lot you can do yourself, though, by cleaning up those areas mentioned above. Alain "smlunatick" wrote in message ... On Nov 22, 8:07 pm, richs555 wrote: On Nov 22, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP wrote: Thank you both for your good advice. sounds like it's time to upgrade. this "old faithful" desktop has been great but 9 yrs is like 63 in dog years. hope i live that long. 9 years is an "eternity" in computer years. You maxed out the hardware and really maxed out the years. |
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Any way to upgrade RAM???
Its true that 9 years is a long time these days, but we should be more demanding of our Operating Systems. Instead, everyone just rolls over and says, "OK, I'll buy a new computer". Almost every update that Microsoft put onto our computers, particularly .NET-related stuff, just eats into hard-disk capacities and adds extra layers of unecesary gumpff to slow down our PCs. Same is true of rubbish put into the HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrent VersionRun folder and Services and Startup folder by random software producers, like Google and Adobe. Is it really that much to ask that a great machine bought today is a good machine in 10 years' time and a decent machine in 20? It wouldn't be if the OS was lean and mean. There is a lot you can do yourself, though, by cleaning up those areas mentioned above. Alain "smlunatick" wrote in message ... On Nov 22, 8:07 pm, richs555 wrote: On Nov 22, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP wrote: Thank you both for your good advice. sounds like it's time to upgrade. this "old faithful" desktop has been great but 9 yrs is like 63 in dog years. hope i live that long. 9 years is an "eternity" in computer years. You maxed out the hardware and really maxed out the years. |
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On Dec 1, 4:11*pm, "Alain Dekker" wrote:
Its true that 9 years is a long time these days, but we should be more demanding of our Operating Systems. Instead, everyone just rolls over and says, "OK, I'll buy a new computer". Almost every update that Microsoft put onto our computers, particularly .NET-related stuff, just eats into hard-disk capacities and adds extra layers of unecesary gumpff to slow down our PCs. Same is true of rubbish put into the HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrent VersionRun folder and Services and Startup folder by random software producers, like Google and Adobe. Is it really that much to ask that a great machine bought today is a good machine in 10 years' time and a decent machine in 20? It wouldn't be if the OS was lean and mean. There is a lot you can do yourself, though, by cleaning up those areas mentioned above. Alain "smlunatick" wrote in message ... On Nov 22, 8:07 pm, richs555 wrote: On Nov 22, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP wrote: Thank you both for your good advice. sounds like it's time to upgrade. this "old faithful" desktop has been great but 9 yrs is like 63 in dog years. hope i live that long. 9 years is an "eternity" in computer years. *You maxed out the hardware and really maxed out the years. The only problem is that Windows is constantly demanding more processing "horse-power." When the current PC can no longer be upgraded, we must consider the "ultimate" upgrade of a complete PC replacement. Otherwises, you will need to use a less "resource hog" operating system. |
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On Dec 1, 4:11*pm, "Alain Dekker" wrote:
Its true that 9 years is a long time these days, but we should be more demanding of our Operating Systems. Instead, everyone just rolls over and says, "OK, I'll buy a new computer". Almost every update that Microsoft put onto our computers, particularly .NET-related stuff, just eats into hard-disk capacities and adds extra layers of unecesary gumpff to slow down our PCs. Same is true of rubbish put into the HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrent VersionRun folder and Services and Startup folder by random software producers, like Google and Adobe. Is it really that much to ask that a great machine bought today is a good machine in 10 years' time and a decent machine in 20? It wouldn't be if the OS was lean and mean. There is a lot you can do yourself, though, by cleaning up those areas mentioned above. Alain "smlunatick" wrote in message ... On Nov 22, 8:07 pm, richs555 wrote: On Nov 22, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP wrote: Thank you both for your good advice. sounds like it's time to upgrade. this "old faithful" desktop has been great but 9 yrs is like 63 in dog years. hope i live that long. 9 years is an "eternity" in computer years. *You maxed out the hardware and really maxed out the years. The only problem is that Windows is constantly demanding more processing "horse-power." When the current PC can no longer be upgraded, we must consider the "ultimate" upgrade of a complete PC replacement. Otherwises, you will need to use a less "resource hog" operating system. |
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Alain Dekker wrote:
Its true that 9 years is a long time these days, but we should be more demanding of our Operating Systems. Instead, everyone just rolls over and says, "OK, I'll buy a new computer". Almost every update that Microsoft put onto our computers, particularly .NET-related stuff, just eats into hard-disk capacities and adds extra layers of unecesary gumpff to slow down our PCs. Same is true of rubbish put into the HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrent VersionRun folder and Services and Startup folder by random software producers, like Google and Adobe. Is it really that much to ask that a great machine bought today is a good machine in 10 years' time and a decent machine in 20? It wouldn't be if the OS was lean and mean. If all you wanted was a reliable machine to run a group of programs competently for many years get a Unix system. What is killing the performance of computers is the constant requirements for more graphics, etc. I have programs that are over 20 years old that still do the job they were designed for quickly on older hardware. If I gave in to the mentality that they required all kinds of windows and drop downs the programs would probably quit being as reliable or easy to use and require a huge increase of computer power to run. There is a lot you can do yourself, though, by cleaning up those areas mentioned above. Alain "smlunatick" wrote in message ... On Nov 22, 8:07 pm, richs555 wrote: On Nov 22, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP wrote: Thank you both for your good advice. sounds like it's time to upgrade. this "old faithful" desktop has been great but 9 yrs is like 63 in dog years. hope i live that long. 9 years is an "eternity" in computer years. You maxed out the hardware and really maxed out the years. |
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Alain Dekker wrote:
Its true that 9 years is a long time these days, but we should be more demanding of our Operating Systems. Instead, everyone just rolls over and says, "OK, I'll buy a new computer". Almost every update that Microsoft put onto our computers, particularly .NET-related stuff, just eats into hard-disk capacities and adds extra layers of unecesary gumpff to slow down our PCs. Same is true of rubbish put into the HKLMSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrent VersionRun folder and Services and Startup folder by random software producers, like Google and Adobe. Is it really that much to ask that a great machine bought today is a good machine in 10 years' time and a decent machine in 20? It wouldn't be if the OS was lean and mean. If all you wanted was a reliable machine to run a group of programs competently for many years get a Unix system. What is killing the performance of computers is the constant requirements for more graphics, etc. I have programs that are over 20 years old that still do the job they were designed for quickly on older hardware. If I gave in to the mentality that they required all kinds of windows and drop downs the programs would probably quit being as reliable or easy to use and require a huge increase of computer power to run. There is a lot you can do yourself, though, by cleaning up those areas mentioned above. Alain "smlunatick" wrote in message ... On Nov 22, 8:07 pm, richs555 wrote: On Nov 22, 12:21 pm, John John - MVP wrote: Thank you both for your good advice. sounds like it's time to upgrade. this "old faithful" desktop has been great but 9 yrs is like 63 in dog years. hope i live that long. 9 years is an "eternity" in computer years. You maxed out the hardware and really maxed out the years. |
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