Article: Turmoil at Microsoft

I haven't seen this posted here, although I may have missed it. It's an
interesting read.



Turmoil at Microsoft; implications for Windows users
http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/turmoil-at-microsoft-implications-for-windows-users/

Microsoft in general and the Windows group in particular have gone through
enormous changes within the past year. All the key Windows 8 players are
out.

Most of us can only speculate on the reasons for the massive turnover, but
one point remains clear: under new management, Windows is in for changes.

(The rest is at the link above and is quite interesting.)

Char Jackson wrote:
I haven't seen this posted here, although I may have missed it. It's an
interesting read.

Turmoil at Microsoft; implications for Windows users
http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/turmoil-at-microsoft-implications-for-windows-users/

Microsoft in general and the Windows group in particular have gone through
enormous changes within the past year. All the key Windows 8 players are
out.

Most of us can only speculate on the reasons for the massive turnover, but
one point remains clear: under new management, Windows is in for changes.

(The rest is at the link above and is quite interesting.)

Good article.
Thanks Char.

Char Jackson wrote:
I haven't seen this posted here, although I may have missed it. It's an
interesting read.



Turmoil at Microsoft; implications for Windows users
http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/turmoil-at-microsoft-implications-for-windows-users/

Microsoft in general and the Windows group in particular have gone through
enormous changes within the past year. All the key Windows 8 players are
out.

Most of us can only speculate on the reasons for the massive turnover, but
one point remains clear: under new management, Windows is in for changes.

(The rest is at the link above and is quite interesting.)


This is my link for the day.

http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-201203-201402

The WinXP users are disappearing somewhere. I'm guessing
they're hiding under a rock, waiting for the weather to
improve.

Paul

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said:

Char Jackson wrote:
I haven't seen this posted here, although I may have missed it. It's an
interesting read.



Turmoil at Microsoft; implications for Windows users
http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/turmoil-at-microsoft-implications-for-windows-users/

Microsoft in general and the Windows group in particular have gone through
enormous changes within the past year. All the key Windows 8 players are
out.

Most of us can only speculate on the reasons for the massive turnover, but
one point remains clear: under new management, Windows is in for changes.

(The rest is at the link above and is quite interesting.)


This is my link for the day.

http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-201203-201402

The WinXP users are disappearing somewhere. I'm guessing
they're hiding under a rock, waiting for the weather to
improve.

Probably. It's not OSX, Windows 8/8.1 already has more users than every
version of OSX combined, and it's not Linux, since you can add Linux
desktop users to the OSX count without changing anything.

More likely it's a combination of people using/needing less computers in
general (one "family" computer is more practical now than a few years
ago, since everyone has very capable mobile devices as primary devices,
only needing the real computer for a very limited set of tasks), so I'd
guess that a lot of those old XP machines are simply disappearing.

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Found this website: http://usenetstats.com/, where you can see groups with
activity.

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In the last episode of , Paul
said:

Char Jackson wrote:
I haven't seen this posted here, although I may have missed it. It's an
interesting read.



Turmoil at Microsoft; implications for Windows users
http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/turmoil-at-microsoft-implications-for-windows-users/

Microsoft in general and the Windows group in particular have gone
through
enormous changes within the past year. All the key Windows 8 players are
out.

Most of us can only speculate on the reasons for the massive turnover,
but
one point remains clear: under new management, Windows is in for changes.

(The rest is at the link above and is quite interesting.)


This is my link for the day.

http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-201203-201402

The WinXP users are disappearing somewhere. I'm guessing
they're hiding under a rock, waiting for the weather to
improve.

Probably. It's not OSX, Windows 8/8.1 already has more users than every
version of OSX combined, and it's not Linux, since you can add Linux
desktop users to the OSX count without changing anything.

More likely it's a combination of people using/needing less computers in
general (one "family" computer is more practical now than a few years
ago, since everyone has very capable mobile devices as primary devices,
only needing the real computer for a very limited set of tasks), so I'd
guess that a lot of those old XP machines are simply disappearing.

--
DevilsPGD - A spews parrot and a member of the spews lunatics
of n.a.n-a.e. (AKA spews fanatics)

"Char Jackson" wrote in message
...
I haven't seen this posted here, although I may have missed it. It's an
interesting read.



Turmoil at Microsoft; implications for Windows users
http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/turmoil-at-microsoft-implications-for-windows-users/

Microsoft in general and the Windows group in particular have gone through
enormous changes within the past year. All the key Windows 8 players are
out.

Most of us can only speculate on the reasons for the massive turnover, but
one point remains clear: under new management, Windows is in for changes.

(The rest is at the link above and is quite interesting.)


Good article! These are troubling times in the kingdom, my lord :-)
--
SC Tom

On 3/4/14 9:56 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2014-03-03 11:15 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
I haven't seen this posted here, although I may have missed it. It's an
interesting read.



Turmoil at Microsoft; implications for Windows users
http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/turmoil-at-microsoft-implications-for-windows-users/

Microsoft in general and the Windows group in particular have gone through
enormous changes within the past year. All the key Windows 8 players are
out.

Most of us can only speculate on the reasons for the massive turnover, but
one point remains clear: under new management, Windows is in for changes.

(The rest is at the link above and is quite interesting.)

Interesting, it has the ring of truth. Or if you like its truthiness
score is high. ;-)

IMO, the future is phablets. I see no technical reason not to have the
same GUI/user experience on all hardware, with user-selectable variants
that work better with some devices than others.

While there's no technical reason not to have the same GUI on all
hardware, the question to ask is, is the GUI a practical solution for
all hardware?

I have a new Google Nexus 7 2013 model, I really like it. And I don't
mind the finger swipes/gestures. But I'll be damned if I want to do
that on any of my desktop monitors. My shoulder joints are getting bad
enough without having to add this task to their wear and tear.

But typing is a PITA. OK. So add a mouse and keyboard. OH, and the
screen is too small for something truly serious, let's add a monitor.
Now we'll make them bigger. Golly gee whiz, it's the same size as a
laptop. Which is basically what you have with the convertible Surface
tablet, isn't it?

What have we really gained to get back to where we are now, except to
spend a lot of money collectively. :-(


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 24.0
Thunderbird 24.0

On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 22:15:29 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:

I haven't seen this posted here, although I may have missed it. It's an
interesting read.



Turmoil at Microsoft; implications for Windows users
http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/turmoil-at-microsoft-implications-for-windows-users/

Microsoft in general and the Windows group in particular have gone through
enormous changes within the past year. All the key Windows 8 players are
out.

Most of us can only speculate on the reasons for the massive turnover, but
one point remains clear: under new management, Windows is in for changes.

(The rest is at the link above and is quite interesting.)


Thanks. I knew a little of what he says, but he provides much more in
the way of detail than I knew.

Per Ken Springer:
But I'll be damned if I want to do
that on any of my desktop monitors. My shoulder joints are getting bad enough without having to add this task to their wear and tear.

I'll take it one step further. I recently bought a Windows 8.1 laptop
with touch screen.

Now all the swipe/pinch/tap gestures that work on my Android phone and
tablet are available to me on the Windows laptop.

I've *tried*.... and all operations are possible using the touch screen
and no mouse or trackpad.... and if I'm vegging out laying on a couch
watching TV on it - with the laptop laying on my stomach, keyboard
horizontal and screen vertical; touch control is the logical choice.

But mostly it's easier, more convenient, less fatiguing using a mouse.

Part of it is that there's the keyboard between the user and the screen
- unlike on a tablet or Surface machine... but I don't think that is all
or even most of it.
--
Pete Cresswell

Paul wrote:
Char Jackson wrote:
I haven't seen this posted here, although I may have missed it. It's an
interesting read.



Turmoil at Microsoft; implications for Windows users
http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/turmoil-at-microsoft-implications-for-windows-users/


Microsoft in general and the Windows group in particular have gone
through
enormous changes within the past year. All the key Windows 8 players are
out.

Most of us can only speculate on the reasons for the massive turnover,
but
one point remains clear: under new management, Windows is in for changes.

(The rest is at the link above and is quite interesting.)


This is my link for the day.

http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-201203-201402

The WinXP users are disappearing somewhere. I'm guessing
they're hiding under a rock, waiting for the weather to
improve.

Paul
The weather could be a factor and may even improve but April 8th
(end-of-life) would appear to be more significant.

And to help some of those remaining XP users move on...

http://blogs.windows.com/windows/b/w...fications.aspx


Plus...while deciding if they should move on....
"On March 8th, 2014, Windows XP customers using the Home or Professional
editions who have elected to receive updates via Windows Update will
receive an official notification on their desktop screen via Windows
Update informing them that support for Windows XP will end on April 8th,
2014. "

--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps

Char Jackson wrote:
I haven't seen this posted here, although I may have missed it. It's an
interesting read.

The most important lines(2 paragraphs) in WL's write-up...
"In summary, the new Windows team isn’t just mobile-savvy — by and
large, they’re mobile veterans. There’s a bit of old-fashioned Windows
depth, but Phone and Xbox dominate. That’s a very important point to
remember when you look at Windows’ future.

I also note in passing that Satya Nadella, the new Microsoft CEO, was in
charge of Bing less than three years ago. So the new heavy hitters know
both mobile and the cloud — arguably two of the blind spots among their
predecessors."


i.e. If waiting for Windows to go backward and look like XP, it ain't
going to happen. Smart devices capable of integrating with the cloud
drive the future. Look east...as the infrastructure improves....there
are at least 3 times more potential users than all Windows systems in
existence today.


--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps

"...winston‫" wrote:
Char Jackson wrote:
I haven't seen this posted here, although I may have missed it. It's an
interesting read.

The most important lines(2 paragraphs) in WL's write-up...
"In summary, the new Windows team isn’t just mobile-savvy — by and
large, they’re mobile veterans. There’s a bit of old-fashioned Windows
depth, but Phone and Xbox dominate. That’s a very important point to
remember when you look at Windows’ future.

I also note in passing that Satya Nadella, the new Microsoft CEO, was in
charge of Bing less than three years ago. So the new heavy hitters know
both mobile and the cloud — arguably two of the blind spots among their
predecessors."


i.e. If waiting for Windows to go backward and look like XP, it ain't
going to happen. Smart devices capable of integrating with the cloud
drive the future. Look east...as the infrastructure improves....there
are at least 3 times more potential users than all Windows systems in
existence today.



Those "potential users" are mostly very poor. If you think
China/India/Vietnam, et al wants to give their workers rights like a
living wage, you're very naive.

Whether the cloud will be successful remains to be seen. As we all know
the "cloud" is a hard drive on some company's a server. Hard drives die
and after Snowden's revelations about NSA, some paranoia will keep many
away from trusting someone else's hard drive. Personally, one of the
first things I do after installing Win 8 is disable OneDrive.

--
Blue

On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 21:49:52 -0700, "...winston?"
wrote:

If waiting for Windows to go backward and look like XP, it ain't
going to happen.

Linux Mint appears to be going forward by looking like XP, so it must
appeal to somebody.

And look at the popularity of third party menus to make Windows 8 look
like Windows 7. Which direction is "forward" anyway, and who decides?

Smart devices capable of integrating with the cloud
drive the future.

Not my future if I can avoid it. In Plain English (a sadly neglected
language in the arena of business and computers) "the cloud" means
"all my stuff on somebody else's computer", and in some cases only
accessible through a paid subscription, which presumably lapses when I
fall off my perch making it impossible for my successors to retrieve
it. No thanks.

Rod.

On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 11:31:12 +0000, Roderick Stewart
wrote in


Smart devices capable of integrating with the cloud
drive the future.

Not my future if I can avoid it. In Plain English (a sadly neglected
language in the arena of business and computers) "the cloud" means
"all my stuff on somebody else's computer", and in some cases only
accessible through a paid subscription, which presumably lapses when I
fall off my perch making it impossible for my successors to retrieve
it. No thanks.

+1 on that.
--
Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers
and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one.
Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those
newspapers delivered to your door every morning.

Blue wrote:
"...winston‫" wrote:
Char Jackson wrote:
I haven't seen this posted here, although I may have missed it. It's an
interesting read.

The most important lines(2 paragraphs) in WL's write-up...
"In summary, the new Windows team isn’t just mobile-savvy — by and
large, they’re mobile veterans. There’s a bit of old-fashioned Windows
depth, but Phone and Xbox dominate. That’s a very important point to
remember when you look at Windows’ future.

I also note in passing that Satya Nadella, the new Microsoft CEO, was in
charge of Bing less than three years ago. So the new heavy hitters know
both mobile and the cloud — arguably two of the blind spots among their
predecessors."


i.e. If waiting for Windows to go backward and look like XP, it ain't
going to happen. Smart devices capable of integrating with the cloud
drive the future. Look east...as the infrastructure improves....there
are at least 3 times more potential users than all Windows systems in
existence today.



Those "potential users" are mostly very poor. If you think
China/India/Vietnam, et al wants to give their workers rights like a
living wage, you're very naive.

Whether the cloud will be successful remains to be seen. As we all know
the "cloud" is a hard drive on some company's a server. Hard drives die
and after Snowden's revelations about NSA, some paranoia will keep many
away from trusting someone else's hard drive. Personally, one of the
first things I do after installing Win 8 is disable OneDrive.


Ah....you underestimate the power of time. More than half (62%) of the
world's population isn't going to stand still. Disposable income used
for communication devices capable of online storage will increase. In
case you missed it, it started more than a decade ago. Even at its now
current 6-7% GDP growth rate (a reduction from the past) it will
continue to be the target market.

OneDrive ? Not even the tip of the iceberg. Look below the surface
where the view isn't as narrow.

--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps