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  #151  
Old July 5th 20, 11:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Micky
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 05 Jul 2020 15:05:42 -0400, Pat
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Jul 2020 09:59:04 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 19 Jun 2020 09:54:41 -0400,
"Mayayana" wrote:

"Wade Garrett" wrote

| If you buy one that prevents you from posting on usenet anymore, I bet a
| number of the folks in the news groups you regularly pollute would
| gladly help pay for it ;-)

I'm guessing they won't have to. Micky seems to
be more than happy to pay for an expensive gaming
PC if that might make it easier for him to avoid paying
attention to what he's doing.

I want to get 16gigs ram and the possibility of adding more later, so
does that mean I want a gaming computer? I'd like a fast cpu too, I
think.

I'm willing to spend 1000 if I have to. (I haven't bought a new
computer since my PCJr.)

But this one refurbished for only 420 or 442 seems pretty good. It was
recommended here by Johnny who has one.
https://www.newegg.com/hp-prodesk-60...scrollFullInfo

But I thought I read here that HP was to be avoided. Anyone think
that's true?

TIA


Like others, I have had good luck with HP. My cuurent PC is very
similar to that one. I like i5's because they use less power (and
therefore run cooler) than i7's and my computer is on 24/7.

My worry is the word "refurbished". If it was returned because
someone didn't know how to use it - no problem. If it was returned
because it had a very obvious hard failure - no problem. But if it
was returned because it had an intermittent problem - you are buying
someone else's infuriating intermittent problem just to save few
bucks. I did that once and spent a lot of time chasing down a bad
part. Once fixed, it was fine, but I swore I would never buy another
reburbished PC unless I could find out why it was returned.


I see your points about refurbiished, and the one above isn't the only
refurbished one I looked at.

But the one above is rather interesting. It seems like it's pretty
old**, that maybe the company that used it swapped a whole bunch out for
something newer, but that is strange too. It's an i5 that runs at
3.2G.. would a new one be much faster? And it has 16Gig RAM (some sold
elsewhere have 8gig and some 64gig (at least now.) Maybe they replaced
one or two hdd's, one with the SSD and one with a bigger HDD So maybe
it was working fine after several years of use when replaced by the
corporate owners.

**It has PS2 ports for the mouse and keyboard, and it has a serial port
(a male 9-pin port.) Neither of those have been seen for years, right?
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  #152  
Old July 5th 20, 11:17 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Sun, 05 Jul 2020 18:04:54 -0400
micky wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 05 Jul 2020 15:05:42 -0400, Pat
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Jul 2020 09:59:04 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 19 Jun 2020 09:54:41 -0400,
"Mayayana" wrote:

"Wade Garrett" wrote

| If you buy one that prevents you from posting on usenet anymore,
I bet a | number of the folks in the news groups you regularly
pollute would | gladly help pay for it ;-)

I'm guessing they won't have to. Micky seems to
be more than happy to pay for an expensive gaming
PC if that might make it easier for him to avoid paying
attention to what he's doing.

I want to get 16gigs ram and the possibility of adding more later,
so does that mean I want a gaming computer? I'd like a fast cpu
too, I think.

I'm willing to spend 1000 if I have to. (I haven't bought a new
computer since my PCJr.)

But this one refurbished for only 420 or 442 seems pretty good. It
was recommended here by Johnny who has one.
https://www.newegg.com/hp-prodesk-60...scrollFullInfo

But I thought I read here that HP was to be avoided. Anyone think
that's true?

TIA


Like others, I have had good luck with HP. My cuurent PC is very
similar to that one. I like i5's because they use less power (and
therefore run cooler) than i7's and my computer is on 24/7.

My worry is the word "refurbished". If it was returned because
someone didn't know how to use it - no problem. If it was returned
because it had a very obvious hard failure - no problem. But if it
was returned because it had an intermittent problem - you are buying
someone else's infuriating intermittent problem just to save few
bucks. I did that once and spent a lot of time chasing down a bad
part. Once fixed, it was fine, but I swore I would never buy another
reburbished PC unless I could find out why it was returned.


I see your points about refurbiished, and the one above isn't the only
refurbished one I looked at.

But the one above is rather interesting. It seems like it's pretty
old**, that maybe the company that used it swapped a whole bunch out
for something newer, but that is strange too. It's an i5 that runs
at 3.2G.. would a new one be much faster? And it has 16Gig RAM (some
sold elsewhere have 8gig and some 64gig (at least now.) Maybe they
replaced one or two hdd's, one with the SSD and one with a bigger HDD
So maybe it was working fine after several years of use when
replaced by the corporate owners.

**It has PS2 ports for the mouse and keyboard, and it has a serial
port (a male 9-pin port.) Neither of those have been seen for years,
right?


It came out in 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_business_desktops

  #153  
Old July 5th 20, 11:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 05 Jul 2020 15:05:42 -0400, Pat
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Jul 2020 09:59:04 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 19 Jun 2020 09:54:41 -0400,
"Mayayana" wrote:

"Wade Garrett" wrote

| If you buy one that prevents you from posting on usenet anymore, I bet a
| number of the folks in the news groups you regularly pollute would
| gladly help pay for it ;-)

I'm guessing they won't have to. Micky seems to
be more than happy to pay for an expensive gaming
PC if that might make it easier for him to avoid paying
attention to what he's doing.

I want to get 16gigs ram and the possibility of adding more later, so
does that mean I want a gaming computer? I'd like a fast cpu too, I
think.

I'm willing to spend 1000 if I have to. (I haven't bought a new
computer since my PCJr.)

But this one refurbished for only 420 or 442 seems pretty good. It was
recommended here by Johnny who has one.
https://www.newegg.com/hp-prodesk-60...scrollFullInfo

But I thought I read here that HP was to be avoided. Anyone think
that's true?

TIA

Like others, I have had good luck with HP. My cuurent PC is very
similar to that one. I like i5's because they use less power (and
therefore run cooler) than i7's and my computer is on 24/7.

My worry is the word "refurbished". If it was returned because
someone didn't know how to use it - no problem. If it was returned
because it had a very obvious hard failure - no problem. But if it
was returned because it had an intermittent problem - you are buying
someone else's infuriating intermittent problem just to save few
bucks. I did that once and spent a lot of time chasing down a bad
part. Once fixed, it was fine, but I swore I would never buy another
reburbished PC unless I could find out why it was returned.


I see your points about refurbiished, and the one above isn't the only
refurbished one I looked at.

But the one above is rather interesting. It seems like it's pretty
old**, that maybe the company that used it swapped a whole bunch out for
something newer, but that is strange too. It's an i5 that runs at
3.2G.. would a new one be much faster? And it has 16Gig RAM (some sold
elsewhere have 8gig and some 64gig (at least now.) Maybe they replaced
one or two hdd's, one with the SSD and one with a bigger HDD So maybe
it was working fine after several years of use when replaced by the
corporate owners.

**It has PS2 ports for the mouse and keyboard, and it has a serial port
(a male 9-pin port.) Neither of those have been seen for years, right?


A standard corporate lease cycle is three years.

Those machines have to go somewhere.

Machines may still have serial ports. My newest machine has a
2x5 pin header with the serial port on it. I had to make a
cable so I could use it. The cable pokes out of an open
slot hole in the back. I actually have two cables poking out
the back. Serial port is one cable. There is also a USB2 bracket.
Now, there are plenty of USB2 ports in the I/O plate area,
but I plug my BLuetooth dongle into the cabled one, and it allows
arranging the BT for "line of sight" with other devices.

Intel has many whizzy announcements, but product availability is
limited. They'd sooner use the fab to make a thousand dollar part
for the server industry, than make a three hundred dollar part
for your desktop.

The first is a slightly older processor. The other two are fresh releases.

9600K $200 6 cores 9MB cache 3.7GHz full 4.6GHz Turbo (might be on one core) 14nm geom

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...-4-60-ghz.html

10600K $295 6 cores 12MB cache 3.8Ghz full 4.8Ghz Turbo 14nm geometry

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...-4-80-ghz.html

10700K $410 8 cores 16MB cache 3.8GHz full 5.1Ghz Turbo 14nm geometry

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...-5-10-ghz.html

That's to give you some idea what the mainstream is like.

These are the kinds of chips with two channels, four slots,
and 4*32GB as the max memory. Equipping with 2*8GB of
"fast" memory would be a semi-standard thing to do. The
32GB modules might not be mainstream enough (adder on price).

Paul
  #154  
Old July 6th 20, 01:16 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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  #155  
Old July 6th 20, 02:20 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Micky
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 05 Jul 2020 18:56:58 -0400, Paul
wrote:

micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 05 Jul 2020 15:05:42 -0400, Pat
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Jul 2020 09:59:04 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 19 Jun 2020 09:54:41 -0400,
"Mayayana" wrote:

"Wade Garrett" wrote

| If you buy one that prevents you from posting on usenet anymore, I bet a
| number of the folks in the news groups you regularly pollute would
| gladly help pay for it ;-)

I'm guessing they won't have to. Micky seems to
be more than happy to pay for an expensive gaming
PC if that might make it easier for him to avoid paying
attention to what he's doing.

I want to get 16gigs ram and the possibility of adding more later, so
does that mean I want a gaming computer? I'd like a fast cpu too, I
think.

I'm willing to spend 1000 if I have to. (I haven't bought a new
computer since my PCJr.)

But this one refurbished for only 420 or 442 seems pretty good. It was
recommended here by Johnny who has one.
https://www.newegg.com/hp-prodesk-60...scrollFullInfo

But I thought I read here that HP was to be avoided. Anyone think
that's true?

TIA
Like others, I have had good luck with HP. My cuurent PC is very
similar to that one. I like i5's because they use less power (and
therefore run cooler) than i7's and my computer is on 24/7.

My worry is the word "refurbished". If it was returned because
someone didn't know how to use it - no problem. If it was returned
because it had a very obvious hard failure - no problem. But if it
was returned because it had an intermittent problem - you are buying
someone else's infuriating intermittent problem just to save few
bucks. I did that once and spent a lot of time chasing down a bad
part. Once fixed, it was fine, but I swore I would never buy another
reburbished PC unless I could find out why it was returned.


I see your points about refurbiished, and the one above isn't the only
refurbished one I looked at.

But the one above is rather interesting. It seems like it's pretty
old**, that maybe the company that used it swapped a whole bunch out for
something newer, but that is strange too. It's an i5 that runs at
3.2G.. would a new one be much faster? And it has 16Gig RAM (some sold
elsewhere have 8gig and some 64gig (at least now.) Maybe they replaced
one or two hdd's, one with the SSD and one with a bigger HDD So maybe
it was working fine after several years of use when replaced by the
corporate owners.

**It has PS2 ports for the mouse and keyboard, and it has a serial port
(a male 9-pin port.) Neither of those have been seen for years, right?


A standard corporate lease cycle is three years.

Those machines have to go somewhere.

Machines may still have serial ports. My newest machine has a
2x5 pin header with the serial port on it. I had to make a
cable so I could use it. The cable pokes out of an open
slot hole in the back. I actually have two cables poking out
the back. Serial port is one cable. There is also a USB2 bracket.
Now, there are plenty of USB2 ports in the I/O plate area,
but I plug my BLuetooth dongle into the cabled one, and it allows
arranging the BT for "line of sight" with other devices.

Intel has many whizzy announcements, but product availability is
limited. They'd sooner use the fab to make a thousand dollar part
for the server industry, than make a three hundred dollar part
for your desktop.

The first is a slightly older processor. The other two are fresh releases.

9600K $200 6 cores 9MB cache 3.7GHz full 4.6GHz Turbo (might be on one core) 14nm geom

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...-4-60-ghz.html

10600K $295 6 cores 12MB cache 3.8Ghz full 4.8Ghz Turbo 14nm geometry

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...-4-80-ghz.html

10700K $410 8 cores 16MB cache 3.8GHz full 5.1Ghz Turbo 14nm geometry

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...-5-10-ghz.html

That's to give you some idea what the mainstream is like.

These are the kinds of chips with two channels, four slots,
and 4*32GB as the max memory. Equipping with 2*8GB of
"fast" memory would be a semi-standard thing to do. The
32GB modules might not be mainstream enough (adder on price).

Paul


Thank you both.

  #156  
Old August 11th 20, 10:36 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Micky
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 19 Jun 2020 10:13:34 -0500, Johnny
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 11:04:21 -0400
Big Al wrote:

On 6/19/20 8:53 AM, this is what Johnny wrote:
I recommend this one:

https://www.newegg.com/hp-prodesk-60...scrollFullInfo


It just doesn't say what USB type they are. 2/3/3.1/3c ??
Nor is there a SD card reader.


I have that same computer. All it says is the USB slots are 3.0. Four
on the back and two on the front. There are also two USB 2.0 on the
front, and two on the back.


Isnt' the plastic part in the middle of USB3 blue, and USB2 black?
Sometimes you can tell one from the other in the picture, in the
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  #157  
Old August 11th 20, 10:37 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Micky
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 19 Jun 2020 09:54:41 -0400,
"Mayayana" wrote:

"Wade Garrett" wrote

| If you buy one that prevents you from posting on usenet anymore, I bet a
| number of the folks in the news groups you regularly pollute would
| gladly help pay for it ;-)

I'm guessing they won't have to. Micky seems to
be more than happy to pay for an expensive gaming
PC if that might make it easier for him to avoid paying
attention to what he's doing.


You bet. That's what money is for.
  #158  
Old August 11th 20, 10:39 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Micky
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 19 Jun 2020 08:19:36 -0500, Char
Jackson wrote:

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 06:44:47 -0400, micky
wrote:

Well, the computer has continued to crash, mostly with the same 4
problems. Other times, it's frozen.

So I need a new one. I haven't had a new one since the PCJr.

1) This time I want 16 gigs of RAM, or do I want even more?????

The reason for more than 8 gigs is that I tend to open way too many FF
tabs and the computer slows and eventually FF stops. Won't more RAM
make that take a lot longer to happen?


On my last build, I went from 16GB, where I had the problem with Firefox
that you're describing, to 64GB, where I haven't yet had that problem. So I
would say yes, more RAM will help Firefox behave.


Good to hear. It seemed likely that more RAM would help, but
confirmation is very comforting.

I've decided to get 16G in a computer than will hold 64G if need be, or
at least 32G

I'm not saying you need 64GB, of course. I only have that much because I
need to run multiple VMs simultaneously.


Understood.
  #159  
Old August 11th 20, 11:10 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Micky
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 20 Jun 2020 08:09:36 -0400,
"Mayayana" wrote:

"micky" wrote

| If you precisely google a store, so that it comes up first, a box on the
| right gives interesting info about the store, like average number of
| people there any specific hour of the week, and the "actual" number
| there this hour, if they're open then. (based on cell phones)
|
| For Microcenter it had two interesting lines:
|
| In-store shopping
| In-store pickup
|
| Wait, aren't those the normal methods? Nothing changed for the virus.
| Even though they have a detailed online catalog and really big shopping
| carts so they could bring it out to you.
|
| Maybe I could negotiate it in advance. Or maybe somoene checked the
| wrong boxes.

Where I live they nearly closed for the virus. Few
people allowed in, you had to know what you wanted,
jumping through hoops to pay cash. I worry the virus
will be used as an excuse to start refusing cash.

Now it's more relaxed. No line when I was there.
Though a man at the door wanted to spray my gloves
with disinfectant. (I'm often wearing winter gloves
into stores, that I keep in my truck. He was confused
by the new variable in his protocol. I took off a glove
so that he could complete his mission without a panic
attack or blown circuit.


LOL


The prices are interesting, though. I recently bought
some shirts and shorts at Kohls, after retail reopened.
They were half off. But in Best Buy, Staples and
Microcenter I didn't see any notable good deals. So
there doesn't seem to be much in the way of "welcome
back" sales.


  #160  
Old August 11th 20, 11:22 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 21/06/2020 17.41, Mayayana wrote:
"Yousuf Khan" wrote

| FF seems to use a container approach nowadays, that's one of the reasons
| why all of the old FF add-ons no longer work, because they can't access
| information between tabs anymore.

Yes, but I suspect that hads to do with structure
rather than processes. Similarly, when IE went to tabs,
an extra step was added to access the document object
of a specific tab. The parent window became an "MDI",
multiple document interface.

| The threads and processes are system
| threads and processes, but those can be used for anything by FF, they
| don't necessarily reflect the number of tabs/windows open. So the
| containers seem to offer a level of isolation that goes beyond what the
| OS offers through the threads, but probably not as much isolation as
| what the OS offers through the processes.

Threads share libraries and memory space. Processes
are separate. So there's no stability advantage to
multiple tabs that are not multiple processes. And it's
hard to see a stability advantage when Micky loses 40 tabs
but doesn't lose the mothership. I guess they can
technically claim FF didn't crash, but actually it did.


If you have 8 processes and one dies, they other 7 keep running, each
with 40 tabs.

When I see a process named "Web content" running at 100% cpu for a long
time, I kill it. Then restart the tabs I actually use.


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  #161  
Old August 11th 20, 04:55 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 19 Jun 2020 09:54:41 -0400,
"Mayayana" wrote:

"Wade Garrett" wrote

| If you buy one that prevents you from posting on usenet anymore, I bet a
| number of the folks in the news groups you regularly pollute would
| gladly help pay for it ;-)

I'm guessing they won't have to. Micky seems to
be more than happy to pay for an expensive gaming
PC if that might make it easier for him to avoid paying
attention to what he's doing.


You bet. That's what money is for.


If you don't want to be using a screwdriver your own self,
there is likely to be an independent chain computer store
that will do a build for you.

You just tell the guy what you want, and then your wants
can be translated into real things.

If you say "me wants five DVD-RW drives in PC",
then he is tasked with finding the machine with that
many 5.25" bays. Maybe he pulls an Inwin case out of
the back of the store.

You tell him you're a gamer or you're not a gamer.

You're a home theater person, and it would be
nice if the machine could play Bluray movies at 4K.

Based on those descriptions, they can choose to not
use a video card (use Intel Quicksync in Intel GPU
for doing some of those functions). The Intel stuff
is good for "The SIMS", but not for "Crysis".

So you can turn the experience into a shopping trip,
and with your wad of money, get whatever your heart
desires. If you want 128GB of RAM, you can have it,
but the guy is going to ask you a lot of questions
about that, because that request would be "abnormal" :-)
If you tell him you keep four hundred Firefox tabs
open, he'll understand.

I prefer that approach, to the approach of buying a
Gamer PC just to get one or two whizzy features,
but then regretting that the computer case has
flame decals on the side. There is no limit to how
low the computer industry will stoop.

https://www.computing.co.uk/w-images...LR-580x334.jpg

If that one doesn't make it as a computer case, it
doubles as a lunch-box you can take to work.

My first computer was acquired that way. It was built
for me for $100 and they did a good job. Today, I kept
the computer case, but all the innards were replaced.
The machine I'm typing on, uses the old computer case.
One of the reasons, is it turns out the computer case
has a removable motherboard tray. Which was great for
doing upgrades. The machine might be on its fourth
motherboard, I've lost track.

Paul
  #162  
Old August 11th 20, 05:14 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 8/11/2020 8:55 AM, Paul wrote:

If you don't want to be using a screwdriver your own self,
there is likely to be an independent chain computer store
that will do a build for you.



Or sometimes a local individual.



You just tell the guy what you want, and then your wants
can be translated into real things.

If you say "me wants five DVD-RW drives in PC",
then he is tasked with finding the machine with that
many 5.25" bays. Maybe he pulls an Inwin case out of
the back of the store.

You tell him you're a gamer or you're not a gamer.

You're a home theater person, and it would be
nice if the machine could play Bluray movies at 4K.

Based on those descriptions, they can choose to not
use a video card (use Intel Quicksync in Intel GPU
for doing some of those functions). The Intel stuff
is good for "The SIMS", but not for "Crysis".

So you can turn the experience into a shopping trip,
and with your wad of money, get whatever your heart
desires. If you want 128GB of RAM, you can have it,
but the guy is going to ask you a lot of questions
about that, because that request would be "abnormal" :-)
If you tell him you keep four hundred Firefox tabs
open, he'll understand.

I prefer that approach, to the approach of buying a
Gamer PC just to get one or two whizzy features,



I also prefer that approach. I used to sometimes build a computer
myself, but I prefer to have someone do it for me, because although the
building is easy, if building it results in a problem, having to
troubleshoot it yourself can be hard. One component's manufacturer can
blame the manufacturer of a second component and the manufactuer of the
second component can blame the manufacturer of the first.


To me, it's worth the small cost of paying someone else to do it.



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  #163  
Old August 11th 20, 05:20 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2020-08-11 10:55 a.m., Paul wrote:
micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 19 Jun 2020 09:54:41 -0400,
"Mayayana" wrote:

"Wade Garrett" wrote

| If you buy one that prevents you from posting on usenet anymore, I
bet a
| number of the folks in the news groups you regularly pollute would
| gladly help pay for it ;-)

I'm guessing they won't have to. Micky seems to
be more than happy to pay for an expensive gaming
PC if that might make it easier for him to avoid paying
attention to what he's doing.


You bet.Â* That's what money is for.


If you don't want to be using a screwdriver your own self,
there is likely to be an independent chain computer store
that will do a build for you.

You just tell the guy what you want, and then your wants
can be translated into real things.

If you say "me wants five DVD-RW drives in PC",
then he is tasked with finding the machine with that
many 5.25" bays. Maybe he pulls an Inwin case out of
the back of the store.

You tell him you're a gamer or you're not a gamer.

You're a home theater person, and it would be
nice if the machine could play Bluray movies at 4K.

Based on those descriptions, they can choose to not
use a video card (use Intel Quicksync in Intel GPU
for doing some of those functions). The Intel stuff
is good for "The SIMS", but not for "Crysis".

So you can turn the experience into a shopping trip,
and with your wad of money, get whatever your heart
desires. If you want 128GB of RAM, you can have it,
but the guy is going to ask you a lot of questions
about that, because that request would be "abnormal" :-)
If you tell him you keep four hundred Firefox tabs
open, he'll understand.

I prefer that approach, to the approach of buying a
Gamer PC just to get one or two whizzy features,
but then regretting that the computer case has
flame decals on the side. There is no limit to how
low the computer industry will stoop.

https://www.computing.co.uk/w-images...LR-580x334.jpg


If that one doesn't make it as a computer case, it
doubles as a lunch-box you can take to work.

My first computer was acquired that way. It was built
for me for $100 and they did a good job. Today, I kept
the computer case, but all the innards were replaced.
The machine I'm typing on, uses the old computer case.
One of the reasons, is it turns out the computer case
has a removable motherboard tray. Which was great for
doing upgrades. The machine might be on its fourth
motherboard, I've lost track.

Â*Â* Paul


One of my cases years ago was like that, you could unplug the drive and
power supply cables, remove 2 screws and slide out the motherboard tray
complete with the back slots, Video and sound cards as a complete
assembly, it was a joy to work on, I believe it was a Lian Li box.

Rene

 




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