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  #31  
Old August 23rd 20, 09:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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Default How to swap OK and Cancel in dialog boxes?

On Aug 23, 2020 at 1:47:42 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey""
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:42:48 +0100, Snit
wrote:

On Aug 23, 2020 at 1:38:47 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey""
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:00:17 +0100, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 8/23/20 9:33 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I have a major problem with Windows dialog boxes. Everything in my life
is affirmative action to the right (stereo volume control, car
accelerator, etc). Linux and Mac have OK on the right, that's fine.
Even though I virtually never use those two OSes, non-computer things in
life have ingrained it into my head that yes is on the right and no is
on the left. Almost 50% of the time I subconsciously click the wrong
button in a Windows dialog box because I expect OK to be on the right.
"Do you want to save this?" "Yes, oh no, I pressed cancel!"

There must be some utility I can use to swap these buttons over?

I never noticed this problem until someone else mentioned it. I would
click on the appropriate box like "OK" not just some location within the
window.

Do you glance down at your car pedals each time to the labels you wrote on
them saying "brake" and "gas"?


Hard to do when still checking that turning the steering wheel clockwise
will
lead to me turning right... it is randomly decided each time I start the
car.


That reminds me of when I was reversing my car out of a very tight spot in a
small local garage. Other people had placed their cars in the way of the
exit. A mechanic said one of those things that gets on my nerves: "left hand
down". WTF does that mean? Especially when I'm looking over my shoulder
with only my right hand on the wheel! Just say "left" or "right". The car
will go the same way no matter which way it's facing! A clockwise turn on
the wheel makes it go right, in either gear!!



Teaching my oldest child to drive... while it is obvious to those of us with
experience, when you are new going in reverse confuses people.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.


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  #32  
Old August 23rd 20, 09:55 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Aug 23, 2020 at 1:43:58 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey""
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 20:27:28 +0100, Snit
wrote:

Wolffan wrote:
On 23 Aug 2020, Commander Kinsey wrote
(in article op.0ps315mnwdg98l@glass):

I have a major problem with Windows dialog boxes. Everything in my life is
affirmative action to the right (stereo volume control, car accelerator,
etc). Linux and Mac have OK on the right, that's fine. Even though I
virtually never use those two OSes, non-computer things in life have
ingrained it into my head that yes is on the right and no is on the left.
Almost 50% of the time I subconsciously click the wrong button in a Windows
dialog box because I expect OK to be on the right. "Do you want to save
this?" "Yes, oh no, I pressed cancel!"

There must be some utility I can use to swap these buttons over?

I suspect that you won=E2=80=99t want to hear it, but the default on Macs
is to
have OK on the right... And, back in the days of the Resource Editor, it was
possible, though very much advised against, to dig up ResEdit
(that=E2=80=99s
ResEdit,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ResEdit not RegEdit) and make changes
to the dialogs. I used to use ResEdit to do things like add command-key
combinations, change the names of menus, change the colours of menus, and
generally play around inside apps and system files, though only on a copy.
Many was the time that what seemed like a minor change (setting the
Finder=E2=80=99s menus to be black with white text, for example) proved to
be a
Very Bad Idea.


I used it some. Still have keyboard layouts I made with it and they still
work on macOS.


Hasn't it always been called "MacOS"?


Nope. In the Classic days it was System 1, System 2, System 3, System 4,
Software System 5, Software System 6, Software System 7/Mac OS 7, Mac OS 8,
Mac OS 9... then Mac OS X, then OS X, then macOS. And somewhere in there the
older Mac was called "Classic" as it ran on the newer one.

All very simple, of course.



--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.


  #33  
Old August 23rd 20, 10:06 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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Default How to swap OK and Cancel in dialog boxes?

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:55:02 +0100, Snit wrote:

On Aug 23, 2020 at 1:43:58 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey""
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 20:27:28 +0100, Snit
wrote:

Wolffan wrote:
On 23 Aug 2020, Commander Kinsey wrote
(in article op.0ps315mnwdg98l@glass):

I have a major problem with Windows dialog boxes. Everything in my life is
affirmative action to the right (stereo volume control, car accelerator,
etc). Linux and Mac have OK on the right, that's fine. Even though I
virtually never use those two OSes, non-computer things in life have
ingrained it into my head that yes is on the right and no is on the left.
Almost 50% of the time I subconsciously click the wrong button in a Windows
dialog box because I expect OK to be on the right. "Do you want to save
this?" "Yes, oh no, I pressed cancel!"

There must be some utility I can use to swap these buttons over?

I suspect that you won=E2=80=99t want to hear it, but the default on Macs
is to
have OK on the right... And, back in the days of the Resource Editor, it was
possible, though very much advised against, to dig up ResEdit
(that=E2=80=99s
ResEdit,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ResEdit not RegEdit) and make changes
to the dialogs. I used to use ResEdit to do things like add command-key
combinations, change the names of menus, change the colours of menus, and
generally play around inside apps and system files, though only on a copy.
Many was the time that what seemed like a minor change (setting the
Finder=E2=80=99s menus to be black with white text, for example) proved to
be a
Very Bad Idea.

I used it some. Still have keyboard layouts I made with it and they still
work on macOS.


Hasn't it always been called "MacOS"?


Nope. In the Classic days it was System 1, System 2, System 3, System 4,
Software System 5, Software System 6, Software System 7/Mac OS 7, Mac OS 8,
Mac OS 9... then Mac OS X, then OS X, then macOS. And somewhere in there the
older Mac was called "Classic" as it ran on the newer one.

All very simple, of course.


Well better than 1,2,3,95 anyway.

But now Apple have started this bull**** with animals. How can anyone remember whether a Tiger or a Leopard is better?
  #34  
Old August 23rd 20, 10:08 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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Default How to swap OK and Cancel in dialog boxes?

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:51:05 +0100, Snit wrote:

On Aug 23, 2020 at 1:47:42 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey""
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:42:48 +0100, Snit
wrote:

On Aug 23, 2020 at 1:38:47 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey""
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:00:17 +0100, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 8/23/20 9:33 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I have a major problem with Windows dialog boxes. Everything in my life
is affirmative action to the right (stereo volume control, car
accelerator, etc). Linux and Mac have OK on the right, that's fine.
Even though I virtually never use those two OSes, non-computer things in
life have ingrained it into my head that yes is on the right and no is
on the left. Almost 50% of the time I subconsciously click the wrong
button in a Windows dialog box because I expect OK to be on the right.
"Do you want to save this?" "Yes, oh no, I pressed cancel!"

There must be some utility I can use to swap these buttons over?

I never noticed this problem until someone else mentioned it. I would
click on the appropriate box like "OK" not just some location within the
window.

Do you glance down at your car pedals each time to the labels you wrote on
them saying "brake" and "gas"?

Hard to do when still checking that turning the steering wheel clockwise
will
lead to me turning right... it is randomly decided each time I start the
car.


That reminds me of when I was reversing my car out of a very tight spot in a
small local garage. Other people had placed their cars in the way of the
exit. A mechanic said one of those things that gets on my nerves: "left hand
down". WTF does that mean? Especially when I'm looking over my shoulder
with only my right hand on the wheel! Just say "left" or "right". The car
will go the same way no matter which way it's facing! A clockwise turn on
the wheel makes it go right, in either gear!!



Teaching my oldest child to drive... while it is obvious to those of us with
experience, when you are new going in reverse confuses people.


Going in reverse is THE SAME. The wheel goes the same way to make the car go to the right in either direction. How can anyone possibly get that wrong?

The only thing incompetants can get wrong is reversing a trailer, as you're steering the car not the trailer.
  #35  
Old August 23rd 20, 10:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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Default How to swap OK and Cancel in dialog boxes?

In article , Snit
wrote:

I suspect that you won1t want to hear it, but the default on Macs is
to
have OK on the right... And, back in the days of the Resource Editor,
it
was
possible, though very much advised against, to dig up ResEdit (that1s
ResEdit,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ResEdit not RegEdit) and make
changes
to the dialogs. I used to use ResEdit to do things like add
command-key
combinations, change the names of menus, change the colours of menus,
and
generally play around inside apps and system files, though only on a
copy.
Many was the time that what seemed like a minor change (setting the
Finder1s menus to be black with white text, for example) proved to be
a
Very Bad Idea.

actually, it was widely done without any adverse effect, unless the app
was poorly written and made assumptions it should not have made.

In which case it had bad effects.


rearranging dialogue layouts or changing menu colours had no effect
whatsoever, other than aesthetics. the app had no clue it even
happened.


I am in reference to your comment about applications. Sorry you missed that.


i didn't miss a thing, nor is modifying resources restricted to apps.

i only mentioned the possibility because nothing is 100% perfect.

theoretically, an app could do something very stupid, however, it's not
anything anyone should worry about. in the unlikely event something
does go wrong, take it as a hint to stop using the app because there
are probably a lot of other problems with the app.


I cannot think of any great issues I had with it...


exactly the point, yet you argue anyway.

though I do know I ran
into some problems. Also just played to fiddle with apps in silly ways.


that would almost certainly have been user error versus an issue with
the app.

stop talking about things you know nothing about.


When was the last day you had in less than 50% of your posts such comments
where you make assumptions about what others do and do not know just to try to
feel better about yourself?

This is not a rhetorical question -- can you find ANY day like that? I suspect
not.


i'm not assuming your lack of knowledge about mac app development.

it's *very* clear that it's basically zero.

Unlike using Preference files to open apps which seemed to work pretty
much
universally.


'seemed to work pretty much' is a nice bunch of weasel words.


I already showed it worked with MS Word:


that's only *one* app and not in any way representative of all mac apps.

as i explained to you, an app must special case the document(s) it gets
in an open event and take specific action if it's a preference file,
and that's assuming only one document is sent.

what should it do if it gets 5 documents, three of which are preference
files and two of which are user documents?
  #36  
Old August 23rd 20, 10:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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In article op.0ptl89qwwdg98l@glass, Commander Kinsey
wrote:


But now Apple have started this bull**** with animals. How can anyone remember
whether a Tiger or a Leopard is better?


cat names have not been used since 2012. they now use california
landmarks.

some of the names are paired, such as leopard & snow leopard, lion &
mountain lion, yosemite & el capitan, sierra & high sierra.

however, they always include a numerical version.
  #37  
Old August 23rd 20, 10:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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In article , Snit
wrote:


Hasn't it always been called "MacOS"?


Nope. In the Classic days it was System 1, System 2, System 3, System 4,
Software System 5, Software System 6, Software System 7/Mac OS 7, Mac OS 8,
Mac OS 9... then Mac OS X, then OS X, then macOS.


nobody called it 'software system'.

it was called system 0.9 through 7.5.5, macos 7.6 through 9.2.2, then
mac os x and its variants with the associated cat & landmark names.

And somewhere in there the
older Mac was called "Classic" as it ran on the newer one.


nope. that's not why, nor is that even correct.

classic is the environment in which classic mac os (specifically 9.x)
could run. classic mac os is pre-mac os x.
  #38  
Old August 23rd 20, 10:20 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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Default How to swap OK and Cancel in dialog boxes?

In article , Snit
wrote:


That reminds me of when I was reversing my car out of a very tight spot in a
small local garage. Other people had placed their cars in the way of the
exit. A mechanic said one of those things that gets on my nerves: "left
hand
down". WTF does that mean? Especially when I'm looking over my shoulder
with only my right hand on the wheel! Just say "left" or "right". The car
will go the same way no matter which way it's facing! A clockwise turn on
the wheel makes it go right, in either gear!!



Teaching my oldest child to drive... while it is obvious to those of us with
experience, when you are new going in reverse confuses people.


anyone confused when backing up should not be driving.
  #39  
Old August 23rd 20, 10:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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Default How to swap OK and Cancel in dialog boxes?

On Aug 23, 2020 at 2:15:09 PM MST, "nospam" wrote:

In article , Snit
wrote:


Hasn't it always been called "MacOS"?


Nope. In the Classic days it was System 1, System 2, System 3, System 4,
Software System 5, Software System 6, Software System 7/Mac OS 7, Mac OS 8,
Mac OS 9... then Mac OS X, then OS X, then macOS.


nobody called it 'software system'.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_6
-----
System 6 (also referred to as System Software 6) ...
-----

Now you know! But, sure, I did not list both for that version... which only
makes it less confusing, eh?


it was called system 0.9 through 7.5.5, macos 7.6 through 9.2.2, then
mac os x and its variants with the associated cat & landmark names.

And somewhere in there the
older Mac was called "Classic" as it ran on the newer one.


nope.


Yes. Apple called it "Classic" when it run on OS X.

....

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.


  #40  
Old August 23rd 20, 10:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Aug 23, 2020 at 2:15:06 PM MST, "nospam" wrote:

In article , Snit
wrote:

I suspect that you won1t want to hear it, but the default on Macs is
to
have OK on the right... And, back in the days of the Resource Editor,
it
was
possible, though very much advised against, to dig up ResEdit (that1s
ResEdit,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ResEdit not RegEdit) and make
changes
to the dialogs. I used to use ResEdit to do things like add
command-key
combinations, change the names of menus, change the colours of menus,
and
generally play around inside apps and system files, though only on a
copy.
Many was the time that what seemed like a minor change (setting the
Finder1s menus to be black with white text, for example) proved to be
a
Very Bad Idea.

actually, it was widely done without any adverse effect, unless the app
was poorly written and made assumptions it should not have made.

In which case it had bad effects.

rearranging dialogue layouts or changing menu colours had no effect
whatsoever, other than aesthetics. the app had no clue it even
happened.


I am in reference to your comment about applications. Sorry you missed that.


You had no relevant comment on this.

....

i only mentioned the possibility because nothing is 100% perfect.

theoretically, an app could do something very stupid, however, it's not
anything anyone should worry about. in the unlikely event something
does go wrong, take it as a hint to stop using the app because there
are probably a lot of other problems with the app.


I cannot think of any great issues I had with it...


You had no relevant comment on this. Not interested in your efforts to change
the topic to yourself.

....

though I do know I ran
into some problems. Also just played to fiddle with apps in silly ways.


that would almost certainly have been user error versus an issue with
the app.


Maybe. Maybe not. As you said it could be from poorly written programs.

stop talking about things you know nothing about.


When was the last day you had in less than 50% of your posts such comments
where you make assumptions about what others do and do not know just to try
to
feel better about yourself?

This is not a rhetorical question -- can you find ANY day like that? I
suspect
not.


You had no relevant comment on this. Not interested in your efforts to change
the topic to yourself.

Unlike using Preference files to open apps which seemed to work pretty
much
universally.

'seemed to work pretty much' is a nice bunch of weasel words.


I already showed it worked with MS Word:


that's only *one* app


Yes, MS Word is only one app. I am glad you understand this.

and not in any way representative of all mac apps.


What you snipped:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
https://youtu.be/IouS4iDvsOQ

Do you have an example of it NOT working? Made the video to show you what I
was talking about on Aug 17... you have yet to show ANY app where this
failed.

How long do you think it will take you to find one? If you do we can have a
discussion on tech and not on your need to put others down. I would prefer
that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

....

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.


  #41  
Old August 23rd 20, 10:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Aug 23, 2020 at 2:20:27 PM MST, "nospam" wrote:

In article , Snit
wrote:


That reminds me of when I was reversing my car out of a very tight spot
in a
small local garage. Other people had placed their cars in the way of the
exit. A mechanic said one of those things that gets on my nerves: "left
hand
down". WTF does that mean? Especially when I'm looking over my shoulder
with only my right hand on the wheel! Just say "left" or "right". The car
will go the same way no matter which way it's facing! A clockwise turn on
the wheel makes it go right, in either gear!!



Teaching my oldest child to drive... while it is obvious to those of us with
experience, when you are new going in reverse confuses people.


anyone confused when backing up should not be driving.


It is like the ol' people should not use computers until they know how to use
them. LOL!

My child is *LEARNNG* to drive. Seriously, how can you miss such simple
concepts? I will admit, though, you do have a gift!



--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.


  #42  
Old August 23rd 20, 10:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Aug 23, 2020 at 2:08:15 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey""
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:51:05 +0100, Snit
wrote:

On Aug 23, 2020 at 1:47:42 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey""
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:42:48 +0100, Snit
wrote:

On Aug 23, 2020 at 1:38:47 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey""
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:00:17 +0100, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 8/23/20 9:33 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I have a major problem with Windows dialog boxes. Everything in my life
is affirmative action to the right (stereo volume control, car
accelerator, etc). Linux and Mac have OK on the right, that's fine.
Even though I virtually never use those two OSes, non-computer things in
life have ingrained it into my head that yes is on the right and no is
on the left. Almost 50% of the time I subconsciously click the wrong
button in a Windows dialog box because I expect OK to be on the right.
"Do you want to save this?" "Yes, oh no, I pressed cancel!"

There must be some utility I can use to swap these buttons over?

I never noticed this problem until someone else mentioned it. I would
click on the appropriate box like "OK" not just some location within the
window.

Do you glance down at your car pedals each time to the labels you wrote on
them saying "brake" and "gas"?

Hard to do when still checking that turning the steering wheel clockwise
will
lead to me turning right... it is randomly decided each time I start the
car.


That reminds me of when I was reversing my car out of a very tight spot in a
small local garage. Other people had placed their cars in the way of the
exit. A mechanic said one of those things that gets on my nerves: "left
hand
down". WTF does that mean? Especially when I'm looking over my shoulder
with only my right hand on the wheel! Just say "left" or "right". The car
will go the same way no matter which way it's facing! A clockwise turn on
the wheel makes it go right, in either gear!!



Teaching my oldest child to drive... while it is obvious to those of us with
experience, when you are new going in reverse confuses people.


Going in reverse is THE SAME. The wheel goes the same way to make the car go
to the right in either direction. How can anyone possibly get that wrong?


Work with people just learning. You will see.

The only thing incompetants can get wrong is reversing a trailer, as you're
steering the car not the trailer.


I should include that in my lessons.


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.


  #43  
Old August 23rd 20, 10:36 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Aug 23, 2020 at 2:06:35 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey""
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:55:02 +0100, Snit
wrote:

On Aug 23, 2020 at 1:43:58 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey""
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 20:27:28 +0100, Snit
wrote:

Wolffan wrote:
On 23 Aug 2020, Commander Kinsey wrote
(in article op.0ps315mnwdg98l@glass):

I have a major problem with Windows dialog boxes. Everything in my life is
affirmative action to the right (stereo volume control, car accelerator,
etc). Linux and Mac have OK on the right, that's fine. Even though I
virtually never use those two OSes, non-computer things in life have
ingrained it into my head that yes is on the right and no is on the left.
Almost 50% of the time I subconsciously click the wrong button in a Windows
dialog box because I expect OK to be on the right. "Do you want to save
this?" "Yes, oh no, I pressed cancel!"

There must be some utility I can use to swap these buttons over?

I suspect that you won=E2=80=99t want to hear it, but the default on Macs
is to
have OK on the right... And, back in the days of the Resource Editor,
it was
possible, though very much advised against, to dig up ResEdit
(that=E2=80=99s
ResEdit,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ResEdit not RegEdit) and make changes
to the dialogs. I used to use ResEdit to do things like add command-key
combinations, change the names of menus, change the colours of menus, and
generally play around inside apps and system files, though only on a copy.
Many was the time that what seemed like a minor change (setting the
Finder=E2=80=99s menus to be black with white text, for example) proved to
be a
Very Bad Idea.

I used it some. Still have keyboard layouts I made with it and they still
work on macOS.

Hasn't it always been called "MacOS"?


Nope. In the Classic days it was System 1, System 2, System 3, System 4,
Software System 5, Software System 6, Software System 7/Mac OS 7, Mac OS 8,
Mac OS 9... then Mac OS X, then OS X, then macOS. And somewhere in there the
older Mac was called "Classic" as it ran on the newer one.

All very simple, of course.


Well better than 1,2,3,95 anyway.


They had the other numbers but they were not good enough to release... even
for MS.

But now Apple have started this bull**** with animals. How can anyone
remember whether a Tiger or a Leopard is better?


I still tend to think of them by their numbers.... though with some the names
were made to show connections (Snow Leopard followed Leopard for example).

Now they have gone all the way up to 11!


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.


  #44  
Old August 23rd 20, 10:45 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 22:35:06 +0100, Snit wrote:

On Aug 23, 2020 at 2:08:15 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey""
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:51:05 +0100, Snit
wrote:

On Aug 23, 2020 at 1:47:42 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey""
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:42:48 +0100, Snit
wrote:

On Aug 23, 2020 at 1:38:47 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey""
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:00:17 +0100, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 8/23/20 9:33 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I have a major problem with Windows dialog boxes. Everything in my life
is affirmative action to the right (stereo volume control, car
accelerator, etc). Linux and Mac have OK on the right, that's fine.
Even though I virtually never use those two OSes, non-computer things in
life have ingrained it into my head that yes is on the right and no is
on the left. Almost 50% of the time I subconsciously click the wrong
button in a Windows dialog box because I expect OK to be on the right.
"Do you want to save this?" "Yes, oh no, I pressed cancel!"

There must be some utility I can use to swap these buttons over?

I never noticed this problem until someone else mentioned it. I would
click on the appropriate box like "OK" not just some location within the
window.

Do you glance down at your car pedals each time to the labels you wrote on
them saying "brake" and "gas"?

Hard to do when still checking that turning the steering wheel clockwise
will
lead to me turning right... it is randomly decided each time I start the
car.


That reminds me of when I was reversing my car out of a very tight spot in a
small local garage. Other people had placed their cars in the way of the
exit. A mechanic said one of those things that gets on my nerves: "left
hand
down". WTF does that mean? Especially when I'm looking over my shoulder
with only my right hand on the wheel! Just say "left" or "right". The car
will go the same way no matter which way it's facing! A clockwise turn on
the wheel makes it go right, in either gear!!


Teaching my oldest child to drive... while it is obvious to those of us with
experience, when you are new going in reverse confuses people.


Going in reverse is THE SAME. The wheel goes the same way to make the car go
to the right in either direction. How can anyone possibly get that wrong?


Work with people just learning. You will see.


Nope, I used to be a learner driver, we all did.

The only thing incompetants can get wrong is reversing a trailer, as you're
steering the car not the trailer.


I should include that in my lessons.


Hitch a trailer to the trailer for added fun. That could be an Olympic sport.
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Old August 23rd 20, 10:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
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Default How to swap OK and Cancel in dialog boxes?

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 22:36:24 +0100, Snit wrote:

On Aug 23, 2020 at 2:06:35 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey""
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:55:02 +0100, Snit
wrote:

On Aug 23, 2020 at 1:43:58 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey""
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 20:27:28 +0100, Snit
wrote:

Wolffan wrote:
On 23 Aug 2020, Commander Kinsey wrote
(in article op.0ps315mnwdg98l@glass):

I have a major problem with Windows dialog boxes. Everything in my life is
affirmative action to the right (stereo volume control, car accelerator,
etc). Linux and Mac have OK on the right, that's fine. Even though I
virtually never use those two OSes, non-computer things in life have
ingrained it into my head that yes is on the right and no is on the left.
Almost 50% of the time I subconsciously click the wrong button in a Windows
dialog box because I expect OK to be on the right. "Do you want to save
this?" "Yes, oh no, I pressed cancel!"

There must be some utility I can use to swap these buttons over?

I suspect that you won=E2=80=99t want to hear it, but the default on Macs
is to
have OK on the right... And, back in the days of the Resource Editor,
it was
possible, though very much advised against, to dig up ResEdit
(that=E2=80=99s
ResEdit,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ResEdit not RegEdit) and make changes
to the dialogs. I used to use ResEdit to do things like add command-key
combinations, change the names of menus, change the colours of menus, and
generally play around inside apps and system files, though only on a copy.
Many was the time that what seemed like a minor change (setting the
Finder=E2=80=99s menus to be black with white text, for example) proved to
be a
Very Bad Idea.

I used it some. Still have keyboard layouts I made with it and they still
work on macOS.

Hasn't it always been called "MacOS"?

Nope. In the Classic days it was System 1, System 2, System 3, System 4,
Software System 5, Software System 6, Software System 7/Mac OS 7, Mac OS 8,
Mac OS 9... then Mac OS X, then OS X, then macOS. And somewhere in there the
older Mac was called "Classic" as it ran on the newer one.

All very simple, of course.


Well better than 1,2,3,95 anyway.


They had the other numbers but they were not good enough to release... even
for MS.

But now Apple have started this bull**** with animals. How can anyone
remember whether a Tiger or a Leopard is better?


I still tend to think of them by their numbers.... though with some the names
were made to show connections (Snow Leopard followed Leopard for example).

Now they have gone all the way up to 11!


Yeah but Firefox is on about 70. Seems their programmers don't know what a decimal point is.
 




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