Separator Lines

In my first Post, I wrote the following:

I use both WIN XP Home and Pro, and I have around 240
programs, not including all the associated links and
programs that go with those programs. I notice in
the "Start" and "Start/All Programs/" menus there are
separator lines (such as the small line directly above
the "All Programs") to help categorize your programs. I
would like to know how to add more lines, so I can
separate my "Start/All Programs" menu into different
categories, making it easier to find office, photo
editing, games, and other program groups.

I then Received a reply telling me how to create a new
Folder. (Why?) I also received:

Subject: Start Menu Groups
From: "Delwin Lee [MSFT]"
Sent: 9/21/2003 3:16:22
PM
You can't add separator lines. The one that appears
divides the "All Users"
programs list from the Programs list specific to the
current user.

I dont beleive this is true due to the fact that someone
put those lines there, therefore common logic tells me
that if they can add lines, so can I. All I wanted was to
partition my "Start/ All Programs" menu with lines. I
know how to add a folder and fill it with sub folders,
thats too easy, and not the fix I was looking for. Does
anybody have any ideas? I'm greatful for any assistance.
Thanks, Dale

"Dale" wrote:

I dont beleive this is true due to the fact that someone
put those lines there, therefore common logic tells me
that if they can add lines, so can I.

Technically yes. You would at first have to find out where and how
Microsoft added this to the Windows code. If this is done, get their
permission to alter the (copyrighted) code to add more lines.
Or simply split the Start Menu into different submenus.

--
(tm)

You might want to take a look at ObjectBar from www.stardock.com or =
http://www.stardock.com/products.asp HTH.

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Just my =A2 worth
Jeff
__________in response to__________
"Dale" wrote in message =
...
| In my first Post, I wrote the following:
|=20
| I use both WIN XP Home and Pro, and I have around 240=20
| programs, not including all the associated links and=20
| programs that go with those programs. I notice in=20
| the "Start" and "Start/All Programs/" menus there are=20
| separator lines (such as the small line directly above=20
| the "All Programs") to help categorize your programs. I=20
| would like to know how to add more lines, so I can=20
| separate my "Start/All Programs" menu into different=20
| categories, making it easier to find office, photo=20
| editing, games, and other program groups.
|=20
| I then Received a reply telling me how to create a new=20
| Folder. (Why?) I also received:
|=20
| Subject: Start Menu Groups=20
| From: "Delwin Lee [MSFT]"=20
| Sent: 9/21/2003 3:16:22=20
| PM=20
| You can't add separator lines. The one that appears=20
| divides the "All Users"
| programs list from the Programs list specific to the=20
| current user.
|=20
| I dont beleive this is true due to the fact that someone=20
| put those lines there, therefore common logic tells me=20
| that if they can add lines, so can I. All I wanted was to=20
| partition my "Start/ All Programs" menu with lines. I=20
| know how to add a folder and fill it with sub folders,=20
| thats too easy, and not the fix I was looking for. Does=20
| anybody have any ideas? I'm greatful for any assistance.=20
| Thanks, Dale

Dale,

| I then Received a reply telling me how to create a new
Folder.

Not so!

If you would read _*ALL OF THE WORDS*_ that I
wrote, "common logic tells me that" you would see that I
did _*NOT*_ tell you "how to create a new Folder".

I described a simple method whereby you could achieve
your stated objective, namely, to "separate ... "Start/All
Programs" menu into different categories".

--

| (Why?)

Why ask in this new thread, when you have not quoted what
I suggested in my reply-post dated Sep 19 2003 6:27PM.

"Common logic tells me that" nobody reading your new post,
dated Sep 23 2003 2:41PM, would have any idea what you are
talking about, and therefore could not possibly answer
this question.

-AND-

You have not replied to the authors of either reply to
your "first Post" dated Sep 19 2003 4:37PM, in this
newsgroup.

The other reply-poster might not read this new thread, so
you are not extending to that person, the courtesy of
granting a right of reply in the original thread.

So "common logic tells me that" you are _*DEFINITELY
NOT*_ "greatful (sic) for any assistance".

--

| "I dont beleive this is true..."
| "I know how to add a folder and fill it with sub folders"

If you are neither a child nor a sensitive adult,
then I strongly suggest you study this article,
"How To Ask Questions The Smart Way"
(http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html)

Jan


---THIS IS WHAT I WROTE---

Subject: Start Menu Groups
From: "_Jan"
Sent: 9/19/2003 6:27:57 PM

- For the current user, Right-click [Start]| Explore |
-AND/OR-
- For all users, Right-click [Start]| Explore All Users |
-THEN-
- Create new folders.
- Drag shortcuts to these new folders.

--- END ---



-----Original Message-----
In my first Post, I wrote the following:

I use both WIN XP Home and Pro, and I have around 240
programs, not including all the associated links and
programs that go with those programs. I notice in
the "Start" and "Start/All Programs/" menus there are
separator lines (such as the small line directly above
the "All Programs") to help categorize your programs. I
would like to know how to add more lines, so I can
separate my "Start/All Programs" menu into different
categories, making it easier to find office, photo
editing, games, and other program groups.

I then Received a reply telling me how to create a new
Folder. (Why?) I also received:

Subject: Start Menu Groups
From: "Delwin Lee [MSFT]"
Sent: 9/21/2003 3:16:22
PM
You can't add separator lines. The one that appears
divides the "All Users"
programs list from the Programs list specific to the
current user.

I dont beleive this is true due to the fact that someone
put those lines there, therefore common logic tells me
that if they can add lines, so can I.

All I wanted was to partition my "Start/ All Programs"
menu with lines.

I know how to add a folder and fill it with sub folders,
thats too easy, and not the fix I was looking for. Does
anybody have any ideas? I'm greatful for any assistance.
Thanks, Dale

I apologise, I did not mean to be rude, nor was my
statement meant as an insult. I simply new how to do as
you suggested, yet that method was not what I was looking
for. I was willing to re-write the code if I had to to
get what I needed. Second, I was too busy at the time to
reply. I intended to wait until I was satisfied with the
results of my inquiry, then compose a general statement
of "thanks for your time and assistance" to be copied and
pasted into every reply with a personal note regarding
each individual reply. (why) was not meant to offend,
simply a question. I am greatfull for your time ans
assistance...Thanks, Dale

-----Original Message-----
Dale,

| I then Received a reply telling me how to create a new
Folder.

Not so!

If you would read _*ALL OF THE WORDS*_ that I
wrote, "common logic tells me that" you would see that I
did _*NOT*_ tell you "how to create a new Folder".

I described a simple method whereby you could achieve
your stated objective, namely,
to "separate ... "Start/All
Programs" menu into different categories".

--

| (Why?)

Why ask in this new thread, when you have not quoted
what
I suggested in my reply-post dated Sep 19 2003 6:27PM.

"Common logic tells me that" nobody reading your new
post,
dated Sep 23 2003 2:41PM, would have any idea what you
are
talking about, and therefore could not possibly answer
this question.

-AND-

You have not replied to the authors of either reply to
your "first Post" dated Sep 19 2003 4:37PM, in this
newsgroup.

The other reply-poster might not read this new thread,
so
you are not extending to that person, the courtesy of
granting a right of reply in the original thread.

So "common logic tells me that" you are _*DEFINITELY
NOT*_ "greatful (sic) for any assistance".

--

| "I dont beleive this is true..."
| "I know how to add a folder and fill it with sub
folders"

If you are neither a child nor a sensitive adult,
then I strongly suggest you study this article,
"How To Ask Questions The Smart Way"
(http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html)

Jan


---THIS IS WHAT I WROTE---

Subject: Start Menu Groups
From: "_Jan"
Sent: 9/19/2003 6:27:57 PM

- For the current user, Right-click [Start]| Explore |
-AND/OR-
- For all users, Right-click [Start]| Explore All Users |
-THEN-
- Create new folders.
- Drag shortcuts to these new folders.

--- END ---



-----Original Message-----
In my first Post, I wrote the following:

I use both WIN XP Home and Pro, and I have around 240
programs, not including all the associated links and
programs that go with those programs. I notice in
the "Start" and "Start/All Programs/" menus there are
separator lines (such as the small line directly above
the "All Programs") to help categorize your programs. I
would like to know how to add more lines, so I can
separate my "Start/All Programs" menu into different
categories, making it easier to find office, photo
editing, games, and other program groups.

I then Received a reply telling me how to create a new
Folder. (Why?) I also received:

Subject: Start Menu Groups
From: "Delwin Lee [MSFT]"
Sent: 9/21/2003 3:16:22
PM
You can't add separator lines. The one that appears
divides the "All Users"
programs list from the Programs list specific to the
current user.

I dont beleive this is true due to the fact that
someone
put those lines there, therefore common logic tells me
that if they can add lines, so can I.

All I wanted was to partition my "Start/ All Programs"
menu with lines.

I know how to add a folder and fill it with sub folders,
thats too easy, and not the fix I was looking for. Does
anybody have any ideas? I'm greatful for any
assistance.
Thanks, Dale

.

That just might be to much trouble... but thanks for you
time and assistance, Dale

-----Original Message-----
"Dale" wrote:

I dont beleive this is true due to the fact that
someone
put those lines there, therefore common logic tells me
that if they can add lines, so can I.

Technically yes. You would at first have to find out
where and how
Microsoft added this to the Windows code. If this is
done, get their
permission to alter the (copyrighted) code to add more
lines.
Or simply split the Start Menu into different submenus.

--
(tm)
.

Thanks for the links, I have checked them out and am=20
intrigued. But I think I'll just use the multtiple=20
desktops, my video card has to offer for right now.
Thank you for your timre and assistance, Dale=20
-----Original Message-----
You might want to take a look at ObjectBar from=20
www.stardock.com or http://www.stardock.com/products.asp=20
HTH.

--=20
Just my =A2 worth
Jeff
__________in response to__________
"Dale" wrote in message=20
...
| In my first Post, I wrote the following:
|=20
| I use both WIN XP Home and Pro, and I have around 240=20
| programs, not including all the associated links and=20
| programs that go with those programs. I notice in=20
| the "Start" and "Start/All Programs/" menus there are=20
| separator lines (such as the small line directly above=20
| the "All Programs") to help categorize your programs.=20
I=20
| would like to know how to add more lines, so I can=20
| separate my "Start/All Programs" menu into different=20
| categories, making it easier to find office, photo=20
| editing, games, and other program groups.
|=20
| I then Received a reply telling me how to create a new=20
| Folder. (Why?) I also received:
|=20
| Subject: Start Menu Groups=20
| From: "Delwin Lee [MSFT]"=20
| Sent: 9/21/2003=20
3:16:22=20
| PM=20
| You can't add separator lines. The one that appears=20
| divides the "All Users"
| programs list from the Programs list specific to the=20
| current user.
|=20
| I dont beleive this is true due to the fact that=20
someone=20
| put those lines there, therefore common logic tells me=20
| that if they can add lines, so can I. All I wanted was=20
to=20
| partition my "Start/ All Programs" menu with lines. I=20
| know how to add a folder and fill it with sub folders,=20
| thats too easy, and not the fix I was looking for.=20
Does=20
| anybody have any ideas? I'm greatful for any=20
assistance.=20
| Thanks, Dale
.

Thank you for your links, a have looked into them and I=20
am intrigued, but I think I'll just use the multiple=20
desktops offered by my video card. Thankyou for your time=20
and assistance, Dale
-----Original Message-----
You might want to take a look at ObjectBar from=20
www.stardock.com or http://www.stardock.com/products.asp=20
HTH.

--=20
Just my =A2 worth
Jeff
__________in response to__________
"Dale" wrote in message=20
...
| In my first Post, I wrote the following:
|=20
| I use both WIN XP Home and Pro, and I have around 240=20
| programs, not including all the associated links and=20
| programs that go with those programs. I notice in=20
| the "Start" and "Start/All Programs/" menus there are=20
| separator lines (such as the small line directly above=20
| the "All Programs") to help categorize your programs.=20
I=20
| would like to know how to add more lines, so I can=20
| separate my "Start/All Programs" menu into different=20
| categories, making it easier to find office, photo=20
| editing, games, and other program groups.
|=20
| I then Received a reply telling me how to create a new=20
| Folder. (Why?) I also received:
|=20
| Subject: Start Menu Groups=20
| From: "Delwin Lee [MSFT]"=20
| Sent: 9/21/2003=20
3:16:22=20
| PM=20
| You can't add separator lines. The one that appears=20
| divides the "All Users"
| programs list from the Programs list specific to the=20
| current user.
|=20
| I dont beleive this is true due to the fact that=20
someone=20
| put those lines there, therefore common logic tells me=20
| that if they can add lines, so can I. All I wanted was=20
to=20
| partition my "Start/ All Programs" menu with lines. I=20
| know how to add a folder and fill it with sub folders,=20
| thats too easy, and not the fix I was looking for.=20
Does=20
| anybody have any ideas? I'm greatful for any=20
assistance.=20
| Thanks, Dale
.

"Dale" wrote:

That just might be to much trouble... but thanks for you
time and assistance, Dale

;\
You are welcome.

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(tm)