Memory Problem

-----Original Message-----
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 12:50:13 -0700, "Jeff"
wrote:

I have developed a recent memory problem with my
system.
I have noticed that recently most of the memory on my
system is being used or "taken" by the system cache. I
have 256MB of memory, but after boot up I have
approximately 75-80MB in available memory and about
145MB
in system cache. If I monitor it, I can see the system
cache growing while the available memory shrinks.

I found a 3rd party program online that frees up the
memory to where it should be. Once I do that, the
system
cache begins taking memory again. I checked the
processes and the problem seems to be in an SVC.exe
process. Right after boot up it is around 20MB which
seems very large to me. I have checked for viruses,
spyware, etc. Nothing has worked. I would appreciate
any help you can give me.

Thanks


Nothing wrong here... by design, XP will use all the
memory it has
access to. This results in a much faster system because
you are
actually utilizing your resources rather than them just
sitting there.
Would you prefer that XP swaps that data out to your
paging file
instead of keeping it in memory? That would be a big
performance
hit...

Which would you prefer... a system that uses that
memory for whatever
it needs, or one that leaves the memory free and runs
slower?

I have found XP to be very good at managing memory
resources, freeing
up memory it has allocated for system cache as it needs
it to load and
execute applications.
.


Thanks Daniel, Just to make sure we're on the same page;
are you saying that WinXP is simply "grabbing" all of the
available RAM that it can in order to put it in system
cache so the machine runs faster? If so, great.. then I
have no problem.

Thanks,

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
Jeff

http://www.liutilities.com/products/...spro/processli
brary/svc/

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...er/venc/data/b
ackdoor.madfind.html

--

~~~~~~
Thanks, per your response, I ran a virus check in safe
mode with negative results. I received another response
(which I'm sure you've seen) saying this was actually
normal. Thanks for your help. I'm about due for a
reload anyway so if there is a problem, that should take
care of it. I appreciate your help.

Jeff

Hope this helps.

Gerry
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"Jeff" wrote in
message ...
I have developed a recent memory problem with my
system.
I have noticed that recently most of the memory on my
system is being used or "taken" by the system cache.
I
have 256MB of memory, but after boot up I have
approximately 75-80MB in available memory and about
145MB
in system cache. If I monitor it, I can see the
system
cache growing while the available memory shrinks.

I found a 3rd party program online that frees up the
memory to where it should be. Once I do that, the
system
cache begins taking memory again. I checked the
processes and the problem seems to be in an SVC.exe
process. Right after boot up it is around 20MB which
seems very large to me. I have checked for viruses,
spyware, etc. Nothing has worked. I would appreciate
any help you can give me.

Thanks
.

-----Original Message-----
Jeff

http://www.liutilities.com/products/...spro/processli
brary/svc/

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...er/venc/data/b
ackdoor.madfind.html

--

~~~~~~
Thanks, per your response, I ran a virus check in safe
mode with negative results. I received another response
(which I'm sure you've seen) saying this was actually
normal. Thanks for your help. I'm about due for a
reload anyway so if there is a problem, that should take
care of it. I appreciate your help.

Jeff

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please tell the newsgroup how any
suggested solution worked for you.
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



"Jeff" wrote in
message ...
I have developed a recent memory problem with my
system.
I have noticed that recently most of the memory on my
system is being used or "taken" by the system cache.
I
have 256MB of memory, but after boot up I have
approximately 75-80MB in available memory and about
145MB
in system cache. If I monitor it, I can see the
system
cache growing while the available memory shrinks.

I found a 3rd party program online that frees up the
memory to where it should be. Once I do that, the
system
cache begins taking memory again. I checked the
processes and the problem seems to be in an SVC.exe
process. Right after boot up it is around 20MB which
seems very large to me. I have checked for viruses,
spyware, etc. Nothing has worked. I would appreciate
any help you can give me.

Thanks
.

-----Original Message-----
Jeff

http://www.liutilities.com/products/...spro/processli
brary/svc/

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...er/venc/data/b
ackdoor.madfind.html

--

~~~~~~
Thanks, per your response, I ran a virus check in safe
mode with negative results. I received another response
(which I'm sure you've seen) saying this was actually
normal. Thanks for your help. I'm about due for a
reload anyway so if there is a problem, that should take
care of it. I appreciate your help.

Jeff

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please tell the newsgroup how any
suggested solution worked for you.
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



"Jeff" wrote in
message ...
I have developed a recent memory problem with my
system.
I have noticed that recently most of the memory on my
system is being used or "taken" by the system cache.
I
have 256MB of memory, but after boot up I have
approximately 75-80MB in available memory and about
145MB
in system cache. If I monitor it, I can see the
system
cache growing while the available memory shrinks.

I found a 3rd party program online that frees up the
memory to where it should be. Once I do that, the
system
cache begins taking memory again. I checked the
processes and the problem seems to be in an SVC.exe
process. Right after boot up it is around 20MB which
seems very large to me. I have checked for viruses,
spyware, etc. Nothing has worked. I would appreciate
any help you can give me.

Thanks
.

-----Original Message-----
Jeff

http://www.liutilities.com/products/...spro/processli
brary/svc/

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...er/venc/data/b
ackdoor.madfind.html

--

~~~~~~
Thanks, per your response, I ran a virus check in safe
mode with negative results. I received another response
(which I'm sure you've seen) saying this was actually
normal. Thanks for your help. I'm about due for a
reload anyway so if there is a problem, that should take
care of it. I appreciate your help.

Jeff

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please tell the newsgroup how any
suggested solution worked for you.
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



"Jeff" wrote in
message ...
I have developed a recent memory problem with my
system.
I have noticed that recently most of the memory on my
system is being used or "taken" by the system cache.
I
have 256MB of memory, but after boot up I have
approximately 75-80MB in available memory and about
145MB
in system cache. If I monitor it, I can see the
system
cache growing while the available memory shrinks.

I found a 3rd party program online that frees up the
memory to where it should be. Once I do that, the
system
cache begins taking memory again. I checked the
processes and the problem seems to be in an SVC.exe
process. Right after boot up it is around 20MB which
seems very large to me. I have checked for viruses,
spyware, etc. Nothing has worked. I would appreciate
any help you can give me.

Thanks
.

-----Original Message-----
Jeff

http://www.liutilities.com/products/...spro/processli
brary/svc/

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...er/venc/data/b
ackdoor.madfind.html

--

~~~~~~
Thanks, per your response, I ran a virus check in safe
mode with negative results. I received another response
(which I'm sure you've seen) saying this was actually
normal. Thanks for your help. I'm about due for a
reload anyway so if there is a problem, that should take
care of it. I appreciate your help.

Jeff

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please tell the newsgroup how any
suggested solution worked for you.
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



"Jeff" wrote in
message ...
I have developed a recent memory problem with my
system.
I have noticed that recently most of the memory on my
system is being used or "taken" by the system cache.
I
have 256MB of memory, but after boot up I have
approximately 75-80MB in available memory and about
145MB
in system cache. If I monitor it, I can see the
system
cache growing while the available memory shrinks.

I found a 3rd party program online that frees up the
memory to where it should be. Once I do that, the
system
cache begins taking memory again. I checked the
processes and the problem seems to be in an SVC.exe
process. Right after boot up it is around 20MB which
seems very large to me. I have checked for viruses,
spyware, etc. Nothing has worked. I would appreciate
any help you can give me.

Thanks
.

-----Original Message-----
Jeff

http://www.liutilities.com/products/...spro/processli
brary/svc/

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...er/venc/data/b
ackdoor.madfind.html

--

~~~~~~
Thanks, per your response, I ran a virus check in safe
mode with negative results. I received another response
(which I'm sure you've seen) saying this was actually
normal. Thanks for your help. I'm about due for a
reload anyway so if there is a problem, that should take
care of it. I appreciate your help.

Jeff

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please tell the newsgroup how any
suggested solution worked for you.
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



"Jeff" wrote in
message ...
I have developed a recent memory problem with my
system.
I have noticed that recently most of the memory on my
system is being used or "taken" by the system cache.
I
have 256MB of memory, but after boot up I have
approximately 75-80MB in available memory and about
145MB
in system cache. If I monitor it, I can see the
system
cache growing while the available memory shrinks.

I found a 3rd party program online that frees up the
memory to where it should be. Once I do that, the
system
cache begins taking memory again. I checked the
processes and the problem seems to be in an SVC.exe
process. Right after boot up it is around 20MB which
seems very large to me. I have checked for viruses,
spyware, etc. Nothing has worked. I would appreciate
any help you can give me.

Thanks
.

-----Original Message-----
Jeff

http://www.liutilities.com/products/...spro/processli
brary/svc/

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...er/venc/data/b
ackdoor.madfind.html

--

~~~~~~
Thanks, per your response, I ran a virus check in safe
mode with negative results. I received another response
(which I'm sure you've seen) saying this was actually
normal. Thanks for your help. I'm about due for a
reload anyway so if there is a problem, that should take
care of it. I appreciate your help.

Jeff

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please tell the newsgroup how any
suggested solution worked for you.
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



"Jeff" wrote in
message ...
I have developed a recent memory problem with my
system.
I have noticed that recently most of the memory on my
system is being used or "taken" by the system cache.
I
have 256MB of memory, but after boot up I have
approximately 75-80MB in available memory and about
145MB
in system cache. If I monitor it, I can see the
system
cache growing while the available memory shrinks.

I found a 3rd party program online that frees up the
memory to where it should be. Once I do that, the
system
cache begins taking memory again. I checked the
processes and the problem seems to be in an SVC.exe
process. Right after boot up it is around 20MB which
seems very large to me. I have checked for viruses,
spyware, etc. Nothing has worked. I would appreciate
any help you can give me.

Thanks
.

wrote:


Thanks Daniel, Just to make sure we're on the same page;
are you saying that WinXP is simply "grabbing" all of the
available RAM that it can in order to put it in system
cache so the machine runs faster? If so, great.. then I
have no problem.


Yes. Daniel gave you the correct information.

Windows XP will, by design, always attempt to find some use, anything
that might potentially be of some benefit, for every bit of the
installed RAM rather than just leaving that RAM sitting there idly
going to rot and doing absolutely no good for anybody.

And just as soon as some better use comes along for some of that RAM
then Windows will instantaneously drop the more trivial usages so as
to free up whatever is now required.

Free memory should more properly be referred to as *useless* memory
because that is what it represents - memory for which Windows has so
far been totally unable to find any beneficial use for.

There are a number of so-called memory freeing utilities out there,
some free others requiring payment. Without exception these utilities
are totally without merit. There are all totally incapable of
performing any beneficial function for Windows XP under any
circumstances.

Hope this clarifies the situation.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."

wrote:


Thanks Daniel, Just to make sure we're on the same page;
are you saying that WinXP is simply "grabbing" all of the
available RAM that it can in order to put it in system
cache so the machine runs faster? If so, great.. then I
have no problem.


Yes. Daniel gave you the correct information.

Windows XP will, by design, always attempt to find some use, anything
that might potentially be of some benefit, for every bit of the
installed RAM rather than just leaving that RAM sitting there idly
going to rot and doing absolutely no good for anybody.

And just as soon as some better use comes along for some of that RAM
then Windows will instantaneously drop the more trivial usages so as
to free up whatever is now required.

Free memory should more properly be referred to as *useless* memory
because that is what it represents - memory for which Windows has so
far been totally unable to find any beneficial use for.

There are a number of so-called memory freeing utilities out there,
some free others requiring payment. Without exception these utilities
are totally without merit. There are all totally incapable of
performing any beneficial function for Windows XP under any
circumstances.

Hope this clarifies the situation.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."

wrote:


Thanks Daniel, Just to make sure we're on the same page;
are you saying that WinXP is simply "grabbing" all of the
available RAM that it can in order to put it in system
cache so the machine runs faster? If so, great.. then I
have no problem.


Yes. Daniel gave you the correct information.

Windows XP will, by design, always attempt to find some use, anything
that might potentially be of some benefit, for every bit of the
installed RAM rather than just leaving that RAM sitting there idly
going to rot and doing absolutely no good for anybody.

And just as soon as some better use comes along for some of that RAM
then Windows will instantaneously drop the more trivial usages so as
to free up whatever is now required.

Free memory should more properly be referred to as *useless* memory
because that is what it represents - memory for which Windows has so
far been totally unable to find any beneficial use for.

There are a number of so-called memory freeing utilities out there,
some free others requiring payment. Without exception these utilities
are totally without merit. There are all totally incapable of
performing any beneficial function for Windows XP under any
circumstances.

Hope this clarifies the situation.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."

wrote:


Thanks Daniel, Just to make sure we're on the same page;
are you saying that WinXP is simply "grabbing" all of the
available RAM that it can in order to put it in system
cache so the machine runs faster? If so, great.. then I
have no problem.


Yes. Daniel gave you the correct information.

Windows XP will, by design, always attempt to find some use, anything
that might potentially be of some benefit, for every bit of the
installed RAM rather than just leaving that RAM sitting there idly
going to rot and doing absolutely no good for anybody.

And just as soon as some better use comes along for some of that RAM
then Windows will instantaneously drop the more trivial usages so as
to free up whatever is now required.

Free memory should more properly be referred to as *useless* memory
because that is what it represents - memory for which Windows has so
far been totally unable to find any beneficial use for.

There are a number of so-called memory freeing utilities out there,
some free others requiring payment. Without exception these utilities
are totally without merit. There are all totally incapable of
performing any beneficial function for Windows XP under any
circumstances.

Hope this clarifies the situation.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."

wrote:


Thanks Daniel, Just to make sure we're on the same page;
are you saying that WinXP is simply "grabbing" all of the
available RAM that it can in order to put it in system
cache so the machine runs faster? If so, great.. then I
have no problem.


Yes. Daniel gave you the correct information.

Windows XP will, by design, always attempt to find some use, anything
that might potentially be of some benefit, for every bit of the
installed RAM rather than just leaving that RAM sitting there idly
going to rot and doing absolutely no good for anybody.

And just as soon as some better use comes along for some of that RAM
then Windows will instantaneously drop the more trivial usages so as
to free up whatever is now required.

Free memory should more properly be referred to as *useless* memory
because that is what it represents - memory for which Windows has so
far been totally unable to find any beneficial use for.

There are a number of so-called memory freeing utilities out there,
some free others requiring payment. Without exception these utilities
are totally without merit. There are all totally incapable of
performing any beneficial function for Windows XP under any
circumstances.

Hope this clarifies the situation.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."

wrote:


Thanks Daniel, Just to make sure we're on the same page;
are you saying that WinXP is simply "grabbing" all of the
available RAM that it can in order to put it in system
cache so the machine runs faster? If so, great.. then I
have no problem.


Yes. Daniel gave you the correct information.

Windows XP will, by design, always attempt to find some use, anything
that might potentially be of some benefit, for every bit of the
installed RAM rather than just leaving that RAM sitting there idly
going to rot and doing absolutely no good for anybody.

And just as soon as some better use comes along for some of that RAM
then Windows will instantaneously drop the more trivial usages so as
to free up whatever is now required.

Free memory should more properly be referred to as *useless* memory
because that is what it represents - memory for which Windows has so
far been totally unable to find any beneficial use for.

There are a number of so-called memory freeing utilities out there,
some free others requiring payment. Without exception these utilities
are totally without merit. There are all totally incapable of
performing any beneficial function for Windows XP under any
circumstances.

Hope this clarifies the situation.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."

wrote:


Thanks Daniel, Just to make sure we're on the same page;
are you saying that WinXP is simply "grabbing" all of the
available RAM that it can in order to put it in system
cache so the machine runs faster? If so, great.. then I
have no problem.


Yes. Daniel gave you the correct information.

Windows XP will, by design, always attempt to find some use, anything
that might potentially be of some benefit, for every bit of the
installed RAM rather than just leaving that RAM sitting there idly
going to rot and doing absolutely no good for anybody.

And just as soon as some better use comes along for some of that RAM
then Windows will instantaneously drop the more trivial usages so as
to free up whatever is now required.

Free memory should more properly be referred to as *useless* memory
because that is what it represents - memory for which Windows has so
far been totally unable to find any beneficial use for.

There are a number of so-called memory freeing utilities out there,
some free others requiring payment. Without exception these utilities
are totally without merit. There are all totally incapable of
performing any beneficial function for Windows XP under any
circumstances.

Hope this clarifies the situation.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."