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Old February 15th 05, 11:31 PM
RRR_News
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Default defrag

I look over the specs for the program you mentioned. It looks similar to the
built in Maintenance Wizard, your program has the restart feature that could
be useful, but even the program doesn't require it, if everything else
works.

Unless you are doing heavy graphic use, using/creating/deleting large
image/media files daily. Or using the PC for testing purposes by
installing/removing programs constantly, there should not be a need to
defrag daily. If the program has a command line to shut off pc after
running program. You might consider having the program run Friday night,
when you leave the office, so Monday morning your pc will be defragged for
the coming week.

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"If_Its_Junk" If_Its_Junk at hotmail dot com wrote in message
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If_Its_Junk,
For just your Win98SE PC, you should be using a program called

"Maintenance
Wizard" that will defrag/scandisk and disk cleanup your PC on a regular
schedule.

On the W98SE pc START Programs Accessories System Tools Maintentence
Wizard Choose settings I personally use the default settings, but on the
scandisk tab, check the box to fix errors.

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If_Its_Junk If_Its_Junk at hotmail dot com typed:

I do a defrag daily on my Win98SE machine.






I use ScanDefrag from Blueorbsoft because it restarts the system before it
runs all of its programs - is there an advantage to changing to using the
Maintenance Wizard?



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  #17  
Old February 15th 05, 11:36 PM
Colin Barnhorst
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Default defrag

It is a sound buy. Hope you are satisfied with it. (Now if my commission
check makes it here before the first.... )

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Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
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"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message
...
Thank you, Colin. FWIW, I purchased two copies of Diskeeper 9 today.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
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"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
Executive Software recommends a defrag threshold of 2% to be on the safe
side. Diskeeper 9 introduced a new analysis screen which shows not just

the
fragmentation map, but also an impact map. It shows the degree to which

the
fragmentation present will degrade performance.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message
...
I concur with Colin, and while I personally prefer Raxco's "Perfect

Disk"
to Executive Software's "Diskeeper", for very technical reasons which

MVP
Alex Nichol, et.al., are better able to explain than me, both
defragmenters
are very fine tools.

One should be mindful that both offer the option to "Analyze" the disk
prior
to defragging it. One can then choose to defrag, according to one's
personal preference at that time.

FWIW & IIRC, MVP Jim Eshelman has previously commented that in his
experiments under Win 9X, esp. Win 98, he observed some performance
degradation beginning when fragmentation reached 4-6%. I suspect XP

will
be
quite different, ... under NTFS, at least.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
Opinions are all over the place. The only agreement is that a

fragmented
hard drive is a Bad Thing. Personally, I use Diskeeper 9 Home edition
($20)
and take advantage of the Set and Forget feature. Diskeeper then goes
into
action when fragmentation reaches 2% or so. It works in the
background
and
I have never detected a performance hit while it is running. There is

a
free trial option.

Other people like Perfect Disk. Whatever, but I do recommend a

defragger
that doesn't have to run on a set schedule but only runs when truly
needed.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
"If_Its_Junk" If_Its_Junk at hotmail dot com wrote in message
...
I do a defrag daily on my Win98SE machine.

Should I be doing the same on my new WinXP machine, and if not why

not?












  #18  
Old February 17th 05, 08:23 PM
Saavedro
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Default defrag

You should run a boot defrag as soon as you get diskeeper 9 installed.
Here's how:
Open the program.
Click 'Change Your Settings'
Click 'Set a boot-time defragmentation'
Select the volume (drive) you want to run a boot time defrag on.
Select 'On Next Manual Reboot'
Check the following selection boxes:
'Put all folders together on the volume'
'Defragment the paging file'
'Defragment the Master File Table (MFT)'
You can also select the option 'Run the system "CHKDSK" utility before
defragmentation" if you have
a lot of time on your hands. If you select it, it will take approxamately 3
hours to run. All depending
on the size of the volume you are defragging.
Now, click ok, and the program will give you a few notifications that you
set the boot defrag, and will
also tell you to back up files. This isn't absolutely necessary. I didn't
and I have no problems, but I would
recommend backing up important documts, just in case.
Now, Reboot your coputer (I know you know how to do that!)
It will look like it is starting normally, then you will get a different
screen right before it would normally go
into windows. This will run the Checkdisk and defragger. After this
completes, is will automatically restart,
and look like it is running again, but it is checking to make sure your
volume is 'good to go'. Let is run, it will
only take 5 minutes. Then it will proceed to restart again, and Poof!
Faster performance.



"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message
...
Thank you, Colin. FWIW, I purchased two copies of Diskeeper 9 today.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
Executive Software recommends a defrag threshold of 2% to be on the safe
side. Diskeeper 9 introduced a new analysis screen which shows not just

the
fragmentation map, but also an impact map. It shows the degree to which

the
fragmentation present will degrade performance.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message
...
I concur with Colin, and while I personally prefer Raxco's "Perfect

Disk"
to Executive Software's "Diskeeper", for very technical reasons which

MVP
Alex Nichol, et.al., are better able to explain than me, both
defragmenters
are very fine tools.

One should be mindful that both offer the option to "Analyze" the disk
prior
to defragging it. One can then choose to defrag, according to one's
personal preference at that time.

FWIW & IIRC, MVP Jim Eshelman has previously commented that in his
experiments under Win 9X, esp. Win 98, he observed some performance
degradation beginning when fragmentation reached 4-6%. I suspect XP

will
be
quite different, ... under NTFS, at least.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
Opinions are all over the place. The only agreement is that a

fragmented
hard drive is a Bad Thing. Personally, I use Diskeeper 9 Home edition
($20)
and take advantage of the Set and Forget feature. Diskeeper then goes
into
action when fragmentation reaches 2% or so. It works in the
background
and
I have never detected a performance hit while it is running. There is

a
free trial option.

Other people like Perfect Disk. Whatever, but I do recommend a

defragger
that doesn't have to run on a set schedule but only runs when truly
needed.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
"If_Its_Junk" If_Its_Junk at hotmail dot com wrote in message
...
I do a defrag daily on my Win98SE machine.

Should I be doing the same on my new WinXP machine, and if not why

not?












  #19  
Old February 17th 05, 08:52 PM
Colin Barnhorst
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Default defrag

Only if he buys the Pro version. It is not available in the Home version.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
"Saavedro" wrote in message
...
You should run a boot defrag as soon as you get diskeeper 9 installed.
Here's how:
Open the program.
Click 'Change Your Settings'
Click 'Set a boot-time defragmentation'
Select the volume (drive) you want to run a boot time defrag on.
Select 'On Next Manual Reboot'
Check the following selection boxes:
'Put all folders together on the volume'
'Defragment the paging file'
'Defragment the Master File Table (MFT)'
You can also select the option 'Run the system "CHKDSK" utility before
defragmentation" if you have
a lot of time on your hands. If you select it, it will take approxamately
3 hours to run. All depending
on the size of the volume you are defragging.
Now, click ok, and the program will give you a few notifications that you
set the boot defrag, and will
also tell you to back up files. This isn't absolutely necessary. I
didn't and I have no problems, but I would
recommend backing up important documts, just in case.
Now, Reboot your coputer (I know you know how to do that!)
It will look like it is starting normally, then you will get a different
screen right before it would normally go
into windows. This will run the Checkdisk and defragger. After this
completes, is will automatically restart,
and look like it is running again, but it is checking to make sure your
volume is 'good to go'. Let is run, it will
only take 5 minutes. Then it will proceed to restart again, and Poof!
Faster performance.



"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message
...
Thank you, Colin. FWIW, I purchased two copies of Diskeeper 9 today.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
Executive Software recommends a defrag threshold of 2% to be on the safe
side. Diskeeper 9 introduced a new analysis screen which shows not just

the
fragmentation map, but also an impact map. It shows the degree to which

the
fragmentation present will degrade performance.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message
...
I concur with Colin, and while I personally prefer Raxco's "Perfect

Disk"
to Executive Software's "Diskeeper", for very technical reasons which

MVP
Alex Nichol, et.al., are better able to explain than me, both
defragmenters
are very fine tools.

One should be mindful that both offer the option to "Analyze" the disk
prior
to defragging it. One can then choose to defrag, according to one's
personal preference at that time.

FWIW & IIRC, MVP Jim Eshelman has previously commented that in his
experiments under Win 9X, esp. Win 98, he observed some performance
degradation beginning when fragmentation reached 4-6%. I suspect XP

will
be
quite different, ... under NTFS, at least.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
Opinions are all over the place. The only agreement is that a

fragmented
hard drive is a Bad Thing. Personally, I use Diskeeper 9 Home
edition
($20)
and take advantage of the Set and Forget feature. Diskeeper then
goes
into
action when fragmentation reaches 2% or so. It works in the
background
and
I have never detected a performance hit while it is running. There
is

a
free trial option.

Other people like Perfect Disk. Whatever, but I do recommend a

defragger
that doesn't have to run on a set schedule but only runs when truly
needed.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
"If_Its_Junk" If_Its_Junk at hotmail dot com wrote in message
...
I do a defrag daily on my Win98SE machine.

Should I be doing the same on my new WinXP machine, and if not why

not?














  #20  
Old February 19th 05, 12:26 AM
Saavedro
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Default defrag

hmmmmmmm... yes you are right. So, definately invest in the pro version...
it's only a few bucks more.



"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
Only if he buys the Pro version. It is not available in the Home version.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
"Saavedro" wrote in message
...
You should run a boot defrag as soon as you get diskeeper 9 installed.
Here's how:
Open the program.
Click 'Change Your Settings'
Click 'Set a boot-time defragmentation'
Select the volume (drive) you want to run a boot time defrag on.
Select 'On Next Manual Reboot'
Check the following selection boxes:
'Put all folders together on the volume'
'Defragment the paging file'
'Defragment the Master File Table (MFT)'
You can also select the option 'Run the system "CHKDSK" utility before
defragmentation" if you have
a lot of time on your hands. If you select it, it will take
approxamately 3 hours to run. All depending
on the size of the volume you are defragging.
Now, click ok, and the program will give you a few notifications that you
set the boot defrag, and will
also tell you to back up files. This isn't absolutely necessary. I
didn't and I have no problems, but I would
recommend backing up important documts, just in case.
Now, Reboot your coputer (I know you know how to do that!)
It will look like it is starting normally, then you will get a different
screen right before it would normally go
into windows. This will run the Checkdisk and defragger. After this
completes, is will automatically restart,
and look like it is running again, but it is checking to make sure your
volume is 'good to go'. Let is run, it will
only take 5 minutes. Then it will proceed to restart again, and Poof!
Faster performance.



"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message
...
Thank you, Colin. FWIW, I purchased two copies of Diskeeper 9 today.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
Executive Software recommends a defrag threshold of 2% to be on the
safe
side. Diskeeper 9 introduced a new analysis screen which shows not
just
the
fragmentation map, but also an impact map. It shows the degree to
which
the
fragmentation present will degrade performance.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message
...
I concur with Colin, and while I personally prefer Raxco's "Perfect
Disk"
to Executive Software's "Diskeeper", for very technical reasons which
MVP
Alex Nichol, et.al., are better able to explain than me, both
defragmenters
are very fine tools.

One should be mindful that both offer the option to "Analyze" the
disk
prior
to defragging it. One can then choose to defrag, according to one's
personal preference at that time.

FWIW & IIRC, MVP Jim Eshelman has previously commented that in his
experiments under Win 9X, esp. Win 98, he observed some performance
degradation beginning when fragmentation reached 4-6%. I suspect XP
will
be
quite different, ... under NTFS, at least.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
Opinions are all over the place. The only agreement is that a
fragmented
hard drive is a Bad Thing. Personally, I use Diskeeper 9 Home
edition
($20)
and take advantage of the Set and Forget feature. Diskeeper then
goes
into
action when fragmentation reaches 2% or so. It works in the
background
and
I have never detected a performance hit while it is running. There
is
a
free trial option.

Other people like Perfect Disk. Whatever, but I do recommend a
defragger
that doesn't have to run on a set schedule but only runs when truly
needed.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
"If_Its_Junk" If_Its_Junk at hotmail dot com wrote in message
...
I do a defrag daily on my Win98SE machine.

Should I be doing the same on my new WinXP machine, and if not why
not?
















 




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