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Defrag question please
I have a smoothly running XP computer. For some time now, when I check
the defrag in control panel and analyze for possible defrag, I keep getting the same notice that says a defrag isn't needed on this drive. Right now I'm showing 84% free space and defrag not needed. The last defrag was several months ago, and even that was done with the defrag message telling me it wasn't needed. What's unusual is that I used to get a "defrag this drive message every month or so. There have been no changes made on the system, but the defrag message calling for a defrag doesn't come up any more. Is this a known issue in XP, or is there something I can do to check that the defrag program is actually working properly? Many thanks Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship |
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Defrag question please
Periodically, Windows XP will automatically perform a partial,
behind the scenes defrag, while idle. -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows XP - Shell/User Microsoft Newsgroups Be Smart! Protect Your PC! http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.mspx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Dudley Henriques" wrote: | I have a smoothly running XP computer. For some time now, when I check | the defrag in control panel and analyze for possible defrag, I keep | getting the same notice that says a defrag isn't needed on this drive. | Right now I'm showing 84% free space and defrag not needed. The last | defrag was several months ago, and even that was done with the defrag | message telling me it wasn't needed. | What's unusual is that I used to get a "defrag this drive message every | month or so. There have been no changes made on the system, but the | defrag message calling for a defrag doesn't come up any more. | Is this a known issue in XP, or is there something I can do to check | that the defrag program is actually working properly? | Many thanks | Dudley Henriques | International Fighter Pilots Fellowship |
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Defrag question please
Thank you.
DH "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote in message ... Periodically, Windows XP will automatically perform a partial, behind the scenes defrag, while idle. -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows XP - Shell/User Microsoft Newsgroups Be Smart! Protect Your PC! http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.mspx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Dudley Henriques" wrote: | I have a smoothly running XP computer. For some time now, when I check | the defrag in control panel and analyze for possible defrag, I keep | getting the same notice that says a defrag isn't needed on this drive. | Right now I'm showing 84% free space and defrag not needed. The last | defrag was several months ago, and even that was done with the defrag | message telling me it wasn't needed. | What's unusual is that I used to get a "defrag this drive message every | month or so. There have been no changes made on the system, but the | defrag message calling for a defrag doesn't come up any more. | Is this a known issue in XP, or is there something I can do to check | that the defrag program is actually working properly? | Many thanks | Dudley Henriques | International Fighter Pilots Fellowship |
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Defrag question please
Dudley Henriques wrote:
I have a smoothly running XP computer. For some time now, when I check the defrag in control panel and analyze for possible defrag, I keep getting the same notice that says a defrag isn't needed on this drive. Right now I'm showing 84% free space and defrag not needed. The last defrag was several months ago, and even that was done with the defrag message telling me it wasn't needed. I have always found the MS defrag far too likely to say not needed. Do it at convenience - say maybe once a month -- Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies) Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit) |
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Defrag question please
Thanks Alex. I'm hearing that I should get the O&O defrag to replace the
XP cut down version of Diskkeeper. Do you concur with this thinking, or is the XP supplied defrag sufficient? Dudley "Alex Nichol" wrote in message ... Dudley Henriques wrote: I have a smoothly running XP computer. For some time now, when I check the defrag in control panel and analyze for possible defrag, I keep getting the same notice that says a defrag isn't needed on this drive. Right now I'm showing 84% free space and defrag not needed. The last defrag was several months ago, and even that was done with the defrag message telling me it wasn't needed. I have always found the MS defrag far too likely to say not needed. Do it at convenience - say maybe once a month -- Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies) Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit) |
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Defrag question please
Good Morning,
Two things: (1) As has already been stated, I never pay any attention to the programs statement on the necessity of defragmentation. I just do it about every week or two. (2) Just what proof is offered to justify purchase of another defragger? I have seen this subject discussed many, many times WITHOUT any substantial facts presented to support another defragger. Just one opinion against another! So long as your computer has no problems you can relate specifically to the Windows defragger, I suggest you keep your money. Gene K Dudley Henriques wrote: Thanks Alex. I'm hearing that I should get the O&O defrag to replace the XP cut down version of Diskkeeper. Do you concur with this thinking, or is the XP supplied defrag sufficient? Dudley "Alex Nichol" wrote in message ... Dudley Henriques wrote: I have a smoothly running XP computer. For some time now, when I check the defrag in control panel and analyze for possible defrag, I keep getting the same notice that says a defrag isn't needed on this drive. Right now I'm showing 84% free space and defrag not needed. The last defrag was several months ago, and even that was done with the defrag message telling me it wasn't needed. I have always found the MS defrag far too likely to say not needed. Do it at convenience - say maybe once a month -- Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies) Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit) |
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The primary reason I spent $20 on Diskeeper 9 was to have a defragger that
automatically defrags as needed. The best time to defrag is when 'needed'. Regular scheduling is OK. It gets the defragging done. But I figure, why do it when it is not needed. -- Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine] (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested) "Dudley Henriques" wrote in message ... Thanks Alex. I'm hearing that I should get the O&O defrag to replace the XP cut down version of Diskkeeper. Do you concur with this thinking, or is the XP supplied defrag sufficient? Dudley "Alex Nichol" wrote in message ... Dudley Henriques wrote: I have a smoothly running XP computer. For some time now, when I check the defrag in control panel and analyze for possible defrag, I keep getting the same notice that says a defrag isn't needed on this drive. Right now I'm showing 84% free space and defrag not needed. The last defrag was several months ago, and even that was done with the defrag message telling me it wasn't needed. I have always found the MS defrag far too likely to say not needed. Do it at convenience - say maybe once a month -- Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies) Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit) |
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Defrag question please
Many thanks
D "Not Me" wrote in message ... Good Morning, Two things: (1) As has already been stated, I never pay any attention to the programs statement on the necessity of defragmentation. I just do it about every week or two. (2) Just what proof is offered to justify purchase of another defragger? I have seen this subject discussed many, many times WITHOUT any substantial facts presented to support another defragger. Just one opinion against another! So long as your computer has no problems you can relate specifically to the Windows defragger, I suggest you keep your money. Gene K Dudley Henriques wrote: Thanks Alex. I'm hearing that I should get the O&O defrag to replace the XP cut down version of Diskkeeper. Do you concur with this thinking, or is the XP supplied defrag sufficient? Dudley "Alex Nichol" wrote in message ... Dudley Henriques wrote: I have a smoothly running XP computer. For some time now, when I check the defrag in control panel and analyze for possible defrag, I keep getting the same notice that says a defrag isn't needed on this drive. Right now I'm showing 84% free space and defrag not needed. The last defrag was several months ago, and even that was done with the defrag message telling me it wasn't needed. I have always found the MS defrag far too likely to say not needed. Do it at convenience - say maybe once a month -- Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies) Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit) |
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Defrag question please
Thank you very much.
DH "Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message ... The primary reason I spent $20 on Diskeeper 9 was to have a defragger that automatically defrags as needed. The best time to defrag is when 'needed'. Regular scheduling is OK. It gets the defragging done. But I figure, why do it when it is not needed. -- Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine] (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested) "Dudley Henriques" wrote in message ... Thanks Alex. I'm hearing that I should get the O&O defrag to replace the XP cut down version of Diskkeeper. Do you concur with this thinking, or is the XP supplied defrag sufficient? Dudley "Alex Nichol" wrote in message ... Dudley Henriques wrote: I have a smoothly running XP computer. For some time now, when I check the defrag in control panel and analyze for possible defrag, I keep getting the same notice that says a defrag isn't needed on this drive. Right now I'm showing 84% free space and defrag not needed. The last defrag was several months ago, and even that was done with the defrag message telling me it wasn't needed. I have always found the MS defrag far too likely to say not needed. Do it at convenience - say maybe once a month -- Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies) Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit) |
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Defrag question please
Not Me wrote:
Good Morning, Two things: (1) As has already been stated, I never pay any attention to the programs statement on the necessity of defragmentation. I just do it about every week or two. (2) Just what proof is offered to justify purchase of another defragger? I have seen this subject discussed many, many times WITHOUT any substantial facts presented to support another defragger. Just one opinion against another! So long as your computer has no problems you can relate specifically to the Windows defragger, I suggest you keep your money. Gene K Then you have either done no research at all - or you're an idiot. I use Raxco PerfectDisk because - It will defrag with only 1% free (Windows Defrag requires 20%) - It monitors the drive and will perform a defrag, if required, when the system is idle - It can be scheduled - It defrags boot and system files as well as data (the Windows defrag does *NOT* defrag system, paging or boot files. - It can be set to defrag in the background and doesn't hog the CPU. That's five convincing arguments - how many can you counter? -- Facon - the artificial bacon bits you get in Pizza Hut for sprinkling on salads. |
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Defrag question please
Dudley Henriques wrote:
Thanks Alex. I'm hearing that I should get the O&O defrag to replace the XP cut down version of Diskkeeper. Do you concur with this thinking, or is the XP supplied defrag sufficient? Have not tried O&O myself, my preference is Perfect Disk, which is an excellent one. I do have a strong preference for one, that like PD will consolidate free space. And in that one, unlike the inbuilt or (I think still) Diskeeper, does *not* require 15 % free space to work at all -- Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies) Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit) |
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Defrag question please
Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
I use Raxco PerfectDisk because - It will defrag with only 1% free (Windows Defrag requires 20%) That's funny. On my system Disk Defragmenter recommends 15% free space. But it will happily defrag with a lot less free space. I have no idea where you have 20% from, my guess is you're mixing up with a general concensus about recommended free space. - It can be scheduled That may be true, but I don't see the relevance since the same is also true for the Windows Disk Defragmenter. |
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Defrag question please
I just downloaded Perfect Disk and am trying it now. It looks good.
They suggested I do an initial offline with all selected, then immediately do a smart placement; thereafter doing the smart placement with off line once a month. Dudley "Alex Nichol" wrote in message ... Dudley Henriques wrote: Thanks Alex. I'm hearing that I should get the O&O defrag to replace the XP cut down version of Diskkeeper. Do you concur with this thinking, or is the XP supplied defrag sufficient? Have not tried O&O myself, my preference is Perfect Disk, which is an excellent one. I do have a strong preference for one, that like PD will consolidate free space. And in that one, unlike the inbuilt or (I think still) Diskeeper, does *not* require 15 % free space to work at all -- Alex Nichol MS MVP (Windows Technologies) Bournemouth, U.K. (remove the D8 bit) |
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Defrag question please
The lady is right. I just tested the windows lite version and got
minimal defragging. The O&O did a credible job and is a fine program, but my choice after testing was PerfectDisk. It was the only defrag I tested that allowed me an offline pass for the page file and boot files, then in Smart mode, it completely organized my entire system for optimum condition based on my individual file access. In my opinion, and I'm not an expert by any means, is that PerfectDisk is the best defrag program out there for XP specifically. The defrag went perfectly and I'm showing a perfect 0 with everything else in order as well. The system is running like a scared rabbit. It's so fast, it wants to send my email before I'm finished writing it :-))))) And just as a side note, before I even installed PerfectDisk, I called their support on their 800 number to ask a question. Their tech was extremely well versed, uncommonly polite and patient, and I ended up spending the better part of a pleasant hour with him on the phone; far and above any tech support I have seen yet for third party software. Just my opinion on this of course. Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship Commercial Pilot/CFI Retired for private email; make necessary changes between ( ) dhenriques(at)(delete all this)earthlink(dot)net "André Gulliksen" wrote in message ... Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote: I use Raxco PerfectDisk because - It will defrag with only 1% free (Windows Defrag requires 20%) That's funny. On my system Disk Defragmenter recommends 15% free space. But it will happily defrag with a lot less free space. I have no idea where you have 20% from, my guess is you're mixing up with a general concensus about recommended free space. - It can be scheduled That may be true, but I don't see the relevance since the same is also true for the Windows Disk Defragmenter. |
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André Gulliksen wrote:
Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote: I use Raxco PerfectDisk because - It will defrag with only 1% free (Windows Defrag requires 20%) That's funny. On my system Disk Defragmenter recommends 15% free space. But it will happily defrag with a lot less free space. I have no idea where you have 20% from, my guess is you're mixing up with a general concensus about recommended free space. 15, 20 - it really makes no odds. I am not making anything up - I know what I'm talking about, I've had it for five years. - It can be scheduled That may be true, but I don't see the relevance since the same is also true for the Windows Disk Defragmenter. No it's not. Prove to me how the native defrag can be scheduled without use of a third-party applet. You've not countered any of my other points, I see... -- Facon - the artificial bacon bits you get in Pizza Hut for sprinkling on salads. |
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