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Can't reinstall XP
I have an old Compaq Presario 5000 which is extremely slow. Used the disk
and instructions that came with it to reinstall XP. Unfortunatey, doesn't work. Tried five or six times. I follow the steps and at the last point that works it says "turn off computer". If I do it shuts down and that's it. Nothing else works as a response to that screen - no mouse, Enter has no effect, no menus - just a message to turn computer off. Looks like it's a defective CD? Compaq is out of business so no hope of another CD - I doubt HP cares. Any other way to reinstall XP? I understand there are XP install disks hat work on any computer, not just the specific one they came with. but I have no access to one. Any suggestions or an I just SOL? TIA -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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Can't reinstall XP
On 11 Oct 2018 17:10:06 GMT, KenK wrote:
I have an old Compaq Presario 5000 which is extremely slow. Used the disk and instructions that came with it to reinstall XP. Unfortunatey, doesn't work. Tried five or six times. I follow the steps and at the last point that works it says "turn off computer". If I do it shuts down and that's it. Nothing else works as a response to that screen - no mouse, Enter has no effect, no menus - just a message to turn computer off. Looks like it's a defective CD? Compaq is out of business so no hope of another CD - I doubt HP cares. Any other way to reinstall XP? I understand there are XP install disks hat work on any computer, not just the specific one they came with. but I have no access to one. Any suggestions or an I just SOL? TIA If it did not detect an error on the install, the disk is probably good. I would start from scratch and run some diagnostics (disk and RAM) to be sure you don't just have a hardware problem. |
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KenK wrote:
I have an old Compaq Presario 5000 which is extremely slow. Used the disk and instructions that came with it to reinstall XP. Unfortunatey, doesn't work. Tried five or six times. I follow the steps and at the last point that works it says "turn off computer". If I do it shuts down and that's it. Nothing else works as a response to that screen - no mouse, Enter has no effect, no menus - just a message to turn computer off. Looks like it's a defective CD? Compaq is out of business so no hope of another CD - I doubt HP cares. Any other way to reinstall XP? I understand there are XP install disks hat work on any computer, not just the specific one they came with. but I have no access to one. Any suggestions or an I just SOL? TIA One thing to remember, is there are different kinds of discs. A royalty OEM disc doesn't generally "install". It might "uncompress" then "copy". It's like paving. It pours a new copy of the factory set of files onto the hard drive. The other kind of disc is a conventional installer. It has an "i386" folder at the root of the WinXP disc. Doing a Properties on "i386" here, I see 6950 files and 153 folders. In that folder are two files: WINNT.EXE or WINNT32.EXE These kick off the install. If you could boot the computer with an MSDOS diskette, then execute "winnt.exe", chances are that would start an install. And the i386 folder can be copied to a hard drive. You don't need the rest of the CD. That's how I first installed my purchased copy of WinXP Sp3 here. I copied the entire i386 folder to one FAT32 partition, and a second FAT32 partition was going to be the C: drive. I booted an MSDOS floppy, executed winnt.exe in the i386 folder, and after a couple hours, the install was done. (It's slow because SmartCache on MSDOS is a bit clumsy, and purges every once in a while.) Anyway, such an install studies the dynamics of the situation, and installs the correct inbox drivers for the kind of disk controller you might have. Whereas the Compaq disc should have just the right set of drivers for that PC model. It should be a "glove fit" for the job, no ****ing around. You just pour those files in place, as no "logic" is needed when you uncompress and copy stuff. ******* You would need to look at the contents of the disc, to see what it is. A "file copy" OS, or an "installer" OS. Some of the file copy things, might use Ghost or PQService format. That sort of thing. And perhaps 7ZIP could open and examine whatever files are on there. I use 7ZIP as if it was a forensic tool - it's my "computer magnifying glass". ******* A bunch of crazy people worked at Compaq :-) They did things unlike other companies. They had a BIOS for example, where a portion (most?) of the BIOS code was stored on a hard drive. If you lost the hard drive, you had no BIOS. Which isn't how flash-based motherboards do it. On regular motherboards, the BIOS is entirely contained in a Flash chip. Don't ask me how to put the BIOS back on a hard drive for one of those, as I don't know how. So if there's a non-standard way to do something on a Compaq computer, they'd find it. If the Compaq disc has a SKU or a part number, you could try Googling that for additional breadcrumbs. Or, if you know the precise model number of the machine (there might be more than one flavor of 5000), perhaps you can find some comments in Google about what the trick was to reinstallation. ******* http://www.oem.windowsreinstall.com/...paq_XPfull.htm FULL RESTORE Set your Bios so that the first boot device is the DVD Place your restore disc one in your DVD drive. Restart or start up your computer. Select Option 4 – Factory Restore Warning screen will appear, read this and press enter to continue. System will now restore. When finished you will be prompted to reboot, remove the restore CD and press enter. The prompt you're referring to, sounds like a "win98 situation". Win98 used to say "It is now Safe To Turn Off Your PC" and you'd flip the power switch. Soft power wasn't a popular thing back then. Paul |
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On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 18:05:18 -0400, Paul
wrote: KenK wrote: I have an old Compaq Presario 5000 which is extremely slow. Used the disk and instructions that came with it to reinstall XP. Unfortunatey, doesn't work. Tried five or six times. I follow the steps and at the last point that works it says "turn off computer". If I do it shuts down and that's it. Nothing else works as a response to that screen - no mouse, Enter has no effect, no menus - just a message to turn computer off. Looks like it's a defective CD? Compaq is out of business so no hope of another CD - I doubt HP cares. Any other way to reinstall XP? I understand there are XP install disks hat work on any computer, not just the specific one they came with. but I have no access to one. Any suggestions or an I just SOL? TIA One thing to remember, is there are different kinds of discs. A royalty OEM disc doesn't generally "install". It might "uncompress" then "copy". It's like paving. It pours a new copy of the factory set of files onto the hard drive. The other kind of disc is a conventional installer. It has an "i386" folder at the root of the WinXP disc. Doing a Properties on "i386" here, I see 6950 files and 153 folders. In that folder are two files: WINNT.EXE or WINNT32.EXE These kick off the install. If you could boot the computer with an MSDOS diskette, then execute "winnt.exe", chances are that would start an install. And the i386 folder can be copied to a hard drive. You don't need the rest of the CD. That's how I first installed my purchased copy of WinXP Sp3 here. I copied the entire i386 folder to one FAT32 partition, and a second FAT32 partition was going to be the C: drive. I booted an MSDOS floppy, executed winnt.exe in the i386 folder, and after a couple hours, the install was done. (It's slow because SmartCache on MSDOS is a bit clumsy, and purges every once in a while.) Anyway, such an install studies the dynamics of the situation, and installs the correct inbox drivers for the kind of disk controller you might have. Whereas the Compaq disc should have just the right set of drivers for that PC model. It should be a "glove fit" for the job, no ****ing around. You just pour those files in place, as no "logic" is needed when you uncompress and copy stuff. ******* You would need to look at the contents of the disc, to see what it is. A "file copy" OS, or an "installer" OS. Some of the file copy things, might use Ghost or PQService format. That sort of thing. And perhaps 7ZIP could open and examine whatever files are on there. I use 7ZIP as if it was a forensic tool - it's my "computer magnifying glass". ******* A bunch of crazy people worked at Compaq :-) They did things unlike other companies. They had a BIOS for example, where a portion (most?) of the BIOS code was stored on a hard drive. If you lost the hard drive, you had no BIOS. Which isn't how flash-based motherboards do it. On regular motherboards, the BIOS is entirely contained in a Flash chip. Don't ask me how to put the BIOS back on a hard drive for one of those, as I don't know how. So if there's a non-standard way to do something on a Compaq computer, they'd find it. If the Compaq disc has a SKU or a part number, you could try Googling that for additional breadcrumbs. Or, if you know the precise model number of the machine (there might be more than one flavor of 5000), perhaps you can find some comments in Google about what the trick was to reinstallation. ******* http://www.oem.windowsreinstall.com/...paq_XPfull.htm FULL RESTORE Set your Bios so that the first boot device is the DVD Place your restore disc one in your DVD drive. Restart or start up your computer. Select Option 4 – Factory Restore Warning screen will appear, read this and press enter to continue. System will now restore. When finished you will be prompted to reboot, remove the restore CD and press enter. The prompt you're referring to, sounds like a "win98 situation". Win98 used to say "It is now Safe To Turn Off Your PC" and you'd flip the power switch. Soft power wasn't a popular thing back then. Paul The compaq disk I have is the $10 one they send you if you say you lost yours and it is a pretty generic XP SP2 load. I have used it a lot, not always on a Compaq/HP. Drivers are always the trick since what is on that disk is minimal at best. |
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The compaq disk I have is the $10 one they send you if you say you lost yours and it is a pretty generic XP SP2 load. I have used it a lot, not always on a Compaq/HP. Drivers are always the trick since what is on that disk is minimal at best. This kinda sounds like "installing" and not just copying. https://www.windowsbbs.com/threads/u...resario.42873/ The thread starter there, managed to end up with a dual-boot. And that is hardly the "Factory Restore" you associate with OEM (copying type) media. If it was a Factory Restore, it should have zapped everything on the disk before it started. And I still don't understand their reference to "BIOS returned to Defaults". Sure, on a conventional motherboard you can do a "Load Setup Defaults", "Save and Exit" to achieve such a result. Is this one of those weird Compaq BIOS setups with half the BIOS sitting on the hard drive ? Which makes it easy to trash. And the machine particulars in that example: Compaq Presario 5000 series. Model 5BW220, with A Maxtor 120Gb HDD, P-3 1.33GHz. 133MHzFSB which originally had Win ME installed. That's close to my vintage year 2000 machine. The machine likely didn't get the 120GB drive until later. And the reasons it's 120GB, is because a larger disk would be over the limit for the BIOS. My machine shipped with the 64GB drive limit, and a BIOS update extended that to 128GB (allowing a 120GB drive to be the boot drive). The larger disks weren't available right away. And my machine from back then, couldn't boot from USB. It only had USB 1.1 (too slow). It couldn't use a DVD drive (refused to issue commands to it). It could use a CD-R or a CD-RW optical drive. If you wanted to install an OS, it has to fit on CD media (ruling out modern copies of Ubuntu or Mint, but still allowing Puppy). And WinXP fits on a CD, so that one is OK. Vista+, not so much. Paul |
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Can't reinstall XP
On 11 Oct 2018 17:10:06 GMT, KenK wrote:
I have an old Compaq Presario 5000 which is extremely slow. Used the disk and instructions that came with it to reinstall XP. Unfortunatey, doesn't work. Tried five or six times. I follow the steps and at the last point that works it says "turn off computer". If I do it shuts down and that's it. Nothing else works as a response to that screen - no mouse, Enter has no effect, no menus - just a message to turn computer off. Looks like it's a defective CD? Compaq is out of business so no hope of another CD - I doubt HP cares. Any other way to reinstall XP? I understand there are XP install disks hat work on any computer, not just the specific one they came with. but I have no access to one. Any suggestions or an I just SOL? TIA Make sure the CD drive is working properly. |
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 01:57:03 +0100, ? Good Guy ?
wrote: On 20/10/2018 18:42, KenK wrote: Disk says "Compaq Recovery CD'. Instruction sheet with disk includes "Factory Resto Restores your computer to the original factory installed software state." That's the one I used. No MS logo on the disk but at the bottom there is copyright info which incluses MS Corp. The disk must have passed its shelf life. All magnetic media have a shelf life and like magnets, the data fades as time passes. The disks needs to be used at least once every 6 months to preserve its magnetic media properties. This is sometimes called "Re-charging" the disk!!!!!!!!. Now that was funny !!!!! Magnetic CDs .... Like Win 10 uploading your personal data to "keep it fresh" ? []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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