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Roll back 1903 after ten day grace period expires
Short of a reinstall, what's the easiest, quickest way to roll back 1903 after the ten day grace period expires? DISM /Online /Get-OSUninstallWindow DISM /Online /Set-OSUninstallWindow /Value:30 fails with an element not found error. Besides, Windows.old seems too sparsely populated for a feature update. TIA. Thank you, 73, -- Don Kuenz KB7RPU There was a young lady named Bright Whose speed was far faster than light; She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night. |
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Roll back 1903 after ten day grace period expires
Don Kuenz wrote:
Short of a reinstall, what's the easiest, quickest way to roll back 1903 after the ten day grace period expires? DISM /Online /Get-OSUninstallWindow DISM /Online /Set-OSUninstallWindow /Value:30 fails with an element not found error. Besides, Windows.old seems too sparsely populated for a feature update. TIA. Thank you, 73, C:\Windows.old should be around 20GB or so, if you are to have an opportunity to roll back a Windows10 Upgrade applied recently. There should be a GUI "revert" item for the purpose, but after 10 days the Windows.old can be automatically deleted, and then there is no possibility of "Revert". https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html Paul |
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Roll back 1903 after ten day grace period expires
On 02/08/2019 14:48, Don Kuenz wrote:
fails with an element not found error. Besides, Windows.old seems too sparsely populated for a feature update. Just restore from your backups if you don't like 1903 which will hound you every now and then because Microsoft servers now know that your machine is capable of running 1903. You may not know but 1909/1910 is also to be released within the next 90 days so you may want to start preparing for it NOW. Alternative is to use some junk operating system but at your age you may not want to learn anything new. Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Kuenz, KB7RPU Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Roll back 1903 after ten day grace period expires Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 13:48:28 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 19 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 13:48:28 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="57154a325f97d342d3ea77d0af2356f6"; logging-data="28393"; "; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+0hEdEIiMbv/pAabqrMcJI" Cancel-Lock: sha1:i+zM/0h76rn/+jKNB5A/DjzesOM= Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org alt.comp.os.windows-10:99633 -- With over 999 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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Roll back 1903 after ten day grace period expires
On 8/2/2019 12:56 PM, Paul wrote:
Don Kuenz wrote: Short of a reinstall, what's the easiest, quickest way to roll back 1903 after the ten day grace period expires? Â*Â*Â* DISM /Online /Get-OSUninstallWindow Â*Â*Â* DISM /Online /Set-OSUninstallWindow /Value:30 fails with an element not found error. Besides, Windows.old seems too sparsely populated for a feature update. TIA. Thank you, 73, C:\Windows.old should be around 20GB or so, if you are to have an opportunity to roll back a Windows10 Upgrade applied recently. There should be a GUI "revert" item for the purpose, but after 10 days the Windows.old can be automatically deleted, and then there is no possibility of "Revert". https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html Â*Â* Paul I have a tablet that never upgraded to 1803. After about the fourth attempt to do the install and having it fail, i gave up on 1803. I can tell you that keeping the previous version is a continuing hassle, as at every oprotunity it tries to install the upgrade. While you may not completely like 1903, the difference are not worth the continuing hassle to prevent it from upgrading. Besides if you don't upgrade you will not get the significantly improved icon that shows when the WIFI is turned off ;-) Point being there is no noticeable difference in 18003 and 1903. -- Judge your ancestors by how well they met their standards not yours. They did not know your standards, so could not try to meet them. |
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Roll back 1903 after ten day grace period expires
Paul wrote:
Don Kuenz wrote: Short of a reinstall, what's the easiest, quickest way to roll back 1903 after the ten day grace period expires? DISM /Online /Get-OSUninstallWindow DISM /Online /Set-OSUninstallWindow /Value:30 fails with an element not found error. Besides, Windows.old seems too sparsely populated for a feature update. C:\Windows.old should be around 20GB or so, if you are to have an opportunity to roll back a Windows10 Upgrade applied recently. There should be a GUI "revert" item for the purpose, but after 10 days the Windows.old can be automatically deleted, and then there is no possibility of "Revert". https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html Been there, done that. Although a half a dozen SurfacePros/laptops/PCs responded to reversion at an offsite clinic, one rogue PC remains with an expired grace period. It went offline probably due to hibernation, but it's my hunch that its C:\Windows.old is far smaller than 20GB. The pertinent software vendor promises to hot fix the problem. Until then, it'd be nice to simply mount a 1803 ISO image and do an in-place reversion/install with a couple of clicks. Thank you, 73, -- Don Kuenz KB7RPU There was a young lady named Bright Whose speed was far faster than light; She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night. |
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Roll back 1903 after ten day grace period expires
On 02/08/2019 20:23, Don Kuenz wrote:
The pertinent software vendor promises to hot fix the problem. Until then, it'd be nice to simply mount a 1803 ISO image and do an in-place reversion/install with a couple of clicks. Thank you, 73, Whoever is this pertinent software vendor, updates and upgrades for Windows 10 are distributed by a company called Microsoft. However, you are hell-bent on going back to 1803 so please do it and use it until November 12, 2019. After this date, Microsoft will push you to an upgrade and you will be hounded until you get fed up of your machine becoming sluggish and slow because the updates are still downloading or that you haven't done what you are supposed to do after each updates or upgrades. Why did you upgrade your machine to 1803 in the first place? Didn't you give a careful thought before doing this? Upgrades are regular on modern operating system that are service based so get used to this or stop using the machine completely. -- With over 999 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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Roll back 1903 after ten day grace period expires
Don Kuenz wrote:
Until then, it'd be nice to simply mount a 1803 ISO image and do an in-place reversion/install with a couple of clicks. Windows.old contained a lot more than a 1803 ISO image. Windows.old contained a lot of your own settings and stuff, so that the rollback could know how to put things back the way they were. The contents of Windows.old are automatically deleted after 10 days. The 1903 upgrade knew how to to do an in-place upgrade from 1803. The 1903 upgrade was created after 1803. A 1803 ISO image was never designed to do an in-place downgrade from 1903. It was created before 1903 existed, and it would not know all the changes to be put back. If there were an in-place downgrade from 1903 to 1803, you would need a separate program for it. You would get such a separate program from Microsoft. Microsoft has little or no incentive to provide a *free* such program to let you downgrade. You might need to go to Microsoft with the same kind of money that Uncle Sam did to get continued XP support. Yes there is a 10 day rollback, but it exists for people who found the 1903 upgrade was incompatible with their hardware or software. These people are expected to find this out within 10 days, before the contents of Windows.old are automatically deleted. And the 10 day rollback relies on your stuff in Windows.old which is not in the ISO image. |
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Roll back 1903 after ten day grace period expires
Andy Raffir wrote:
Don Kuenz wrote: Until then, it'd be nice to simply mount a 1803 ISO image and do an in-place reversion/install with a couple of clicks. Windows.old contained a lot more than a 1803 ISO image. Windows.old contained a lot of your own settings and stuff, so that the rollback could know how to put things back the way they were. The contents of Windows.old are automatically deleted after 10 days. The 1903 upgrade knew how to to do an in-place upgrade from 1803. The 1903 upgrade was created after 1803. A 1803 ISO image was never designed to do an in-place downgrade from 1903. It was created before 1903 existed, and it would not know all the changes to be put back. If there were an in-place downgrade from 1903 to 1803, you would need a separate program for it. You would get such a separate program from Microsoft. Microsoft has little or no incentive to provide a *free* such program to let you downgrade. You might need to go to Microsoft with the same kind of money that Uncle Sam did to get continued XP support. Yes there is a 10 day rollback, but it exists for people who found the 1903 upgrade was incompatible with their hardware or software. These people are expected to find this out within 10 days, before the contents of Windows.old are automatically deleted. And the 10 day rollback relies on your stuff in Windows.old which is not in the ISO image. This procedure looks looks promising: Manually Downgrade to an older release of Windows 10: If its been more than 10 days since upgraded, you will need to manually downgrade to your previous version of Windows 10. Step 1: Download Windows 10 1607 - see instructions in the following article how download and create a bootable copy: Windows 10 Creators Update Version 1703 ISO Files Now Available for Download NOTE: If you need to downgrade to earlier versions of Windows 10 such as 1511 or 1507, see instructions how to obtain those versions: How to Download ISO Files or Reinstall Files for Older Versions of Windows 10 Step 2: Perform a custom install: * How to: Perform a custom installation of Windows Step 3: Block the Creators Update and future releases from automatically installing: How to Block a Windows 10 Feature Update and Why You Might Need To With Windows 10, it seems Microsoft has listened and has provided a welcome option to its recovery tools to make it easy to uninstall Windows 10 and go back to your previous version of Windows. This option can be handy for diagnostics purposes, trial and error or to simply go back to a previous version of Windows that works better with your PC. Please keep in mind, this only works with Windows 7 and later. Because prior versions of Windows such as Windows Vista and Windows XP can only migrate to Windows 10 through a custom install, the command line operations remain your best choice if you do decide to go back. Also keep in mind, if you do a custom install over Windows 7 or later, the Rollback option is not available. This only works if you had done an in place upgrade from Windows 7 or later. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...8-64a226302657 Thank you, 73, -- Don Kuenz KB7RPU There was a young lady named Bright Whose speed was far faster than light; She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night. |
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Roll back 1903 after ten day grace period expires
On 02/08/2019 21:27, Andy Raffir wrote:
Yes there is a 10 day rollback, but it exists for people who found the 1903 upgrade was incompatible with their hardware or software. These people are expected to find this out within 10 days, before the contents of Windows.old are automatically deleted. And the 10 day rollback relies on your stuff in Windows.old which is not in the ISO image. Where th **** did you get this 10 days time period. I have a machine that has still got Windows.old since 30/05/2019. Are you looking for a job with CNN to spread fake news? If the answer is yes then you are in the wrong place. CNN HR don't hang around here. A nym-shifter names such as Andy Raffir or Don Kuenz is the first sign that we have been scammed. They are both the same people posting under different names. [ alt-no ] https://i.imgur.com/8w9mmTW.png Path: news.mixmin.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.net cologne.de!peer02.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xl ned.com!peer03.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx25.am4.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Andy Raffir Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Roll back 1903 after ten day grace period expires Message-ID: References: Lines: 32 X-Complaints-To: http://abuse.usenetxs.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 22:27:47 UTC Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 20:27:18 -0000 X-Received-Bytes: 2049 X-Received-Body-CRC: 1274760727 Xref: news.mixmin.net alt.comp.os.windows-10:90467 Path: news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Kuenz, KB7RPU Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Roll back 1903 after ten day grace period expires Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 23:16:17 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 82 Message-ID: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 23:16:17 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="cf9c7afbd1233406fbda36d7a6201d4b"; logging-data="25077"; "; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+BrsBLv2zxpbh1+++ngI2d" Cancel-Lock: sha1:ihYzVr+lqPxj6JCHLlz4N7I0hAo= Xref: news.mixmin.net alt.comp.os.windows-10:90471 -- With over 999 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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Roll back 1903 after ten day grace period expires
On 03/08/2019 00:16, Don Kuenz wrote:
Andy Raffir wrote: Don Can you just **** off. You are a known nym-shifter whose previous name was Arlen ****er Holden or whatever it was at that time. -- With over 999 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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Roll back 1903 after ten day grace period expires
Don Kuenz wrote:
Andy Raffir wrote: Don Kuenz wrote: Until then, it'd be nice to simply mount a 1803 ISO image and do an in-place reversion/install with a couple of clicks. Windows.old contained a lot more than a 1803 ISO image. Windows.old contained a lot of your own settings and stuff, so that the rollback could know how to put things back the way they were. The contents of Windows.old are automatically deleted after 10 days. The 1903 upgrade knew how to to do an in-place upgrade from 1803. The 1903 upgrade was created after 1803. A 1803 ISO image was never designed to do an in-place downgrade from 1903. It was created before 1903 existed, and it would not know all the changes to be put back. If there were an in-place downgrade from 1903 to 1803, you would need a separate program for it. You would get such a separate program from Microsoft. Microsoft has little or no incentive to provide a *free* such program to let you downgrade. You might need to go to Microsoft with the same kind of money that Uncle Sam did to get continued XP support. Yes there is a 10 day rollback, but it exists for people who found the 1903 upgrade was incompatible with their hardware or software. These people are expected to find this out within 10 days, before the contents of Windows.old are automatically deleted. And the 10 day rollback relies on your stuff in Windows.old which is not in the ISO image. This procedure looks looks promising: Manually Downgrade to an older release of Windows 10: If its been more than 10 days since upgraded, you will need to manually downgrade to your previous version of Windows 10. Step 1: Download Windows 10 1607 - see instructions in the following article how download and create a bootable copy: Windows 10 Creators Update Version 1703 ISO Files Now Available for Download NOTE: If you need to downgrade to earlier versions of Windows 10 such as 1511 or 1507, see instructions how to obtain those versions: How to Download ISO Files or Reinstall Files for Older Versions of Windows 10 Step 2: Perform a custom install: * How to: Perform a custom installation of Windows Step 3: Block the Creators Update and future releases from automatically installing: How to Block a Windows 10 Feature Update and Why You Might Need To With Windows 10, it seems Microsoft has listened and has provided a welcome option to its recovery tools to make it easy to uninstall Windows 10 and go back to your previous version of Windows. This option can be handy for diagnostics purposes, trial and error or to simply go back to a previous version of Windows that works better with your PC. Please keep in mind, this only works with Windows 7 and later. Because prior versions of Windows such as Windows Vista and Windows XP can only migrate to Windows 10 through a custom install, the command line operations remain your best choice if you do decide to go back. Also keep in mind, if you do a custom install over Windows 7 or later, the Rollback option is not available. This only works if you had done an in place upgrade from Windows 7 or later. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...8-64a226302657 Thank you, 73, I hate to spoil a great plan, but Microsoft could have a surprise waiting for you. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...5-026661f5c66d This is why we do backups here, with products like Macrium Reflect Free. There are a couple other products available, which do the same and are free as well. We pretty well expect 1903 to 1903 to work (a Repair Install). Or 1809 to 1903 to work (an Upgrade Install). Going backwards is a crapshoot. The upgrade advisor logic will indicate your "fate". You can use Heidoc if you need older media. https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/techno...-download-tool Since it didn't respond for me, I used an archived copy of Heidoc from yesterday. https://web.archive.org/web/20190802...-download-tool What the Heidoc tool does, is generate a Microsoft URL so you can get media. The file does not come from the Heidoc site. It comes from a Microsoft site or a Microsoft CDN (content distribution network). Paul |
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Roll back 1903 after ten day grace period expires
Paul wrote:
snap I hate to spoil a great plan, but Microsoft could have a surprise waiting for you. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...5-026661f5c66d This is why we do backups here, with products like Macrium Reflect Free. There are a couple other products available, which do the same and are free as well. We pretty well expect 1903 to 1903 to work (a Repair Install). Or 1809 to 1903 to work (an Upgrade Install). Going backwards is a crapshoot. The upgrade advisor logic will indicate your "fate". You can use Heidoc if you need older media. https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/techno...-download-tool Since it didn't respond for me, I used an archived copy of Heidoc from yesterday. https://web.archive.org/web/20190802...-download-tool What the Heidoc tool does, is generate a Microsoft URL so you can get media. The file does not come from the Heidoc site. It comes from a Microsoft site or a Microsoft CDN (content distribution network). Lots of good information at your link. Fortunately, the SurfacePros, laptops, and PCs at this particular client's clinic primary run Electronic Medical Records fat binaries. User data resides on separate servers. So, it's OK to flatten and reinstall the client workstations with impunity. The Location of User Folders points to a handy server for the relatively few power users. Thank you, 73, -- Don Kuenz KB7RPU There was a young lady named Bright Whose speed was far faster than light; She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night. Thank you, 73, -- Don Kuenz KB7RPU There was a young lady named Bright Whose speed was far faster than light; She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night. |
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Roll back 1903 after ten day grace period expires
Don Kuenz, KB7RPU wrote:
Short of a reinstall, what's the easiest, quickest way to roll back 1903 Since you easily made backups using Macrium Reflect, you just restore one of your backups? Another solution is to stop frivolously upgrading your operating system and use this Windows option... Windows Update Advanced options Choose when updates are installed Semi-Annual Channel (NOT "Targeted") Stop messing around with your operating system, especially if you don't know enough to have backups. |
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Roll back 1903 after ten day grace period expires
John Doe wrote:
Don Kuenz, KB7RPU wrote: Short of a reinstall, what's the easiest, quickest way to roll back 1903 Since you easily made backups using Macrium Reflect, you just restore one of your backups? Another solution is to stop frivolously upgrading your operating system and use this Windows option... Windows Update Advanced options Choose when updates are installed Semi-Annual Channel (NOT "Targeted") Stop messing around with your operating system, especially if you don't know enough to have backups. How many operating systems have you created, hot shot? |
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Roll back 1903 after ten day grace period expires
Comparing this troll's posting history to its most recent comments
to me is interesting... -- The Man in the High Castle nospaming nospam.com wrote: Path: not-for-mail From: The Man in the High Castle nospaming nospam.com Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Roll back 1903 after ten day grace period expires Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 15:41:16 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 20 Message-ID: qi6n9r$aa9$3 dont-email.me References: 20190802a crcomp.net qi6n7a$9vn$2 dont-email.me Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 13:41:15 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="13d1945ed8e6a8d356c6b0552af91eed"; logging-data="10569"; mail-complaints-to="abuse eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX199ojIUFccrNygML0z0RC4U" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 Cancel-Lock: sha1:ezCVBhz1Rivo3UIO5RlijiNimi4= In-Reply-To: qi6n7a$9vn$2 dont-email.me X-Received-Bytes: 1951 X-Received-Body-CRC: 919845793 John Doe wrote: Don Kuenz, KB7RPU g crcomp.net wrote: Short of a reinstall, what's the easiest, quickest way to roll back 1903 Since you easily made backups using Macrium Reflect, you just restore one of your backups? Another solution is to stop frivolously upgrading your operating system and use this Windows option... Windows Update Advanced options Choose when updates are installed Semi-Annual Channel (NOT "Targeted") Stop messing around with your operating system, especially if you don't know enough to have backups. How many operating systems have you created, hot shot? |
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