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Old March 21st 19, 02:02 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Walter Boyd
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Advice please. I have a 27" monitor which connects only via HDMI. My PC
has an NVIDIA GTX 750 2GB video card with mini-HDMI, DVI-I, and DVI-D
adapters. What's my best option for an adapter to connect the two with
the least (if any) performance hit? -Walt
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Old March 21st 19, 02:19 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Walter Boyd wrote:
Advice please. I have a 27" monitor which connects only via HDMI. My PC
has an NVIDIA GTX 750 2GB video card with mini-HDMI, DVI-I, and DVI-D
adapters. What's my best option for an adapter to connect the two with
the least (if any) performance hit?


HDMI. The mini has the same number of pins as regular but smaller and
with a different pin arrangement. 'Regular' HDMI plug is called type A
and mini is type C in the wp article which also describes the pins.
They make cables which are A-C, or if you already have an 'A-A' cable
there are A-C adapters.

This amazon ad page which shows both happens to show it a little cheaper
to buy the whole cable than the adapter

https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters.../dp/B004PW1XRS

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Old March 21st 19, 02:25 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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In article , Walter Boyd
wrote:

Advice please. I have a 27" monitor which connects only via HDMI. My PC
has an NVIDIA GTX 750 2GB video card with mini-HDMI, DVI-I, and DVI-D
adapters. What's my best option for an adapter to connect the two with
the least (if any) performance hit? -Walt


either a mini-hdmi to hdmi or dvi to hdmi adapter. zero performance hit
and they're dirt cheap (buck or two).
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Old March 21st 19, 02:44 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Walter Boyd wrote:
My PC has an NVIDIA GTX 750 2GB video card with mini-HDMI, DVI-I, and
DVI-D adapters


I'm looking at a pic of that card to see if it is really mini.

https://www.geforce.com/sites/defaul...-750-front.png

You're right. NVIdia says: One Dual Link DVI-I, One Dual Link DVI-D,
One mini-HDMI

I see discussions of people asking 'Why?' (not hdmi). Some of those
discussions say the oem included an adapter in the package.

One answer said that by the time they put those DVIs there wasn't 'room'
for a regular hdmi which is just a few mm more, but those mm/s make a
difference.

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Old March 21st 19, 03:35 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 3/20/2019 9:44 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
Walter Boyd wrote:
My PC has an NVIDIA GTX 750 2GB video card with mini-HDMI, DVI-I, and
DVI-D adapters


I'm looking at a pic of that card to see if it is really mini.

https://www.geforce.com/sites/defaul...-750-front.png

You're right. NVIdia says:* One Dual Link DVI-I, One Dual Link DVI-D,
One mini-HDMI

I see discussions of people asking 'Why?' (not hdmi).* Some of those
discussions say the oem included an adapter in the package.

One answer said that by the time they put those DVIs there wasn't 'room'
for a regular hdmi which is just a few mm more, but those mm/s make a
difference.

Looking at the card in the flesh, there is not a mm to spare... I vote
for the 'room' answer. Thanks. -Walt
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Old March 21st 19, 05:35 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Walter Boyd wrote:
Advice please. I have a 27" monitor which connects only via HDMI. My PC
has an NVIDIA GTX 750 2GB video card with mini-HDMI, DVI-I, and DVI-D
adapters. What's my best option for an adapter to connect the two with
the least (if any) performance hit? -Walt


The HDMI is still your best bet.

That card might be HDMI 1.4, but the NVidia site isn't giving
away the info about it. Some other models, they're a bit more
forthcoming about that aspect.

It should be able to do 2560x1600 @ 60Hz at least. Some of the
other modes are "theater modes". It will do higher resolutions
at 30Hz or 24Hz, and those aren't options for working in
Microsoft Word. 30Hz and 24Hz are excellent for videos playing
at those movie rates, as it means no "pulldown" step when
driving the screen.

The DVI will also do that value, assuming it is dual lane (DL-DVI).

*******

Just for giggles, the most kickass 27" panel in a quick search,
is this one. 5120 x 2880 , which would be well outside the HDMI
standard your card likely has. This is why it helps to know
the Make and Model Number of the LCD monitor. The 3840 x 2160 (4K)
monitors would similarly, not be a good match for your video
card and its choice of HDMI standard. You might end up using
a non-native resolution choice if driving this with GTX 750.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIAFJ86WT2207

There are also 2560x1440 (2K) and 1920x1080 monitors at the 27" diagonal
size, and HDMI and DVI could handle both of those.

There is a table here, 50% of the way down this page,
which relates HDMI standards number versus resolution/refresh.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

The only thing I have against HDMI, is the lack of a positive
retention feature (cable lock). Some early HDMIs had a tendency
to fall out. I haven't had a problem with the one I've tested
here so far. The DisplayPort, by comparison, has a plastic
"release" button, implying there is a lock feature. I have
to depress that, before I can remove the cable from the card.
I use active adapters from those two standards, to run the real
monitors. I also own multiple active adapters, so when the
video driver goes nuts in a certain OS, I can keep plugging
in different adapters until I get a picture, then bring up
the Display panel and "fix it again". Grrr. This happens
coming out of Sleep, amongst other things.

If you see a black screen coming out of Sleep, try moving
the monitor to another connector, because there is a chance
the signal is coming out on that. And that's what I'm doing,
when I switch active (powered) adapters, is "looking for where
my damn screen went". The impedance and EDID capabilities of
the hardware, are supposed to make an end to this behavior.
Yet, there we are, looking at a black screen, when a session
I was working in, is hiding under there.

Paul
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Old March 21st 19, 05:48 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Paul wrote:
Walter Boyd wrote:
Advice please. I have a 27" monitor which connects only via HDMI. My
PC has an NVIDIA GTX 750 2GB video card with mini-HDMI, DVI-I, and
DVI-D adapters. What's my best option for an adapter to connect the
two with the least (if any) performance hit? -Walt


The cable would be male to male. And you can get cables, where
the two ends are different. This has mini on one end, and regular
on the other end.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA6ZP3K31553

Doing it using one of these, might lead to a looser fit.
Too much stuff jiggling around. To work with the prevalent male
to male cables, these adapters are male on one end, and female
on the other.

"Rocstor HDMI to Mini HDMI"

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA6ZP8U88234

Paul
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Old March 21st 19, 06:04 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 3/21/2019 12:35 AM, Paul wrote:
Walter Boyd wrote:
Advice please. I have a 27" monitor which connects only via HDMI. My
PC has an NVIDIA GTX 750 2GB video card with mini-HDMI, DVI-I, and
DVI-D adapters. What's my best option for an adapter to connect the
two with the least (if any) performance hit?* -Walt


The HDMI is still your best bet.

That card might be HDMI 1.4, but the NVidia site isn't giving
away the info about it. Some other models, they're a bit more
forthcoming about that aspect.

It should be able to do 2560x1600 @ 60Hz at least. Some of the
other modes are "theater modes". It will do higher resolutions
at 30Hz or 24Hz, and those aren't options for working in
Microsoft Word. 30Hz and 24Hz are excellent for videos playing
at those movie rates, as it means no "pulldown" step when
driving the screen.

The DVI will also do that value, assuming it is dual lane (DL-DVI).

*******

Just for giggles, the most kickass 27" panel in a quick search,
is this one. 5120 x 2880 , which would be well outside the HDMI
standard your card likely has. This is why it helps to know
the Make and Model Number of the LCD monitor. The 3840 x 2160 (4K)
monitors would similarly, not be a good match for your video
card and its choice of HDMI standard. You might end up using
a non-native resolution choice if driving this with GTX 750.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIAFJ86WT2207

There are also 2560x1440 (2K) and 1920x1080 monitors at the 27" diagonal
size, and HDMI and DVI could handle both of those.

There is a table here, 50% of the way down this page,
which relates HDMI standards number versus resolution/refresh.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

The only thing I have against HDMI, is the lack of a positive
retention feature (cable lock). Some early HDMIs had a tendency
to fall out. I haven't had a problem with the one I've tested
here so far. The DisplayPort, by comparison, has a plastic
"release" button, implying there is a lock feature. I have
to depress that, before I can remove the cable from the card.
I use active adapters from those two standards, to run the real
monitors. I also own multiple active adapters, so when the
video driver goes nuts in a certain OS, I can keep plugging
in different adapters until I get a picture, then bring up
the Display panel and "fix it again". Grrr. This happens
coming out of Sleep, amongst other things.

If you see a black screen coming out of Sleep, try moving
the monitor to another connector, because there is a chance
the signal is coming out on that. And that's what I'm doing,
when I switch active (powered) adapters, is "looking for where
my damn screen went". The impedance and EDID capabilities of
the hardware, are supposed to make an end to this behavior.
Yet, there we are, looking at a black screen, when a session
I was working in, is hiding under there.

** Paul

Thanks. That's a lot to digest but it will be interesting to see how it
shakes out...
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Old March 21st 19, 06:49 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Walter Boyd wrote:

Thanks. That's a lot to digest but it will be interesting to see how it
shakes out...


Is your HDMI screen an exotic one, or a more
ordinary one ?

See if the box mentions native resolution value.

If the monitor has DL-DVI on it, I suppose that's
a hint it is an ordinary monitor.

An "extreme monitor" with a high native resolution,
might use only (two) HDMI or a DisplayPort.

The Wikipedia article on DVI, tells you how far single link
DVI goes, and how far dual link DVI goes. The "appearance"
of dual link, a full array of DVI pins, does not "guarantee"
the hardware is dual link. But if the Display control panel
has already shown 2560x1600 operation at 60Hz, there's a good
chance the DVI uses is DL-DVI.

The Wikipedia HDMI article has a table half way down
the page, that defines a few data points for HDMI operation.
Occasionally, a little interpolation is required, to work
out what other values might work.

For example, I see an entry like this. Maybe I own a
2560x1600 monitor at 60Hz. Will it work ?

2560 × 1440 75Hz 7.09 Gbit/s

I note that since the refresh rate I will be using is lower,
that gives more headroom on resolution.

1440 * 75/60 = 1600

which means 2560x1600 @ 60Hz refresh, would also be 7.09Gbit/sec.

Paul
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Old March 21st 19, 01:16 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 3/20/19 10:19 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
Walter Boyd wrote:
Advice please. I have a 27" monitor which connects only via HDMI. My
PC has an NVIDIA GTX 750 2GB video card with mini-HDMI, DVI-I, and
DVI-D adapters. What's my best option for an adapter to connect the
two with the least (if any) performance hit?


HDMI.* The mini has the same number of pins as regular but smaller and
with a different pin arrangement.* 'Regular' HDMI plug is called type A
and mini is type C in the wp article which also describes the pins. They
make cables which are A-C, or if you already have an 'A-A' cable there
are A-C adapters.

This amazon ad page which shows both happens to show it a little cheaper
to buy the whole cable than the adapter

https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters.../dp/B004PW1XRS

Monoprice has the adapters for $.89
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=3653
and a cable mini to std 6ft for $3.59
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=3645
Much better prices on cables.

I'd buy the adapter though. That way you can buy or use current cables.

Al
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Old March 21st 19, 04:05 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 2019-03-21, Walter Boyd wrote:
Advice please. I have a 27" monitor which connects only via HDMI. My PC
has an NVIDIA GTX 750 2GB video card with mini-HDMI, DVI-I, and DVI-D
adapters. What's my best option for an adapter to connect the two with
the least (if any) performance hit? -Walt


A vote for the mini-HDMI to HDMI cable. It is like using a usb cable
with micro usb & usb-A or usb-c to usb-A; just plug it in.

Also for some strange reason a tablet might come out with a mini-HDMI
port like what I had with my 1st tablet, an ole ACER, which had the
mini-HDMI port.
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Old March 21st 19, 04:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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lew wrote:
On 2019-03-21, Walter Boyd wrote:
Advice please. I have a 27" monitor which connects only via HDMI. My PC
has an NVIDIA GTX 750 2GB video card with mini-HDMI, DVI-I, and DVI-D
adapters. What's my best option for an adapter to connect the two with
the least (if any) performance hit? -Walt


A vote for the mini-HDMI to HDMI cable. It is like using a usb cable
with micro usb & usb-A or usb-c to usb-A; just plug it in.

Also for some strange reason a tablet might come out with a mini-HDMI
port like what I had with my 1st tablet, an ole ACER, which had the
mini-HDMI port.


I vote for the DVI to HDMI for the very practical reason of mechanical
strain relief. One little tug and that very small jack...

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Take care,

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