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  #31  
Old February 15th 18, 12:25 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Tim[_10_]
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Default Why can't Microsoft display folder size?

Zaidy036 wrote in news
On 2/12/2018 8:42 PM, Ron C wrote:
On 2/12/2018 8:22 PM, Zaidy036 wrote:
On 2/12/2018 8:14 PM, Zaidy036 wrote:
On 2/12/2018 2:48 PM, Ron C wrote:
On 2/12/2018 2:19 PM, Big Al wrote:
On 2/12/2018 1:30 PM, Ron C wrote:
On 2/12/2018 12:00 PM, ...winston wrote:
"John Doe"* wrote in message news
Please refresh my memory...
Why is the file manager so lame it cannot display folder size?
Thanks, I will feel better knowing why...

Removed for resource reasons beginning with Vista.
- disappearing initially during the Vista beta as classified as
design intent for the above reasons
- i.e. memory wise - the ability has* been missing for about 11
yrs.

That being said, if one configures File Explorer to 'Display
file size information in folder tips' and 'Show pop-up
description for folder and desktop items' then placing the
cursor on the folder, waiting for the popup, will show the
folder size for some folders but not others. i.e. it's not
perfect but apparently the most Windows, itself, will provide.

However there's no provision for sorting folders by size to aid
in resource management. :-(

Try https://www.jam-software.com/treesize_free/* Tree Size Free.
Does an excellent job of allowing you to browse folders, and it
sorts by size as a default.

Install and just right click a folder and if it was integrated
into explorer with a shell extension, you'll see "open with
treesizefree" as an option.**** This feature may be default or
set by user in the program IIRC.

I've had treesizefree for some time. I also have SequoiaView. What
I miss
is something like foldersize that works in explorer rather than
needing a
stand-alone app.
[YMMV]
==
FileMenuTools is another free program with various options
including folder size:
https://www.lopesoft.com/index.php/en/download/filemenu-tools

Folder Size is another option:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/foldersize/?source=navbar

As I recall that program/add-on didn't work for anything after XP.
Has it been updated to work in explorer with newer Win versions?

Opens an additional window with info

Just right-click on any folder and select properties. Among the things
shown will be the actual file size of all the files in the folder, the
size as taken up on the media (larger due to sector blocking), and the
number of files/folders within this folder. Not quite as quick as just
hovering over the folder, but the info is a pop-up so it stays after the
mouse moves on. I find that useful when I want to make sure that all the
contents of a folder I have moved made it safely there.
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Old February 15th 18, 12:31 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Paul wrote in news

Would you prefer if a services as annoying as
Windows Indexer did the math for you continuously ?
That would be similar to what a third party implementation
could do. Or use the same approach Everything.exe uses.
Namely, do an initial scan of a volume, then hook
the USN Journal and listen for every "CreateFile"
and "DeleteFile" to correct the totals (in a
hierarchical fashion). A lot of these tools
use similar approaches. Even Windows Defender hooks
stuff like this, which is why there are so many
"gobbling" sounds ever time you touch a folder.
Just yesterday for example, I was trying to run
hashdeep on C: in Windows 10 and it wasn't
going very fast. Why ? Windows Defender was trying
to scan every file hashdeep touched. Doubling the
I/O calls. I switched off Windows Defender realtime
and went back to work.

Thanks for this info. It tells me why Windows seems to be so slow when
copying/moving a set of files/folders from one location to another. What I
am inferring is that turning off Windows Defender before doing so will
speed up the copy/move until I run into the actual physical limits of the
hardware, assuming the CPU cycles are available.
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Old February 15th 18, 01:02 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Why can't Microsoft display folder size?

Tim wrote:
Paul wrote in news
Would you prefer if a services as annoying as
Windows Indexer did the math for you continuously ?
That would be similar to what a third party implementation
could do. Or use the same approach Everything.exe uses.
Namely, do an initial scan of a volume, then hook
the USN Journal and listen for every "CreateFile"
and "DeleteFile" to correct the totals (in a
hierarchical fashion). A lot of these tools
use similar approaches. Even Windows Defender hooks
stuff like this, which is why there are so many
"gobbling" sounds ever time you touch a folder.
Just yesterday for example, I was trying to run
hashdeep on C: in Windows 10 and it wasn't
going very fast. Why ? Windows Defender was trying
to scan every file hashdeep touched. Doubling the
I/O calls. I switched off Windows Defender realtime
and went back to work.

Thanks for this info. It tells me why Windows seems to be so slow when
copying/moving a set of files/folders from one location to another. What I
am inferring is that turning off Windows Defender before doing so will
speed up the copy/move until I run into the actual physical limits of the
hardware, assuming the CPU cycles are available.


You can certainly try.

In an Administrator Powershell window, this turns off Defender RealTime.

Set-MpPreference -DisableRealtimeMonitoring 1

Setting that to "0" turns it back on again.

Since Powershell keeps a command history you can
access with the up-arrow and down-arrow key,
you don't have to keep typing the two commands in to
use them. I can page back into the history to find
an instance of the command, then hit return. I think
this is modeled after "tcsh" of the old days. I think
it had a feature like that. Some shells also have command
completion, where you can hit "tab" when a word is only
half-typed, and it will fill out the rest. I'm more
likely to test shells for History (with the up-arrow or
down-arrow buttons) than other shell features, because
there's less chance it will foul up.

Paul
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Old February 15th 18, 02:48 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Why can't Microsoft display folder size?

dadiOH wrote:


"JT" wrote in message
news
dadiOH wrote:


"John Doe" wrote in message
news wrote:

"T" wrote
John Doe wrote:

Please refresh my memory...

Why is the file manager so lame it cannot display folder
size?

Right click on it and select "properties" at the bottom.

Or just look at the status bar.

Huh? I am looking at the status bar, it says...

"11 items, 1 item selected"

See mine...
https://imgur.com/a/lddtK

It shows the size of the files within the selected folder but does
not recurse folders within the folder.


dadiOH,


It looks like you have "Classic Shell" installed.

Do you?


Yep


Thanks! It's "Classis Shell" that provides the extra info in the

Explorer Status bar. Windows 10 out of the box does NOT show the 87.0KB

that your Red Arrow points to.

Perhaps that is what OP needs?

JT

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Old February 15th 18, 02:02 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Why can't Microsoft display folder size?


"JT" wrote in message
news
dadiOH wrote:


"JT" wrote in message
news
dadiOH wrote:


"John Doe" wrote in message
news wrote:

"T" wrote
John Doe wrote:

Please refresh my memory...

Why is the file manager so lame it cannot display folder
size?

Right click on it and select "properties" at the bottom.

Or just look at the status bar.

Huh? I am looking at the status bar, it says...

"11 items, 1 item selected"

See mine...
https://imgur.com/a/lddtK

It shows the size of the files within the selected folder but does
not recurse folders within the folder.

dadiOH,


It looks like you have "Classic Shell" installed.

Do you?


Yep


Thanks! It's "Classis Shell" that provides the extra info in the

Explorer Status bar. Windows 10 out of the box does NOT show the 87.0KB

that your Red Arrow points to.

Perhaps that is what OP needs?


I just turned Classic Shell off, the status bar still shows total sizes of
files - files, not folders - within a selected folder/


  #36  
Old February 16th 18, 03:08 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
JT[_6_]
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Default Why can't Microsoft display folder size?

dadiOH wrote:


"JT" wrote in message
news
dadiOH wrote:


"JT" wrote in message
news dadiOH wrote:


"John Doe" wrote in message
news wrote:

"T" wrote
John Doe wrote:

Please refresh my memory...

Why is the file manager so lame it cannot display folder
size?

Right click on it and select "properties" at the bottom.

Or just look at the status bar.

Huh? I am looking at the status bar, it says...

"11 items, 1 item selected"

See mine...
https://imgur.com/a/lddtK

It shows the size of the files within the selected folder but

does not recurse folders within the folder.

dadiOH,


It looks like you have "Classic Shell" installed.

Do you?

Yep


Thanks! It's "Classis Shell" that provides the extra info in the

Explorer Status bar. Windows 10 out of the box does NOT show the
87.0KB

that your Red Arrow points to.

Perhaps that is what OP needs?


I just turned Classic Shell off, the status bar still shows total
sizes of files - files, not folders - within a selected folder/


Yup! Win10 will show file info but not folder info in the

Explorer Status bar

Not a huge deal but the OP was looking for it...

JT

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