Next version of Windows is...

Windows 10

http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/30/m...=rss_truncated

Seth wrote:
Windows 10


http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/30/m...=rss_truncated

Ho hum. Interesting that the images of Windows 10 contradict the written
content...

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Seth sethNOSPAM NOSPAMclcpro.com wrote:

Windows 10

http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/30/m...=rss_truncated

Microsoft needs to stop trying to harness the ultraportable PC
business and start innovating in the desktop PC business.

The glaring example is speech. Ultraportable PCs (like smartphones
and tablets) already have better built-in speech capabilities than
Windows does.

If Google and Nuance port speech recognition and control to Linux,
I'm out of here.

Trying to use Microsoft's Windows Speech Recognition (WSR) or Dragon
NaturallySpeaking (DNS) for dictation and control is becoming a
nightmare. Windows 8 has a few nice features that I like, like fully
functional Aero window previews from the taskbar when using a high
contrast color scheme, but it's killing my speech.

"John Doe" wrote in message
...

Microsoft needs to stop trying to harness the ultraportable PC
business and start innovating in the desktop PC business.

Retailers do not nowadays sell enough new desktops to constitute a
market big enough to attract MS.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

"Don Phillipson" wrote:

"John Doe" wrote

Microsoft needs to stop trying to harness the ultraportable PC
business and start innovating in the desktop PC business.

Retailers do not nowadays sell enough new desktops to constitute
a market big enough to attract MS.

From what I can see, looks like they sell approximately the same
number as always. But like I said, Microsoft doesn't innovate, it
does just enough to keep its stranglehold on desktop computer
software. I submit that's part of the problem with PC sales. Of
course tablets would have come along anyway, but Microsoft could
help the PC technology if it were an innovator instead of just a
monopoly holder. More people would be buying PCs. You can bet that
PC sales will drop just before Microsoft is pushed out of the
business and another conglomerate takes over.

Microsoft has made more than enough money off of the personal
computer market to make personal computers into a lot more than
they are today. Apparently many big corporate leaders have
forgotten how capitalism is supposed to be, they have forgotten
that it involves reinvesting the money.

"John Doe" wrote in message
...
"Don Phillipson" wrote:

"John Doe" wrote

Microsoft needs to stop trying to harness the ultraportable PC
business and start innovating in the desktop PC business.

Retailers do not nowadays sell enough new desktops to constitute
a market big enough to attract MS.

From what I can see, looks like they sell approximately the same
number as always.

All local indicators suggest laptops far outsell desktops nowadays
(not to mention also tablets.)

. . . Apparently many big corporate leaders have
forgotten how capitalism is supposed to be, they have forgotten
that it involves reinvesting the money.

This may be true of "capitalism" but is not uniformly so for
people. Most people with investments either (a) cash them
in so as to enjoy spending the proceeds, or (b) bequeathe
them to other people who may make their own decisions
(whether to invest or enjoy.) The general system of capitalism
does indeed "involve" reinvesting, but capital does not by itself.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

On 10/1/14 7:31 AM, Don Phillipson wrote:
"John Doe" wrote in message
...
"Don Phillipson" wrote:

"John Doe" wrote

Microsoft needs to stop trying to harness the ultraportable PC
business and start innovating in the desktop PC business.

Retailers do not nowadays sell enough new desktops to constitute
a market big enough to attract MS.

From what I can see, looks like they sell approximately the same
number as always.

All local indicators suggest laptops far outsell desktops nowadays
(not to mention also tablets.)

Just a thought on my part, but with the increasing size and power of
laptops, perhaps laptops and desktops should be lumped together for a
conversation like this. And to me, the Surface seems to be moving
towards being more of a laptop than a tablet.

. . . Apparently many big corporate leaders have
forgotten how capitalism is supposed to be, they have forgotten
that it involves reinvesting the money.

This may be true of "capitalism" but is not uniformly so for
people. Most people with investments either (a) cash them
in so as to enjoy spending the proceeds, or (b) bequeathe
them to other people who may make their own decisions
(whether to invest or enjoy.) The general system of capitalism
does indeed "involve" reinvesting, but capital does not by itself.



--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 25.0
Thunderbird 24.6.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

Yeah I know that reinvesting is not a requirement. I wasn't
talking about requirements. I was talking about the way the system
is supposed to work. Our country has become an oligarchy. And
obviously there are filthy rich people who have more money than
their descendents will ever spend. Those same people have not
reinvested enough of the money they have sucked from the rest of
us.

It's like the old saying about cleaning your own house before you
clean others. Microsoft could do (or could have done) some really
great stuff with the personal computer instead of just sucking
monopoly profits from the people. It wants to monopolize
ultraportable computers too. If you own a tablet, you can see the
innovation taking place that's nonexistent on the desktop.
Nobody (except maybe the government) is going to give Microsoft the
same chance to dumb-down tablets like it has done with the PC.

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"Don Phillipson" e925 SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca wrote:

"John Doe" always.look message.header wrote

Microsoft needs to stop trying to harness the ultraportable PC
business and start innovating in the desktop PC business.

Retailers do not nowadays sell enough new desktops to constitute
a market big enough to attract MS.

From what I can see, looks like they sell approximately the same
number as always.

All local indicators suggest laptops far outsell desktops nowadays
(not to mention also tablets.)

. . . Apparently many big corporate leaders have
forgotten how capitalism is supposed to be, they have forgotten
that it involves reinvesting the money.

This may be true of "capitalism" but is not uniformly so for
people. Most people with investments either (a) cash them
in so as to enjoy spending the proceeds, or (b) bequeathe
them to other people who may make their own decisions
(whether to invest or enjoy.) The general system of capitalism
does indeed "involve" reinvesting, but capital does not by itself.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

On Wed, 1 Oct 2014 09:31:15 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
wrote:


All local indicators suggest laptops far outsell desktops nowadays
(not to mention also tablets.)


Leaving aside tablets, which are very different from desktops or
laptops, if laptops outsell desktops, I think it's crazy. As far as
I'm concerned, almost the only situation when a laptop should be used
instead of a desktop is when traveling, because it's smaller and
lighter, and therefore easier to carry. In all other respects, a
laptop is inferior to a desktop:

It's more expensive to buy
It's less upgradable
Replacement parts or upgraded parts are move expensive to buy
Doing replacement or upgrading is harder and often requires a
serviceman
It's more likely to have problems, since it can easily be dropped
and broken
It's more expensive to repair
It's more easily stolen
The keyboard is smaller and harder to use
The monitor is smaller and harder to see

Probably other things too, but those are the ones that come to my mind
quickly.

On 10/01/2014 12:50 AM, The Other Guy wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 20:14:16 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
wrote:

"John Doe" wrote in message
...

Microsoft needs to stop trying to harness the ultraportable PC
business and start innovating in the desktop PC business.

Retailers do not nowadays sell enough new desktops to constitute a
market big enough to attract MS.

They SHOULD have gone with the trend, and called it Windows Plus,
instead of just a number.






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Oh yes, please, Windows Plus Pro and Windows Plus Ultimate and Windows
Plus Home and maybe and Windows Plus Minus.

"Seth" wrote in message ...
Windows 10

http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/30/m...=rss_truncated

Here's a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NI5fjTfpQ

On 30/09/2014 18:27, Seth wrote:
Windows 10

http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/30/m...=rss_truncated


Officially here also:

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2014/09/30/announcing-windows-10/

Keep Linux Junkies guessing.

Seth wrote:
Windows 10

http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/30/m...=rss_truncated

I'm guessing the "Windows 10" is to compete with "MacOSX".
And that means all future OSes will be 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, etc.
Maybe it's acknowledgment of a "subscription future". I would
not accept a naive rationale for why it is "10". There is
some evil in that choice, which we'll have to wait and see.
This was not a "9 stinks as a number" decision. It has
some other meaning.

For Apple, the break from MacOS 9 to MacOSX, was a transition
from cooperative multitasking to pre-emptive multitasking. It
was a change worthy of a new name (as pre-emptive is not
crash prone like co-operative was). In the case of Microsoft,
the transition from 8 to 10 involves no new technologies
(I've seen no ground breaking announcements), so this is
hardly a comparable naming exercise. Microsoft had pre-emptive
multitasking for a lot longer than Apple. And before them,
probably some Unix kernel. But for Apple, their rewrite of the
OS was a turning point, from the "toy OS" that was MacOS 9.
MacOS 6 through 9 were still very nice, but "they crashed too much".
It used to crash once a day for me, on average. It's
where the notion of "do frequent saves" came from.
You're on a Mac. The MacOSX machine here, doesn't
have that problem (not that I use it much any more).

Paul

On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 00:47:29 -0400, Paul wrote:

I'm guessing the "Windows 10" is to compete with "MacOSX".
And that means all future OSes will be 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, etc.
Maybe it's acknowledgment of a "subscription future". I would
not accept a naive rationale for why it is "10". There is
some evil in that choice, which we'll have to wait and see.
This was not a "9 stinks as a number" decision. It has
some other meaning.

Well, the number spoken English does sound like the German word for
"no", and marketing people do take heed of things like that. Anyway,
why should Microsoft feel the need to compete with something that only
has about 10% of the market?

Rod.