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On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 1:32:52 AM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote:
On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 1:26:33 AM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote: Seems like it worked: http://i66.tinypic.com/20z5vyb.jpg Thanks Robert It seems we've resolved the yellow triangle problem. However regarding the MITM; do you think I should switch to another A/V because when I switched off the Avast shield and did the test my license came out the same as yours. What do you think? Robert I ran the Smart scan again because that's where all this started: http://i67.tinypic.com/sfyt52.jpg So although the yellow triangle is gone I still have issues. Is this indicative of the MITM problem? Thoughts/Suggestions? Robert |
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Robert and Paul,
any chance you could take this one to email? I appreciate the argument that it might benefit others, but I think this one has got very case-specific. Not only that, you're exposing your settings to a wider audience, which might not be beneficial (plus, by email, you could attach the screenshots or whatever, rather than having to use imgur or whatever, which must be faster). Regards, John -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "You _are_ Zaphod Beeblebrox? _The_ Zaphod Beeblebrox?" "No, just _a_ Zaphod Beeblebrox. I come in six-packs." (from the link episode) |
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With regards to J.P. Gilliver's recommendation I have no problem with it., Does Google give you my email? or do you need me to give it to you? Whatever you decide is fie with me, Robert |
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On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 5:47:40 AM UTC-7, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Robert and Paul, any chance you could take this one to email? I appreciate the argument that it might benefit others, but I think this one has got very case-specific. Not only that, you're exposing your settings to a wider audience, which might not be beneficial (plus, by email, you could attach the screenshots or whatever, rather than having to use imgur or whatever, which must be faster). Regards, John -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "You _are_ Zaphod Beeblebrox? _The_ Zaphod Beeblebrox?" "No, just _a_ Zaphod Beeblebrox. I come in six-packs." (from the link episode) Point taken, Thanks, Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote:
On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 1:32:52 AM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote: On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 1:26:33 AM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote: Seems like it worked: http://i66.tinypic.com/20z5vyb.jpg Thanks Robert It seems we've resolved the yellow triangle problem. However regarding the MITM; do you think I should switch to another A/V because when I switched off the Avast shield and did the test my license came out the same as yours. What do you think? Robert I ran the Smart scan again because that's where all this started: http://i67.tinypic.com/sfyt52.jpg So although the yellow triangle is gone I still have issues. Is this indicative of the MITM problem? Thoughts/Suggestions? Robert I don't know why your posts were slow getting here, I'm just seeing them now. It looks like the USB3 install worked. You might get better backup speed now, you never know. ******* I'm not convinced the three Avast items are actionable. Windows 10 has a feature where you can set it up so that only certain applications have access to "3 primary folders". When Avast shows such a line with the red X, it means they want you to turn on one of their shields. That's usually how it works. What the first line of defense would do, is if a malware got on the machine, with a name like abcdefgh.exe and it wanted to write into your "Downloads" folder, a folder guard could stop it. Perhaps only Microsoft Office programs are allowed to write in the folder. Using an interface, you program the folder guard, so it allows Office programs and denies any other program. The abcdefgh.exe program is stopped in its tracks. It's hard to say though, how much malware is "lame" enough to be fooled by such a scheme. It would stop me... but it won't stop a Black Hat. ******* And a basic firewall is fine. The Firewall will put up an alert if a "new program" attempts to contact the outside world. So you will be alerted. Just because Avast puts up the alert instead, would not particularly add value. ******* You may be vulnerable to fake websites, but the Avast mechanism implemented as an Avast MITM, of injecting their own certificates, is not such a great idea. Now we have to balance the possibility of fake stuff, versus the possibility of someone exploiting the Avast weakness added. Which is worse ? I don't know. I don't know enough about the sum total of DNS hijack mechanisms, to give advice on the topic. It's not something that keeps me awake at night, but it probably should... DNS really needs to be redesigned (and think just how hard that would be to do, without collateral damage). Then main benefit of Avast, is the three green check boxes at the top of the display. The "scareware" presented at the end, is mainly self-promotional. And some things can't really be fixed with 100% certainty, even if the Avast feature was switched on. Paul |
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Robert in CA wrote:
On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 1:33:04 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 9:55:28 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 12:59:34 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: I installed it but it came back with this: http://i65.tinypic.com/20i7uax.jpg Robert OK, go back to the top folder level, and give this a try. Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \ setup.exe === I missed that the first time, in my rush to find "any file with 1E31 in it". I was primarily concentrating on seeing whether the driver had any chance of matching your hardware or not. HTH, Paul I tried it . http://i68.tinypic.com/2w3uqvq.jpg Robert OK, the key to this step, is examining what File Explorer is telling you. That line in your picture, that you selected. Does the Type column say "Zip file" or does it say "Folder" ? If it says "Zip file", *then* the right-click menu will have 7Zip : Open Archive If the Type field says "Folder", then it's just a regular folder. If you were to highlight a regular folder, 7ZIP assumes you want to make an archive file out of the folder. That's why it offers 7Zip : Add to Archive because it assumes you want to go in the opposite direction. When you click on a "File", that's when you get Open Archive. When you click on a "Folder", you get "Add To Archive". Two different context menus are offered, and they are context sensitive. ******* If that item is a folder by that name, open it and see if a Setup.exe is in there. Paul I opened it : http://i65.tinypic.com/sgswlx.jpg http://i66.tinypic.com/mrux3p.jpg === Aha! Setup.exe is in here. http://i64.tinypic.com/vdnvrr.jpg http://i67.tinypic.com/35mozdx.jpg http://i67.tinypic.com/35mozdx.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/dn14dt.jpg Robert Now, let's look at mine. Here is a picture of my second folder picture (equivalent), with *file extensions turned on* ! https://i.postimg.cc/wjTw0cvR/file-e...extensions.gif That makes it easier to see the "Setup.exe" at the top level of the folder. Paul So I'm not infected? Since we have the same license? or is the article wrong? Here's mine: I un-ticked a few more to try and match yours. Also I had to change the blue button. Mine was selected to 'don't show hidden files,...' http://i68.tinypic.com/24nqp2h.jpg Robert The purpose of adjusting the hidden extension one, is so you can see setup.exe and you know the file is executable. It's a better way than relying on the "Type" column instead. ******* No, I don't think you're infected. ******* As for email, I don't as a rule give out my email address. I did that once... and it was a mistake. The newsgroup is a fine place to keep things. I don't even check my email every day - imagine how slow the response would be :-) Paul |
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On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 11:27:28 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 1:33:04 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 9:55:28 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 12:59:34 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: I installed it but it came back with this: http://i65.tinypic.com/20i7uax.jpg Robert OK, go back to the top folder level, and give this a try. Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \ setup.exe === I missed that the first time, in my rush to find "any file with 1E31 in it". I was primarily concentrating on seeing whether the driver had any chance of matching your hardware or not. HTH, Paul I tried it . http://i68.tinypic.com/2w3uqvq.jpg Robert OK, the key to this step, is examining what File Explorer is telling you. That line in your picture, that you selected. Does the Type column say "Zip file" or does it say "Folder" ? If it says "Zip file", *then* the right-click menu will have 7Zip : Open Archive If the Type field says "Folder", then it's just a regular folder. If you were to highlight a regular folder, 7ZIP assumes you want to make an archive file out of the folder. That's why it offers 7Zip : Add to Archive because it assumes you want to go in the opposite direction. When you click on a "File", that's when you get Open Archive. When you click on a "Folder", you get "Add To Archive". Two different context menus are offered, and they are context sensitive. ******* If that item is a folder by that name, open it and see if a Setup.exe is in there. Paul I opened it : http://i65.tinypic.com/sgswlx.jpg http://i66.tinypic.com/mrux3p.jpg === Aha! Setup.exe is in here. http://i64.tinypic.com/vdnvrr.jpg http://i67.tinypic.com/35mozdx.jpg http://i67.tinypic.com/35mozdx.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/dn14dt.jpg Robert Now, let's look at mine. Here is a picture of my second folder picture (equivalent), with *file extensions turned on* ! https://i.postimg.cc/wjTw0cvR/file-e...extensions.gif That makes it easier to see the "Setup.exe" at the top level of the folder. Paul So I'm not infected? Since we have the same license? or is the article wrong? Here's mine: I un-ticked a few more to try and match yours. Also I had to change the blue button. Mine was selected to 'don't show hidden files,...' http://i68.tinypic.com/24nqp2h.jpg Robert The purpose of adjusting the hidden extension one, is so you can see setup.exe and you know the file is executable. It's a better way than relying on the "Type" column instead. ******* No, I don't think you're infected. ******* As for email, I don't as a rule give out my email address. I did that once... and it was a mistake. The newsgroup is a fine place to keep things. I don't even check my email every day - imagine how slow the response would be :-) Paul So were Ok and the problems resolved? Then we can move on to getting the Windows10 key as soon as the D VD-R's arrive. On that topic,. should we consider also adding Linux, Ubuntu/Unix or another OS? One that you consider better or more secure than Win 10? Now that we have everything 'clean' and working again should I make a Mrimg and do a System Restore point? I agree with you about the mail. Many Thanks for your help, Robert Robert |
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On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 11:20:47 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 1:32:52 AM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote: On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 1:26:33 AM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote: Seems like it worked: http://i66.tinypic.com/20z5vyb.jpg Thanks Robert It seems we've resolved the yellow triangle problem. However regarding the MITM; do you think I should switch to another A/V because when I switched off the Avast shield and did the test my license came out the same as yours. What do you think? Robert I ran the Smart scan again because that's where all this started: http://i67.tinypic.com/sfyt52.jpg So although the yellow triangle is gone I still have issues. Is this indicative of the MITM problem? Thoughts/Suggestions? Robert I don't know why your posts were slow getting here, I'm just seeing them now. It looks like the USB3 install worked. You might get better backup speed now, you never know. ******* I'm not convinced the three Avast items are actionable. Windows 10 has a feature where you can set it up so that only certain applications have access to "3 primary folders". When Avast shows such a line with the red X, it means they want you to turn on one of their shields. That's usually how it works. What the first line of defense would do, is if a malware got on the machine, with a name like abcdefgh.exe and it wanted to write into your "Downloads" folder, a folder guard could stop it. Perhaps only Microsoft Office programs are allowed to write in the folder. Using an interface, you program the folder guard, so it allows Office programs and denies any other program. The abcdefgh.exe program is stopped in its tracks. It's hard to say though, how much malware is "lame" enough to be fooled by such a scheme. It would stop me... but it won't stop a Black Hat. ******* And a basic firewall is fine. The Firewall will put up an alert if a "new program" attempts to contact the outside world. So you will be alerted. Just because Avast puts up the alert instead, would not particularly add value. ******* You may be vulnerable to fake websites, but the Avast mechanism implemented as an Avast MITM, of injecting their own certificates, is not such a great idea. Now we have to balance the possibility of fake stuff, versus the possibility of someone exploiting the Avast weakness added. Which is worse ? I don't know. I don't know enough about the sum total of DNS hijack mechanisms, to give advice on the topic. It's not something that keeps me awake at night, but it probably should... DNS really needs to be redesigned (and think just how hard that would be to do, without collateral damage). Then main benefit of Avast, is the three green check boxes at the top of the display. The "scareware" presented at the end, is mainly self-promotional. And some things can't really be fixed with 100% certainty, even if the Avast feature was switched on. Paul I checked the license again http://i67.tinypic.com/300sjrc.jpg Thanks, Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote:
So were Ok and the problems resolved? Then we can move on to getting the Windows10 key as soon as the D VD-R's arrive. On that topic,. should we consider also adding Linux, Ubuntu/Unix or another OS? One that you consider better or more secure than Win 10? Now that we have everything 'clean' and working again should I make a Mrimg and do a System Restore point? I agree with you about the mail. Many Thanks for your help, Robert Robert The best install sequence for mixed OSes, is oldest Windows first, then Linux next. So you don't have to worry about Linux at this point. It comes second. If you want to install multiple OSes, this is the best order. WinXP-Vista-W7-W8-W8.1-W10-UbuntuLinux-MintLinux- ... The Linux boot loader will put the Windows OSes in its boot menu. ******* A good time to backup, is any time a meritorious result has been achieved. Now that the XPS8500 USB3 port is all fixed up, you'll be able to see if the backup goes faster or not. ******* The XPS 8500 likely has the Windows 7 COA sticker on the outside. You could take a spare disk drive and do a clean Win10 install, then enter the Windows 7 key (if it doesn't see the SLIC activation itself). The 780, which is a refurb, likely has no COA stick. We could in that case, clone the existing 780 image to the spare disk (wiping out the copy of Windows 10 from the disk), and then run the Setup.exe off the DVD while Windows 7 is running. In each case, we do a status check to see that the OS says it is activated. As long as it says it is activated, the Windows 10 license key for the machine is now stored on the Microsoft server. After that, the original Windows 7 drives can be put back in their respective computers, as if nothing happened. The spare drive can be erased. There's no point keeping the installs or backing them up, because our method is "whatever works" and we're not trying to make a "good" install here. Just get the license key for now, so it will be waiting for us, and there won't be a lot of sweat later trying to get a key before the "free upgrade" disappears completely. Because you are always using the spare disk for the Win10 work, there is no danger to the original disk. The original disk should be unplugged while this work is done. ******* One objective of this exercise is to take "tiny steps" first, without becoming mired down in details. ******* You can make a Ubuntu or a Mint DVD any time you want (when you get your supply of blank media). That's if you want to boot the DVD disc and see what all the fuss is about. It really depends on how serious you are about this idea, as to whether it's worthwhile wasting a DVD-R on such an exercise. Fixing stuff on Linux can be a lot more of a challenge than on Windows. Some versions of Linux look more like Windows menus, than others. https://distrowatch.com/images/slinks/xubuntu.png (closer) https://distrowatch.com/images/slinks/lubuntu.png (not so close, more like a smartphone) https://distrowatch.com/images/slinks/ubuntu.png No version is perfect. I'm always finding various kinds of bugs, like one disc I tried, the screen stayed black, and the usual techniques didn't get me a terminal. I think that one took "nomodeset" on the kernel boot line, before my video card would "play nice". Since the video card is just the right age to be properly supported, I was just a bit surprised at the outcome. I've had some versions boot up and the network didn't work. There is a bit of selection work to do before proceeding. I test a lot of these Linux things, in a virtual machine, as that way I don't need to waste a DVD on one. In fact, some of them, I evaluate them, and if they won't boot inside the VM, then I don't ever put them on a DVD (as a reward). Paul |
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Robert in CA wrote:
I checked the license again http://i67.tinypic.com/300sjrc.jpg Thanks, Robert It doesn't look like shenanigans are happening there. That's not a license by the way. The certificate system is a way of (attempting to) prove a site is what it claims to be. It's a trust system. It's not a license. Imagine you're at a corner store, and you want to use your credit card, and the clerk says "I'll need to see some ID". Meaning, your drivers license perhaps. The license has a picture and some details that could be matched to the credit card. The drivers license in that case, functions like one of these certificates that you're checking with that "lock-shaped" symbol. The purpose of https, is to carry out a transaction, such that no third party can "see" the details. But as well, before giving your credit card number, the certificate details help assure that the web site is what you think it is. Certificates can be remotely revoked, and a lot of the time, the certificates are checked against OCSP. So if a security problem is detected with a certificate or a certain series of certificates, it can be revoked, and a certificate used that is still trusted. Your OS receives Windows Updates with certificates for the certificate store. In addition, when you get a browser upgrade, that's another opportunity for the browser collection to be updated as required. Paul |
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In message , Paul
writes: Robert in CA wrote: So were Ok and the problems resolved? Then we can move on to getting the Windows10 key as soon as the D VD-R's arrive. On that topic,. should we consider also adding Linux, Ubuntu/Unix or another OS? One that you consider better or more secure than Win 10? Now that we have everything 'clean' and working again should I make a Mrimg and do a System Restore point? I would say yes. (See Paul below.) [] A good time to backup, is any time a meritorious result has been achieved. And before doing something you think has a good chance of screwing the system. Now that the XPS8500 USB3 port is all fixed up, you'll be able to see if the backup goes faster or not. Presumably that's (a) assuming he's using a USB-based external drive to store images on and (b) that he's making the .mrimg from within a running Windows. Do later Macrium CDs have universal USB3 drivers like Windows 10 does? (Or does that to some extent depend on the version of Windows that's on the machine where you make the Macrium CD?) [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Corrupt politicians make the other 10% look bad." |
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So were Ok and the problems resolved? Then we can move on to getting the Windows10 key as soon as the D VD-R's arrive. On that topic,. should we consider also adding Linux, Ubuntu/Unix or another OS? One that you consider better or more secure than Win 10? Now that we have everything 'clean' and working again should I make a Mrimg and do a System Restore point? I would say yes. (See Paul below.) [] A good time to backup, is any time a meritorious result has been achieved. And before doing something you think has a good chance of screwing the system. Now that the XPS8500 USB3 port is all fixed up, you'll be able to see if the backup goes faster or not. Presumably that's (a) assuming he's using a USB-based external drive to store images on and (b) that he's making the .mrimg from within a running Windows. Do later Macrium CDs have universal USB3 drivers like Windows 10 does? (Or does that to some extent depend on the version of Windows that's on the machine where you make the Macrium CD?) [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Corrupt politicians make the other 10% look bad." I do Mrimg backups once a month and it just happens it's time to do one. For Mrimgs I follow Paul's instructions he gave me awhile back. Thanks, Robert |
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On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 3:37:38 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: I checked the license again http://i67.tinypic.com/300sjrc.jpg Thanks, Robert It doesn't look like shenanigans are happening there. That's not a license by the way. The certificate system is a way of (attempting to) prove a site is what it claims to be. It's a trust system. It's not a license. Imagine you're at a corner store, and you want to use your credit card, and the clerk says "I'll need to see some ID". Meaning, your drivers license perhaps. The license has a picture and some details that could be matched to the credit card. The drivers license in that case, functions like one of these certificates that you're checking with that "lock-shaped" symbol. The purpose of https, is to carry out a transaction, such that no third party can "see" the details. But as well, before giving your credit card number, the certificate details help assure that the web site is what you think it is. Certificates can be remotely revoked, and a lot of the time, the certificates are checked against OCSP. So if a security problem is detected with a certificate or a certain series of certificates, it can be revoked, and a certificate used that is still trusted. Your OS receives Windows Updates with certificates for the certificate store. In addition, when you get a browser upgrade, that's another opportunity for the browser collection to be updated as required. Paul There are sticker's on both the 8500 and 780 although I don't know if they are COA's We'll tackle getting the key when the DVD-R's arrive. So that's not a certificate then what is it? I assume I'm still OK? Is there a way of checking if my certificate is OK? This popped up yesterday after I loaded the drivers and I ran it as part of the procedure but it came back today: http://i63.tinypic.com/2d19wg1.jpg Robert |
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul writes: Robert in CA wrote: So were Ok and the problems resolved? Then we can move on to getting the Windows10 key as soon as the D VD-R's arrive. On that topic,. should we consider also adding Linux, Ubuntu/Unix or another OS? One that you consider better or more secure than Win 10? Now that we have everything 'clean' and working again should I make a Mrimg and do a System Restore point? I would say yes. (See Paul below.) [] A good time to backup, is any time a meritorious result has been achieved. And before doing something you think has a good chance of screwing the system. Now that the XPS8500 USB3 port is all fixed up, you'll be able to see if the backup goes faster or not. Presumably that's (a) assuming he's using a USB-based external drive to store images on and (b) that he's making the .mrimg from within a running Windows. Do later Macrium CDs have universal USB3 drivers like Windows 10 does? (Or does that to some extent depend on the version of Windows that's on the machine where you make the Macrium CD?) [] Well, actually, the Macrium approach is interesting. They've made a change to how the emergency CDs are made. The CD preparation used to use a WADK kit, downloaded from Microsoft. There were four different versions. The versions correspond to OS versions, as Microsoft has different (better) built-in drivers in the newer versions. (The reason four versions exist, is WinXP users of Macrium, can only use the oldest version of kit as the others would not work for them. That's why there are four versions. Microsoft has ruined the download set for the WinXP users, such that a WinXP user *today* cannot make emergency boot media via Macrium.) You can still use those four versions. Those options still exist. (Even if one option now is damaged by Microsoft. Only some of the necessary files went missing!) However, a fifth option is for the preparation scheme to extract a WinPE off the drive with C: on it. They have a search algorithm for locating a .wim they can make a CD from. When I tested it, *it grabbed the wrong file* and the results were hilarious. It mixed 64 bit materials with 32 bit materials, and when the CD was booted, the software would not run (because there would be subsystems missing). In effect, it was running 64-bit macrium.exe on a 32-bit WinPE OS. When preparing your emergency CD under those particular conditions, you want *only* the Win10 drive to be connected while the emergency disc is being made. Alternately, there is a preferences screen, where you can review the potential sources of a .wim and disable certain disks as sources. But, you only figure that part out, after it's too late, and you've ruined a CD making a bad one. The best approach, is to make sure you've selected the WinPE version (Win8 or Win10) that have the built-in USB3 driver, as that's a better choice when you want the performance benefits of full USB3 operation. Stick with the old method, select WinPE10 (as long as your operating system will allow the WADK kit to run from that version selection). It's getting to the point, it's hard for me to write a tutorial with all these details covered off properly :-/ Paul |
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There are sticker's on both the 8500 and 780 although I don't know if they are COA's We'll tackle getting the key when the DVD-R's arrive. So that's not a certificate then what is it? I assume I'm still OK? Is there a way of checking if my certificate is OK? This popped up yesterday after I loaded the drivers and I ran it as part of the procedure but it came back today: http://i63.tinypic.com/2d19wg1.jpg Robert Usually the browser will warn if there's a problem with the trust tree of the certificate scheme. If a certificate has expired, the browser will usually warn you, and ask you what you want to do. If you see the green lock symbol, that probably means as far as the browser can see, the certificate is OK. Now, if Avast was enabled, it could be fooling the browser logic. And that's why your check, and seeing the "correct agent" is reported under the lock symbol, indicates there is no systematic problem caused by the Avast interference. Any further problems, the browser should tell you. ******* Your picture (2d19wg1.jpg), is interesting. The USB3 driver consists of two parts. There is the driver portion, which makes the port work. Drivers run in Ring0 and normally don't have permission problems. But, the USB3MON executable, is used to make a tray notification dialog in the lower right corner. It has to be elevated, as it's dealing with hardware and drivers. What the USB3MON prints on the screen is "This device could go faster, if you plugged it into a USB3 port". That's the kind of message it delivers. In other words, having the monitor run, isn't really necessary. If you plug a blue-cable device into a blue port, then everything should work and the USB3MON would be unnecessary. It's for naive people who don't know what USB3 is, and that their computer has two port types, and the peripherals come in USB2 and USB3 types. The message the USB3MON gives, is to help people plug the blue-cable devices into the blue port. Now, you probably installed that driver using your administrator-group account. If there was a tick box to "install for all users", perhaps the elevation would be handled correctly. The reason that message is showing now, is you're using your Limited User account (using it for safety reasons), and the USB3MON is not getting elevated as normal. To stop that, you can use any "startup item adjusting tool", such as Autoruns. Perhaps msconfig could also do it (but you have to be careful to not enable any other functions in msconfig). https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sys...loads/autoruns It's a graphical program. You let it display everything (the default). Try and locate the USB3MON item, if it is labeled properly, and untick it. That may be enough, when Autoruns is run under your Limited User account, to stop it. After Autoruns has unticked the box, you should never see that prompt to elevate again. *But*, if you re-install the Intel USB3 driver, the same situation could arise again, and you would need to use Autoruns again to remove it. The Autoruns settings do not "persist against all odds". Any code with the capability to "put stuff back", will undo what Autoruns has done. I don't run Limited User here, so my experience with it is "limited" :-) Just a guess, Paul |
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