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Old March 9th 18, 03:35 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Do you have an iOS device? How to get it to xfer screenshots to Windows 10 easily without that iTunes abomination?

I just picked up a new 128GB Wi-Fi iPad from Costco for $300.
http://i.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg

What I'd like to do is transfer screenshots and photos from the iPad to
Windows 10 as easily as Android does that task over either USB
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Or over WiFi, without ever putting /anything/ on Windows.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Do you have an iOS device connected to Windows such that you can easily
transfer files over WiFi or USB without adding /anything/ to Windows (like
we do with Android)?
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Old March 9th 18, 06:24 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Do you have an iOS device? How to get it to xfer screenshotsto Windows 10 easily without that iTunes abomination?

ultred ragnusen wrote:
I just picked up a new 128GB Wi-Fi iPad from Costco for $300.
http://i.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg

What I'd like to do is transfer screenshots and photos from the iPad to
Windows 10 as easily as Android does that task over either USB
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Or over WiFi, without ever putting /anything/ on Windows.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Do you have an iOS device connected to Windows such that you can easily
transfer files over WiFi or USB without adding /anything/ to Windows (like
we do with Android)?


https://www.howtogeek.com/191378/how...ad-and-iphone/

Access a Shared Folder on iOS

[Windows serves, IOS client is third party "FileExplorer Free"]

I don't see anything to suggest AirDrop works on the Windows side.
And any iCloud garbage, is probably trapped there too.

You can always email a file to yourself. For fast service,
set up an email server in your home, eliminating external
transit and processing times.

If the equipment supports removable media, sneakernet
might be an option.

Paul
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Old March 9th 18, 08:50 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Do you have an iOS device? How to get it to xfer screenshots to Windows 10 easily without that iTunes abomination?

ultred ragnusen wrote:

I just picked up a new 128GB Wi-Fi iPad from Costco for $300.
http://i.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg


Congratulations.

What I'd like to do is transfer screenshots and photos from the iPad to
Windows 10 as easily as Android does that task over either USB
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Or over WiFi, without ever putting /anything/ on Windows.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Do you have an iOS device connected to Windows such that you can easily
transfer files over WiFi or USB without adding /anything/ to Windows (like
we do with Android)?


Reminds me of my experience with an iPhone.
That is the worst part, being unable to easily transfer files between an
Apple device and a PC. Every other consumer product in the world shares files
with a PC via a USB cable.
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Old March 9th 18, 10:36 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Do you have an iOS device? How to get it to xfer screenshots to Windows 10 easily without that iTunes abomination?

On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 03:35:13 +0000 (UTC), ultred ragnusen wrote:

I just picked up a new 128GB Wi-Fi iPad from Costco for $300.
http://i.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg

What I'd like to do is transfer screenshots and photos from the
iPad to Windows 10 as easily as Android does that task over
either USB http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg


Or over WiFi, without ever putting /anything/ on Windows.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg


Do you have an iOS device connected to Windows such that you can
easily transfer files over WiFi or USB without adding /anything/
to Windows (like we do with Android)?


Dropbox.
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Old March 9th 18, 05:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Do you have an iOS device? How to get it to xfer screenshots to Windows 10 easily without that iTunes abomination?

Paul wrote:

I don't see anything to suggest AirDrop works on the Windows side.
And any iCloud garbage, is probably trapped there too.


Thanks Paul for checking to see if AirDrop9tm) brand of ad-hoc
file-transfer services works with Windows or Linux (aka the real world),
but I doubt it, just as I know that the abomination that is iTunes doesn't
work on Linux (aka outside the walled garden).

For the record, I found a workable solution with only a few false starts
with obnoxious ad-ware programs on iOS and even worse, file-size or
file-number restricted solutions, where I came up with this freeware
solution that I don't think is restricted.

Here's my summary for the tribal knowledge archives...
http://i.cubeupload.com/aiCDCT.jpg

Q: How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over Wi-Fi LAN?
A: Install the freeware Simple Transfer app on the iPad.
http://rambax.com/simpletransfer

I'm setting up the simplest way to transfer movies, photos, & screenshots
from a new iOS 11.x iPad to both Windows & Linux over the Wi-Fi LAN without
installing anything on the Windows/Linux desktop

For many good reasons, not the least of which is that the iTunes
abomination doesn't work in the real world, this method will not employ the
abomination that is iTunes, nor can it use the vaunted AirDrop(tm) brand of
ad-hoc file-transfer services because that vaunted AirDrop(tm) brand of
ad-hoc file-transfer services also does not work in the real world.

Here's the first solution that worked well.

1. I installed the free unrestricted (AFAIK) "Simple Transfer -
Photo+Video", by Rambax, LLC
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/simp...eo/id420821506
where you can transfer your photos & videos as a single archive file
to/from Linux/Windows using a web browser pointed to
http://simpletransfer.rambax.com
which is on your local LAN (e.g., http://192.168.1.14).
http://i.cubeupload.com/aiCDCT.jpg

2. To copy photo/video files from the iPad to Linux/Windows, this "Simple
Transfer" app worked on iOS 11 and has various switches to make selection
and filtering easy, with the result being a single "All Photos.zip" file on
your Windows or Linux desktop without needing to install anything on the
Windows or Linux desktop.

3. To copy photo/video files from Linux/Windows to the iPad over the WiFi
LAN, I slid the files from the desktop onto the open browser above and they
copied over to the iPad with a message on the iPad popping up saying it
"Received test_photo.jpg".

I'll try a few other methods, but this method works nicely and, far better
than iTunes or that vaunted AirDrop(tm) brand of ad-hoc file services, it
actually works in the real world (aka it works outside the walled garden).

In summary,
Q: What is one way to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over Wi-Fi LAN?
A: Install the unrestricted (AFAIK) freeware Simple Transfer app on the iPad.
http://rambax.com/simpletransfer
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Old March 9th 18, 05:41 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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John Doe wrote:

Reminds me of my experience with an iPhone.
That is the worst part, being unable to easily transfer files between an
Apple device and a PC. Every other consumer product in the world shares files
with a PC via a USB cable.


Since this is a new iOS 11.1.2 iPad on a new Windows 10 installation, I
decided to first try the USB method that works so well with Android.
http://i.cubeupload.com/OgSZr1.jpg

When I plugged the iOS 11.1.2 device into Windows 10 Creator's Edition,
up popped a series of three bottom-right notifications.
- Setting up a device. We're setting up 'iPad'.
- Apple iPad. Select to choose what happens with this device.
- Device is ready. 'Apple iPad' is set up and ready to go.

When I doubleclicked on the PC, a new "Apple iPad" showed up under "Devices
and Drives", which shows an empty "109GB free of 119GB" on the iPad.\

The iPad popped up a message "Allow this device to access photos and
videos", to which I selected "Allow".
http://i.cubeupload.com/ZIG92A.jpg

Then a single iPad "DCIM" directory showed in the Windows File Explorer.
PC Apple iPad Internal Storage DCIM

That single directory contained a small set of image files on the iPad.
PC Apple iPad Internal Storage DCIM 100APPLE IMG_0001.PNG

I could easily slide those iPad photo/video files to Windows over USB:
http://i.cubeupload.com/bDuiA6.jpg

Unfortunately, the reverse doesn't work.

When you slide a Windows image onto this DCIM folder, nothing happens.

So at the moment, I'm not sure if the USB method is only one way, or if
there is a trick to be able to put files from Windows to iOS over USB using
this method.
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Old March 9th 18, 05:52 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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mechanic wrote:

Dropbox.


Just to point out the obvious - it's utterly insane to be forced to put
your data on the Internet just to do something as trivially simple as
transfer files from your own personal mobile device to and from your own
personal Windows/Linux desktops.

The solutions we come up with for Windows 10 should work for iOS over USB &
WiFi just as the Android solutions already do.
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Old March 9th 18, 10:16 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 17:52:04 +0000 (UTC), ultred ragnusen wrote:

mechanic wrote:

Dropbox.


Just to point out the obvious - it's utterly insane to be forced
to put your data on the Internet just to do something as
trivially simple as transfer files from your own personal mobile
device to and from your own personal Windows/Linux desktops.


It works.
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Old March 9th 18, 10:37 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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mechanic wrote:

Just to point out the obvious - it's utterly insane to be forced
to put your data on the Internet just to do something as
trivially simple as transfer files from your own personal mobile
device to and from your own personal Windows/Linux desktops.


It works.


Appreciating your suggestion, I agree with you that /lots/ of methods might
work - including using the Internet to move a file the six inches from the
device on the table to the desktop on that same table.

This question is looking for a /good/ (or even best) method.

For example, just think of how long it would take though, to bring this
entire movie, from Windows or Linux to the iOS, or back from iOS to
Windows/Linux given a typical size for movies of about a DVD size for each
movie.
http://i.cubeupload.com/t6ybUj.jpg

While I found a few methods that work to transfer files to and from Windows
and the iOS device via both USB & Wi-Fi over the LAN, I'm testing these out
as we speak to see if I can find the best ones.
http://i.cubeupload.com/UfHkAH.jpg

As an example, that screenshot was brought over by just clicking in Windows
to slide the screenshot from the iOS device to Windows over USB.
http://i.cubeupload.com/cHaOMs.jpg
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Old March 10th 18, 12:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 22:37:33 +0000 (UTC), ultred ragnusen wrote:

For example, just think of how long it would take though, to bring this
entire movie, from Windows or Linux to the iOS, or back from iOS to
Windows/Linux given a typical size for movies of about a DVD size for each
movie.
http://i.cubeupload.com/t6ybUj.jpg


Doesn't this cubeupload thing use the internet to transfer files?
And there are rather small limits on file size. According to their
site FAQ.
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Old March 10th 18, 01:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 09/03/2018 03:35:13, ultred ragnusen wrote:
I just picked up a new 128GB Wi-Fi iPad from Costco for $300.
http://i.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg

What I'd like to do is transfer screenshots and photos from the iPad to
Windows 10 as easily as Android does that task over either USB
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Or over WiFi, without ever putting /anything/ on Windows.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Do you have an iOS device connected to Windows such that you can easily
transfer files over WiFi or USB without adding /anything/ to Windows (like
we do with Android)?


FileExplorer Pro installed on the iPad from the iPad App Store, nothing
is installed on the pc side.
Transfers files both ways over wifi.
There are many more similar to FileExplorer Pro in the App Store but I
find this one is very easy to use. It sees all your shared folders and
files on the connected pc or NAS, makes new folders on the iPad side.

This version costs $4.99 but well worth it IMO.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/file...499470113?mt=8

There is a free version which I remember trying but found the paid
version to be better. I cannot remember why as it was such a long time
ago that I tried it.
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/file...510282524?mt=8

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Old March 10th 18, 02:36 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Do you have an iOS device? How to get it to xfer screenshots toWindows 10 easily without that iTunes abomination?

On 3/10/2018 8:07 AM, mick wrote:
On 09/03/2018 03:35:13, ultred ragnusen wrote:
I just picked up a new 128GB Wi-Fi iPad from Costco for $300.
http://i.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg

What I'd like to do is transfer screenshots and photos from the iPad to
Windows 10 as easily as Android does that task over either USB
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Or over WiFi, without ever putting /anything/ on Windows.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Do you have an iOS device connected to Windows such that you can easily
transfer files over WiFi or USB without adding /anything/ to Windows
(like
we do with Android)?


FileExplorer Pro installed on the iPad from the iPad App Store, nothing
is installed on the pc side.
Transfers files both ways over wifi.
There are many more similar to FileExplorer Pro in the App Store but I
find this one is very easy to use.Â* It sees all your shared folders and
files on the connected pc or NAS,Â* makes new folders on the iPad side.

This version costs $4.99 but well worth it IMO.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/file...499470113?mt=8


There is a free version which I remember trying but found the paid
version to be better. I cannot remember why as it was such a long time
ago that I tried it.
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/file...510282524?mt=8
I have never had or used an Ipad, but when I want to transfer pictures

from my phone (not smartphone) to my laptop, I do it by bluetooth. With
Windows 10 it is quite easy.

When I am away from the my network, I also do transfers between my
laptop and tablet, the same way.

If the ipad and the PC have bluetooth you are in business. If the ipad
has bluetooth but the pc does not, you can buy a bluetooth adapter that
plugs into the USB port of your PC and then do bluetooth transfers.


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Old March 10th 18, 09:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 3/10/2018 8:07 AM, mick wrote:
On 09/03/2018 03:35:13, ultred ragnusen wrote:
I just picked up a new 128GB Wi-Fi iPad from Costco for $300.
http://i.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg

What I'd like to do is transfer screenshots and photos from the iPad to
Windows 10 as easily as Android does that task over either USB
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Or over WiFi, without ever putting /anything/ on Windows.
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

Do you have an iOS device connected to Windows such that you can easily
transfer files over WiFi or USB without adding /anything/ to Windows
(like
we do with Android)?


FileExplorer Pro installed on the iPad from the iPad App Store, nothing
is installed on the pc side.
Transfers files both ways over wifi.
There are many more similar to FileExplorer Pro in the App Store but I
find this one is very easy to use.* It sees all your shared folders and
files on the connected pc or NAS,* makes new folders on the iPad side.

This version costs $4.99 but well worth it IMO.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/file...499470113?mt=8


There is a free version which I remember trying but found the paid
version to be better. I cannot remember why as it was such a long time
ago that I tried it.
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/file...510282524?mt=8
I have never had or used an Ipad, but when I want to transfer pictures

from my phone (not smartphone) to my laptop, I do it by bluetooth. With
Windows 10 it is quite easy.


When I am away from the my network, I also do transfers between my
laptop and tablet, the same way.


If the ipad and the PC have bluetooth you are in business. If the ipad
has bluetooth but the pc does not, you can buy a bluetooth adapter that
plugs into the USB port of your PC and then do bluetooth transfers.


Isn't BlueTooth very slow? :/

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Old March 11th 18, 01:40 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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mechanic wrote:

Doesn't this cubeupload thing use the internet to transfer files?


Yes.

And there are rather small limits on file size. According to their
site FAQ.


I'm sure there are file-size limits, so I appreciate that you brought up a
great point that people who save their precious data on the Internet are
forced to be ruled by size limits not of their own choosing.

On the otherhand, I'm asking how to transfer files from iOS to and from
Linux and Windows, where file-size limits are not the problem.

On Android, of course, seamless transfer to and from Windows and Linux is
trivial, as witnessed by this screenshot on my system posted in the OP:
http://wetakepic.com/images/2018/03/...on_windows.jpg

However, on my new iOS devices, Apple makes it harder to interface them
with the real world (saying only that the real world is "not supported").
http://i.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg

So I'm on my own figuring out how to interface these devices to the real
world of Linux and Windows computers.
http://i.cubeupload.com/5IUrm6.jpg

The good news is that I tested more than a dozen freeware apps yesterday,
which, after about 15 minutes per app, I've honed the list of viable apps
from this set of potential apps:
http://i.cubeupload.com/txh6HD.jpg

To this shorter list of viable apps:
http://i.cubeupload.com/P6Liet.jpg

Where, for example, some use HTTP or FTP or SMB servers on the iOS device
to accomplish the interface to the real world, shown here after my testing
for hours yesterday.
https://i.cubeupload.com/uyot4R.jpg

I should note that I have almost no problem interfacing FTP and HTTP
servers on iOS with my Windows 10 desktop, but I have failed every single
time to get the SMB syntax to work on my Windows desktop.
https://i.cubeupload.com/c53HYP.jpg

If folks here can help me figure out why I can't get SMB URIs to work on my
Windows 10 desktop, that would be helfpul!

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Old March 11th 18, 01:53 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Sell it and buy something compatible with the rest of the world.


Thanks for that heartfelt advice to ditch the iOS devices because they're
often much harder to interface with Linux & Windows computers in the real
world, but I need iOS devices to help others on iOS.

I bought this iOS device expressly to help non-technical people interface
to computers in the real world, where, Apple essentially doesn't support
the real world (e.g., Linux or Windows sans iTunes or AirDrop).

I should note this isn't my first rodeo with iOS, as I had iOS 7.0.0
working perfectly with Ubuntu years ago, and the slightest update to iOS
7.0.1 instantly shattered Linux connectivity for everyone on Linux - which
had to be repaired /OUTSIDE/ of any help by Apple (who simply said on their
support site that Linux was "not supported").

After a few hours of testing, I've achieved a seamless integration of iOS
with Windows and Linux over USB as shown below (although it could be
improved because it only "sees" photos/videos at the moment):
https://i.cubeupload.com/cHaOMs.jpg

And, I was able to get a seamless integration using an HTTP server on iOS:
https://i.cubeupload.com/t6ybUj.jpg

Another seamless integration was from using an FTP server on iOS:
https://i.cubeupload.com/Xfh67k.jpg

But I am failing every single time with the SMB URIs, maybe because I don't
know what I'm doing with respect to Windows and SMB sans any additional
software on Windows?
https://i.cubeupload.com/c53HYP.jpg
 




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