XP Pro machine will not stay connected to network for more than 30

I have a computer that was running normally for several years. Suddenly, it
started off the network after about 30 mins after boot. It couldn't see
other machines and they couldnt see it. Rebooting solves the problem for
another 30 mins or so. I put a second PCI network card in the machine and
connected to that - and the problem remained, so it is not the hardware. I
replaced the network switches. I ran SPYBOT S&D and several WINSOCK repair
utilities. Event log showed another computer on the net trying to become a
browser master. I shut that machine off. None of the other machines on my
network (6) have this problem. The only possible clue I have is that I'm
getting an WARNING (in event log) that I'm exceeding the maximum number of
connection attempts. NETSCAN shows 7 devices connected - but XP allows 10,
right? I have tried both static and dynamic ips, What can I try next?

Exdairyfarmer wrote:

I have a computer that was running normally for several years. Suddenly,
it
started off the network after about 30 mins after boot. It couldn't see
other machines and they couldnt see it. Rebooting solves the problem for
another 30 mins or so. I put a second PCI network card in the machine and
connected to that - and the problem remained, so it is not the hardware.
I
replaced the network switches. I ran SPYBOT S&D and several WINSOCK
repair
utilities. Event log showed another computer on the net trying to become
a
browser master. I shut that machine off. None of the other machines on
my
network (6) have this problem. The only possible clue I have is that I'm
getting an WARNING (in event log) that I'm exceeding the maximum number of
connection attempts. NETSCAN shows 7 devices connected - but XP allows
10,
right? I have tried both static and dynamic ips, What can I try next?

The inbound connection limitation is not for *devices*; it is for
*connections*. So while you are correct that the limitation in XP Pro is
10, you are incorrect about the number of connections your computers are
making. Each computer can - and usually does - make more than one
connection to a pseudo-server/server. So you are bumping into the
concurrent inbound connection limitation.

The way to solve this is to replace the XP Pro pseudo-server with a real
server operating system such as Small Business Server or, if the
pseudo-server is only used as a file server, you can replace it with one of
the many Linux distros since Linux has no such limitation.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
Don't Panic!

I shut off several of the machines in my home network, so I don't get that
message anymore. But the problem remains.

There is really nothing in the error log that would indicate the problem.


"Malke" wrote:

Exdairyfarmer wrote:

I have a computer that was running normally for several years. Suddenly,
it
started off the network after about 30 mins after boot. It couldn't see
other machines and they couldnt see it. Rebooting solves the problem for
another 30 mins or so. I put a second PCI network card in the machine and
connected to that - and the problem remained, so it is not the hardware.
I
replaced the network switches. I ran SPYBOT S&D and several WINSOCK
repair
utilities. Event log showed another computer on the net trying to become
a
browser master. I shut that machine off. None of the other machines on
my
network (6) have this problem. The only possible clue I have is that I'm
getting an WARNING (in event log) that I'm exceeding the maximum number of
connection attempts. NETSCAN shows 7 devices connected - but XP allows
10,
right? I have tried both static and dynamic ips, What can I try next?

The inbound connection limitation is not for *devices*; it is for
*connections*. So while you are correct that the limitation in XP Pro is
10, you are incorrect about the number of connections your computers are
making. Each computer can - and usually does - make more than one
connection to a pseudo-server/server. So you are bumping into the
concurrent inbound connection limitation.

The way to solve this is to replace the XP Pro pseudo-server with a real
server operating system such as Small Business Server or, if the
pseudo-server is only used as a file server, you can replace it with one of
the many Linux distros since Linux has no such limitation.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
Don't Panic!

Exdairyfarmer wrote:


I shut off several of the machines in my home network, so I don't get that
message anymore. But the problem remains.

There is really nothing in the error log that would indicate the problem.

When you shut off the other machines, does netscan show the reduced number
of connections?

Are you sure about the 30 minutes time period? If it isn't exactly 30
minutes, perhaps there's some hardware issue. Overheating? Problem with
your switch/router? Just WAGs there.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
Don't Panic!

Netscan did show that the other machines were turned off. I changed cables
and switches. And like I said, I changed network HARDWARE. I normally use
the GIGE port on the motherboard, but when the symptoms appeared, I plugged
in a PCI GigE card. Same results. The machine is rock-solid and always has
been. It has got to be a software issue somewhere. I just can't find it. Is
there any sort of diagnostic tool that can help the "non C programmer" find
Winsock errors?

"Malke" wrote:

Exdairyfarmer wrote:


I shut off several of the machines in my home network, so I don't get that
message anymore. But the problem remains.

There is really nothing in the error log that would indicate the problem.

When you shut off the other machines, does netscan show the reduced number
of connections?

Are you sure about the 30 minutes time period? If it isn't exactly 30
minutes, perhaps there's some hardware issue. Overheating? Problem with
your switch/router? Just WAGs there.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
Don't Panic!

Exdairyfarmer wrote:

Netscan did show that the other machines were turned off. I changed
cables
and switches. And like I said, I changed network HARDWARE. I normally
use the GIGE port on the motherboard, but when the symptoms appeared, I
plugged
in a PCI GigE card. Same results. The machine is rock-solid and always
has
been. It has got to be a software issue somewhere. I just can't find it.
Is
there any sort of diagnostic tool that can help the "non C programmer"
find Winsock errors?

When it comes to sophisticated testing of network errors, I'm out of my area
of expertise. I'll need to bow out and leave you to the true advanced
networking brains who hang out here.

I'm sorry I was unable to help you.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
Don't Panic!

Thanks. I do appreciate your time in trying to help me. I'll start it in
SAFE MODE and see what happens. With enough time, I just might be able to
find it. Each iteration will take me 20-30 minutes on the average.


"Malke" wrote:

Exdairyfarmer wrote:

Netscan did show that the other machines were turned off. I changed
cables
and switches. And like I said, I changed network HARDWARE. I normally
use the GIGE port on the motherboard, but when the symptoms appeared, I
plugged
in a PCI GigE card. Same results. The machine is rock-solid and always
has
been. It has got to be a software issue somewhere. I just can't find it.
Is
there any sort of diagnostic tool that can help the "non C programmer"
find Winsock errors?

When it comes to sophisticated testing of network errors, I'm out of my area
of expertise. I'll need to bow out and leave you to the true advanced
networking brains who hang out here.

I'm sorry I was unable to help you.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
Don't Panic!

Found it!

It was BitTorrent 5.09. I upgraded to the latest version, and things are
back to normal.




"Exdairyfarmer" wrote:

Thanks. I do appreciate your time in trying to help me. I'll start it in
SAFE MODE and see what happens. With enough time, I just might be able to
find it. Each iteration will take me 20-30 minutes on the average.


"Malke" wrote:

Exdairyfarmer wrote:

Netscan did show that the other machines were turned off. I changed
cables
and switches. And like I said, I changed network HARDWARE. I normally
use the GIGE port on the motherboard, but when the symptoms appeared, I
plugged
in a PCI GigE card. Same results. The machine is rock-solid and always
has
been. It has got to be a software issue somewhere. I just can't find it.
Is
there any sort of diagnostic tool that can help the "non C programmer"
find Winsock errors?

When it comes to sophisticated testing of network errors, I'm out of my area
of expertise. I'll need to bow out and leave you to the true advanced
networking brains who hang out here.

I'm sorry I was unable to help you.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
Don't Panic!

Exdairyfarmer wrote:

Found it!

It was BitTorrent 5.09. I upgraded to the latest version, and things are
back to normal.

I never would have guessed this since you didn't mention that you were
torrenting. Glad you got it sorted and thanks for posting the solution.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
Don't Panic!

It started automatically, and I had it hidden on the taskbar. I used the
program so infrequently that I didn't even think about it. What is weird is
that I don't ever remember updating the program, yet the problem "magically"
appeared one day.
I suppose it is possible that it's P2P "engine" got corrupted somehow.

"Malke" wrote:

Exdairyfarmer wrote:

Found it!

It was BitTorrent 5.09. I upgraded to the latest version, and things are
back to normal.

I never would have guessed this since you didn't mention that you were
torrenting. Glad you got it sorted and thanks for posting the solution.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
Don't Panic!