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Because my XP machine was no longer able to see any USB device (any!) I
ended up migrating to Win7 with a PS2 keyboard. Shucks, I might have stayed with XP if I had access to a PS2 mouse... (newegg had one but it was like 3 days away...) All my old data is there (I think) but I really, really, really don't like explorer. Maybe it's just me. One of my biggest problems is that I had a couple of internal hard disks off the two internal IDE controllers and Win7 only wants to see the HD that has the OS on it. Do I need to configure something somewhere? I am pretty sure that I *wanted* to install Win7 to the *2nd* hard disk but the OS can only see the *1st* hard disk. Anyone recognize this? BTW, the copy of Win7 was really for a notebook that I bought that came with the upgrade when I bought it last summer. But, I really, really can't see that being the issue. going mental. Mr. Curious |
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"ng_reader" wrote in message ... Because my XP machine was no longer able to see any USB device (any!) I ended up migrating to Win7 with a PS2 keyboard. Shucks, I might have stayed with XP if I had access to a PS2 mouse... (newegg had one but it was like 3 days away...) BIOS setting All my old data is there (I think) but I really, really, really don't like explorer. Maybe it's just me. One of my biggest problems is that I had a couple of internal hard disks off the two internal IDE controllers and Win7 only wants to see the HD that has the OS on it. Do I need to configure something somewhere? "Take ownership" I am pretty sure that I *wanted* to install Win7 to the *2nd* hard disk but the OS can only see the *1st* hard disk. Anyone recognize this? BTW, the copy of Win7 was really for a notebook that I bought that came with the upgrade when I bought it last summer. But, I really, really can't see that being the issue. It's not going mental. Mr. Curious |
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On 2/21/2010 3:05 PM, Jack wrote:
"ng_reader" wrote in message ... Because my XP machine was no longer able to see any USB device (any!) I ended up migrating to Win7 with a PS2 keyboard. Shucks, I might have stayed with XP if I had access to a PS2 mouse... (newegg had one but it was like 3 days away...) BIOS setting All my old data is there (I think) but I really, really, really don't like explorer. Maybe it's just me. One of my biggest problems is that I had a couple of internal hard disks off the two internal IDE controllers and Win7 only wants to see the HD that has the OS on it. Do I need to configure something somewhere? "Take ownership" I am pretty sure that I *wanted* to install Win7 to the *2nd* hard disk but the OS can only see the *1st* hard disk. Anyone recognize this? BTW, the copy of Win7 was really for a notebook that I bought that came with the upgrade when I bought it last summer. But, I really, really can't see that being the issue. It's not going mental. Mr. Curious To which I'd add, make sure that the drive(s) are showing up in disk management and each has a drive letter assigned. |
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On 2/21/2010 3:33 PM, John McGaw wrote:
On 2/21/2010 3:05 PM, Jack wrote: "ng_reader" wrote in message ... Because my XP machine was no longer able to see any USB device (any!) I ended up migrating to Win7 with a PS2 keyboard. Shucks, I might have stayed with XP if I had access to a PS2 mouse... (newegg had one but it was like 3 days away...) BIOS setting All my old data is there (I think) but I really, really, really don't like explorer. Maybe it's just me. One of my biggest problems is that I had a couple of internal hard disks off the two internal IDE controllers and Win7 only wants to see the HD that has the OS on it. Do I need to configure something somewhere? "Take ownership" I am pretty sure that I *wanted* to install Win7 to the *2nd* hard disk but the OS can only see the *1st* hard disk. Anyone recognize this? BTW, the copy of Win7 was really for a notebook that I bought that came with the upgrade when I bought it last summer. But, I really, really can't see that being the issue. It's not going mental. Mr. Curious To which I'd add, make sure that the drive(s) are showing up in disk management and each has a drive letter assigned. Well, They don't show up. I have two fixed disks one of which is partitioned into two separate drive letters. Naturally they are both there but not the other which has a single partition. As for the BIOS, gosh, I tried that already. On the list of 14 things I did, that was #2. What was odd is the machine got past POST fine, hit the splash and all went dead. So it had to be Windows, I reckon. Now the stuff is working via Win7 but I am running into a ton of errors with all my old 32-bit aps not working, etc. Just don't get it. Or Microsoft's version of reality, either. |
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"ng_reader" wrote in message ... On 2/21/2010 3:33 PM, John McGaw wrote: On 2/21/2010 3:05 PM, Jack wrote: Now the stuff is working via Win7 but I am running into a ton of errors with all my old 32-bit aps not working, etc. I've had really good luck with Compatibility Mode. Nothing has refused to run so far. |
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On 2/21/2010 3:48 PM, ng_reader wrote:
On 2/21/2010 3:33 PM, John McGaw wrote: On 2/21/2010 3:05 PM, Jack wrote: "ng_reader" wrote in message ... Because my XP machine was no longer able to see any USB device (any!) I ended up migrating to Win7 with a PS2 keyboard. Shucks, I might have stayed with XP if I had access to a PS2 mouse... (newegg had one but it was like 3 days away...) BIOS setting All my old data is there (I think) but I really, really, really don't like explorer. Maybe it's just me. One of my biggest problems is that I had a couple of internal hard disks off the two internal IDE controllers and Win7 only wants to see the HD that has the OS on it. Do I need to configure something somewhere? "Take ownership" I am pretty sure that I *wanted* to install Win7 to the *2nd* hard disk but the OS can only see the *1st* hard disk. Anyone recognize this? BTW, the copy of Win7 was really for a notebook that I bought that came with the upgrade when I bought it last summer. But, I really, really can't see that being the issue. It's not going mental. Mr. Curious To which I'd add, make sure that the drive(s) are showing up in disk management and each has a drive letter assigned. Well, They don't show up. I have two fixed disks one of which is partitioned into two separate drive letters. Naturally they are both there but not the other which has a single partition. As for the BIOS, gosh, I tried that already. On the list of 14 things I did, that was #2. What was odd is the machine got past POST fine, hit the splash and all went dead. So it had to be Windows, I reckon. Now the stuff is working via Win7 but I am running into a ton of errors with all my old 32-bit aps not working, etc. Just don't get it. Or Microsoft's version of reality, either. Did either of the two old HDs have an operating system installed on it? If so, I've seen things get a little weird as the boot processor latches onto the old OS rather than the new and gets terminally confused. Some BIOSs have settings which can set the boot sequence in painstaking detail specifying not only the type device in the boot sequence (CD, HD, etc) but also _which_ CD and _which_ HD. Others are a lot more sketchy and I suspect that your BIOS might be in the latter category. In cases like this I've had luck installing the old disk drive(s) in an external enclosure and pulling the data off of them that way. But if all of your USB ports are dead you might be screwed there too unless you have access to a usable firewire case. |
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"John McGaw" wrote in message ... On 2/21/2010 3:48 PM, ng_reader wrote: On 2/21/2010 3:33 PM, John McGaw wrote: On 2/21/2010 3:05 PM, Jack wrote: "ng_reader" wrote in message ... Because my XP machine was no longer able to see any USB device (any!) I ended up migrating to Win7 with a PS2 keyboard. Shucks, I might have stayed with XP if I had access to a PS2 mouse... (newegg had one but it was like 3 days away...) BIOS setting All my old data is there (I think) but I really, really, really don't like explorer. Maybe it's just me. One of my biggest problems is that I had a couple of internal hard disks off the two internal IDE controllers and Win7 only wants to see the HD that has the OS on it. Do I need to configure something somewhere? "Take ownership" I am pretty sure that I *wanted* to install Win7 to the *2nd* hard disk but the OS can only see the *1st* hard disk. Anyone recognize this? BTW, the copy of Win7 was really for a notebook that I bought that came with the upgrade when I bought it last summer. But, I really, really can't see that being the issue. It's not going mental. Mr. Curious To which I'd add, make sure that the drive(s) are showing up in disk management and each has a drive letter assigned. Well, They don't show up. I have two fixed disks one of which is partitioned into two separate drive letters. Naturally they are both there but not the other which has a single partition. As for the BIOS, gosh, I tried that already. On the list of 14 things I did, that was #2. What was odd is the machine got past POST fine, hit the splash and all went dead. So it had to be Windows, I reckon. Now the stuff is working via Win7 but I am running into a ton of errors with all my old 32-bit aps not working, etc. Just don't get it. Or Microsoft's version of reality, either. Did either of the two old HDs have an operating system installed on it? If so, I've seen things get a little weird as the boot processor latches onto the old OS rather than the new and gets terminally confused. Some BIOSs have settings which can set the boot sequence in painstaking detail specifying not only the type device in the boot sequence (CD, HD, etc) but also _which_ CD and _which_ HD. Others are a lot more sketchy and I suspect that your BIOS might be in the latter category. In cases like this I've had luck installing the old disk drive(s) in an external enclosure and pulling the data off of them that way. But if all of your USB ports are dead you might be screwed there too unless you have access to a usable firewire case. Check with the manufacturer for W7 motherboard drivers, too. For a starting point with BIOS, you usually have some sort of "Restore Defaults" option. It's often F5 or F7. |
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On 2/21/2010 7:51 PM, relic wrote:
"John McGaw" wrote in message ... On 2/21/2010 3:48 PM, ng_reader wrote: On 2/21/2010 3:33 PM, John McGaw wrote: On 2/21/2010 3:05 PM, Jack wrote: "ng_reader" wrote in message ... Because my XP machine was no longer able to see any USB device (any!) I ended up migrating to Win7 with a PS2 keyboard. Shucks, I might have stayed with XP if I had access to a PS2 mouse... (newegg had one but it was like 3 days away...) BIOS setting All my old data is there (I think) but I really, really, really don't like explorer. Maybe it's just me. One of my biggest problems is that I had a couple of internal hard disks off the two internal IDE controllers and Win7 only wants to see the HD that has the OS on it. Do I need to configure something somewhere? "Take ownership" I am pretty sure that I *wanted* to install Win7 to the *2nd* hard disk but the OS can only see the *1st* hard disk. Anyone recognize this? BTW, the copy of Win7 was really for a notebook that I bought that came with the upgrade when I bought it last summer. But, I really, really can't see that being the issue. It's not going mental. Mr. Curious To which I'd add, make sure that the drive(s) are showing up in disk management and each has a drive letter assigned. Well, They don't show up. I have two fixed disks one of which is partitioned into two separate drive letters. Naturally they are both there but not the other which has a single partition. As for the BIOS, gosh, I tried that already. On the list of 14 things I did, that was #2. What was odd is the machine got past POST fine, hit the splash and all went dead. So it had to be Windows, I reckon. Now the stuff is working via Win7 but I am running into a ton of errors with all my old 32-bit aps not working, etc. Just don't get it. Or Microsoft's version of reality, either. Did either of the two old HDs have an operating system installed on it? If so, I've seen things get a little weird as the boot processor latches onto the old OS rather than the new and gets terminally confused. Some BIOSs have settings which can set the boot sequence in painstaking detail specifying not only the type device in the boot sequence (CD, HD, etc) but also _which_ CD and _which_ HD. Others are a lot more sketchy and I suspect that your BIOS might be in the latter category. In cases like this I've had luck installing the old disk drive(s) in an external enclosure and pulling the data off of them that way. But if all of your USB ports are dead you might be screwed there too unless you have access to a usable firewire case. Check with the manufacturer for W7 motherboard drivers, too. For a starting point with BIOS, you usually have some sort of "Restore Defaults" option. It's often F5 or F7. Well, I am still very new. And, admittedly do a number of stupid things. Which could describe me as stupid, I guess. I found disc management and lo and behold there was my hidden disc. It wasn't really hidden but it had no drive letter assigned. So, the computer gave it one. The Win7 Operating system is now on drive letter "J". I don't know why a personal computer (not a networked one) could ever have a drive letter "J", but I got one. I will now try and migrate data off that I could use and start over again from scratch. Oh, one other question, as it was already sort of answered here --- I keep a lot of instalation applications on my hard disk under a folder called APS, which I've seen before. I know none of them are 64-bit aps. Is there some kind of way to "install" my older "aps" in compatibility mode? Does that even make sense. But seriously, Win7 doesn't automatically assign drive letters to fixed disk? Did I have to "map" it first? Cheers computer people. |
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On 2/22/10, ng_reader posted:
On 2/21/2010 7:51 PM, relic wrote: "John McGaw" wrote in message ... On 2/21/2010 3:48 PM, ng_reader wrote: On 2/21/2010 3:33 PM, John McGaw wrote: On 2/21/2010 3:05 PM, Jack wrote: "ng_reader" wrote in message ... Because my XP machine was no longer able to see any USB device (any!) I ended up migrating to Win7 with a PS2 keyboard. Shucks, I might have stayed with XP if I had access to a PS2 mouse... (newegg had one but it was like 3 days away...) BIOS setting All my old data is there (I think) but I really, really, really don't like explorer. Maybe it's just me. One of my biggest problems is that I had a couple of internal hard disks off the two internal IDE controllers and Win7 only wants to see the HD that has the OS on it. Do I need to configure something somewhere? "Take ownership" I am pretty sure that I *wanted* to install Win7 to the *2nd* hard disk but the OS can only see the *1st* hard disk. Anyone recognize this? BTW, the copy of Win7 was really for a notebook that I bought that came with the upgrade when I bought it last summer. But, I really, really can't see that being the issue. It's not going mental. Mr. Curious To which I'd add, make sure that the drive(s) are showing up in disk management and each has a drive letter assigned. Well, They don't show up. I have two fixed disks one of which is partitioned into two separate drive letters. Naturally they are both there but not the other which has a single partition. As for the BIOS, gosh, I tried that already. On the list of 14 things I did, that was #2. What was odd is the machine got past POST fine, hit the splash and all went dead. So it had to be Windows, I reckon. Now the stuff is working via Win7 but I am running into a ton of errors with all my old 32-bit aps not working, etc. Just don't get it. Or Microsoft's version of reality, either. Did either of the two old HDs have an operating system installed on it? If so, I've seen things get a little weird as the boot processor latches onto the old OS rather than the new and gets terminally confused. Some BIOSs have settings which can set the boot sequence in painstaking detail specifying not only the type device in the boot sequence (CD, HD, etc) but also _which_ CD and _which_ HD. Others are a lot more sketchy and I suspect that your BIOS might be in the latter category. In cases like this I've had luck installing the old disk drive(s) in an external enclosure and pulling the data off of them that way. But if all of your USB ports are dead you might be screwed there too unless you have access to a usable firewire case. Check with the manufacturer for W7 motherboard drivers, too. For a starting point with BIOS, you usually have some sort of "Restore Defaults" option. It's often F5 or F7. Well, I am still very new. And, admittedly do a number of stupid things. Which could describe me as stupid, I guess. I found disc management and lo and behold there was my hidden disc. It wasn't really hidden but it had no drive letter assigned. So, the computer gave it one. The Win7 Operating system is now on drive letter "J". I don't know why a personal computer (not a networked one) could ever have a drive letter "J", but I got one. Any unused letter from C: to Z: will do; A: & B: should be reserved for floppies. Don't change the system or boot drive letters unless you know how to. Actually, I have no idea if there is any way to do it safely. I will now try and migrate data off that I could use and start over again from scratch. Oh, one other question, as it was already sort of answered here --- I keep a lot of instalation applications on my hard disk under a folder called APS, which I've seen before. I know none of them are 64-bit aps. Is there some kind of way to "install" my older "aps" in compatibility mode? Does that even make sense. Most of my 32-bit apps work fine without compatiblity mode. But seriously, Win7 doesn't automatically assign drive letters to fixed disk? It does unless they have been made letter-free, in my experience. Maybe the imported drive was implicitly unlettered. I have only dealt with USB drives; all of them had letters on first plug-in, except one whose letter I had turned off. Did I have to "map" it first? Mapping is for network drives. Cheers computer people. Cheers. -- Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com |
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On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:53:31 -0600, "R. C. White"
wrote: I found disc management and lo and behold there was my hidden disc. My favorite utility - ever since it first appeared in Windows 2000, 10 years ago this month. ;) Hmm, it's always been one of my least favorites because of its many limitations compared to third party tools. |
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