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converting cine film
In message , Mynews
writes: [] "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message ... [] I have a certain amount of standard and super 8 film; fortunately not sound, so that's one less thing to worry about. I _think_ I still have the projectors (-:! I'd be interested to hear others' experiences in converting these: do you just set up the projector and point a video camera at the screen? [] https://www.amazon.com/8mm-film-view...=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3 A8mm%20film%20viewer Wolverine F2D Mighty 20MP 7-in-1 Film to Digital Converter by Wolverine $99.99(2 used & new offers) See newer model of this item That's for stills only - it can do 8mm film, but it would take an incredibly long time to make a video with it (there are 4000 frames in a 50 foot/4'10" reel of standard 8). The same page does also show the (also from Wolverine) "Film2Digital MovieMaker", which seems to be the only machine priced for the amateur market, but that's $300 (less a cent!), and not yet available in the UK (though its power supply would work here). Reviews are mixed - the general impression seems to be that it's a good basic machine, but uses far too much compression in making the video files. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf They are public servants, so we will threat them rather as Flashman treats servants. - Stephen Fry on some people's attitudo to the BBC, in Radio Times, 3-9 July 2010 |
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converting cine film
In message om, John
Dulak writes: On 7/2/2017 3:48 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: The recent thread (in the W7 'group only) about converting VHS (to DVD was in the title of that thread, but to disc file equally) made me wonder: What experience have people had with converting old cine film? (Or [] While I've never done this there IS a product that claims to do what you want in a dedicated package for $300 US. http://secure.mm5server.com/merchant..._Code=WD&Produ ct_Code=F2DMM100&Attributes=Yes&Quantity=1 http://www.wolverinedata.com/videos/...ieMaker_V1.pdf No idea what the quality is like. [] I've been (back burner) looking into this, and, of the devices that aren't just variations on point-a-projector-at-a-camera (or both at a screen, sometimes via a box), and are within the price range of (fairly rich!) amateurs: I've found two actual chassis, with assorted electronics (or the same electronics but varying firmware). The "reflecta super 8 scanner" looks to be sturdily built out of metal; however, I've only found one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/reflecta-s...r/182681842414, which runs out in less than a couple of hours and has minimal information (but is a fairly current product - USB, seller bought it 2017-1-27). I can't see a screen on it, so it may work entirely with the PC. The other is a plasticky thing made in China; several reviewers (of the Wolverine version) said it developed worrying noises after doing a fairly small number of reels. Nevertheless, about 50% of reviewers are five star happy with it and several more four or three star (again, the Wolverine version) - read the reviews on the USA version of Amazon. (This is the one John Dulak linked to above.) The Wolverine version: costs about $300; scans at 2 frames per second, making a 720p .mp4 file on an SD card (which only plays back at 30 fps, not the 16 18 or 24 of the original film - though this is easily corrected in software, a fact many of the reviewers haven't grasped), and uses rather high compression (thus making visible artefacts) you can't turn off. Make sure you get the one with the later firmware that allows framing and sharpness adjustments. This chassis only takes 5" reels (not a problem to me), though many reviewers have come up with ways round that. Two others I've found obviously use the same chassis, but (the listings I've found) contain scandalously minimal other information, given the price: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Winait-Fil...-/222539739492 is the WinAit, which _seems_ to be identical to the Wolverine other than mentioning "1080p", and http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Reflecta-F...-/311918371968 is the Reflecta, which given the price they're asking has scandalously no information at all! Definitely the Wolverine-type plastic chassis, not the same as the other Reflecta above. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf The early worm gets the bird. |
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Changing fps of converted 8mm movies (Was: converting cine film)
In message , Wolf K
writes: [] Just received a Wolverine 8mm to MP$ converter, will let you know what I think of it. I figured that paying for conversion of 8mm to MP4 would cost a minimum of around $1200 for "TV quality", and upwards of $2000 for HD for my own films, plus I have a bunch of stuff from relatives. I will be very interested to hear. From the reviews I've seen, the basic scanning is fair (though could be higher resolution), but then they put it through some unnecessary compression (the files wouldn't be that big by modern standards), and the compression artefacts are often visible. But still on the whole better than projector/camera attempts. Problem: the MP4 will be 30fps. 8mm is 16fps, Supoer-8 is 24fps. So I'll need a video editor that can interpolate frames to bring the 8mm to correct speed. Do any of the recommended free video editors do that? Does it need to interpolate? If I get one, I just intend to play the files at 16/30 and 18/30 of their natural speed. (I think Super-8 is only 18 FPS, unless it's sound, which is indeed 24, but the Wolverine doesn't have a sound pickup [no problem to me as I have no sound films].) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf We must, of course, ensure that we display no bias. The bias I worry about most is the bias against understanding. - Nick Robinson, RT 2017/4/8-14 |
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