Do I update Before installing SP2?

I'm running Windows XP Home Edition and I have not yet
installed SP2. When I go into "Windows Updates" I notice
that I have 16 "High Priority Updates" to install (these
16 Updates are mostly Security and Critical Updates and
their total combined size is 22 MB.
HERE IS MY QUESTION: Should I install all of these "High
Priority Updates BEFORE I install SP2. Microsoft suggests
I run these High Priority Updates before installing SP2 in
order to ensure a successfull installation of SP2.
However, I was thinking that some of these Updates are
already a part of SP2 and they would therefore be
reduntant.
Any suggestions as to whether I should install the updates
before installing SP2?

Why not follow the suggestion?

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


"vince" wrote in message
...
I'm running Windows XP Home Edition and I have not yet
installed SP2. When I go into "Windows Updates" I notice
that I have 16 "High Priority Updates" to install (these
16 Updates are mostly Security and Critical Updates and
their total combined size is 22 MB.
HERE IS MY QUESTION: Should I install all of these "High
Priority Updates BEFORE I install SP2. Microsoft suggests
I run these High Priority Updates before installing SP2 in
order to ensure a successfull installation of SP2.
However, I was thinking that some of these Updates are
already a part of SP2 and they would therefore be
reduntant.
Any suggestions as to whether I should install the updates
before installing SP2?

Vince-

Harry's logic is very hard to beat, since it would take little time and
offer no downside and we're only talking 22MB. However, it shouldn't make
any difference. If you did it, and then installed SP2, the result is going
to be the same because the bottom line is SP2 is going to get in every
update since XP RTM prior to SP1 and SP2.

When you install SP2 you are going to include all of those updates.
Further, your Windows Update should already have updated to Windows Update V
and that will be picking up any critical updates--*it may be the cause of
this message now*. You can update to SP2 from XP RTM, Tablet, or Media
Center. Hot fixes are always *inclusive of the previous hotfixes in
Windows*. Here is the info from Microsoft:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...know.mspx#EEAA

What's New on Windows Update Published August 4, 2004
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...on126121120120

Chad Harris

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"vince" wrote in message
...
I'm running Windows XP Home Edition and I have not yet
installed SP2. When I go into "Windows Updates" I notice
that I have 16 "High Priority Updates" to install (these
16 Updates are mostly Security and Critical Updates and
their total combined size is 22 MB.
HERE IS MY QUESTION: Should I install all of these "High
Priority Updates BEFORE I install SP2. Microsoft suggests
I run these High Priority Updates before installing SP2 in
order to ensure a successfull installation of SP2.
However, I was thinking that some of these Updates are
already a part of SP2 and they would therefore be
reduntant.
Any suggestions as to whether I should install the updates
before installing SP2?

vince wrote:
I'm running Windows XP Home Edition and I have not yet
installed SP2. When I go into "Windows Updates" I notice
that I have 16 "High Priority Updates" to install (these
16 Updates are mostly Security and Critical Updates and
their total combined size is 22 MB.
HERE IS MY QUESTION: Should I install all of these "High
Priority Updates BEFORE I install SP2. Microsoft suggests
I run these High Priority Updates before installing SP2 in
order to ensure a successfull installation of SP2.
However, I was thinking that some of these Updates are
already a part of SP2 and they would therefore be
reduntant.
Any suggestions as to whether I should install the updates
before installing SP2?
Yes, install them first. They are probably included in SP2; however, there
is an update scan engine onboard which will only install those things found
missing in your OS.
--
Gene K

Gene--

The technology in the Windows Update V5 that Vince should already have been
automatically updated to by now takes care of this intrinsically. It is
probably directly responsible for the notification he's getting, and if SP2
didn't include them (which it does) the scanning is part of the tools in
Winupdate V5 and it would pick them up right away. Either way is the same
result. SP2 is going to include them all. If anything were missing, Win
Update V5 runs the scan engine that would detect them.

Description of the standard terminology that is used to describe Microsoft
software updates, July 26, 2004
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;824684

What's New on Windows Update August 4, 2004
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...on126121120120

The Windows Update Web site indicates that your Windows Update software has
to be updated July 19, 2004
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;836974

How to download Windows updates and drivers from the Windows Update Catalog
August 13, 2004

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;323166

How to configure and use Automatic Updates in Windows XP July 14, 2004
http://support.microsoft.com/default...&product=winxp

*Downloading and Installing Updates With Windows Update V5*

"Express and custom installation options. Want to quickly improve the
security of your PC with the latest security-related updates? The new
Express install option automatically selects all high priority updates for
your computer so you can select them with one click. If you want to spend
more time browsing and choosing from the optional updates as well, choose
the Custom install option.

New update categories to help you choose. "High priority" updates are a new
category on the Windows Update Web site, along with optional software and
hardware categories. High priority updates can include critical and
security-related updates, service packs, and update rollups. When you use
the new Express install option, Windows Update automatically lists all high
priority updates for your PC so you can start installing them with one
click.

Easier update selection. If you choose Express install, Windows Update
automatically lists all high priority updates for your PC. But if you want
to install all available updates at one time, including optional updates and
drivers, you can now select them with one click after you choose Custom
Install.
Smarter updates. Some updates still need to be installed separately before
they can take effect. Now you can select these updates up front and install
them whenever it's convenient—without backtracking or recreating your list.
And if an update replaces or includes any other updates, you only see the
latest, most complete options. You don't have to try to choose between
current and previous versions.

Best,

Chad Harris

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"Gene K" wrote in message
...
vince wrote:
I'm running Windows XP Home Edition and I have not yet
installed SP2. When I go into "Windows Updates" I notice
that I have 16 "High Priority Updates" to install (these
16 Updates are mostly Security and Critical Updates and
their total combined size is 22 MB.
HERE IS MY QUESTION: Should I install all of these "High
Priority Updates BEFORE I install SP2. Microsoft suggests
I run these High Priority Updates before installing SP2 in
order to ensure a successfull installation of SP2.
However, I was thinking that some of these Updates are
already a part of SP2 and they would therefore be
reduntant.
Any suggestions as to whether I should install the updates
before installing SP2?
Yes, install them first. They are probably included in SP2; however, there
is an update scan engine onboard which will only install those things found
missing in your OS.
--
Gene K