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Wolf K wrote:

On 2014-03-14 6:51 AM, Andy Burns wrote:

Because I'm lazy and tabs are the new bookmarks.

They may look like bookmarks from your POV, but they are in fact
something entirely different.

brown is the new black, but I can also tell colours apart; of course I
know that tabs aren't *actually* bookmarks, they are useful to put one
page on hold while you deal with another, but that is habit forming.

And I note that your laziness has caused you more work in the long run.
It always does.

Of course, do you know anyone who keeps their bookmarks and/or tags tidy?

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

There is a practical limit to "lazy" and I do believe you have exceeded
this limit. Tabs are not bookmarks. How do you ever find what you're
looking for in row upon row of tiny tabs?

There's only one row on screen, unless I use the droplist, but I can use
the tab groups screen ...

http://adslpipe.co.uk/misc/lotsoftabs.png

and before you ask, no I don't think all my tabs fit on the group screen!

On 14 Mar 2014, Andy Burns wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

Of course, do you know anyone who keeps their bookmarks and/or
tags tidy?

Yes: me. It's trivial. And bookmarks are easily searchable. Tabs are
not.

You can close a tab with a simple Ctrl+W keystroke. How hard is that?

On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 19:06:19 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

Of course, do you know anyone who keeps their bookmarks and/or
tags tidy?

You could try an external bookmark database application that
supports tags, like Delicious or Netvouz.

Gene E. Bloch wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty posted:
There is a practical limit to "lazy" and I do believe you have exceeded
this limit. Tabs are not bookmarks. How do you ever find what you're
looking for in row upon row of tiny tabs?

He uses the button that displays a screen of thumbnails.

Then all he has to do is scroll through, oh, maybe a dozen or two
screenfuls of thumbnails.

"The SpeedDial From Hell!"

Is the humor sufficiently evident to allow me to omit a smiley?

Sure! :-)

--
-bts
-This space for rent, but the price is high

Andy Burns wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
There is a practical limit to "lazy" and I do believe you have exceeded
this limit. Tabs are not bookmarks. How do you ever find what you're
looking for in row upon row of tiny tabs?

There's only one row on screen, unless I use the droplist, but I can use
the tab groups screen ...

http://adslpipe.co.uk/misc/lotsoftabs.png

and before you ask, no I don't think all my tabs fit on the group
screen!

Yikes! If that thing popped up on my screen, I'd be reaching for the
computer's OFF switch thinking I'd just been infected by a monster malware!

It's impossible to tell what those icons represent! I see a couple dozen
(no, I did not count) of wee pics of a blue capital "S". None have more
than a three-letter clue as to what they are.

You've shot yourself in the foot! :-/

--
-bts
-This space for rent, but the price is high

On 14 Mar 2014, mechanic wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

You could try an external bookmark database application that
supports tags, like Delicious or Netvouz.

Maybe I'm not getting what you're referring to, but Firefox bookmarks
are stored in a database and supports tags right out of the box. What
does the external program get you that's not built in?

On 3/14/2014, Beauregard T. Shagnasty posted:
Andy Burns wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
There is a practical limit to "lazy" and I do believe you have
exceeded this limit. Tabs are not bookmarks. How do you ever find
what you're looking for in row upon row of tiny tabs?

There's only one row on screen, unless I use the droplist, but I can
use the tab groups screen ...

http://adslpipe.co.uk/misc/lotsoftabs.png

and before you ask, no I don't think all my tabs fit on the group
screen!

Yikes! If that thing popped up on my screen, I'd be reaching for the
computer's OFF switch thinking I'd just been infected by a monster
malware!

It's impossible to tell what those icons represent! I see a couple
dozen (no, I did not count) of wee pics of a blue capital "S". None
have more than a three-letter clue as to what they are.

You've shot yourself in the foot! :-/

Look on the bright side: he doesn't have to scroll through "a dozen or
two screenfuls of thumbnails" as I had surmised above.

I had no idea the icons would shrink that far, but I am a real
cheapskate, never paying for more than maybe 12 tabs.

I just described the many-tab schema to my friend (who wandered in just
as I was writing this). She jumped back startled, almost a caricature
of "OMG". Then I showed her the screenshot, and I saw caricature
squared...

It seems she disagrees with Andy Burns :-)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Gene E. Bloch wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty posted:
Andy Burns wrote:
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
There is a practical limit to "lazy" and I do believe you have
exceeded this limit. Tabs are not bookmarks. How do you ever find
what you're looking for in row upon row of tiny tabs?

There's only one row on screen, unless I use the droplist, but I can
use the tab groups screen ...

http://adslpipe.co.uk/misc/lotsoftabs.png

and before you ask, no I don't think all my tabs fit on the group
screen!

Yikes! If that thing popped up on my screen, I'd be reaching for the
computer's OFF switch thinking I'd just been infected by a monster
malware!

It's impossible to tell what those icons represent! I see a couple
dozen (no, I did not count) of wee pics of a blue capital "S". None
have more than a three-letter clue as to what they are.

You've shot yourself in the foot! :-/

Look on the bright side: he doesn't have to scroll through "a dozen or
two screenfuls of thumbnails" as I had surmised above.

Heh. Can't tell for sure. He may have chopped the scroll bar off of the
screenshot.

I had no idea the icons would shrink that far, but I am a real
cheapskate, never paying for more than maybe 12 tabs.

I just described the many-tab schema to my friend (who wandered in just
as I was writing this). She jumped back startled, almost a caricature of
"OMG". Then I showed her the screenshot, and I saw caricature squared...

It seems she disagrees with Andy Burns :-)

Exact same here. My spouse did the same, and laughed out loud for more
than a short time. Thanks, Andy!!

--
-bts
-This space for rent, but the price is high

In message , Andy
Burns writes:
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

I'm afraid I have several hundred tabs open :-(

Statements such as that always puzzle me. Why?

Because I'm lazy and tabs are the new bookmarks.

I know what you mean. I've just done a little pruning and got mine down
to 39.

It cannot be easy to pore through "several hundred tabs" looking for
the one or few that you really need.

It isn't, but did I mention I'm lazy?

I'm puzzled as to how being lazy - which I heartily support, I am too! -
meshes with the _chore_ of having to hunt through the tabs (do you have
tab mix plus so they're in multiple rows, or just one row?) to find the
one you want? (I _do_ organise my _bookmarks_ into folders and
subfolders.) Or do you just have hundreds of tabs that you no longer
_use_ at _all_?

No wonder the computer is "not responding."

If I wanted FF to not do the "not responding" thing, I think removing
flash would be an easier win.

Hmm, not sure. How much RAM do you have, and how much is Firefox using?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

New research shows that three to five cups of coffee a day will cut the risk of
Alzheimer's by about 60 per cent. There is also good evidence that tea is good
for memory. - Michael Mosley interviewed in Radio Times, 7-13 February 2009

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

Andy Burns writes:

I'm lazy and tabs are the new bookmarks.

I know what you mean. I've just done a little pruning and got mine down
to 39.

I've closed a couple of dozen (shamed into turning a few of them into
bookmarks).

I'm puzzled as to how being lazy - which I heartily support, I am too! -
meshes with the _chore_ of having to hunt through the tabs (do you have
tab mix plus so they're in multiple rows, or just one row?) to find the
one you want? (I _do_ organise my _bookmarks_ into folders and
subfolders.) Or do you just have hundreds of tabs that you no longer
_use_ at _all_?

It does become awkward to get to the one(s) I want, in general the
newest ones are toward the right-hand end of the row, a few tabs is a
good thing, but it's definitely not a case of the more the merrier.

How much RAM do you have, and how much is Firefox using?

4GB, 64bit win7, firefox 1.2GB at the moment, but it often gets above 2GB.

On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 08:11:44 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

On 3/14/2014 1:43 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
Yousuf Khan wrote:

I might have a solution to the Thunderbird freezes that some of us
experience, but not others. It may have something to do with antivirus
scanning. I'd suggest excluding the entire directory from being scanned
in which Thunderbird's databases exists, usually %appdata%\Thunderbird,
inside your antivirus software.

I've turned disabled MSE for my TB folder, it'll take me a few weeks to
decide if it's made a difference ...

So far, I think it has improved it, yesterday I notice that TB had gone
into "not responding" mode for quite a long time, but when I checked
with Task Manager, the system (mainly FF+TB together) was eating over
3.3GB, so restarting FF brought it back to normal - I'm afraid I have
several hundred tabs open :-(


Dumb question:

What is the advantage of having several hundred tabs open, over having
several hundred book marks arranged on the bookmark toolbar, arranged in
folders so you can open a group of URL by opening the folder.

It's much easier to recognize and access specific information from an open
tab (a loaded web page) than from a static bookmark. The open tab displays
the entire web page, while the bookmark might consist of a name or include
text that has no relation to what you wanted to see. This makes bookmarks a
poor substitute for open tabs.

I arrange several bookmarks in a folder and place it on the bookmark
toolbar. as an example the folder may contain several newspaper URL
that I read regularly. Opening the folder with center mouse click or
right click, "Open in tab" opens each newspaper in its own tab.

That might work for sites that you intend to open on a fairly regular basis
but it doesn't work at all for sites that you open just once. It's too top
heavy for general use.

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 08:24:33 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

I'm puzzled as to how being lazy - which I heartily support, I am too! -
meshes with the _chore_ of having to hunt through the tabs (do you have
tab mix plus so they're in multiple rows, or just one row?) to find the
one you want?

If you think hunting through open tabs is a chore, try hunting through the
same number of bookmarks.

On 15 Mar 2014, Char Jackson wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

If you think hunting through open tabs is a chore, try hunting
through the same number of bookmarks.

I don't understand that. Firefox's bookmarks are easily searchable.
Ctrl+B and type your criteria. It's not a chore at all

Nil wrote:
On 15 Mar 2014, Char Jackson wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

If you think hunting through open tabs is a chore, try hunting
through the same number of bookmarks.

I don't understand that. Firefox's bookmarks are easily searchable.
Ctrl+B and type your criteria. It's not a chore at all

Especially if you edit the title of the bookmark
and insert your own tags. Then, later when you search,
you're much more likely to find what you want.

Paul