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Philip, Totally OT, but can I ask why your email address contains this
string?
=?UTF-8?B?Ii4uLndpbnN0b27igKsi?=

I assume it's because you are using some different character encoding.

I ask because I receive a moderate amount of spam that seems to look
similar and is unreadable on my email client, and I'm interested to know
what I'm deleting.
--
Bill

""...winston‫"" escreveu na mensagem ...

If the friend forgot the password for the MSFT account then they would
have to use another pc or another account to access the web UI to reset
the password. Once reset in the web UI, the Win8x MSFT account sign on
will require the newly reset password (when the pc is connected to
internet - cable or wifi).


--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps

---

Are you saying if I change the password of MS account on web mail, it's
possible to login Windows 8 with MS account and new password?

In message , Bill
writes
In message ,
=?UTF-8?B?Ii4uLndpbnN0b27igKsi?= writes




Philip, Totally OT, but can I ask why your email address contains this
string?
=?UTF-8?B?Ii4uLndpbnN0b27igKsi?=

I assume it's because you are using some different character encoding.

I ask because I receive a moderate amount of spam that seems to look
similar and is unreadable on my email client, and I'm interested to
know what I'm deleting.

Ooops. Sorry I must have had a very senior moment.

I, of course, meant to ask Winston, not Philip.
--
Bill

Bill wrote:
In message , Bill
writes
In message ,
=?UTF-8?B?Ii4uLndpbnN0b27igKsi?= writes




Philip, Totally OT, but can I ask why your email address contains this
string?
=?UTF-8?B?Ii4uLndpbnN0b27igKsi?=


Ooops. Sorry I must have had a very senior moment.

I, of course, meant to ask Winston, not Philip.


Don't know...it's whatever SeaMonkey chose as default...though I could
have had a senior moment and changed it or forgotten I changed it.

Is this one any better ?

--
....winston
msft mvp consumer apps

Gary wrote:
Are you saying if I change the password of MS account on web mail, it's
possible to login Windows 8 with MS account and new password?

One doesn't change the password for a MSFT in web mail (technically
speaking), the option to select 'Change Password' can be found on:
https://account.live.com/proofs/Manage

And yes....if the password is changed in the MSFT account in the web UI,
then the new information will become necessary to logon with that same
MSFT account when used as the logon account on Win8x.

Likewise if one uses Windows 8x option to change the password under the
Modern UI's 'PC Settings/Accounts/Sign-in Options' then the new password
will become necessary to logon in the web UI in a browser. (Note: it
would also be necessary to update MSFT account passwords in some email
accounts).

i.e. Syncing is a two-way street

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....winston
msft mvp consumer apps

"...winston‫" wrote:
Bill wrote:
In message , Bill
writes
Philip, Totally OT, but can I ask why your email address contains this
string?
=?UTF-8?B?Ii4uLndpbnN0b27igKsi?=


Ooops. Sorry I must have had a very senior moment.

I, of course, meant to ask Winston, not Philip.


Don't know...it's whatever SeaMonkey chose as default...though I could
have had a senior moment and changed it or forgotten I changed it.

Is this one any better ?

Or this ?

--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

In message ,
=?UTF-8?B?Ii4uLndpbnN0b27igKsi?= writes
"...winston0 Bill wrote:
In message , Bill
writes
Philip, Totally OT, but can I ask why your email address contains this
string?
=?UTF-8?B?Ii4uLndpbnN0b27igKsi?=


Ooops. Sorry I must have had a very senior moment.

I, of course, meant to ask Winston, not Philip.


Don't know...it's whatever SeaMonkey chose as default...though I could
have had a senior moment and changed it or forgotten I changed it.

Is this one any better ?

Or this ?

Er, No and no.

The header of my emails includes

Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed

whereas yours is

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

I'm not sure whether my email client should handle UTF8. I have asked on
a relevant newsgroup.
--
Bill

On 10/07/2014 05:10 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 15:36:20 -0400, Caver1 wrote:

On 10/07/2014 11:10 AM, Char Jackson wrote:

Mine doesn't display any email address or user information during startup.
It simply displays a Password dialog, similar to previous Windows versions.
Not sure if I did anything to make it behave this way. Seems like it was the
default.


I would restore it if that behaviour just started. If it's always done
that a reset to factory should do it if not.

Why would I want to change from a desired behavior to an undesired behavior?


You said you didn't like what your Windows was revealing. You asked if
you should restore or reset.
So my answer was if it wasn't doing it before just restore to a restore
point when it wasn't. If it had that behavior from the start a restore
wouldn’t do you any good.


--
Caver1

On 10/07/2014 05:38 PM, "...winston‫" wrote:
Philip Herlihy wrote:
Someone's just asked for my help getting into their new W8 laptop.
Apparently it was set up with a new Microsoft account as the only user
account, and he's lost the bit of paper with that (new!) email address
on it, although he can remember the password. I've solved similar
problems on earlier versions of Windows, but not Windows 8 before.
Apparently if necessary the machine can be restored as there's no user
data on it yet. Any pointers?


Hi Phillip,
Quite a few responses and some not apparently using Win8x with a MSFT
account logon or multiple logon accounts (one MSFT and one Local)

On Win8x..
The Welcome screen will show the configured account picture and the
logon name with a clickable icon for all accounts.

Once the icon is clicked:
- A Microsoft account will show the MSFT account email address **and**
the respective logon name and a dialog box to enter the password
- A local account will only show the logon name (no email address or
MSFT account is associated) and a dialog box to enter the password


My wife's 8.1 had a Microsoft account and never showed the email address
just the user name.


--
Caver1

In article om,
says...

Big Al wrote on 10/7/2014 11:47 AM:
Philip Herlihy wrote on 10/7/2014 7:28 AM:
Someone's just asked for my help getting into their new W8 laptop.
Apparently it was set up with a new Microsoft account as the only user
account, and he's lost the bit of paper with that (new!) email address
on it, although he can remember the password. I've solved similar
problems on earlier versions of Windows, but not Windows 8 before.
Apparently if necessary the machine can be restored as there's no user
data on it yet. Any pointers?


I have looked high and low but still haven't found the answer but a
friend of mine had Vista and lost all of his passwords except his
daughters non-admin login. (Some good that does).
But I found a utility that would wipe all or selected passwords out. It
was basically a linux boot disk and it booted right to the utility. It
did a great job, easy to use and then he could log in with no password
and go into control panel - users and set new passwords.

You might want to google in that direction.

If I find it, I WILL post the info. Not saying it will work on Windows
7+ or not but it did work on Vista. And you might search with Vista in
mind too. Can't harm!


http://www.howtogeek.com/96805/how-t...an-install-cd/
This worked for me.
But I take no responsibility for lost data, in other words, try at your
own risk.

That looks like it will work - thanks.

Thanks too to other posters, but some have lost sight of the fact that
the password is reputedly known - it's the email account used as the
login id which is forgotten!


--

Phil, London

In article , says...

Philip Herlihy wrote:
Someone's just asked for my help getting into their new W8 laptop.
Apparently it was set up with a new Microsoft account as the only user
account, and he's lost the bit of paper with that (new!) email address
on it, although he can remember the password. I've solved similar
problems on earlier versions of Windows, but not Windows 8 before.
Apparently if necessary the machine can be restored as there's no user
data on it yet. Any pointers?


Hi Phillip,
Quite a few responses and some not apparently using Win8x with a MSFT
account logon or multiple logon accounts (one MSFT and one Local)

On Win8x..
The Welcome screen will show the configured account picture and the
logon name with a clickable icon for all accounts.

Once the icon is clicked:
- A Microsoft account will show the MSFT account email address **and**
the respective logon name and a dialog box to enter the password
- A local account will only show the logon name (no email address or
MSFT account is associated) and a dialog box to enter the password


Thus your friend should only have to enter the password for the MSFT
account after selecting that same MSFT account on the Welcome screen.

Are you absolutely certain the friend did not forget the password (i.e.
not the MSFT account email address)????

If the friend forgot the password for the MSFT account then they would
have to use another pc or another account to access the web UI to reset
the password. Once reset in the web UI, the Win8x MSFT account sign on
will require the newly reset password (when the pc is connected to
internet - cable or wifi).

Thanks, Winston. I haven't seen the laptop yet (may be a while,
apparently). What he's saying is that he knows the password, but can't
remember the MSFT account, which is in the form of an email address.
He's not currently responding (not actually someone I know very well) so
it may be he just realised that it's staring him in the face! I don't
have a W8 machine with only a single account, so I can't tell if the
login screen does indeed display the account name or (there being no
choice to make) simply runs through to the password dialogue.

If I do get to see this machine I'll let everyone know!

--

Phil, London

Philip Herlihy wrote:
In article om,
says...
Big Al wrote on 10/7/2014 11:47 AM:
Philip Herlihy wrote on 10/7/2014 7:28 AM:
Someone's just asked for my help getting into their new W8 laptop.
Apparently it was set up with a new Microsoft account as the only user
account, and he's lost the bit of paper with that (new!) email address
on it, although he can remember the password. I've solved similar
problems on earlier versions of Windows, but not Windows 8 before.
Apparently if necessary the machine can be restored as there's no user
data on it yet. Any pointers?


I have looked high and low but still haven't found the answer but a
friend of mine had Vista and lost all of his passwords except his
daughters non-admin login. (Some good that does).
But I found a utility that would wipe all or selected passwords out. It
was basically a linux boot disk and it booted right to the utility. It
did a great job, easy to use and then he could log in with no password
and go into control panel - users and set new passwords.

You might want to google in that direction.

If I find it, I WILL post the info. Not saying it will work on Windows
7+ or not but it did work on Vista. And you might search with Vista in
mind too. Can't harm!

http://www.howtogeek.com/96805/how-t...an-install-cd/
This worked for me.
But I take no responsibility for lost data, in other words, try at your
own risk.

That looks like it will work - thanks.

Thanks too to other posters, but some have lost sight of the fact that
the password is reputedly known - it's the email account used as the
login id which is forgotten!

I hope the Microsoft accounts get listed in a similar way
to the local ones. I understand you're still supposed to be
able to log in without a network connection. I use only local
accounts here, so can't test this.

And that link is great, as I've never used the Pogostick kit
for a reset experiment. So I'm seeing those menu choices
for the first time. Looks useful.

Paul

On 10/08/2014 11:45 AM, Philip Herlihy wrote:
In article om,
says...

Big Al wrote on 10/7/2014 11:47 AM:
Philip Herlihy wrote on 10/7/2014 7:28 AM:
Someone's just asked for my help getting into their new W8 laptop.
Apparently it was set up with a new Microsoft account as the only user
account, and he's lost the bit of paper with that (new!) email address
on it, although he can remember the password. I've solved similar
problems on earlier versions of Windows, but not Windows 8 before.
Apparently if necessary the machine can be restored as there's no user
data on it yet. Any pointers?


I have looked high and low but still haven't found the answer but a
friend of mine had Vista and lost all of his passwords except his
daughters non-admin login. (Some good that does).
But I found a utility that would wipe all or selected passwords out. It
was basically a linux boot disk and it booted right to the utility. It
did a great job, easy to use and then he could log in with no password
and go into control panel - users and set new passwords.

You might want to google in that direction.

If I find it, I WILL post the info. Not saying it will work on Windows
7+ or not but it did work on Vista. And you might search with Vista in
mind too. Can't harm!


http://www.howtogeek.com/96805/how-t...an-install-cd/
This worked for me.
But I take no responsibility for lost data, in other words, try at your
own risk.

That looks like it will work - thanks.

Thanks too to other posters, but some have lost sight of the fact that
the password is reputedly known - it's the email account used as the
login id which is forgotten!



That's a problem with email. You have more than one email account and
forgot which one you used where, or the one you originally used you no
longer have and the site/service will only send you account access help
to the original address signed up with and you have no idea what it was
because it was way to long ago. Like yesterday for me.

--
Caver1

On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 09:35:26 -0400, Caver1 wrote:

On 10/07/2014 05:10 PM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 15:36:20 -0400, Caver1 wrote:

On 10/07/2014 11:10 AM, Char Jackson wrote:

Mine doesn't display any email address or user information during startup.
It simply displays a Password dialog, similar to previous Windows versions.
Not sure if I did anything to make it behave this way. Seems like it was the
default.


I would restore it if that behaviour just started. If it's always done
that a reset to factory should do it if not.

Why would I want to change from a desired behavior to an undesired behavior?


You said you didn't like what your Windows was revealing. You asked if
you should restore or reset.

It was the OP who asked those things. I'm happy with the fact that my Win 8
system doesn't display any email addresses during login.

On 10/08/2014 01:15 PM, Caver1 wrote:
On 10/08/2014 11:45 AM, Philip Herlihy wrote:
In article om,
says...

Big Al wrote on 10/7/2014 11:47 AM:
Philip Herlihy wrote on 10/7/2014 7:28 AM:
Someone's just asked for my help getting into their new W8 laptop.
Apparently it was set up with a new Microsoft account as the only user
account, and he's lost the bit of paper with that (new!) email address
on it, although he can remember the password. I've solved similar
problems on earlier versions of Windows, but not Windows 8 before.
Apparently if necessary the machine can be restored as there's no user
data on it yet. Any pointers?


I have looked high and low but still haven't found the answer but a
friend of mine had Vista and lost all of his passwords except his
daughters non-admin login. (Some good that does).
But I found a utility that would wipe all or selected passwords
out. It
was basically a linux boot disk and it booted right to the
utility. It
did a great job, easy to use and then he could log in with no password
and go into control panel - users and set new passwords.

You might want to google in that direction.

If I find it, I WILL post the info. Not saying it will work on
Windows
7+ or not but it did work on Vista. And you might search with
Vista in
mind too. Can't harm!


http://www.howtogeek.com/96805/how-t...an-install-cd/

This worked for me.
But I take no responsibility for lost data, in other words, try at your
own risk.

That looks like it will work - thanks.

Thanks too to other posters, but some have lost sight of the fact that
the password is reputedly known - it's the email account used as the
login id which is forgotten!



That's a problem with email. You have more than one email account and
forgot which one you used where, or the one you originally used you no
longer have and the site/service will only send you account access help
to the original address signed up with and you have no idea what it was
because it was way to long ago. Like yesterday for me.

I dropped a local cable company and went to Verizon years and years ago.
Same thing happened, but I keep horrendous records about emails. But
I spent weeks slowly trying to get emails changed. I hate sites that
LOCK you into that email. You can't change it as it's the link into a
database, rather than some obscure ID you don't see, no, make it your
email! I still to this day fine some obscure site that I haven't
visited in 4 years that has that old ISP. And of the 4 email
addresses, I still can use one. I use it for possible spam sites etc. :-)