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#1546
April 29th 17, 08:26 PM
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#1547
April 29th 17, 09:11 PM
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Smokers are smarter, I say.
On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:00:18 +0100, Snit wrote:
On 4/22/17, 10:43 AM, in article , "James Wilkinson Sword" wrote: I give my parents the credit. You perhaps don't know how children are born? They have no say regarding their skin colour. i'm sure you can relate to that. You're dumber than a brick. Keep in mind that in general it is the liberal states who give to the federal government and the conservative states who take. Not 100%, but the tendency is clearly there. I'm in the UK so things may be different, and I'm not sure if the labels mean the same thing. But here, the conservative government (right wing, capitalist) saves money and doesn't spend much. The labour government (left wing, socialist) spends money on everything, promising better healthcare and education, and ends up putting the country into more and more debt, then the conservatives have to raise the taxes to recover when they next get in, which of course labour blames them for. The conservatives will say the same thing about the US, but it is not how it works... BOTH major parties (we have only two) are paid for and beholden to wealthy interests. They serve the wealthy. Here is a BBC article on it: http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746 The Democrats put some efforts into protecting human rights and the environment, but generally as little as they can get away with and often doing things for show more than real purpose. This is what lead to us getting Trump who is an utter joke. What have you got against Trump? He's the best president you've ever had. The Democrats pushed through Clinton who was clearly serving the rich and even talked about having a public agenda for the people and a private agenda for them (not her exact words). It is pretty gross. At this point the US is the wealthiest country in the world but most of our new wealth goes to the very rich and they take and take and take. Then they control the media and push the idea, which many buy, that the poor -- those with the least power and ability to take ANYTHING -- are somehow the "takers"... a claim which makes absolutely no sense. This is a decent summary: https://mitpress.mit.edu/vanishing ----- The United States is becoming a nation of rich and poor, with few families in the middle. In this book, MIT economist Peter Temin offers an illuminating way to look at the vanishing middle class. Temin argues that American history and politics, particularly slavery and its aftermath, play an important part in the widening gap between rich and poor. Temin employs a well-known, simple model of a dual economy to examine the dynamics of the rich/poor divide in America, and outlines ways to work toward greater equality so that America will no longer have one economy for the rich and one for the poor. Many poorer Americans live in conditions resembling those of a developing country‹substandard education, dilapidated housing, and few stable employment opportunities. And although almost half of black Americans are poor, most poor people are not black. Conservative white politicians still appeal to the racism of poor white voters to get support for policies that harm low-income people as a whole, casting recipients of social programs as the Other‹black, Latino, not like "us." Politicians also use mass incarceration as a tool to keep black and Latino Americans from participating fully in society. Money goes to a vast entrenched prison system rather than to education. In the dual justice system, the rich pay fines and the poor go to jail. ----- It has been getting worse and worse here since the 1980s. -- Local police hunting the "knitting needle nutter", who has stabbed six people in the last 48 hours, believe the attacker could be following some kind of pattern.
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#1548
April 29th 17, 09:12 PM
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#1550
April 29th 17, 09:43 PM
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Smokers are smarter, I say.
On 4/29/17, 1:11 PM, in article , "James Wilkinson
Sword" wrote: On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:00:18 +0100, Snit wrote: On 4/22/17, 10:43 AM, in article , "James Wilkinson Sword" wrote: I give my parents the credit. You perhaps don't know how children are born? They have no say regarding their skin colour. i'm sure you can relate to that. You're dumber than a brick. Keep in mind that in general it is the liberal states who give to the federal government and the conservative states who take. Not 100%, but the tendency is clearly there. I'm in the UK so things may be different, and I'm not sure if the labels mean the same thing. But here, the conservative government (right wing, capitalist) saves money and doesn't spend much. The labour government (left wing, socialist) spends money on everything, promising better healthcare and education, and ends up putting the country into more and more debt, then the conservatives have to raise the taxes to recover when they next get in, which of course labour blames them for. The conservatives will say the same thing about the US, but it is not how it works... BOTH major parties (we have only two) are paid for and beholden to wealthy interests. They serve the wealthy. Here is a BBC article on it: http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746 The Democrats put some efforts into protecting human rights and the environment, but generally as little as they can get away with and often doing things for show more than real purpose. This is what lead to us getting Trump who is an utter joke. What have you got against Trump? His lack of any qualifications are significant, but I think his utter lack of judgement might be a bigger thing. He's the best president you've ever had. The best we have had in the last 100 days. Can't argue with that! The Democrats pushed through Clinton who was clearly serving the rich and even talked about having a public agenda for the people and a private agenda for them (not her exact words). It is pretty gross. At this point the US is the wealthiest country in the world but most of our new wealth goes to the very rich and they take and take and take. Then they control the media and push the idea, which many buy, that the poor -- those with the least power and ability to take ANYTHING -- are somehow the "takers"... a claim which makes absolutely no sense. This is a decent summary: https://mitpress.mit.edu/vanishing ----- The United States is becoming a nation of rich and poor, with few families in the middle. In this book, MIT economist Peter Temin offers an illuminating way to look at the vanishing middle class. Temin argues that American history and politics, particularly slavery and its aftermath, play an important part in the widening gap between rich and poor. Temin employs a well-known, simple model of a dual economy to examine the dynamics of the rich/poor divide in America, and outlines ways to work toward greater equality so that America will no longer have one economy for the rich and one for the poor. Many poorer Americans live in conditions resembling those of a developing country‹substandard education, dilapidated housing, and few stable employment opportunities. And although almost half of black Americans are poor, most poor people are not black. Conservative white politicians still appeal to the racism of poor white voters to get support for policies that harm low-income people as a whole, casting recipients of social programs as the Other‹black, Latino, not like "us." Politicians also use mass incarceration as a tool to keep black and Latino Americans from participating fully in society. Money goes to a vast entrenched prison system rather than to education. In the dual justice system, the rich pay fines and the poor go to jail. ----- It has been getting worse and worse here since the 1980s. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308
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#1551
April 30th 17, 06:02 PM
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Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man'selectrocution
On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 23:12:16 +0100, Snit wrote:
On 4/22/17, 1:41 PM, in article , "James Wilkinson Sword" wrote: Most people keep their monitors brighter than that (though not all, my wife HATES bright monitors and keeps hers very dim). I used to do that with CRTs, I found them rather glaring. But a bright LCD doesn't annoy me much. For me it was the flicker on the old CRTs, especially if they were set to 60 MHz. You mean 60Hz. Yes. Of course. Sorry about that. Also sorry I hit the "Send" button before I meant to with the first reply.  I did that all the time before I found and disabled the send keystroke. I do it more on my mobile phone when texting because the space is right next to send, and it's a small phone compared to the size of my fingers. For some reason it claims to take a few seconds to send the text, but if I cancel immediately, they still get it. Must just be the ACK that takes ages. I always used 90Hz, but I still didn't like them bright. If I set a CRT and an LCD side by side to both be comfortable to work with, the same photo on both displays looked completely different. The CRTs didn't seem to have a linear output, so the darker areas of the photo were not visible on the CRT. If I made the photo look correct on the CRT by brightening it in Photoshop, it looked washed out on the LCD. I do not have the color-monitor hardware and the like but always calibrate my displays. When I would set up labs of computers the colors would look very different from screen to screen right out of the box. Some (or should that be all except expensive ones) displays don't have enough adjustments to calibrate them well. The lights are on in my room, which are fairly bright. On a nice day with the lights off they probably match. If I carry the piece of paper around the house and outside, the colour is completely different. Just ask any woman buying clothes or curtains and getting home to find the colour isn't the same as in the shop. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technol...-gold-dress-he res-science-5241292 OR https://goo.gl/B5GoC0 I never understood the problem. I see exactly what photoshop sees - the lighter of the two colours is white with a blue tint. It's about 110:110:130 RGB. So not blue, but white with a little bit of blue. There's no eyesight problem, just a cameraphone problem. I see it the same way you do. Then our eyes both agree with photoshop and the people seeing it differently are ****ed in the head. So anyway, you can never say that a printout is the same as a backlit display, because it depends how much light is in the room when you look at the printout. Can you calibrate a room light? I am sure there are ways... but I know nothing of them. Apparently Philips (I think) make an adjustable LED one, you can change the RGB value with a remote. I have a light for a fish tank that lets me change the color but not with any precision... just a dozen or so pre-set options (some of them rotating through colors). Fish probably aren't fussy enough to need more than that. -- Is a "speed hump" when you have to get it done before your wife comes home?
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#1552
April 30th 17, 06:02 PM
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Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man'selectrocution
On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 23:31:11 +0100, wrote:
On 2017-04-22 21:35:54 +0000, "James Wilkinson Sword" said: On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 22:27:59 +0100, wrote: On 2017-04-22 20:41:31 +0000, "James Wilkinson Sword" said: You mean 60Hz. I always used 90Hz, but I still didn't like them bright. If I set a CRT and an LCD side by side to both be comfortable to work with, the same photo on both displays looked completely different. The CRTs didn't seem to have a linear output, so the darker areas of the photo were not visible on the CRT. If I made the photo look correct on the CRT by brightening it in Photoshop, it looked washed out on the LCD. It doesn't sound as if you are using any sort of color management at all. I would start by obtaining the tools to calibrate your displays. Done correctly you will find that display calibration will/can be adjusted in realtime for changes in ambient and/or room light. Consider something such as the calibration tools offered by X-Rite. http://www.xrite.com/categories/calibration-profiling/colormunki-display A calibrated display isn't necessarily nice to use. Anyway, CRTs are now obsolete, so it doesn't matter. Nice hasn't got anything to do with it. Correct color does. Just tweaking the display settings so that it is "nice" for you doesn't mean that the display color is correct. But you've got to live with it. ...and who said anything about CRTs? I did up there. Calibration is needed for all displays including LCDs, and you sound as if you have some seriously uncalibrated displays. I have them set so they're comfortable to use. -- A bunch of lawyers were sitting around the office playing poker. “I win!” says Johnson at which point Henderson throws down his cards. “That’s it! I've had it! Johnson is cheating!!!” “How can you tell?” Phillips asked. “Those aren't the cards I dealt him!”
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#1553
April 30th 17, 06:03 PM
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Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man'selectrocution
On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 23:33:01 +0100, nospam wrote:
In article , James Wilkinson Sword wrote: You mean 60Hz. I always used 90Hz, but I still didn't like them bright. If I set a CRT and an LCD side by side to both be comfortable to work with, the same photo on both displays looked completely different. The CRTs didn't seem to have a linear output, so the darker areas of the photo were not visible on the CRT. If I made the photo look correct on the CRT by brightening it in Photoshop, it looked washed out on the LCD. It doesn't sound as if you are using any sort of color management at all. I would start by obtaining the tools to calibrate your displays. Done correctly you will find that display calibration will/can be adjusted in realtime for changes in ambient and/or room light. Consider something such as the calibration tools offered by X-Rite. http://www.xrite.com/categories/calibration-profiling/colormunki-display A calibrated display isn't necessarily nice to use. it's always nice to use. For you maybe. Everyone's eyesight is different. Anyway, CRTs are now obsolete, so it doesn't matter. it still matters. lcds also need to be calibrated. The conversation was about how my CRTs were terrible. -- A man's home is his castle, in a manor of speaking.
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#1554
April 30th 17, 06:08 PM
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Anything (was Apple told to warn against charging phone inbath after man's electrocution)
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 00:26:25 +0100, Sprang wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 18:19:45 -0500, Carl J, after 15 edits, wrote this: [snip] Oh cool, a new drift in the thread. How does one go about ending a wildly drifting cross-posted thread? The End. Change the subject line. I have a setting that preserves threads. So, doesn't work here. Not sure about others. I don't even have the setting. Threads are followed by (all?) newsreaders by ref headers. Anyway, posting whateve you like on the end of it won't stop anyone else replying to what was already there. You're assuming that people will all reply to the "stop". -- What's the difference between PMS and Mad Cow Disease? The number of tits.
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#1555
April 30th 17, 06:13 PM
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Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man'selectrocution
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:04:45 +0100, Snit wrote:
On 4/24/17, 12:02 PM, in article , "Mark Lloyd" wrote: On 04/24/2017 08:29 AM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: [snip] More space, although I thought the punctuation itself provided that. I don't have any problem distinguishing sentences. Double the gap after a . than a , makes things clearer. I don't need the extra space. Of course, I don't complain about anyone else using it unless they were trying to force that on me. I a m no t su re extr a spa ces a lway s mak e t hing s m ore cl ear. I read that very easily, which concerns me. -- I went to a drive-in movie in a taxi - it cost me 95 quid.
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#1556
April 30th 17, 06:14 PM
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Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man'selectrocution
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:08:05 +0100, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 04/24/2017 08:29 AM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: [snip] Ah, I thought you were talking about the light itself. You're peering at it when it's off. When they're both lit, do they mix well or can you still see two colours of light? I see mostly purple, but can look at the chip itself and usually can distinguish some blue and red. Also, IIRC, there was mention of violet light killing bugs. I'd like to know more about that. No, it ATTRACTS bugs. (Ultra?) violet light is given off by flowers apparently, and has a sort of trail they follow to get to the pollen. Bug killers use the light to attract them, then 2000V kills them. -- What is the punishment for bigamy? Two mother-in-laws.
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#1557
April 30th 17, 06:22 PM
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Anything (was Apple told to warn against charging phone inbath after man's electrocution)
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:08:55 +0100, James Wilkinson Sword, after 15 edits, wrote
this: On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 00:26:25 +0100, Sprang wrote: On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 18:19:45 -0500, Carl J, after 15 edits, wrote this: [snip] Oh cool, a new drift in the thread. How does one go about ending a wildly drifting cross-posted thread? The End. Change the subject line. I have a setting that preserves threads. So, doesn't work here. Not sure about others. I don't even have the setting. Threads are followed by (all?) newsreaders by ref headers. Anyway, posting whateve you like on the end of it won't stop anyone else replying to what was already there. You're assuming that people will all reply to the "stop". I assume people are grown enough to not get upset by it. If there is a really long thread I don't want to read, a key press 'd' marks it read. Make the newsreader do the work! I think when I used to use Pan(newsreader) threads would break up from changing the subject line. -- SpringSprangSprung
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#1558
April 30th 17, 06:26 PM
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Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man'selectrocution
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:13:23 +0100, James Wilkinson Sword, after 15 edits, wrote
this: On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:04:45 +0100, Snit wrote: On 4/24/17, 12:02 PM, in article , "Mark Lloyd" wrote: On 04/24/2017 08:29 AM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: [snip] More space, although I thought the punctuation itself provided that. I don't have any problem distinguishing sentences. Double the gap after a . than a , makes things clearer. I don't need the extra space. Of course, I don't complain about anyone else using it unless they were trying to force that on me. I a m no t su re extr a spa ces a lway s mak e t hing s m ore cl ear. I read that very easily, which concerns me. How 'bout this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typoglycemia -- SpringSprangSprung
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#1559
April 30th 17, 07:45 PM
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Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man'selectrocution
On 4/30/17, 10:02 AM, in article , "James Wilkinson
Sword" wrote: On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 23:12:16 +0100, Snit wrote: On 4/22/17, 1:41 PM, in article , "James Wilkinson Sword" wrote: Most people keep their monitors brighter than that (though not all, my wife HATES bright monitors and keeps hers very dim). I used to do that with CRTs, I found them rather glaring. But a bright LCD doesn't annoy me much. For me it was the flicker on the old CRTs, especially if they were set to 60 MHz. You mean 60Hz. Yes. Of course. Sorry about that. Also sorry I hit the "Send" button before I meant to with the first reply. I did that all the time before I found and disabled the send keystroke. I do it more on my mobile phone when texting because the space is right next to send, and it's a small phone compared to the size of my fingers. For some reason it claims to take a few seconds to send the text, but if I cancel immediately, they still get it. Must just be the ACK that takes ages. Mine was just a silly error: clicked "reply" and started to type, was interrupted, and then hit "Send" thinking I was getting read to reply still. One of those things where as your hand is going through the muscle memory action your brain screams "no!" but it is too late. I always used 90Hz, but I still didn't like them bright. If I set a CRT and an LCD side by side to both be comfortable to work with, the same photo on both displays looked completely different. The CRTs didn't seem to have a linear output, so the darker areas of the photo were not visible on the CRT. If I made the photo look correct on the CRT by brightening it in Photoshop, it looked washed out on the LCD. I do not have the color-monitor hardware and the like but always calibrate my displays. When I would set up labs of computers the colors would look very different from screen to screen right out of the box. Some (or should that be all except expensive ones) displays don't have enough adjustments to calibrate them well. Sure. I have a third party second screen attached to my iMac -- the quality is pretty bad but good enough for what I do. My wife's old iMac has dying backlight -- nothing you can do to get rid of the stripes of darker and lighter areas. Not really noticeable when watching a video but very clear on a single color screen. And even with videos had to fiddle with the gamma settings to get it to be reasonably good. The lights are on in my room, which are fairly bright. On a nice day with the lights off they probably match. If I carry the piece of paper around the house and outside, the colour is completely different. Just ask any woman buying clothes or curtains and getting home to find the colour isn't the same as in the shop. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/science/white-gold-dress-h e res-science-5241292 OR https://goo.gl/B5GoC0 I never understood the problem. I see exactly what photoshop sees - the lighter of the two colours is white with a blue tint. It's about 110:110:130 RGB. So not blue, but white with a little bit of blue. There's no eyesight problem, just a cameraphone problem. I see it the same way you do. Then our eyes both agree with photoshop and the people seeing it differently are ****ed in the head. Most if not all "optical" illusions are really brain illusions... and different people are impacted by them in different ways. There are some I cannot see "right" no matter how much I know they are illusions. This is one of my favorites: https://goo.gl/Wg4Ah6. Square A looks darker to me than square B even though I know it is not. I cannot see it as it "really" is no matter how hard I try. So anyway, you can never say that a printout is the same as a backlit display, because it depends how much light is in the room when you look at the printout. Can you calibrate a room light? I am sure there are ways... but I know nothing of them. Apparently Philips (I think) make an adjustable LED one, you can change the RGB value with a remote. I have a light for a fish tank that lets me change the color but not with any precision... just a dozen or so pre-set options (some of them rotating through colors). Fish probably aren't fussy enough to need more than that. Hmmm, good point. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308
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April 30th 17, 07:46 PM
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