Image backups.

Using Macrium 7, is it required to close all applications before
starting the image backup? Normally I just leave them open.

On 03/21/2018 5:37 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
Using Macrium 7, is it required to close all applications before
starting the image backup? Normally I just leave them open.



I *Always* close down running applications before I do a backup.

Rene

On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 09:37:49 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

Using Macrium 7, is it required to close all applications before
starting the image backup? Normally I just leave them open.

It is not necessary to close your applications. Reflect uses
Microsoft's VSS, which stands for Volume Shadow Storage.

I will leave it to you to do any further reading if you feel you need
to know the technical details of VSS.

Peter Jason wrote:
Using Macrium 7, is it required to close all applications before
starting the image backup? Normally I just leave them open.

There is a ten second interval, where VSS asks applications
and subsystems to "quiesce" their file system usage. The
VSS can then take a volume snapshot. Any file saved after
the volume snapshot is formed, won't be recorded in the
backup, but will be safely stored in the file system.

It's good to not actively antagonize the thing.

For example, maybe I could use File Explorer and
copy 10GB of files from C: to D: . While at the same
time, I have just started a Macrium backup of D: . The
file copy might be creating 4000 files per second on
my D: SSD. The VSS subsystem is supposed to be designed
to deal with that, and the newly copied information
at some point, is "cut off" from the volume snapshot,
and won't be appearing in the backup. The 10GB file copying
exercise will work as intended. Half of the newly copied
files might be in the backup. The entire 10GB set will
definitely be covered in the next VSS-based backup
you make.

It should all work, without dismissing programs. But common
sense tells you that less can go wrong, if you don't go
out of your way to "break things". You know how well
tested computer code is.

You should be able to continue to work, as the backup
is running. If you save a Word document to your Home,
it won't be in the backup (it's not in the VSS snapshot),
but it will get backed up on the next backup you make.
Which might be tomorrow.

Paul

On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 00:39:06 +0000, Good Guy wrote:

On 21/03/2018 22:37, Peter Jason wrote:
Using Macrium 7, is it required to close all applications before
starting the image backup? Normally I just leave them open.

No.

Macrium will take care of anything you can't handle yourself. Macrium is
smarter than users using it.

And you are more obnoxious than words can describe. You were told to go
away, can you not read or follow instructions.

On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 09:08:39 -0400, Paul
wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
Using Macrium 7, is it required to close all applications before
starting the image backup? Normally I just leave them open.

There is a ten second interval, where VSS asks applications
and subsystems to "quiesce" their file system usage. The
VSS can then take a volume snapshot. Any file saved after
the volume snapshot is formed, won't be recorded in the
backup, but will be safely stored in the file system.

It's good to not actively antagonize the thing.

For example, maybe I could use File Explorer and
copy 10GB of files from C: to D: . While at the same
time, I have just started a Macrium backup of D: . The
file copy might be creating 4000 files per second on
my D: SSD. The VSS subsystem is supposed to be designed
to deal with that, and the newly copied information
at some point, is "cut off" from the volume snapshot,
and won't be appearing in the backup. The 10GB file copying
exercise will work as intended. Half of the newly copied
files might be in the backup. The entire 10GB set will
definitely be covered in the next VSS-based backup
you make.

It should all work, without dismissing programs. But common
sense tells you that less can go wrong, if you don't go
out of your way to "break things". You know how well
tested computer code is.

You should be able to continue to work, as the backup
is running. If you save a Word document to your Home,
it won't be in the backup (it's not in the VSS snapshot),
but it will get backed up on the next backup you make.
Which might be tomorrow.

Paul

Thanks, I notice Macrium 7 has a "Guardian" feature to prevent
deletion of past backups. I wasted half an hour trying to delete a
previous backup (to make room on my backup HDD). No wonder computers
send people insane!

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On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 00:39:06 +0000, Good Guy wrote:

On 21/03/2018 22:37, Peter Jason wrote:
Using Macrium 7, is it required to close all applications before
starting the image backup? Normally I just leave them open.

No.

Macrium will take care of anything you can't handle yourself. Macrium is
smarter than users using it.

And you are more obnoxious than words can describe. You were told to go
away, can you not read or follow instructions.

+1

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