"Google's not-so-secret new OS"

"Google's not-so-secret new OS"
http://www.osnews.com/story/29666/Go...-secret_new_OS

Google is going to walk away from Linux for Android ?

This is a kill shot to Windows by Google. One wonders if it will work. One result might be that Microsoft releases Windows as freeware.

Lynn

Lynn McGuire wrote:
"Google's not-so-secret new OS"
http://www.osnews.com/story/29666/Go...-secret_new_OS

Google is going to walk away from Linux for Android ?

This is a kill shot to Windows by Google. One wonders if it will work.
One result might be that Microsoft releases Windows as freeware.

Lynn

But it will never be able to order pizza like Cortana can.

For that is what distinguishes modern OSes. Not what is
underneath, but whether they can order pizza via voice command.

My secret plan, is to develop an OS that can order
pizza and *donairs*. I have a software patent on the
donair feature, so nobody else will be able to order
a donair.

Paul

Lynn McGuire wrote:

"Google's not-so-secret new OS"
http://www.osnews.com/story/29666/Go...-secret_new_OS

Google is going to walk away from Linux for Android ? This is a kill
shot to Windows by Google. One wonders if it will work. One result
might be that Microsoft releases Windows as freeware.

The real article is over at:
https://techspecs.blog/blog/2017/2/1...-secret-new-os

Don't know why the site decided to go lightweight on color (grey instead
of black). Luckily it supports Reader Mode (in Firefox).

Lynn McGuire wrote:

"Google's not-so-secret new OS"
http://www.osnews.com/story/29666/Go...-secret_new_OS

Google is going to walk away from Linux for Android ?

This is a kill shot to Windows by Google. One wonders if it will work.
One result might be that Microsoft releases Windows as freeware.

Lynn
If it becomes as popular as windows is, IE it holds the dominant
market share. it will suffer the same problems as windows.

there is no real profit in targeting linux os's as it holds a small
share in the market. plus the numerous flavors of linux makes it hard
to target users of linux.

Not that linux is immune to hacking or viruses.

What ist happening since a few months and will continue, is the
integration of Androidapps into Chrome OS:
http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/15/14...disappointment
Mossberg: Android apps on Chrome OS arrive, disappoint
The idea is great, but the execution needs work
by Walt Mossberg@waltmossberg Feb 15, 2017, 9:00am EST
(...)

Linux in its different forms (including Android, Chrome OS, the OS of
your router) is already the most used OS on the planet. Here some
nice graphics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_...rating_systems
Usage share of operating systems

For me it is abvious, that the fat client, dominated by Windows, is
dying slowly. Present and future are cloud apps which only need a OS
like Chrome OS as a thin client. Our daughter has a Chromebit,
connected to a Dell 24" monitor (1920*1200 Pixel), and I like it. No
hand holding for Windows any more, no annoying updates blocking the
device for hours. The monthly update takes about 1 minute.

Regards

M.

On 16/02/2017 20:20, VanguardLH wrote:
Lynn McGuire wrote:

"Google's not-so-secret new OS"
http://www.osnews.com/story/29666/Go...-secret_new_OS

Google is going to walk away from Linux for Android ? This is a kill
shot to Windows by Google. One wonders if it will work. One result
might be that Microsoft releases Windows as freeware.

The real article is over at:
https://techspecs.blog/blog/2017/2/1...-secret-new-os

Don't know why the site decided to go lightweight on color (grey instead
of black). Luckily it supports Reader Mode (in Firefox).

Should it be of interest, Firefox has an 'Add-on' called "Blacken" which
alters the grey colour of the text at that link to black!

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-Gb/firefox/addon/blacken/

"The Blacken add-on scans a page for places where the foreground color
is specified as some shade of grey. The color of the text will be
changed to either black or white to maximise the contrast with the
background. Optionally you can have colored text altered to improve the
contrast with the background.

Normally Blacken runs automatically on each page. There are manual
controls available in either a toolbar popup or the right-button menu.

There has been a recent fad for spindly text with certain fonts. Blacken
will also thicken the text a bit by increasing any font weight less than
400 (normal) up to 400. (See the Thicken Text preference)."

--
"Do something wonderful, people may imitate it." (Albert Schweitzer)

On 2017-02-17, Michael Logies wrote:
For me it is abvious, that the fat client, dominated by Windows, is
dying slowly. Present and future are cloud apps which only need a OS
like Chrome OS as a thin client.

That's the past. Applications run and data stored on remote servers via
a minimalistic "thin" terminal. It's the way we did computing decades
ago. It's just faster, cheaper, and has pretty pictures now.

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On 2/17/17 7:44 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2017-02-17, Michael Logies wrote:
For me it is abvious, that the fat client, dominated by Windows, is
dying slowly. Present and future are cloud apps which only need a OS
like Chrome OS as a thin client.

That's the past. Applications run and data stored on remote servers via
a minimalistic "thin" terminal. It's the way we did computing decades
ago. It's just faster, cheaper, and has pretty pictures now.

And someone else controlled what you can do. :-(


--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.11.6
Firefox 51.0.1 (64 bit)
Thunderbird 45.7.1
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 22:41:07 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

And someone else controlled what you can do. :-(

Linux will remain available. If providers of cloud apps become too
rectrictive, one would be able to go local again, I hope.

M.

On 02/17/2017 11:41 PM, Ken Springer wrote:

[snip]

That's the past. Applications run and data stored on remote servers via
a minimalistic "thin" terminal. It's the way we did computing decades
ago. It's just faster, cheaper, and has pretty pictures now.

And someone else controlled what you can do. :-(

I remember reading a horror story where a government agency kept
everyone's heart in a hidden underground facility, with some kind of
device that made them work remotely, That way, they could threaten and
kill anyone they wanted to. "cloud computing" reminds me of that story.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The _root_ meaning of 'service' is like what the bull does to the cow"

On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 10:23:42 -0500, "Mayayana"
wrote:

You may be affecting that outcome with your own
actions. The "fat client" is not dying slowly. It's being
assassinated gradually due to profit motive.

I can sympathize with everything you write. But we, the consumers have
also a profit motive. You call it convenience - less money and time
spent by consumers for the IT-functions/-services they wish.

Our computers at home are idle most of the time. CPUs not working at
full potential, hard disks empty, maintenance for individual machines
by the consumer is cumbersome and expensive. Same for cars - public
transport is much more economical. So is a public cloud. Economies of
scale will win here, again.

So our role as consumers will be to choose cloud services wisely to
maintain a market and competition. If this should not happen, strong
regulation and nationalization has to be considered. Cloud services
will become as important as electricity or water supply or health
care. They should be regulated accordingly - in germany this means,
very strictly.

Regards

Michael

On 18/02/2017 20:12, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 02/17/2017 11:41 PM, Ken Springer wrote:

[snip]

That's the past. Applications run and data stored on remote servers via
a minimalistic "thin" terminal. It's the way we did computing decades
ago. It's just faster, cheaper, and has pretty pictures now.

And someone else controlled what you can do. :-(

I remember reading a horror story where a government agency kept
everyone's heart in a hidden underground facility, with some kind of
device that made them work remotely, That way, they could threaten and
kill anyone they wanted to. "cloud computing" reminds me of that story.

I like your story! :-)

Do, though, read he- Message-ID:

--
"Do something wonderful, people may imitate it." (Albert Schweitzer)

"Michael Logies" wrote

| You may be affecting that outcome with your own
| actions. The "fat client" is not dying slowly. It's being
| assassinated gradually due to profit motive.
|
| I can sympathize with everything you write. But we, the consumers have
| also a profit motive. You call it convenience - less money and time
| spent by consumers for the IT-functions/-services they wish.
|
| Our computers at home are idle most of the time. CPUs not working at
| full potential, hard disks empty,

?? So are closets. And lawnmowers only get used a few
times per year. And none of my dishes currently have
food on them. Computers and software are cheaper
than ever. That's why there's cloud. Not because it's
necessarily more convenient but because profits are
dropping on computers and software.

| So our role as consumers will be to choose cloud services wisely to
| maintain a market and competition. If this should not happen, strong
| regulation and nationalization has to be considered. Cloud services
| will become as important as electricity or water supply or health
| care. They should be regulated accordingly - in germany this means,
| very strictly.
|
That *might* be feasible in Germany. EU regulations
are more democratic and civilized than in the US. It's
not going to work in the US. It already doesn't work.
And I don't think Europeans are any less addicted to
gmail and Facebook.

On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 17:28:35 -0500, "Mayayana"
wrote:

Computers and software are cheaper
than ever.

Only the physical hardware. Setting up a local system, installing and
updating software, migrating to new hardware is as expensive as ever
or even more so because of more data and software.

That's why there's cloud.

To get out of the above complexity.

And I don't think Europeans are any less addicted to
gmail and Facebook.

There are differences, not too big I assume. But me and our kids don`t
use Facebook. And use Signal instead of Whatsapp. And my main email
provider is a german one, though I use Gmail for my private purposes
and within family (calendar sharing).

Best Regards

Michael

On 2017-02-18, Michael Logies wrote:
I can sympathize with everything you write. But we, the consumers have
also a profit motive. You call it convenience - less money and time
spent by consumers for the IT-functions/-services they wish.

Ken Olsen was right, just ahead of his time.

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