Goodbye to Windows Live

Apparently, Microsoft is phasing out the Windows Live brand name.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/27/business/windows-live-brand-fades-into-the-sunset-digital-domain.html
http://www.odt.co.nz/blogs/dene-mackenzie/211881/time-say-goodbye-windows-live


--

Char Jackson

At least Micro**** is getting the message windows live is ****.

Char Jackson wrote:

Apparently, Microsoft is phasing out the Windows Live brand name.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/27/business/windows-live-brand-fades-into-the-sunset-digital-domain.html
http://www.odt.co.nz/blogs/dene-mackenzie/211881/time-say-goodbye-windows-live

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On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:04:55 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

Apparently, Microsoft is phasing out the Windows Live brand name.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/27/business/windows-live-brand-fades-into-the-sunset-digital-domain.html
http://www.odt.co.nz/blogs/dene-mackenzie/211881/time-say-goodbye-windows-live

I'll need to go out & buy some extra Kleenex Live (TM) to get me through
this trauma...

OK, I admit that my primary feeling abut Windows Live has to do with
Windows live Mail, so my view is seriously parochial :-)

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On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:30:59 -0700, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:04:55 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

Apparently, Microsoft is phasing out the Windows Live brand name.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/27/business/windows-live-brand-fades-into-the-sunset-digital-domain.html
http://www.odt.co.nz/blogs/dene-mackenzie/211881/time-say-goodbye-windows-live

I'll need to go out & buy some extra Kleenex Live (TM) to get me through
this trauma...

OK, I admit that my primary feeling abut Windows Live has to do with
Windows live Mail, so my view is seriously parochial :-)

And while just for fun browsing around New Zealand (i.e., your second
link) I ran across this:

http://www.odt.co.nz/blogs/anna-chin...n-surface-moon

My only defense for posting this is that the domain of that link is odt,
clearly (in this instance) meaning "off the damn topic".

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In message , Tony
writes:
At least Micro**** is getting the message windows live is ****.

Char Jackson wrote:

Apparently, Microsoft is phasing out the Windows Live brand name.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/27/bu...brand-fades-in
to-the-sunset-digital-domain.html

http://www.odt.co.nz/blogs/dene-mack...y-goodbye-wind
ows-live

--

Char Jackson

If you look into it, I think you'll find that it is just the _name_
they're phasing out. Some of the products will continue under different
names.
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On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:04:55 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:


Apparently, Microsoft is phasing out the Windows Live brand name.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/27/business/windows-live-brand-fades-into-the-sunset-digital-domain.html
http://www.odt.co.nz/blogs/dene-mackenzie/211881/time-say-goodbye-windows-live



Glad to hear it. Good as Microsoft is at some things, they are often
terrible at naming things, and often confuse many people with the
names they choose. As a single example, speaking of the Windows Live
brand name, many people mix up Windows Live Mail and Windows Mail.

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:35:56 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:04:55 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:


Apparently, Microsoft is phasing out the Windows Live brand name.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/27/business/windows-live-brand-fades-into-the-sunset-digital-domain.html
http://www.odt.co.nz/blogs/dene-mackenzie/211881/time-say-goodbye-windows-live

Glad to hear it. Good as Microsoft is at some things, they are often
terrible at naming things, and often confuse many people with the
names they choose. As a single example, speaking of the Windows Live
brand name, many people mix up Windows Live Mail and Windows Mail.

Thanks for the chance to b*tch (again!):

Outlook vs Outlook Express

*The* Administrator vs *an* Administrator account

Maybe even Excel vs Access

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On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:53:58 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:35:56 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:04:55 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:


Apparently, Microsoft is phasing out the Windows Live brand name.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/27/business/windows-live-brand-fades-into-the-sunset-digital-domain.html
http://www.odt.co.nz/blogs/dene-mackenzie/211881/time-say-goodbye-windows-live

Glad to hear it. Good as Microsoft is at some things, they are often
terrible at naming things, and often confuse many people with the
names they choose. As a single example, speaking of the Windows Live
brand name, many people mix up Windows Live Mail and Windows Mail.

Thanks for the chance to b*tch (again!):

Outlook vs Outlook Express

*The* Administrator vs *an* Administrator account

Maybe even Excel vs Access

Also, Windows Explorer vs. Internet Explorer.

On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:43:30 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:30:59 -0700, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:04:55 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

Apparently, Microsoft is phasing out the Windows Live brand name.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/27/business/windows-live-brand-fades-into-the-sunset-digital-domain.html
http://www.odt.co.nz/blogs/dene-mackenzie/211881/time-say-goodbye-windows-live

I'll need to go out & buy some extra Kleenex Live (TM) to get me through
this trauma...

OK, I admit that my primary feeling abut Windows Live has to do with
Windows live Mail, so my view is seriously parochial :-)

And while just for fun browsing around New Zealand (i.e., your second
link) I ran across this:

http://www.odt.co.nz/blogs/anna-chin...n-surface-moon

My only defense for posting this is that the domain of that link is odt,
clearly (in this instance) meaning "off the damn topic".

Very nice. :-)

--

Char Jackson

On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:53:58 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote:

[snip]

Thanks for the chance to b*tch (again!):

Outlook vs Outlook Express

*The* Administrator vs *an* Administrator account

Maybe even Excel vs Access

Or Access and Access? (There was an Access before the DBMS. It
was a communications program.)

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:06:30 -0500, Antares 531
wrote:

[snip]

Also, Windows Explorer vs. Internet Explorer.

That one makes sense to me.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Char Jackson wrote:

Apparently, Microsoft is phasing out the Windows Live brand name.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/27/business/windows-live-brand-fades-into-the-sunset-digital-domain.html
http://www.odt.co.nz/blogs/dene-mackenzie/211881/time-say-goodbye-windows-live

Not really anything new regarding Microsoft's penchant to badly name
their products or services.

Directories became folders supposedly to avoid confusion with domain
directories.

Internet Mail & News (IMN) was renamed to Outlook Express despite that
it was unrelated to the Outlook product. Tons of users thought they
were using a light version of Outlook. And, of course, Outlook can't be
named Outlook when used on a Mac but instead gets renamed to Entourage.

After a makeover, COM/OLE got rebranded to ActiveX.

Products include characters that are usually dropped or ignored by
online search engines, like .Net instead of MSNet. At least a search of
MSNet might find articles relevant to it but .Net searches on Net which
means you're all over the place regarding topics. "Net Framework" works
better but few actually discuss .Net with the Framework name added.

We have a file and desktop manager called [Windows] Explorer confused
with a web browser called Internet Explorer. You can web browse using
either and file browse using either by using the address bar in either.

Office went from version numbers to year number versioning with a
one-time excursion into letter versioning and then back to year number
versioning. Users often didn't know what version they had with Office
XP where each component was actually the 2002 year number version.

Windows, the NT (New Technology) product, starts with version numbers
3.5, and up, to show they follow after the Windows (9x/DOS line) of
3.11. Then the 9x/DOS line starts using year numbers for versions (95,
98) and changes to letters (ME = Millenium Edition). The NT line, while
still having underlying version numbers, also goes to year number
versioning but Microsoft decides to put names on major versions, like XP
and Vista, and then goes back to version numbers, like 7 and 8.
Microsoft also decides to slice up functionality with each version to
gives us editions of each version, like Home, Home Premium,
Professional, Ultimate, Business, Enterprise, Starter, Workstation, and
Server (Enterprise Edition to Advanced Server and back to Enterprise
Edition).

Microsoft introduces a boob's OS interface (desktop manager) with some
dumbed-down apps called Bob but no one knew what it was and those that
did had no want of it. They emulated IBM's advertising of OS/2 Warp
that never identified what the ad was selling (similar to some pretty
stupid jeans and parfume commercials).

VSS: Is it Virtual SourceSafe or Volume Shadow [Copy] Service?

Windows Genuine Advantage. Microsoft's means to track licensing in a
very slip-shod manner. A bad joke trying to emulate seat licensing.
Installs that are valid become invalid. An advantage to whom? Not to
the user, for sure.

PlaysForSure, a logo certification program for services and devices that
employed Windows Media DRM. PlaysForSure tracks often failed to play on
the certified devices, wouldn't play in other devices or players, and
didn't even play in Microsoft's own music player. A more accurate
product name would've been MusicCripple&FailDRM.

Messenger. Would that be Windows Messenger (an NT service for opening
popup messages to intranet hosts), the old MSN Messenger chat client, or
Live Messenger renamed to Windows Live Messenger?

SiteServer became OfficeServer and then SharePoint. Anyone even
remember Groove?

MSFT's nomenclature has long been confusing (as you've noted).

Subtle correction regarding Messenger
- the NT service for opening popup messages was 'Windows Messenger
Service' (not Windows Messenger) and was not an IM client
- the IM clients were (Windows Messenger - ended with version 5, MSN
Messenger ended with version 7.5, rebranded to Live Messenger 2008 which had
three versions 8.0, 8.1, 8.5 but under the hood it was build version 12,
Live Messenger 2009/build version 14, Live Messenger 2011/build version 15).
Fyi...for Win8 (its called Messaging/Build version 16)



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"VanguardLH" wrote in message ...

Messenger. Would that be Windows Messenger (an NT service for opening
popup messages to intranet hosts), the old MSN Messenger chat client, or
Live Messenger renamed to Windows Live Messenger?

Old news.

With Windows 8 approaching, Windows Live Essentials (like OE, WM, Digital
Image Suite etc) becomes legacy ware since Windows 8 has unique (and modeled
after Windows 7 Phone) communication applications (Mail, Messaging, People,
Calendar).
- Mail supports Hotmail, Google, and Exchange (it does not support Pop3 or
IMAP like WLM)
- Messaging (allows IM conversations (it lacks a significant part of WLMsgr
feature set- sharing files/pictures, tabbed conversations, mail
notifications (the list is quite long)
- People (i.e. Contacts) - synced with the above email accounts online
contacts and/or connected services (e.g. Facebook)

Windows Live Essential programs (2011 version) all run on Windows 8.
Technically not supported (like WM is not supported on Win7) but compatible
(with a few under the hood exceptions).

This is a marketing brand name change that aligns the Windows 8 apps (with
the Microsoft brand name)
- if you look under the hood the Win8 apps (in Explorer they show up as
Packages) while modeled after the 'Phone' apps they use a fair amount of
common code/files
- Mail and Messaging use the same edb database structure as WLM and WLMsgr
- People (contacts are also are stored locally as *.eml files instead of an
edb database.

Other Live branded services are impacted.
Live Hotmail and Live SkyDrive become Microsoft Hotmail and Microsoft
SkyDrive

I.e. effectively what was called Live (you may recall the Live ID option in
the WLE suite of products) for cloud synchronization is retained and
expanded upon in Win8
- Windows 8 User Profile Logon (Microsoft Account - i.e. a Live ID)
- Mail for Hotmail, Google, Exchange type accounts
- Messaging for Hotmail type accounts or 3rd party Live ID-Microsoft
accounts, Facebook
- People for Hotmail, Exchange, Facebook, Google, LinkedIn, Twitter
- Photos (local and SkyDrive sync), Facebook, Flickr (a viewer unlike WL
PhotoGallery - view/edit)
- SkyDrive (separate app)
- SkyDrive Desktop (available for Vista/Win7/Win8 - integrates cloud folders
with Windows Explorer)


I..e the 'Live' brand name may deprecated in favor of the 'Microsoft' brand
name but the concept of Live integration with the 'cloud' is quite a-'Live.

The above should also be a clear indication where resources for information
sharing are applied and have been for quite a few years (including the
complete lack of MSFT's interest in usenet/nntp as a means of information
sharing - sad ? Yes, but reality)

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"Char Jackson" wrote in message
news

Apparently, Microsoft is phasing out the Windows Live brand name.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/27/business/windows-live-brand-fades-into-the-sunset-digital-domain.html
http://www.odt.co.nz/blogs/dene-mackenzie/211881/time-say-goodbye-windows-live


--

Char Jackson

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 18:30:16 -0400, Tony
wrote:

At least Micro**** is getting the message windows live is ****.

It will be great if they just get rid of Windows Live Mail but it may
be too late as it has already wrecked Usenet.

Steve

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