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March 26th 09, 05:25 AM
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Hi,
Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo 
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March 26th 09, 09:21 AM
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Leo
None that are worth paying for! In most situations the Disk Defragmenter coming with Windows XP does a perfectly adequate job. Remember it is important to run Disk CleanUp ( or better still cCleaner ) before Disk Defragmenter to get the best results. Where there is a large fragmented file and limited free disk space Defraggler is useful. You can defragment individual files. An interesting relatively new entrant to the market is Defraggler (freeware for home users) which I am currently testing. It is worth looking at and does not with any negative reports. It also comes from the software house providing cCleaner: http://www.defraggler.com/features -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ....... wrote: Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo
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March 26th 09, 03:51 PM
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Gerry
Based on your earlier post I downloaded Defraggler to evaluate it also. The test PC had a clean install of XP SP3 plus a bunch of test and diagnostic utilities as this is a new PC I just finished building. Drive is FAT32 with 26% used and highly fragmented. Running Defraggler now and it taking what appears to be an awful long time an still is only 50% complete. Do you find that Defraggler is also slow? -- JS http://www.pagestart.com "Gerry" wrote in message ... Leo None that are worth paying for! In most situations the Disk Defragmenter coming with Windows XP does a perfectly adequate job. Remember it is important to run Disk CleanUp ( or better still cCleaner ) before Disk Defragmenter to get the best results. Where there is a large fragmented file and limited free disk space Defraggler is useful. You can defragment individual files. An interesting relatively new entrant to the market is Defraggler (freeware for home users) which I am currently testing. It is worth looking at and does not with any negative reports. It also comes from the software house providing cCleaner: http://www.defraggler.com/features -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...... wrote: Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo
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March 26th 09, 04:27 PM
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JS
No not normally but all my testing has been on NTFS formatted disks. It has never taken an exceptionally long time. My disks would never, however, present the type of challenge that I have seen others bring to these newsgroups. BTW Defraggler works equally well in Vista but most of my use has been with Windows XP. If you have multi fragmented very large files I would tackle the small files before taking on a big one. Also eliminate temporary files using cCleaner first. It is quite a bit quicker than Disk Defragmenter -- Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JS wrote: Gerry Based on your earlier post I downloaded Defraggler to evaluate it also. The test PC had a clean install of XP SP3 plus a bunch of test and diagnostic utilities as this is a new PC I just finished building. Drive is FAT32 with 26% used and highly fragmented. Running Defraggler now and it taking what appears to be an awful long time an still is only 50% complete. Do you find that Defraggler is also slow? "Gerry" wrote in message ... Leo None that are worth paying for! In most situations the Disk Defragmenter coming with Windows XP does a perfectly adequate job. Remember it is important to run Disk CleanUp ( or better still cCleaner ) before Disk Defragmenter to get the best results. Where there is a large fragmented file and limited free disk space Defraggler is useful. You can defragment individual files. An interesting relatively new entrant to the market is Defraggler (freeware for home users) which I am currently testing. It is worth looking at and does not with any negative reports. It also comes from the software house providing cCleaner: http://www.defraggler.com/features -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...... wrote: Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo
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March 26th 09, 04:47 PM
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Thanks,
I'll try it on one of my NTFS partitions. -- JS http://www.pagestart.com "Gerry" wrote in message ... JS No not normally but all my testing has been on NTFS formatted disks. It has never taken an exceptionally long time. My disks would never, however, present the type of challenge that I have seen others bring to these newsgroups. BTW Defraggler works equally well in Vista but most of my use has been with Windows XP. If you have multi fragmented very large files I would tackle the small files before taking on a big one. Also eliminate temporary files using cCleaner first. It is quite a bit quicker than Disk Defragmenter -- Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JS wrote: Gerry Based on your earlier post I downloaded Defraggler to evaluate it also. The test PC had a clean install of XP SP3 plus a bunch of test and diagnostic utilities as this is a new PC I just finished building. Drive is FAT32 with 26% used and highly fragmented. Running Defraggler now and it taking what appears to be an awful long time an still is only 50% complete. Do you find that Defraggler is also slow? "Gerry" wrote in message ... Leo None that are worth paying for! In most situations the Disk Defragmenter coming with Windows XP does a perfectly adequate job. Remember it is important to run Disk CleanUp ( or better still cCleaner ) before Disk Defragmenter to get the best results. Where there is a large fragmented file and limited free disk space Defraggler is useful. You can defragment individual files. An interesting relatively new entrant to the market is Defraggler (freeware for home users) which I am currently testing. It is worth looking at and does not with any negative reports. It also comes from the software house providing cCleaner: http://www.defraggler.com/features -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...... wrote: Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo
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March 26th 09, 05:49 PM
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JS
What was the cluster size on the FAT32 partition? -- Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JS wrote: Thanks, I'll try it on one of my NTFS partitions. "Gerry" wrote in message ... JS No not normally but all my testing has been on NTFS formatted disks. It has never taken an exceptionally long time. My disks would never, however, present the type of challenge that I have seen others bring to these newsgroups. BTW Defraggler works equally well in Vista but most of my use has been with Windows XP. If you have multi fragmented very large files I would tackle the small files before taking on a big one. Also eliminate temporary files using cCleaner first. It is quite a bit quicker than Disk Defragmenter -- Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JS wrote: Gerry Based on your earlier post I downloaded Defraggler to evaluate it also. The test PC had a clean install of XP SP3 plus a bunch of test and diagnostic utilities as this is a new PC I just finished building. Drive is FAT32 with 26% used and highly fragmented. Running Defraggler now and it taking what appears to be an awful long time an still is only 50% complete. Do you find that Defraggler is also slow? "Gerry" wrote in message ... Leo None that are worth paying for! In most situations the Disk Defragmenter coming with Windows XP does a perfectly adequate job. Remember it is important to run Disk CleanUp ( or better still cCleaner ) before Disk Defragmenter to get the best results. Where there is a large fragmented file and limited free disk space Defraggler is useful. You can defragment individual files. An interesting relatively new entrant to the market is Defraggler (freeware for home users) which I am currently testing. It is worth looking at and does not with any negative reports. It also comes from the software house providing cCleaner: http://www.defraggler.com/features -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...... wrote: Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo
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March 27th 09, 05:31 AM
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If you want to pay, get Diskeeper 2009. You already have a free one.
It is called Windows Defragmenter and works well enough. I haven't tried PerfectDisk, but even Diskeeper sets the defrag graphic to OFF by default in order to speed up the process overall. There is no benefit to a defrag graphic. All it ever shows is that the computer is doing something. Accurate it most definitely isn't.. Thnx BBB
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March 26th 09, 05:49 PM
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JS
What was the cluster size on the FAT32 partition? -- Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JS wrote: Thanks, I'll try it on one of my NTFS partitions. "Gerry" wrote in message ... JS No not normally but all my testing has been on NTFS formatted disks. It has never taken an exceptionally long time. My disks would never, however, present the type of challenge that I have seen others bring to these newsgroups. BTW Defraggler works equally well in Vista but most of my use has been with Windows XP. If you have multi fragmented very large files I would tackle the small files before taking on a big one. Also eliminate temporary files using cCleaner first. It is quite a bit quicker than Disk Defragmenter -- Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JS wrote: Gerry Based on your earlier post I downloaded Defraggler to evaluate it also. The test PC had a clean install of XP SP3 plus a bunch of test and diagnostic utilities as this is a new PC I just finished building. Drive is FAT32 with 26% used and highly fragmented. Running Defraggler now and it taking what appears to be an awful long time an still is only 50% complete. Do you find that Defraggler is also slow? "Gerry" wrote in message ... Leo None that are worth paying for! In most situations the Disk Defragmenter coming with Windows XP does a perfectly adequate job. Remember it is important to run Disk CleanUp ( or better still cCleaner ) before Disk Defragmenter to get the best results. Where there is a large fragmented file and limited free disk space Defraggler is useful. You can defragment individual files. An interesting relatively new entrant to the market is Defraggler (freeware for home users) which I am currently testing. It is worth looking at and does not with any negative reports. It also comes from the software house providing cCleaner: http://www.defraggler.com/features -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...... wrote: Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo
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March 26th 09, 04:47 PM
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Thanks,
I'll try it on one of my NTFS partitions. -- JS http://www.pagestart.com "Gerry" wrote in message ... JS No not normally but all my testing has been on NTFS formatted disks. It has never taken an exceptionally long time. My disks would never, however, present the type of challenge that I have seen others bring to these newsgroups. BTW Defraggler works equally well in Vista but most of my use has been with Windows XP. If you have multi fragmented very large files I would tackle the small files before taking on a big one. Also eliminate temporary files using cCleaner first. It is quite a bit quicker than Disk Defragmenter -- Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JS wrote: Gerry Based on your earlier post I downloaded Defraggler to evaluate it also. The test PC had a clean install of XP SP3 plus a bunch of test and diagnostic utilities as this is a new PC I just finished building. Drive is FAT32 with 26% used and highly fragmented. Running Defraggler now and it taking what appears to be an awful long time an still is only 50% complete. Do you find that Defraggler is also slow? "Gerry" wrote in message ... Leo None that are worth paying for! In most situations the Disk Defragmenter coming with Windows XP does a perfectly adequate job. Remember it is important to run Disk CleanUp ( or better still cCleaner ) before Disk Defragmenter to get the best results. Where there is a large fragmented file and limited free disk space Defraggler is useful. You can defragment individual files. An interesting relatively new entrant to the market is Defraggler (freeware for home users) which I am currently testing. It is worth looking at and does not with any negative reports. It also comes from the software house providing cCleaner: http://www.defraggler.com/features -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...... wrote: Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo
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March 26th 09, 04:27 PM
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JS
No not normally but all my testing has been on NTFS formatted disks. It has never taken an exceptionally long time. My disks would never, however, present the type of challenge that I have seen others bring to these newsgroups. BTW Defraggler works equally well in Vista but most of my use has been with Windows XP. If you have multi fragmented very large files I would tackle the small files before taking on a big one. Also eliminate temporary files using cCleaner first. It is quite a bit quicker than Disk Defragmenter -- Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JS wrote: Gerry Based on your earlier post I downloaded Defraggler to evaluate it also. The test PC had a clean install of XP SP3 plus a bunch of test and diagnostic utilities as this is a new PC I just finished building. Drive is FAT32 with 26% used and highly fragmented. Running Defraggler now and it taking what appears to be an awful long time an still is only 50% complete. Do you find that Defraggler is also slow? "Gerry" wrote in message ... Leo None that are worth paying for! In most situations the Disk Defragmenter coming with Windows XP does a perfectly adequate job. Remember it is important to run Disk CleanUp ( or better still cCleaner ) before Disk Defragmenter to get the best results. Where there is a large fragmented file and limited free disk space Defraggler is useful. You can defragment individual files. An interesting relatively new entrant to the market is Defraggler (freeware for home users) which I am currently testing. It is worth looking at and does not with any negative reports. It also comes from the software house providing cCleaner: http://www.defraggler.com/features -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...... wrote: Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo
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March 26th 09, 03:51 PM
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Gerry
Based on your earlier post I downloaded Defraggler to evaluate it also. The test PC had a clean install of XP SP3 plus a bunch of test and diagnostic utilities as this is a new PC I just finished building. Drive is FAT32 with 26% used and highly fragmented. Running Defraggler now and it taking what appears to be an awful long time an still is only 50% complete. Do you find that Defraggler is also slow? -- JS http://www.pagestart.com "Gerry" wrote in message ... Leo None that are worth paying for! In most situations the Disk Defragmenter coming with Windows XP does a perfectly adequate job. Remember it is important to run Disk CleanUp ( or better still cCleaner ) before Disk Defragmenter to get the best results. Where there is a large fragmented file and limited free disk space Defraggler is useful. You can defragment individual files. An interesting relatively new entrant to the market is Defraggler (freeware for home users) which I am currently testing. It is worth looking at and does not with any negative reports. It also comes from the software house providing cCleaner: http://www.defraggler.com/features -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...... wrote: Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo
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#12
March 26th 09, 11:29 AM
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On Mar 26, 1:25*am, "......" wrote:
Hi, Which is the best defrag tool (free/paid)? Whats the advantage of using a third-party defrag tool over Windows built-in tool? regards Leo At this place where I do some computer odds and ends, so many people that think their computer is too slow (often quite suddenly) just automatically think, or have heard that any perceived performance problem is a fragmented hard disk and the fix for just about any ailment is to defragment. Another good one is, I am running out of room on my hard disk, so I must defragment it to get more room. Why not try the Windows defragment tools? I think most people find them adequate. They will show you a nice colorful before and after picture, then take a long time to run and probably won't help much at all, but at least try it. Then you can download some other tools or pay for some and probably get the same results for your time and effort. You will likely still have your problem. Do some before and after timing and space comparisons and see what you get. Perhaps your disk really is fragmented badly and needs some help - could be. It would be interesting to know if the unknown problem you are trying to solve is remedied by defragmenting. It would be more interesting to know what the real problem you are trying to solve is. Or maybe you are just curious about fragments and don't have any problem to solve. Good for you. If you are having some performance issues, look for help with them by providing more details about the problem and your setup. Defragmenting does not solve everything.
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March 26th 09, 11:37 AM
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Thanks everyone. I am not having any problem with my system but I like
defragging my disk every month. I have been using auslogic for the job but now I want to uninstall all unnecessary software form my system to boost its speed. So I was wondering whether windows built-in defrag can do the job for me. regards Leo
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March 26th 09, 11:53 AM
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On Mar 26, 7:37*am, "......" wrote:
Thanks everyone. I am not having any problem with my system but I like defragging my disk every month. I have been using auslogic for the job but now I want to uninstall all unnecessary software form my system to boost its speed. So I was wondering whether windows built-in defrag can do the job for me. regards Leo ....oh yeah, after running whatever gets run to defragment, that after picture sure looks good - not so much red stuff as in the before picture, so this tells me that the defragment really did the job and. I told you! Look how fast it is now! (they say). But after a short while... Wait - my computer is slow again or even worse and I only recovered .01% free space. Therefore I must need a better defragment tool. People are funny sometimes. Good luck!
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March 27th 09, 02:04 AM
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Jose wrote:
On Mar 26, 7:37 am, "......" wrote: Thanks everyone. I am not having any problem with my system but I like defragging my disk every month. I have been using auslogic for the job but now I want to uninstall all unnecessary software form my system to boost its speed. So I was wondering whether windows built-in defrag can do the job for me. regards Leo ...oh yeah, after running whatever gets run to defragment, that after picture sure looks good - not so much red stuff as in the before picture, so this tells me that the defragment really did the job and. I told you! Look how fast it is now! (they say). But after a short while... Wait - my computer is slow again or even worse and I only recovered .01% free space. Therefore I must need a better defragment tool. Why would you expect defragging to give you more disk space? Where would that space come from? You don't seem to understand the concept of defragging. The process doesn't magically give you more room on your hard drive.
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