Win 8 vs 8.1 64 bit System Requirements

Of particular note
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...m-requirements

Windows 8 and 8.1
Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with support for PAE, NX, and SSE2
- http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...is-pae-nx-sse2

Windows 8.1 (not 8.0)
To install a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit PC, your processor needs to support
CMPXCHG16b, PrefetchW, and LAHF/SAHF

i.e. the rules changed slightly Win8.1 64-bit for some older processors
that function in Win8 but won't in 8.1


Who is most likely to be impacted...those purchasing full version 8.1
software to install on older 64-bit hardware (i.e. bare metal or clean
install when previously using and earlier 64-bit Windows o/s)that could
run or ran Windows 8 (but won't run 8.1)

If you are running 8.0 on old hardware and not being offered the 8.1
upgrade...the above might be a reason.


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...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

....winston wrote:
Of particular note
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...m-requirements

Windows 8 and 8.1
Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with support for PAE, NX, and SSE2
- http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...is-pae-nx-sse2

Windows 8.1 (not 8.0)
To install a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit PC, your processor needs to support
CMPXCHG16b, PrefetchW, and LAHF/SAHF

i.e. the rules changed slightly Win8.1 64-bit for some older processors
that function in Win8 but won't in 8.1


Who is most likely to be impacted...those purchasing full version 8.1
software to install on older 64-bit hardware (i.e. bare metal or clean
install when previously using and earlier 64-bit Windows o/s)that could
run or ran Windows 8 (but won't run 8.1)

If you are running 8.0 on old hardware and not being offered the 8.1
upgrade...the above might be a reason.

There is an 8.1 upgrade assistant on a linked page.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...oad-online-faq

Paul

Paul wrote:
...winston wrote:
Of particular note
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...m-requirements

Windows 8 and 8.1
Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with support for PAE, NX, and SSE2
- http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...is-pae-nx-sse2

Windows 8.1 (not 8.0)
To install a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit PC, your processor needs to support
CMPXCHG16b, PrefetchW, and LAHF/SAHF

i.e. the rules changed slightly Win8.1 64-bit for some older
processors that function in Win8 but won't in 8.1


Who is most likely to be impacted...those purchasing full version 8.1
software to install on older 64-bit hardware (i.e. bare metal or clean
install when previously using and earlier 64-bit Windows o/s)that
could run or ran Windows 8 (but won't run 8.1)

If you are running 8.0 on old hardware and not being offered the 8.1
upgrade...the above might be a reason.

There is an 8.1 upgrade assistant on a linked page.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...oad-online-faq


Paul

It's always a good idea to take advantage of available tools.
- not everyone follows that path


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...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

On 10/27/2013 5:01 AM, ...winston wrote:
Of particular note
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...m-requirements

Windows 8 and 8.1
Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with support for PAE, NX, and SSE2
- http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...is-pae-nx-sse2

Windows 8.1 (not 8.0)
To install a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit PC, your processor needs to support
CMPXCHG16b, PrefetchW, and LAHF/SAHF

i.e. the rules changed slightly Win8.1 64-bit for some older processors
that function in Win8 but won't in 8.1


Who is most likely to be impacted...those purchasing full version 8.1
software to install on older 64-bit hardware (i.e. bare metal or clean
install when previously using and earlier 64-bit Windows o/s)that could
run or ran Windows 8 (but won't run 8.1)

If you are running 8.0 on old hardware and not being offered the 8.1
upgrade...the above might be a reason.



When will Windows 7 stop being supported by Microsoft?

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The only real problems are avarice, anger and stupidity.

On 27-Oct-2013 06:02, Alias wrote:
On 10/27/2013 5:01 AM, ...winston wrote:
Of particular note
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...m-requirements

Windows 8 and 8.1
Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with support for PAE, NX, and SSE2
- http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...is-pae-nx-sse2

Windows 8.1 (not 8.0)
To install a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit PC, your processor needs to support
CMPXCHG16b, PrefetchW, and LAHF/SAHF

i.e. the rules changed slightly Win8.1 64-bit for some older processors
that function in Win8 but won't in 8.1


Who is most likely to be impacted...those purchasing full version 8.1
software to install on older 64-bit hardware (i.e. bare metal or clean
install when previously using and earlier 64-bit Windows o/s)that could
run or ran Windows 8 (but won't run 8.1)

If you are running 8.0 on old hardware and not being offered the 8.1
upgrade...the above might be a reason.



When will Windows 7 stop being supported by Microsoft?


http://support.microsoft.com/lifecyc...lpha=windows+7

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Leala.

On 10/27/2013 12:13 PM, Leala wrote:
On 27-Oct-2013 06:02, Alias wrote:
On 10/27/2013 5:01 AM, ...winston wrote:
Of particular note
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...m-requirements

Windows 8 and 8.1
Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with support for PAE, NX, and
SSE2
- http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...is-pae-nx-sse2

Windows 8.1 (not 8.0)
To install a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit PC, your processor needs to support
CMPXCHG16b, PrefetchW, and LAHF/SAHF

i.e. the rules changed slightly Win8.1 64-bit for some older processors
that function in Win8 but won't in 8.1


Who is most likely to be impacted...those purchasing full version 8.1
software to install on older 64-bit hardware (i.e. bare metal or clean
install when previously using and earlier 64-bit Windows o/s)that could
run or ran Windows 8 (but won't run 8.1)

If you are running 8.0 on old hardware and not being offered the 8.1
upgrade...the above might be a reason.



When will Windows 7 stop being supported by Microsoft?


http://support.microsoft.com/lifecyc...lpha=windows+7


OK, seven more years and then it'll probably do an XP and get extended
some more. Seven years should be enough for MS to get Windows 9 right
after the Me, Vista and 8 fiasco.

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The only real problems are avarice, anger and stupidity.

"Alias" wrote:

When will Windows 7 stop being supported by Microsoft?

Windows 7 RTM is no longer supported; it lost supported status on 9 April
2013.

Windows 7 with SP1 loses "mainstream" support (non-security-related
bugfixes) as of 13 January 2015, and loses "extended support" (security
bugfixes) on 14 January 2020. After the end of extended support users can
buy (for $BIGBUCKS) additional support contracts.

Since this is a Windows 8 newsgroup, I'll add that the corresponding dates
for the end of support for Windows 8 are 9 January 2018 for mainstream
support and 10 January 2023 for extended support.

Note that each of the above dates is a Patch Tuesday, as is the XP cutoff
date 8 April 2014.

Source: "Windows Lifecycle Fact Sheet"
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ucts/lifecycle

Differences between support models:
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy

Joe

"Alias" wrote in
message

OK, seven more years and then it'll probably do an XP and
get extended some more. Seven years should be enough for
MS to get Windows 9 right after the Me, Vista and 8
fiasco.


I guess it's true...hope *DOES* spring eternal.

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On 10/27/2013 12:44 PM, dadiOH wrote:
"Alias" wrote in
message

OK, seven more years and then it'll probably do an XP and
get extended some more. Seven years should be enough for
MS to get Windows 9 right after the Me, Vista and 8
fiasco.


I guess it's true...hope *DOES* spring eternal.


MS has a pattern with Windows:

Win 95 So so
Win 98 Good
Win Me Bad
Win XP Good
Vista Bad
7 Good
8 Bad

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The only real problems are avarice, anger and stupidity.

"Alias" wrote in message ...

K, seven more years and then it'll probably do an XP and get extended
some more. Seven years should be enough for MS to get Windows 9 right
after the Me, Vista and 8 fiasco.


A bit less than 7 yrs. Look at those dates closer
Mainstream support - about 1 more years
Extended support - about 6 years.

Extending the lifecycle of XP was an old-guard decision. None of that regime
remain and with o/s now being being released as updates and full versions
for prior o/s (no upgrades) the need to extend a lifecycle for any o/s would
be a foolish business decision.

By 2015, it's more likely at least one or two more versions of 8 and/or 9
will be
available all following the same pattern of update/full
version. By 2020 it could easily be Windows 10, 11 or 12.

One thing may be certain...anyone waiting for 9 or later 'getting it right'
is waiting for increased cloud integration and dependence and possibly
subscription based o/s.

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....winston
misfit mvp consumer apps

On 10/28/2013 12:31 AM, ...winston wrote:
One thing may be certain...anyone waiting for 9 or later 'getting it right'
is waiting for increased cloud integration and dependence and possibly
subscription based o/s.

Yuck. Time to recheck Linux.

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Alias

The only real problems are avarice, anger and stupidity.

On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 02:16:13 +0100, Alias
wrote:

On 10/28/2013 12:31 AM, ...winston wrote:
One thing may be certain...anyone waiting for 9 or later 'getting it right'
is waiting for increased cloud integration and dependence and possibly
subscription based o/s.

Yuck. Time to recheck Linux.

Don't worry, mass storage for general purpose computers is a narrow
application and will atrophy by windows 9. Recall IBM's 3850, useful
for insurance companies but didn't have wide usage.

On 10/28/2013 3:04 AM, Glenn wrote:
On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 02:16:13 +0100, Alias
wrote:

On 10/28/2013 12:31 AM, ...winston wrote:
One thing may be certain...anyone waiting for 9 or later 'getting it right'
is waiting for increased cloud integration and dependence and possibly
subscription based o/s.

Yuck. Time to recheck Linux.

Don't worry, mass storage for general purpose computers is a narrow
application and will atrophy by windows 9. Recall IBM's 3850, useful
for insurance companies but didn't have wide usage.


I agree but the subscription based OS was what yucked me out. MS is
already testing the waters with Office 365.

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The only real problems are avarice, anger and stupidity.

Alias wrote:
On 10/28/2013 3:04 AM, Glenn wrote:
On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 02:16:13 +0100, Alias
wrote:

On 10/28/2013 12:31 AM, ...winston wrote:
One thing may be certain...anyone waiting for 9 or later 'getting it
right'
is waiting for increased cloud integration and dependence and possibly
subscription based o/s.

Yuck. Time to recheck Linux.

Don't worry, mass storage for general purpose computers is a narrow
application and will atrophy by windows 9. Recall IBM's 3850, useful
for insurance companies but didn't have wide usage.


I agree but the subscription based OS was what yucked me out. MS is
already testing the waters with Office 365.


That's probably a concern held by a variety of consumers. For Enterprise
it might not be as significant.

Even today, one doesn't own Windows, just the right to use it.


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...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

On 10/29/2013 1:21 AM, ...winston wrote:
Alias wrote:
On 10/28/2013 3:04 AM, Glenn wrote:
On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 02:16:13 +0100, Alias
wrote:

On 10/28/2013 12:31 AM, ...winston wrote:
One thing may be certain...anyone waiting for 9 or later 'getting it
right'
is waiting for increased cloud integration and dependence and possibly
subscription based o/s.

Yuck. Time to recheck Linux.

Don't worry, mass storage for general purpose computers is a narrow
application and will atrophy by windows 9. Recall IBM's 3850, useful
for insurance companies but didn't have wide usage.


I agree but the subscription based OS was what yucked me out. MS is
already testing the waters with Office 365.


That's probably a concern held by a variety of consumers. For Enterprise
it might not be as significant.

Even today, one doesn't own Windows, just the right to use it.



Yeah, but you don't have to pay for that right every month you use it.

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The only real problems are avarice, anger and stupidity.