Stop Windows 10 grouping taskbar buttons?

On 10/6/2019 9:36 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 06 Oct 2019 02:46:27 +0100, Char Jackson wrote:

On Sat, 05 Oct 2019 19:12:47 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

How do I stop Windows 10 grouping taskbar buttons?
Now I don't mean when they actually get hidden and you have to click
"explorer" or "chrome" to see them all.
I mean the slightly less annoying "feature" that if I have two
windows belonging to one application, it insists on putting them next
to each other.Â* If I drag one along the taskbar, it pulls the other
alongside it.

That's just how it is. You can't change it.

Every version of windows has less and less configurability.Â* ****ing
communism.
I believe what you want is in the Settings, Rationalizations, Taskbar


There is a window Combine Taskbar Buttons with three options.
I believe the option you are looking for is Never in the window.

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Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 10/6/2019 9:36 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 06 Oct 2019 02:46:27 +0100, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Oct 2019 19:12:47 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

How do I stop Windows 10 grouping taskbar buttons?
Now I don't mean when they actually get hidden and you have to click
"explorer" or "chrome" to see them all.
I mean the slightly less annoying "feature" that if I have two
windows belonging to one application, it insists on putting them
next to each other.Â* If I drag one along the taskbar, it pulls the
other alongside it.

That's just how it is. You can't change it.

Every version of windows has less and less configurability.Â* ****ing
communism.
I believe what you want is in the Settings, Rationalizations, Taskbar


There is a window Combine Taskbar Buttons with three options.
I believe the option you are looking for is Never in the window.


It creates separate taskbar buttons for each instance of a application,
but what the OP is complaining about are those instance buttons are
"tethered' side by side and cannot be separated. EXAMPLE

[Notepad 1] [Notepad 2] [Explorer 1]

can note be arranged

[Notepad 1] [Explorer 1] [Notepad 2]

The two instances of notepad will move as a pair. Hard-coded behavior. I
think only option is replacement filemanager.

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On 06/10/2019 14:40, Commander Kinsey wrote:
[....]
Mine fit fine, because I don't litter my taskbar with icons to launch
stuff like you do.* That's what the start menu is for.* My taskbar has
the start button, a few applications that are running, a huge gap, then
the tray icons and clock.* Why mix running programs with non running
programs?* Very confusing, and rather like the way Apple does it.* I can
get 8 running programs along with the text so I know what document is
open, before it has to reduce the size or use a second layer.* 19"
monitor at 1600*1200.

What experience do you have of Apple operating systems?

I'll wager that you've not seen THIS facility before! ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MKy0zz_7gY

It took me a while to get it to work - but now it does! :-D

~BD~ wrote:
On 06/10/2019 14:40, Commander Kinsey wrote:
[....]
Mine fit fine, because I don't litter my taskbar with icons to launch
stuff like you do. That's what the start menu is for. My taskbar has
the start button, a few applications that are running, a huge gap,
then the tray icons and clock. Why mix running programs with non
running programs? Very confusing, and rather like the way Apple does
it. I can get 8 running programs along with the text so I know what
document is open, before it has to reduce the size or use a second
layer. 19" monitor at 1600*1200.

What experience do you have of Apple operating systems?

I'll wager that you've not seen THIS facility before! ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MKy0zz_7gY

It took me a while to get it to work - but now it does! :-D

Why would you do that, when you can use a bigger screen ?

https://i.postimg.cc/cJJ402ym/get-a-big-screen.png

The smaller black rectangles are Linux terminal windows
(normal sized, not adulterated, and establish the scale of things).

That picture is a sub-section of a 16000x16000 pixel .png,
a screenshot from a Linux desktop. The "Thunderbird" window,
using devpixels, has been made four times larger on purpose
(the intention was, so I could do OCR of screen text). The
theme-font-changer allows larger fonts to be used.

For some reason, the scroll bar on the Thunderbird window
disappeared, and I couldn't scroll to where I wanted to go.
Which also sucked...

If I posted the whole image on postimg, the server would tip over :-)

The LCD monitor is only 1440x900, and all I can do is
look at a 1440x900 "window", within a 16000x16000 screen.
But when I take a screenshot, I get the entire screen.
I just can't post it on postimg.

If I need to make room for a lot of icons, room is available.

Because of the problem of figuring out "where on the window am I",
I have a background picture which contains grid coordinates
about every 100 pixels or so. And then, if I know a window
has opened in the middle of the screen, I can quickly pan
over to the necessary coordinates ("8000,8000").

If I wanted, I could have a Taskbar which is 16000 pixels
wide, which should leave room for a few Notepad labels :-)

You used to be able to do that with Windows, but that's no longer
supported in 1903.

And the thing I was trying to OCR, I found another way to get
the information, so it turns out the OCR isn't necessary to
the project anyway. But I might still continue on with the
experiment, to see how well "screenshot OCR" works
"when the letters are big enough".

I'm testing out Linux Kraken OCR for this (rather than Tesseract).

Summary: "I'll see your kooky idea, and raise you a kooky idea"

Paul

In article , Paul
wrote:

I'll wager that you've not seen THIS facility before! ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MKy0zz_7gY

It took me a while to get it to work - but now it does! :-D

Why would you do that, when you can use a bigger screen ?

because it's *not* big. it's portable and also supports touch & pencil.

On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 08:35:42 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:

On 06/10/2019 14:40, Commander Kinsey wrote:
[....]
Mine fit fine, because I don't litter my taskbar with icons to launch
stuff like you do. That's what the start menu is for. My taskbar has
the start button, a few applications that are running, a huge gap, then
the tray icons and clock. Why mix running programs with non running
programs? Very confusing, and rather like the way Apple does it. I can
get 8 running programs along with the text so I know what document is
open, before it has to reduce the size or use a second layer. 19"
monitor at 1600*1200.

What experience do you have of Apple operating systems?

I'll wager that you've not seen THIS facility before! ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MKy0zz_7gY

It took me a while to get it to work - but now it does! :-D

Dual monitor support? Hardly new. I've got FIVE monitors running off my Windows PC right now. All sorts of old **** - two are DVI, two are VGA, and one was DVI but a cat damaged the connector so that's VGA too. A few adapters here and there and they all connect. I'm even using display port connectors on the PC to make VGA outputs.

On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 09:38:39 +0100, Paul wrote:

~BD~ wrote:
On 06/10/2019 14:40, Commander Kinsey wrote:
[....]
Mine fit fine, because I don't litter my taskbar with icons to launch
stuff like you do. That's what the start menu is for. My taskbar has
the start button, a few applications that are running, a huge gap,
then the tray icons and clock. Why mix running programs with non
running programs? Very confusing, and rather like the way Apple does
it. I can get 8 running programs along with the text so I know what
document is open, before it has to reduce the size or use a second
layer. 19" monitor at 1600*1200.

What experience do you have of Apple operating systems?

I'll wager that you've not seen THIS facility before! ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MKy0zz_7gY

It took me a while to get it to work - but now it does! :-D

Why would you do that, when you can use a bigger screen ?

https://i.postimg.cc/cJJ402ym/get-a-big-screen.png

The smaller black rectangles are Linux terminal windows
(normal sized, not adulterated, and establish the scale of things).

That picture is a sub-section of a 16000x16000 pixel .png,
a screenshot from a Linux desktop. The "Thunderbird" window,
using devpixels, has been made four times larger on purpose
(the intention was, so I could do OCR of screen text). The
theme-font-changer allows larger fonts to be used.

For some reason, the scroll bar on the Thunderbird window
disappeared, and I couldn't scroll to where I wanted to go.
Which also sucked...

If I posted the whole image on postimg, the server would tip over :-)

The LCD monitor is only 1440x900, and all I can do is
look at a 1440x900 "window", within a 16000x16000 screen.
But when I take a screenshot, I get the entire screen.
I just can't post it on postimg.

If I need to make room for a lot of icons, room is available.

Because of the problem of figuring out "where on the window am I",
I have a background picture which contains grid coordinates
about every 100 pixels or so. And then, if I know a window
has opened in the middle of the screen, I can quickly pan
over to the necessary coordinates ("8000,8000").

If I wanted, I could have a Taskbar which is 16000 pixels
wide, which should leave room for a few Notepad labels :-)

You used to be able to do that with Windows, but that's no longer
supported in 1903.

And the thing I was trying to OCR, I found another way to get
the information, so it turns out the OCR isn't necessary to
the project anyway. But I might still continue on with the
experiment, to see how well "screenshot OCR" works
"when the letters are big enough".

I'm testing out Linux Kraken OCR for this (rather than Tesseract).

Summary: "I'll see your kooky idea, and raise you a kooky idea"

You're referring to "virtual desktop" I think Windows called it. I never saw the point. If I can only afford or only have room for one monitor, I just use one monitor, and bring up one application at a time from the taskbar. If I want more room, I use more or bigger monitors so I can actually see everything at once.

On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 09:38:39 +0100, Paul wrote:

~BD~ wrote:
On 06/10/2019 14:40, Commander Kinsey wrote:
[....]
Mine fit fine, because I don't litter my taskbar with icons to launch
stuff like you do. That's what the start menu is for. My taskbar has
the start button, a few applications that are running, a huge gap,
then the tray icons and clock. Why mix running programs with non
running programs? Very confusing, and rather like the way Apple does
it. I can get 8 running programs along with the text so I know what
document is open, before it has to reduce the size or use a second
layer. 19" monitor at 1600*1200.

What experience do you have of Apple operating systems?

I'll wager that you've not seen THIS facility before! ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MKy0zz_7gY

It took me a while to get it to work - but now it does! :-D

Why would you do that, when you can use a bigger screen ?

https://i.postimg.cc/cJJ402ym/get-a-big-screen.png

The smaller black rectangles are Linux terminal windows
(normal sized, not adulterated, and establish the scale of things).

That picture is a sub-section of a 16000x16000 pixel .png,
a screenshot from a Linux desktop. The "Thunderbird" window,
using devpixels, has been made four times larger on purpose
(the intention was, so I could do OCR of screen text). The
theme-font-changer allows larger fonts to be used.

For some reason, the scroll bar on the Thunderbird window
disappeared, and I couldn't scroll to where I wanted to go.
Which also sucked...

If I posted the whole image on postimg, the server would tip over :-)

The LCD monitor is only 1440x900, and all I can do is
look at a 1440x900 "window", within a 16000x16000 screen.
But when I take a screenshot, I get the entire screen.
I just can't post it on postimg.

If I need to make room for a lot of icons, room is available.

Because of the problem of figuring out "where on the window am I",
I have a background picture which contains grid coordinates
about every 100 pixels or so. And then, if I know a window
has opened in the middle of the screen, I can quickly pan
over to the necessary coordinates ("8000,8000").

If I wanted, I could have a Taskbar which is 16000 pixels
wide, which should leave room for a few Notepad labels :-)

You used to be able to do that with Windows, but that's no longer
supported in 1903.

And the thing I was trying to OCR, I found another way to get
the information, so it turns out the OCR isn't necessary to
the project anyway. But I might still continue on with the
experiment, to see how well "screenshot OCR" works
"when the letters are big enough".

I'm testing out Linux Kraken OCR for this (rather than Tesseract).

Summary: "I'll see your kooky idea, and raise you a kooky idea"

Why did you delete one of the groups from the crosspost? You do realise the person you replied to probably won't have seen it as they only inhabit the workshop group? So you wasted your time.

Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why did you delete one of the groups from the crosspost?* You do realise
the person you replied to probably won't have seen it as they only
inhabit the workshop group?* So you wasted your time.

You raise more than one issue which is contentious.

- the thread *originally* started only in Win10 (say 'a/one group')
- along comes 'someone' (eg BD) who posts an off-topic reply (Apple in
Win10) and expands the groups by cross-posting, which I consider 'bad
behavior'
- (contention) I'm an 'anti-crossposter' - I do NOT necessarily
/respect/ the groups which a msg has been cross-posted, whether in an
initial msg or a reply, so I may trim all groups but one, where I read
the msg for my own replies
- people actually x-post into groups they don't even read/subscribe -
result fragmented threads caused by a mixture of x-posters &
anti-x-posters, like the debacle of mixing trimming context posters w/
non-trimming bottom posters and non-trimming top posters
- when a newsgroup message reply is made to reply to a particular msg,
that is not (necessarily) a reply TO that persona in the top attribution
line, but instead a msg is posted to /everyone/, like a bulletin board,
and a previous posted is attributed and cited for context for whatever
the poster's msg is addressing to *everyone* not just one attributed
- in this specific instance, I would say that Paul was restoring the
thread back to the Win10 group and not the a.c.w group that /you/
restored w/ your own x-post
- even tho' I'm an anti-x-poster, sometimes I do anyway

--
Mike Easter

Mike Easter wrote:
*- the thread *originally* started only in Win10 (say 'a/one group')

Oops. The original original :-) /was/ started x-posted, then 'forked'
into only Win10, then back to 2.

--
Mike Easter

Mike Easter wrote:
Commander Kinsey wrote:
Why did you delete one of the groups from the crosspost?* You do realise
the person you replied to probably won't have seen it as they only
inhabit the workshop group?* So you wasted your time.

You raise more than one issue which is contentious.

- the thread *originally* started only in Win10 (say 'a/one group')

No, the OP was crossposted to alt.comp.os.windows-10 and
alt.computer.workshop:

http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cop.z868vlojwdg98l%40picard.la n%3E

- along comes 'someone' (eg BD) who posts an off-topic reply (Apple in
Win10) and expands the groups by cross-posting, which I consider 'bad
behavior'

He did not "expand the groups by cross-posting", because it was
already crossposted.

[...]

- in this specific instance, I would say that Paul was restoring the
thread back to the Win10 group and not the a.c.w group that /you/
restored w/ your own x-post

See above. Paul snipped alt.computer.workshop. There was no
'restoring', because the OP was crossposted.

[...]

Mike Easter wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
*- the thread *originally* started only in Win10 (say 'a/one group')

Oops. The original original :-) /was/ started x-posted, then 'forked'
into only Win10, then back to 2.

FTR, I saw this response only after I posted mine.

Moral: Much ado about nothing.

On 18/10/2019 19:06, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 08:35:42 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:

On 06/10/2019 14:40, Commander Kinsey wrote:
[....]
Mine fit fine, because I don't litter my taskbar with icons to launch
stuff like you do.* That's what the start menu is for.* My taskbar has
the start button, a few applications that are running, a huge gap, then
the tray icons and clock.* Why mix running programs with non running
programs?* Very confusing, and rather like the way Apple does it.* I can
get 8 running programs along with the text so I know what document is
open, before it has to reduce the size or use a second layer.* 19"
monitor at 1600*1200.

What experience do you have of Apple operating systems?

I'll wager that you've not seen THIS facility before! ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MKy0zz_7gY

It took me a while to get it to work - but now it does! :-D

Dual monitor support?* Hardly new.* I've got FIVE monitors running off
my Windows PC right now.* All sorts of old **** - two are DVI, two are
VGA, and one was DVI but a cat damaged the connector so that's VGA too.
A few adapters here and there and they all connect.* I'm even using
display port connectors on the PC to make VGA outputs.

I expect all your equipment is connected together with bits of wire! ;-)

On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 00:04:46 +0100, Shadow wrote:

On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 22:34:22 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 20:58:14 +0100, Shadow wrote:

On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 19:10:12 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 09:38:39 +0100, Paul wrote:

~BD~ wrote:

What experience do you have of Apple operating systems?

......CUT_OT

Why did you delete one of the groups from the crosspost?

Because BD had changed the thread to Apple machines, which is
obviously OT in a Win 10 group in a thread about taskbars. The usual
phishing.
If the text deviates from the subject line, you should start a
new topic in the appropriate group(s).

No, you shouldn't. You're breaking up the conversation and people following it no longer see it. Grow up.

Completely OT phishing in a technical group?
The thread was " Stop Windows 10 grouping taskbar buttons?"

Do you not understand that in the English language sometimes the conversation drifts a bit? Do you get out ever?

I'm not the troll. Paul was correct in clipping the
follow-ups.

Followups should never ever be clipped. You **** up the conversation. Some of the people you're replying to won't even see what you said, therefore you're wasting your time.

PS I used two monitors for debugging 20 years ago. Softice.
Hardly a "novelty" for Windows. Dunno about Apples, I don't think
anyone here uses one.

I use 5. Two ain't enough.

A completely OS irrelevant question (OS groups removed):

Re-added, now **** off and don't do it again.

What for ?
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Why are you writing in code? WTF is []'s? Unless you speak in proper English I can't be bothered with pathetic little geeks like you.


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Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 00:04:46 +0100, Shadow wrote:

On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 22:34:22 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 20:58:14 +0100, Shadow wrote:

On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 19:10:12 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 09:38:39 +0100, Paul
wrote:

~BD~ wrote:

What experience do you have of Apple operating systems?

......CUT_OT

Why did you delete one of the groups from the crosspost?

Because BD had changed the thread to Apple machines, which is
obviously OT in a Win 10 group in a thread about taskbars. The usual
phishing.
If the text deviates from the subject line, you should start a
new topic in the appropriate group(s).

No, you shouldn't. You're breaking up the conversation and people
following it no longer see it. Grow up.

Completely OT phishing in a technical group?
The thread was " Stop Windows 10 grouping taskbar buttons?"

Do you not understand that in the English language sometimes the
conversation drifts a bit? Do you get out ever?

I'm not the troll. Paul was correct in clipping the
follow-ups.

Followups should never ever be clipped. You **** up the conversation.
Some of the people you're replying to won't even see what you said,
therefore you're wasting your time.

Do you know the *history* of alt.computer.workshop ?

It's a fair number of years ago now, but I wouldn't be caught
dead posting there.

It's a charterless group, and in the past it had some obnoxious
troublemakers in it. There were no posts related to computers
or workshops, at all in the group. In short, it was a dumpster
fire, and I have *zero interest* in adding that group to
my Subscribed list.

Consequently I *clip that group* based on its unsavory history.

If my response is lost, big deal.

If you notice my posting history, I quite frequently
preserve the Newsgroup line, even though I shouldn't,
and it's precisely to retain continuity. Other times,
I remove stuff. For example, if a user adds "Alt.test"
to a Newgroups, I remove that. Nobody carries out a
"conversation" in alt.test.

Paul