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Old April 27th 06, 01:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem
disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new
version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this?
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Old April 27th 06, 01:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on your
customer's computer and the end user may maintain the license for the
original Microsoft® OEM operating system software, with the exception of an
upgrade or replacement of the motherboard.

An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal
computer" to which Microsoft® OEM operating system software cannot be
transferred from another computer.

If the motherboard is upgraded or replaced for reasons other than a defect,
then a
new computer has been created and the license of new operating system
software is required.

If the motherboard is replaced because it is defective, you do NOT need to
acquire a new operating system license for the PC as long as the replacement
motherboard is the same make andmodel or the same manufacturer’s
replacement/equivalent, as defined by the manufacturer’s warranty.

"KDagnell" wrote:

Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem
disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new
version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this?

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Old April 27th 06, 01:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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CRaven wrote:
Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on your
customer's computer and the end user may maintain the license for the
original Microsoft® OEM operating system software, with the exception of an
upgrade or replacement of the motherboard.


False. I just upgraded mine (OEM generic) and it activated online no
problem, passed WGA no problem.

An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal
computer" to which Microsoft® OEM operating system software cannot be
transferred from another computer.


False.


If the motherboard is upgraded or replaced for reasons other than a defect,
then a
new computer has been created and the license of new operating system
software is required.


False.

If the motherboard is replaced because it is defective, you do NOT need to
acquire a new operating system license for the PC as long as the replacement
motherboard is the same make andmodel or the same manufacturer’s
replacement/equivalent, as defined by the manufacturer’s warranty.


False. That said if the OP's OEM is a branded OEM, you can't upgrade the
motherboard, only replace it with an identical motherboard. If it's a
generic OEM, you can upgrade any hardware you like. My EULA says
*nothing* about a motherboard.

Alias

"KDagnell" wrote:

Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem
disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new
version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this?

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Old April 27th 06, 01:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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KDagnell wrote:
Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off
my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and
I need a new version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding
this?


If you just add a new motherboard to your pc then you will not need to
transfer anything as windows is on the hard drive.
If you are installing to a new pc you can install your OEM onto the new PC
providing it is not stil being used on the broken PC. However, if your OEM
version is not one you purchased seperately but one you got preinstaled onto
the hard drive with a restore disc then it probably will not work. Most
preinstalled versions and their backups will only run on the PC it was first
installed to.

My Acer computer has an oem which is tied to the computer. On the product
key sticker it says "Windows XP Home Acer Incorporated" - that means its
tied to that machine. My new OEM Home which I bought yesterday has on it
"windows xp home oem software". Check what your label says.


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Old April 27th 06, 01:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under
centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already
used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license!

Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the first
reply to this post!

CRaven
Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist

"Beck" wrote:

KDagnell wrote:
Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off
my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and
I need a new version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding
this?


If you just add a new motherboard to your pc then you will not need to
transfer anything as windows is on the hard drive.
If you are installing to a new pc you can install your OEM onto the new PC
providing it is not stil being used on the broken PC. However, if your OEM
version is not one you purchased seperately but one you got preinstaled onto
the hard drive with a restore disc then it probably will not work. Most
preinstalled versions and their backups will only run on the PC it was first
installed to.

My Acer computer has an oem which is tied to the computer. On the product
key sticker it says "Windows XP Home Acer Incorporated" - that means its
tied to that machine. My new OEM Home which I bought yesterday has on it
"windows xp home oem software". Check what your label says.



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Old April 27th 06, 02:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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CRaven wrote:
Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under
centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already
used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license!


False. Read your EULA and get back to us. I am assuming, of course, that
you have a generic OEM. If you have a branded OEM, you can't do it for
technical reasons, not EULA reasons.

Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the first
reply to this post!

CRaven
Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist


I have three computers. All three have generic OEMs on them. I am not a
systems builder so that EULA doesn't apply to me, only the one I agreed
to, of course, and the one I agreed to says *nothing* about a
motherboard! In fact, I just upgraded the motherboard on one of my
computers and it passed WPA and all four WGAs so you were saying???

Alias


"Beck" wrote:

KDagnell wrote:
Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off
my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and
I need a new version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding
this?

If you just add a new motherboard to your pc then you will not need to
transfer anything as windows is on the hard drive.
If you are installing to a new pc you can install your OEM onto the new PC
providing it is not stil being used on the broken PC. However, if your OEM
version is not one you purchased seperately but one you got preinstaled onto
the hard drive with a restore disc then it probably will not work. Most
preinstalled versions and their backups will only run on the PC it was first
installed to.

My Acer computer has an oem which is tied to the computer. On the product
key sticker it says "Windows XP Home Acer Incorporated" - that means its
tied to that machine. My new OEM Home which I bought yesterday has on it
"windows xp home oem software". Check what your label says.



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Old April 27th 06, 03:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Wow a statement of fact - usefull in prosecution? The Question was wether it
is legal!

By Installing Microsoft OEM software - you are bound to the system builder
license wether you like it or not; you are also resposible for providing your
own support!

Just becasue you can activate it or pass WGA does not mean that you have a
legal or genuine Windows licensed machine (read WGA SITE) - I am not going to
further elaborate on this - there are more than enough pirates and license
evaders about already.

CRaven
Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist

"Alias" wrote:

CRaven wrote:
Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under
centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already
used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license!


False. Read your EULA and get back to us. I am assuming, of course, that
you have a generic OEM. If you have a branded OEM, you can't do it for
technical reasons, not EULA reasons.

Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the first
reply to this post!


I have three computers. All three have generic OEMs on them. I am not a
systems builder so that EULA doesn't apply to me, only the one I agreed
to, of course, and the one I agreed to says *nothing* about a
motherboard! In fact, I just upgraded the motherboard on one of my
computers and it passed WPA and all four WGAs so you were saying???

Alias


"Beck" wrote:

KDagnell wrote:
Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off
my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and
I need a new version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding
this?
If you just add a new motherboard to your pc then you will not need to
transfer anything as windows is on the hard drive.
If you are installing to a new pc you can install your OEM onto the new PC
providing it is not stil being used on the broken PC. However, if your OEM
version is not one you purchased seperately but one you got preinstaled onto
the hard drive with a restore disc then it probably will not work. Most
preinstalled versions and their backups will only run on the PC it was first
installed to.

My Acer computer has an oem which is tied to the computer. On the product
key sticker it says "Windows XP Home Acer Incorporated" - that means its
tied to that machine. My new OEM Home which I bought yesterday has on it
"windows xp home oem software". Check what your label says.




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Old April 27th 06, 03:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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CRaven became hysterical and wrote:
Wow a statement of fact - usefull in prosecution? The Question was wether it
is legal!


It is, at least according the the EULA I agreed to.

By Installing Microsoft OEM software - you are bound to the system builder
license wether you like it or not;


Not true. I am bound by what I agree to, not what's in your imagination.

you are also resposible for providing your
own support!


Big deal.

Just becasue you can activate it or pass WGA does not mean that you have a
legal or genuine Windows licensed machine (read WGA SITE) - I am not going to
further elaborate on this - there are more than enough pirates and license
evaders about already.

CRaven


I bought my generic OEMs at an authorized dealer. In Spain, nobody sells
retail XPs. NOBODY! One store does sell retail upgrade versions at 3.5
times the price of OEM. Needless to say, they don't sell very many
except to fools like you who believe the FUD posted on this and other
newsgroups.

So, hot shot, you were saying?

Alias

Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist

"Alias" wrote:

CRaven wrote:
Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under
centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already
used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license!

False. Read your EULA and get back to us. I am assuming, of course, that
you have a generic OEM. If you have a branded OEM, you can't do it for
technical reasons, not EULA reasons.
Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the first
reply to this post!


I have three computers. All three have generic OEMs on them. I am not a
systems builder so that EULA doesn't apply to me, only the one I agreed
to, of course, and the one I agreed to says *nothing* about a
motherboard! In fact, I just upgraded the motherboard on one of my
computers and it passed WPA and all four WGAs so you were saying???

Alias

"Beck" wrote:

KDagnell wrote:
Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off
my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and
I need a new version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding
this?
If you just add a new motherboard to your pc then you will not need to
transfer anything as windows is on the hard drive.
If you are installing to a new pc you can install your OEM onto the new PC
providing it is not stil being used on the broken PC. However, if your OEM
version is not one you purchased seperately but one you got preinstaled onto
the hard drive with a restore disc then it probably will not work. Most
preinstalled versions and their backups will only run on the PC it was first
installed to.

My Acer computer has an oem which is tied to the computer. On the product
key sticker it says "Windows XP Home Acer Incorporated" - that means its
tied to that machine. My new OEM Home which I bought yesterday has on it
"windows xp home oem software". Check what your label says.



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Old April 27th 06, 04:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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CRaven wrote:

Wow a statement of fact - usefull in prosecution? The Question was
wether it is legal!


Quote the License, you told the OP to read, where it mentions that the
motherboard cannot be replaced. You cannot because it is not in ANY
license.

By Installing Microsoft OEM software - you are bound to the system
builder license wether you like it or not; you are also resposible
for providing your own support!


Actually that is a recent change, which the OP may not have agreed to,
but then the SBL says nothing about the motherboard cannot be changed
either. Quote it if you can.

Just becasue you can activate it or pass WGA does not mean that you
have a legal or genuine Windows licensed machine (read WGA SITE) - I
am not going to further elaborate on this - there are more than
enough pirates and license evaders about already.


And more than enough idiots making licensing claims they cannot back up.


CRaven
Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist


LOL! Are you self-anointed too!

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Old April 27th 06, 02:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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CRaven wrote:
Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard
(except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install
an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM
license!


The upgrade of the motherboard is only a hardware upgrade and is not a new
pc. It would just require reactivation of the XP. As long as its not on
two pcs at the same time, the user can upgrade as many times as they like if
it is a standard OEM and not one which is tied to the PC.


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Old April 27th 06, 04:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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CRaven wrote:

Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard
(except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install
an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM
license!



Please quote the license where it mentions the motherboard.


Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the
first reply to this post!



Post the link to it so everybody can see that it password protected! No
End User ever agree to that BS.

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And rattle your walls
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Old April 27th 06, 04:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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kurttrail wrote:
CRaven wrote:

Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard
(except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install
an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM
license!



Please quote the license where it mentions the motherboard.

Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the
first reply to this post!



Post the link to it so everybody can see that it password protected! No
End User ever agree to that BS.


I was wondering when you would wake up ;-)

Alias
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Old April 27th 06, 05:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Alias wrote:

kurttrail wrote:
CRaven wrote:

Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard
(except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install
an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM
license!



Please quote the license where it mentions the motherboard.

Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the
first reply to this post!



Post the link to it so everybody can see that it password protected!
No End User ever agree to that BS.


I was wondering when you would wake up ;-)

Alias


http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=craven

I'd say the definition really fits.

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Old April 27th 06, 01:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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KDagnell wrote:
Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off
my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and
I need a new version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding
this?


There are many posts regarding this and many different answers and
interpretations. The short answer is you should have no difficulties if done
properly. There is nothing improper about repairing a system. I have done
this successfully. You will most likely be required to reactivate which is
what I did by phone. I was told there is never a problem if you are adding
hardware which includes every piece including the CPU.

Good Luck.


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Old April 27th 06, 01:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under
centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already
used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license!

Read the excerpt from microsoft OEM system builder website in the first
reply to this post!

The only way that a processor or motherboard can be changed (without
warranty issues) is on a Full Packaged Retail Product!

The lisence on OEM operating systems is married to the computer (the
Motherborad , CPU and other essential components) not the user and that is
specifically why reinstalling on a new motherboard is a breach of the license!

CRaven
Micrsosoft Licensing Sales Specialist

"Johnathan" wrote:

KDagnell wrote:
Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off
my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and
I need a new version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding
this?


There are many posts regarding this and many different answers and
interpretations. The short answer is you should have no difficulties if done
properly. There is nothing improper about repairing a system. I have done
this successfully. You will most likely be required to reactivate which is
what I did by phone. I was told there is never a problem if you are adding
hardware which includes every piece including the CPU.

Good Luck.



 




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