Is there any functionality the iTunes abomination does, for a dual-boot Win/Ubuntu PC that can't be done, better, WITHOUT iTunes?

Arlen Holder wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 12:52:47 -0500, nospam wrote:

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ftfy

Apologists, like nospam, prove to have only 7 responses to fact.
o None of them adult.


What a moron... that’s the kind of argument you make to a nine year old, or
didn’t you get that memo?

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On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 23:58:27 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

The only reliable kind of backup you can have is of media files
(like jpgs, mp3s, mp4s, etc..).

*You have _less_ functionality with iTunes, than without it.*
o *You also have less secururity with iTunes installed, than without it.*

While it's true what sobriquet (an adult) says above:
"The only reliable iTunes iOS backup is of media files"

The main point of this thread is that you have _less_ functionality with
iTunes installed on a desktop, than _without_ iTunes installed.

I already provided the _simplest_ example, which is this simple to test:

1. Without iTunes installed on Windows, plug any number of iPods into the
USB ports, and then simply those iPods with any number of MP3 songs you
want, from anywhere you want, until you can't fit any more songs on the
iPods.

2. Then install iTunes, and try the same thing (watch what happens).

HINT: *You have _less_ functionality with iTunes, than without it.*

On a Linux note, try this simple test:

A. On a dual-boot Windows computer, boot to Ubuntu & connect an iPad or
iPhone and slide any number of pictures, videos, VLC files, Acrobat PDF
documents, etc., back and forth, read and write, simultaneously, between
any USB connected device on that computer (iPads, iPhones, Android phones,
USB sticks, optical drives, etc., and of course both the Linux & Windows
filesystems) using the stock file manager that came with the desktop OS.

B. Then reboot to Windows, install iTunes, and try the same thing.

HINT: *You have _less_ functionality with iTunes, than without it.*

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You also have less secururity with iTunes installed, than without it.

In article , Arlen Holder
wrote:



*You have _less_ functionality with iTunes, than without it.*

false.

o *You also have less secururity with iTunes installed, than without it.*

only because itunes doesn't include a spell checker.

While it's true what sobriquet (an adult) says above:
"The only reliable iTunes iOS backup is of media files"

what he said is false.

The main point of this thread is that you have _less_ functionality with
iTunes installed on a desktop, than _without_ iTunes installed.

the main point in this and every other thread in which you post is to
troll.

I already provided the _simplest_ example, which is this simple to test:

1. Without iTunes installed on Windows, plug any number of iPods into the
USB ports, and then simply those iPods with any number of MP3 songs you
want, from anywhere you want, until you can't fit any more songs on the
iPods.

2. Then install iTunes, and try the same thing (watch what happens).

that example doesn't show what you think it does.

what will happen is that it will be easy to copy music, videos, photos
and more to any number of ios devices and classic ipods, managing each
one individually, all with just one click (or no click if configured to
do so automatically). it will also be possible to back up the *entire*
ios device locally, *not* in the cloud. there are also numerous other
features, far too many to list here.

in other words, *more* functionality, not less.

HINT: *You have _less_ functionality with iTunes, than without it.*

nope. exactly the opposite, in fact.

On a Linux note, try this simple test:

A. On a dual-boot Windows computer, boot to Ubuntu & connect an iPad or
iPhone and slide any number of pictures, videos, VLC files, Acrobat PDF
documents, etc., back and forth, read and write, simultaneously, between
any USB connected device on that computer (iPads, iPhones, Android phones,
USB sticks, optical drives, etc., and of course both the Linux & Windows
filesystems) using the stock file manager that came with the desktop OS.

B. Then reboot to Windows, install iTunes, and try the same thing.

and see that it's orders of magnitude easier with itunes than without.

HINT: *You have _less_ functionality with iTunes, than without it.*

hint: you're unable to accomplish the simplest of tasks, and are also
completely unfamiliar with what itunes can and cannot do.

On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 12:52:47 -0500, nospam wrote:
ftfy

Adults will note apologists have 7 responses to fact
o None of which are adult.

o Why do the apologists like nospam turn into instant children in the face of mere facts (e.g., ftfy)?
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/TZbkkqS3jv4/3_TTHgRpBwAJ

On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 19:48:44 -0500, nospam wrote:

hint: you're unable to accomplish the simplest of tasks, and are also
completely unfamiliar with what itunes can and cannot do.

Hi nospam,

*You have _less_ functionality with iTunes installed, than without.*
o You also have less security with iTunes installed, than without.

I repeat the simplest proof that you have _less_ functionality with iTunes
installed, than without iTunes being installed.

You _know_ this proof is valid - and yet - you brazenly deny that fact.
o It's what defines you apologists (you deny all facts you don't like).

The fact is I have _plenty_ of iPods, all with the older version of
SharePod freeware sitting on the iPod (it's not "installed"; it is just
sitting there), where, when I plug any of my iPods into any Windows
computer on the planet, I can doubleclick on that SharePod executable
sitting on the iPod, and up pops a Windows SharePod GUI that allows me to
slide MP3 songs from any drive of any sort plugged into that computer to
any iPod plugged into that computer.

Back and forth, any iPod, any MP3 song, from anywhere, to anywhere,
"Apple-defined libraries" be damned: all without any iTunes software.

Install iTunes, and you're instantly _restricted_ in what you can do.

I repeat the basic fact, despite the fact you don't like the fact:
o *You have _less_ functionality with iTunes installed, than without.*

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Apple apologists often prove to be fantastically immune to simple facts.

In article , Arlen Holder
wrote:

I repeat the simplest proof that you have _less_ functionality with iTunes
installed, than without iTunes being installed.

your proof shows the very opposite of what you claim, and also shows
that you're utterly incapable of simple tasks.

Arlen Holder wrote:
UPDATE:
o Key lessons learned using iTunes on Windows today...
"If I ever update iPadOS again, I'll do it over the air,
not via the [Windows] computer [with iTunes]!"


Why are you cross posting this in alt.os.linux? What possible interest does
Linux have as an os have with iTunes on Windows?

In message None wrote:
Arlen Holder wrote:

[ idiocy ]

Why are you cross posting this in alt.os.linux? What possible interest does
Linux have as an os have with iTunes on Windows?

Because he is an attention-whore troll.

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On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 18:18:31 -0000 (UTC), Lewis wrote:

Because he is an attention-whore troll.

Lewis,

I've advised you this many times, this week alone.

*You really shouldn't post what your brain thinks, Lewis.*
o Seriously.

You proved again, you completely whooshed on the facts, Lewis.
o You apologists call all facts "trolls" & "lies", by "Liars".

What's interesting is how _immune_ to facts apologists always prove to be.
o It's what makes you child-like apologists exactly what you prove to be.

HINT: Linux _is_ the Windows' solution (as explained many many times).
o Yet, apologists always prove to be fantastically _immune_ to facts.

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Apologists like Lewis always prove to own the comprehensive skills of a
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On 31 Jan 2020 02:49:53 GMT, None wrote:

Why are you cross posting this in alt.os.linux? What possible interest does
Linux have as an os have with iTunes on Windows?

*Every time you post, None, you prove to be _ignorant_ of the facts.*

As always, you completely missed even the obvious facts, as usual, None.
o Apple hasn't polluted Linux with iTunes; so, on Linux, it just works.

On Windows, when you add iTunes, you get _less_ functionality.
o Yet, on Linux, without iTunes, you have full functionality.

Did you not read (nor comprehend?) the oft-cited thread, None?
o Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/WqIDiVbawRs/pwxzu7LMCAAJ

Hint: On Linux, it just works.

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None always proves to be completely immune to even basic facts.

On 31/01/2020 19:00, Arlen Holder wrote:
On 31 Jan 2020 02:49:53 GMT, None wrote:

Why are you cross posting this in alt.os.linux? What possible interest does
Linux have as an os have with iTunes on Windows?
*Every t

You didn't even answer his question. He asked you "Why are you cross
posting this in alt.os.linux?" Answer this question only as we are NOT
interested in any of your so called tutorials.

On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 17:50:48 -0200, Adam wrote:

You didn't even answer his question. He asked you "Why are you cross
posting this in alt.os.linux?" Answer this question only as we are NOT
interested in any of your so called tutorials.

Hi Adam,

It's morons like you that exasperate adults who own adult cognitive skills.

Please realize that the fact you don't comprehend facts...
o Does not make those facts wrong.

It just proves you are a moron.
o *How did you _not_ comprehend that Linux _is_ the Windows solution?*

At the risk of having to repeat the obvious (which the cites _clearly_
explained in detail) to morons like Adam just proved to be...

First hint for morons, like "Adam" just proved to be.
o *Linux _reads_ the dual-boot Windows filesystem fantastically!*

Second hint for morons like "Adam" just proved to be:
o *Linux _reads_ and _writes_ the iOS filesystem perfectly!*

Third hint for morons like "Adam" just proved to be:
o *Linux doesn't natively run iTunes; on Linux, iOS access just works.*

Please, if you're a moron like Adam just proved to be, _read_ and
_comprehend_ the given cites.

The fact morons like Adam exist, is kind of scary.
o People like Adam prove to be fantastically _immune_ to facts.

I realize only people with adult cognition will comprehend this, but, the
facts remain what the facts clearly show, which is:
1. You have _less_ functionality with iTunes, than without, and,
2. You have _less_ security with iTunes, than without.

The fact you don't comprehend facts doesn't change that they're facts.

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Apologists like "None" are always proving themselves to be fantastically
immune to even the most basic of the simplest of obvious facts.

On 31 Jan 2020 20:17:52 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

Everything he posts is a troll. And cross posting to irrelevant
newsgroups is what trolls do. I'm surprised this has to be explained to
anyone.

Hi Jolly Roger,

I _love_ when you post, because you're the quintessential apologist!
o *You call all facts you simply don't like, to be "trolls".*

An adult conversation is just not possible with you apologists.
o *Where I provided _multiple_ well-documented cites, proving the facts.*
1. *You have _less_ functionality with iTunes, than without.*
2. *You have _less_ security with iTunes, than without.*

Those are simply facts.
o Well cited; well proven; obvious to _adults_ who read & comprehend facts.

And yet, you provide exactly zero (0) facts supporting your belief system!
o It's because apologists' belief systems often prove to be devoid of fact.

Why are apologists so deathly afraid of facts?
o I don't know why.

Having studied apologists for years, I suspect facts _threaten_ you.
o Facts instantly DESTROY your entire (imaginary) belief system.

It's as if a fifth grade bully still believes in Santa Claus
o Where marketing (brilliantly) provides the illusion of Santa Claus

In the case of Jolly Roger, he _only_ believes in the MARKETING illusions.
o So Jolly Roger reacts by calling all actual facts to be "trolls".

Because facts instantly DESTROY the (brilliant) marketing illusion.
o In this case, facts instantly DESTROY iTunes' illusion of functionality.

The facts remain:
1. You have _less_ functionality with iTunes, than without.
2. You have _less_ security with iTunes, than without.

The fact apologists hate facts doesn't change the fact they are facts.

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Apologists brazenly deny all facts they don't like, without even reading
the cites. That's because Apologists only believe in the illusions of
functionality (admittedly brilliantly) crafted by rather stellar MARKETING.

On 2020-01-30, Arlen Holder wrote:
Subject: Is there any functionality the iTunes abomination does, for a dual-boot Win/Ubuntu PC that can't be done, better, WITHOUT iTunes?

Ubuntu has been free of itunes since forver. I don't think there any
further discussing needed on that subject that needs to be
cross-posted into alt.os.linux

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In message Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2020-01-30, Arlen Holder wrote:
Subject: Is there any functionality the iTunes abomination does, for a dual-boot Win/Ubuntu PC that can't be done, better, WITHOUT iTunes?

Ubuntu has been free of itunes since forver. I don't think there any
further discussing needed on that subject that needs to be
cross-posted into alt.os.linux

But attention-whore trolls with tony feeble brains don't care that iTunes
doesn’t exist in any flavor of linux. He gets a widdle chubby from
posting idiotic **** to groups that do not want him and obviously
masturbates whenever anyone replies to him.

Killfile him and move on, deprive him of his perverse pleasures.

Or, imaging him clawing at the keyboard one-handed ever time he posts,
if that's your thing.

Arlen is so ****ing stupid, he constantly replies to people who *never*
read his messages.

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