Is there any functionality the iTunes abomination does, for a dual-boot Win/Ubuntu PC that can't be done, better, WITHOUT iTunes?

On 2020-02-02 09:57, Ken Blake wrote:


Adults don't reply to trolls. They killfile them.

+1

Ken Blake wrote:
On 2/1/2020 11:01 PM, None wrote:
Arlen Holder wrote:

Adults can do two things apologists never seem to be able to do:
a. Adults form a belief system which is _based_ on the facts

Adults don’t carry on with inappropriate cross posting after being asked to
stop.


Adults don't reply to trolls. They killfile them.




Normally yes, but Arlen keeps changing the spelling of his name to break
through killfiles, I believe Hell has a special room with his name on it.

On 2/2/2020 4:16 PM, None wrote:
Ken Blake wrote:
On 2/1/2020 11:01 PM, None wrote:
Arlen Holder wrote:

Adults can do two things apologists never seem to be able to do:
a. Adults form a belief system which is _based_ on the facts

Adults don’t carry on with inappropriate cross posting after being asked to
stop.


Adults don't reply to trolls. They killfile them.




Normally yes, but Arlen keeps changing the spelling of his name to break
through killfiles, I believe Hell has a special room with his name on it.


Yes, but if anyone doubted whether he was a troll, that should convince
them. Changing the spelling of your name is one of the marks of a troll.

But I can killfile the new name as easily as he can add it. He gets past
my killfile only once when he does that.



--
Ken

On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 03:58:02 -0000 (UTC)
Arlen Holder wrote:

o "Cybe R. Wizard"

Once again an invitation to crush your head? Glad to oblige.

10,000 tutorials you've written? Not a single living soul believes
that for an instant.

Message-ID:

Each time you sidestep or ignore the disclosing of your lies you show
yourself to be the lying duplicitous idiot that you are, Arlene Holdout.

You show yourself to be in possession of the brain of an infant. Give
it back! Only you can survive sans brain.

Here, once again, is a pointer to the biggest lie I know of that you've
so far told:
Message-ID:
You know the one; it's where you said that you've written TEN THOUSAND
tutorials.

Shut me up, Arlom, merely by showing that searchable list of tutorials
you've written. Hell, just show the list.

The instant that you show a viable list of TEN THOUSAND tutorials that
YOU have written I will shut up about it, I guarantee and promise.

Be a man and 'fess up to being a liar otherwise.

Failing to do either, you are just and only a liar. ...and not much of
a man, either.

A pathetic excuse for the worst aspects of a worthless and bad man is
what you are; not ever good enough to serve as a bad example.


Arelene Holdout said:
----------
"I have likely written over ten thousand tutorials, where at my last
company, I wrote over five thousand alone. On the Internet, I don't know
how many I have, but if you assume that I write one a day sometimes,
and at least one a week, I have many thousands "

I say that you are a liar and a poor one, easily seen through, at that.
Shut me up; prove me wrong.

--
Cybe R. Wizard

None writes:
Ken Blake wrote:
On 2/1/2020 11:01 PM, None wrote:
Arlen Holder wrote:

Adults can do two things apologists never seem to be able to do:
a. Adults form a belief system which is _based_ on the facts

Adults don’t carry on with inappropriate cross posting after being asked to
stop.

Adults don't reply to trolls. They killfile them.

Normally yes, but Arlen keeps changing the spelling of his name to break
through killfiles, I believe Hell has a special room with his name on it.

So killfile them again.

Personally it’s reached the point where I temporarily killfile everyone
who responds to them, too.

--
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

On 2 Feb 2020 23:16:03 GMT
None wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:
On 2/1/2020 11:01 PM, None wrote:
Arlen Holder wrote:

Adults can do two things apologists never seem to be able to do:
a. Adults form a belief system which is _based_ on the facts

Adults don’t carry on with inappropriate cross posting after being
asked to stop.


Adults don't reply to trolls. They killfile them.




Normally yes, but Arlen keeps changing the spelling of his name to
break through killfiles, I believe Hell has a special room with his
name on it.


If you can filter using a phrase in the headers, mixmin.net. You won't
see him or anyone that replies to him.

On Mon, 03 Feb 2020 04:19:36 -0600, Johnny wrote:

On 2 Feb 2020 23:16:03 GMT
None wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:
On 2/1/2020 11:01 PM, None wrote:
Arlen Holder wrote:

Adults can do two things apologists never seem to be able to do: a.
Adults form a belief system which is _based_ on the facts

Adults don’t carry on with inappropriate cross posting after being
asked to stop.


Adults don't reply to trolls. They killfile them.




Normally yes, but Arlen keeps changing the spelling of his name to break
through killfiles, I believe Hell has a special room with his name on
it.


If you can filter using a phrase in the headers, mixmin.net. You won't
see him or anyone that replies to him.

+1

BTDT so it doesn't matter haow many times he nymshifts in a pathetic
attempt to get round killfilters.

On 03/02/2020 10:03, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
None writes:
Ken Blake wrote:
On 2/1/2020 11:01 PM, None wrote:
Arlen Holder wrote:

Adults can do two things apologists never seem to be able to do:
a. Adults form a belief system which is _based_ on the facts

Adults don’t carry on with inappropriate cross posting after being asked to
stop.

Adults don't reply to trolls. They killfile them.

Normally yes, but Arlen keeps changing the spelling of his name to break
through killfiles, I believe Hell has a special room with his name on it.

So killfile them again.

Personally it’s reached the point where I temporarily killfile everyone
who responds to them, too.

FYI (a copy/paste)

Objective Troll Criteria

What defines a troll? That would seem to be an odd question to say the
least - but sometime you meet trolls that for reasons unknown refuses to
acknowledge that they are trolls, as if that somehow would affect their
credibility or something. Obviously, these peoples credibility is
already long lost. So, the idea is that you need a list of criteria for
someone being a troll to just check for ever such person you come
across, and to show them just how well they fit the criteria.
Note, however, that this isn't a definitive list of criteria and you
can't really make any conclusion made solely on checking off this list.
Someone matching just one item in the list isn't a troll, but someone
matching most of them most likely is a troll.

What is a troll?

Well, I suppose it's handy to define just what we're trying to determine
here first. A troll is, in usenet terms, someone who trolls. The word
"trolling" comes not from the unsavory creature generally found living
under bridges, but rather the act of trolling for fish.
So, the definition of a troll is easily defined as someone who posts to
get a specific type of reply, but that's way too loose a criteria to
apply generally. Especially when you're dealing with someone that will
try to obfuscate the matters by stating simply that "don't we all post
to get specific replies?" whilst trying to ignore the distinction
between the two types of replies on is after. So, we need that list -
and here is is. The example troll in this article is a "he", and will be
referred to as "he" or "him".

Why this criteria?

A poster in a newsgroup asked if there was such a thing as an Objective
Troll Criteria and asked me to provide it for him, so I did.

http://usenet.sandman.net/pages/trol.../TrollCriteria

On 2/3/2020 3:35 AM, William Poaster wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2020 04:19:36 -0600, Johnny wrote:

On 2 Feb 2020 23:16:03 GMT
None wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:
On 2/1/2020 11:01 PM, None wrote:
Arlen Holder wrote:

Adults can do two things apologists never seem to be able to do: a.
Adults form a belief system which is _based_ on the facts

Adults don’t carry on with inappropriate cross posting after being
asked to stop.


Adults don't reply to trolls. They killfile them.




Normally yes, but Arlen keeps changing the spelling of his name to break
through killfiles, I believe Hell has a special room with his name on
it.


If you can filter using a phrase in the headers, mixmin.net. You won't
see him or anyone that replies to him.

+1

BTDT so it doesn't matter haow many times he nymshifts in a pathetic
attempt to get round killfilters.



Can that be done in Thunderbird? If so, I don't know how. Can you, or
someone else, help?


--
Ken

Ken Blake wrote:
On 2/3/2020 3:35 AM, William Poaster wrote:
On Mon, 03 Feb 2020 04:19:36 -0600, Johnny wrote:

On 2 Feb 2020 23:16:03 GMT
None wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:
On 2/1/2020 11:01 PM, None wrote:
Arlen Holder wrote:
Adults can do two things apologists never seem to be able
to do: a.
Adults form a belief system which is _based_ on the facts
Adults don’t carry on with inappropriate cross posting after
being
asked to stop.
Adults don't reply to trolls. They killfile them.
Normally yes, but Arlen keeps changing the spelling of his
name to break
through killfiles, I believe Hell has a special room with his name on
it.


If you can filter using a phrase in the headers, mixmin.net. You won't
see him or anyone that replies to him.

+1

BTDT so it doesn't matter haow many times he nymshifts in a pathetic
attempt to get round killfilters.



Can that be done in Thunderbird? If so, I don't know how. Can you, or
someone else, help?

The Thunderbird "Message Filter" feature was written perhaps 10 years ago.

There had been an outstanding enhancement request, to add a filter.

Nobody really paid any attention to the request for around eleven years.

Then ten years ago, "Joshua Cranmer" decided to give it a go.

"Bug 16913 Opened 21 years ago Closed 12 years ago"

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16913

"Cursory examination shows that Pan uses only XOVER,
LIST NEWSGROUPS, LIST, and ARTICLE for getting articles.

Based on that information, my current plan of action is
to get article headers in one of three ways:

XHDR
XPAT
XOVER
HEAD

optimally using XHDR and falling back on HEAD if nothing else works...
Relevant RFCs: 977 (original), 2980 (common extensions), 3977 (modern).
"

"Commonly, XOVER is accessed then XHDR if a filter requires a header
not found in XOVER. That makes scoring on XHDR headers "expensive"
in that it takes two actions instead of one."

"My idea is to change the transition NNTP_XOVER - NNTP_FIGURE_NEXT_CHUNK to:

NNTP_XOVER - NNTP_XHDR_PROCESS - NNTP_XHDR_SEND
| ^ |
V | V
NNTP_FIGURE_NEXT_CHUNK NNTP_XHDR - NNTP_XHDR_RESPONSE

*******

Here is a picture of how to add a new header field type,
using the Customize option in the Tools : Message Filter.

I picked as my example, adding "Injection-Info" as a new
field type.

https://i.postimg.cc/pdMHrQ3L/thunde...age-filter.gif

I haven't tried a lot of this filtering jazz, so enjoy
your experiments :-) I don't know if they got it working
on incoming, or it only works as a post-filter. Some filter
I set up a few years back on some flood, only seemed to
post-filter (TB fetches messages, then you run the filter
over the box).

Summary: I never knew they worked on this so long ago.

Paul

On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:27:25 -0400, wrote:

Any way to copy w10 jpgs over USB to iphone8?
just thought to ask.

You have _less_ functionality with iTunes, than without it.

I have lots of iPads & Android phones...
o Where I copy anything I want to anywhere I want anytime I want
o Whether that's iOS or Android or Windows or Linux (or all at once)
o Read/Write... I treat the iOS device as a USB stick for this purpose

Which is why I call iTunes an abomination
o Because you have _less_ functionality with iTunes, than without it.

In summary:

1. You get the most power simply by dual booting to Linux (with Windows)...
o *Using iOS mobile phone or iPad as a read/write USB device*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/aaBnSphtefI

2. If you're a masochist, feel free to use the iTunes abomination...
o *Is there any functionality iTunes does, that can't be done, better, WITHOUT iTunes?*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/F-gWC05h1xQ

3. Which, as usual for Apple, Apple has _never_ tested sufficiently...
o *A zero-day vulnerability in iCloud and iTunes on Windows PCs*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/hftPQAEZr_g

See also:
o *Freeware alternative to iTunes that doesn't delete all your songs constantly*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/VxKFg4EB6wE
--
There's a reason Apple has the lowest R&D percentage in all of high tech.
(Hint: Their marketing budget is huge... and that's all they really need!)
(DoubleHint: Apple lovers believe what MARKETING feeds them to believe.)

In article , Arlen Holder
wrote:


You have _more_ functionality with iTunes, than without it.

ftfy

it's common sense that *adding* an app *adds* functionality that was
not previously available, which is normally the reason a new app would
be installed.

it does *not* remove functionality already present.

in the case of itunes, it makes many tasks much easier, sometimes
dramatically so. however, like any app, using it is entirely optional,
and a user can choose to do things without itunes if they prefer, even
if it requires more effort.

On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 19:12:05 -0400, nospam wrote:

ftfy

Hi nospam,

Play your silly games...
o They work rather well for you on the Apple newsgroups...

But your silly games don't work at all on non-Apple newsgroups
o You Apple apologists fabricate functionality that simply doesn't exist

*Only on Apple newsgroups, does anyone _believe_ your fabrications.*
o But on the adult OS newsgroups, you get your head handed to you, nospam.

Simply because people on Android, Linux, & Windows newsgroups
o believe in facts.

You apologists are so used to claiming imaginary functionality
o Where you apologists modify what I said, just to respond to facts.

There are three types of Apple Apologists, where you're TYPE I.
o Type I === always parrot MARKETING (but don't actually believe all of it)
o Type II === simply ignorant of what is _outside_ of the Apple ecosystem
o Type III === actually _believes_ everything MARKETING feeds them

No matter what type of Apologists, you only have 7 responses to fact:
o *What are the common well-verified psychological traits*
*of the Apple Apologists on this newsgroup?*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/18ARDsEOPzM

One of those responses is what you just did, nospam, which is to fabricate
an imaginary strawman that you created yourself, just so then you could
come up with a response (because you have no adult response to facts).

it's common sense that *adding* an app *adds* functionality that was
not previously available, which is normally the reason a new app would
be installed.

All you _can_ do, nospam, is parrot bull**** Apple MARKETING dogma.
o You forget we discussed adding iTunes actually _reduces_ functionality

o *Is there any functionality iTunes does, that can't be done, better, WITHOUT iTunes?*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/F-gWC05h1xQ

it does *not* remove functionality already present.

You constantly fabricate imaginary functionality for Apple products.
o At the same time, you ignore the huge iTunes abomination detriments.

As just one example, *iTunes adds vulnerabilities all over Windows!*
o Which, even Google proved, Apple has _never_ sufficiently tested for!

As another, iTunes habitually wipes out all your songs because of its
Draconian use model.

As another example, iTunes doesn't allow you to simply slide files over USB
both ways into and out of the visible user space on _any_ iOS device on the
planet (you don't have to even own the device), like the tutorial I wrote
allows...

in the case of itunes, it makes many tasks much easier, sometimes
dramatically so. however, like any app, using it is entirely optional,
and a user can choose to do things without itunes if they prefer, even
if it requires more effort.

I realize, nospam, most of the time you don't even _believe_ what you claim
o Which is why you're a _different_ kind of apologist than the others

The other two types of apologists actually _believe_ what they write.
o Type I apologist === nospam is the only one in this category (so far)
o Type II apologist === people like Alan Browne who are factually ignorant
o Type III apologist === people like Alan Baker & Jolly Roger - DK quadrant

Given you are much like an Apple MARKETING twin, in that you don't even
believe most of what you claim, I'll simply provide links to the facts.

Where adults will note I have quite a lot of experience with you apologists
o Apologists _hate_ facts because facts don't fit into your belief system.

FACTS:
o *Simultaneously slide Windows Linux iOS Android files back and forth over USB at 7GB per minute speeds using 100% native devices (no proprietary software needed)*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/WqIDiVbawRs/pwxzu7LMCAAJ

o *How to read/write access iOS file systems on Ubuntu/Windows over USB cable*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/z_KXY4IHLe0/OaFqueaaCAAJ

o *How to easily archive your iOS device and/or how to use your iOS device as a free USB stick (read & write)?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/5hE4byjF930/NLdxBd8NCwAJ

o *What's a good way to offload storage on an iPad directly to a 64GB USB flash drive?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/7OrCvaZxpGs/BU9cXgaNAQAJ

o *Easily turn an iOS device into a read/write USB stick - for free - in a few minutes*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/GkGHMGnvKkY/IzmteZ1JCwAJ

o *Why doesn't Apple just let you manage your iOS file system natively on Windows?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/WjeGznahZwc/O9Ob5F87EQAJ

o *How to read/write access iOS file systems on Ubuntu/Windows over USB cable*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/IFC52JXBQ1c/siiB7o49CgAJ

o *How to transfer iPad photos/videos to/from Linux/Windows over Wi-Fi LAN?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/YtpKpDhWm_s/1z7AO3jQCAAJ

o *Easiest way to move saved data from iPad mini to the Costco $300 128GB iPad 9.7" device?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/Wq-dZKnXO3A/wL8LfzKPAgAJ

o *How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux?*
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.linux/_e0czhOYSHo/WT_gxkGBD9cJ
etc.
--
Apple has low R&D spend because their MARKETING is all they really need.

Adding any Apple software to a PC is a death sentence for your security
(IMHO)...

Simply because Apple repeatedly doesn't even test their own iOS/MacOS,
let alone other OS's, for even the most obvious vulnerabilities.

o *Yet again, Apple didn't test its Windows software*
*for longstanding common vulnerabilities*
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/JVI-6A3ko38
--
There's a good reason Apple MARKETING spend is high while R&D spend is the
lowest of all high tech (nobody can find anyone with a lower R&D spend!)

In article , Arlen Holder
wrote:


o *Yet again, Microsoft didn't test its Windows software*

ftfy

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonk...soft-windows-1
0-update-warnings-printer-external-display-internet-connection-free-wind
ows-10-upgrade/
In new support documents published this week, Microsoft has
revealed that further ŒKnown Issues¹ in its latest Windows 10 updates
can break printers, cause external displays to go black and still
break Internet connections problems the company first recognized
last month. There is also a serious 'wormable' security flaw which
requires patching ASAP. So who is and isn¹t affected?
....
06/11 Update: Microsoft has confirmed a serious security
vulnerability which is capable of exploiting a network communications
protocol used in multiple versions of Windows 10 (1903, 1909 and
2004) and Windows Server. The vulnerability is wormable and
BleepingComputer revealed it could be used for data theft.
....
For printers, Microsoft states that users running Windows 10 version
1903 or later (that¹s all versions since May 2019) may find their USB
printer port goes ³missing² if they disconnect the printer then shut
down Windows.
....
For external displays, Microsoft has a similarly broad problem. The
company explains that any laptop or tablet with a touch screen that
is running Windows 10 version 2004 (also known as the ŒMay 2020
update¹), can cause an external monitor to flicker and/or go black
when you connect to it and duplicate your display.
....
Lastly, Microsoft has confirmed in its June 2020 Windows 10 security
updates, that there is still no fix for broken Internet connectivity
for anyone using an 4G LTE modem (such as the USB sticks sold by
carriers around the world) and running Windows 10 1903 and 1909.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/window...-looking-into-
these-10-issues-says-microsoft/
So far,*Microsoft has listed 10 open investigations into a range of
bugs affecting peripherals, Bluetooth, mouse input, and GPU driver
and display issues. * *

https://www.zdnet.com/article/window...osoft-admits-b
ug-breaks-storage-spaces-corrupts-files/
Microsoft has confirmed one more problem that could happen after
installing Windows 10 version 2004: its RAID-like data-protection
software, Storage Spaces, might malfunction.*

https://www.itworldcanada.com/articl...ndows-10-updat
e-2004-until-these-issues-are-fixed/431484
Windows 10 has had a turbulent update track record since its launch.
Examples of its critical update mishaps extend way back to October
2018 when Microsoft retracted the Windows 10 1809 update. Several
users reported that after upgrading to 2018, the content in their
custom Users directory, which includes My Documents, Videos, and
Pictures, were permanently erased without recovery options.