SP2 wrecked my PC

When I installed SP2 I started having numerous problems, it tried to
reinstall Microsoft applications, I started having hardware driver crashes,
hardware acceleration on the sound card failed and gave terrible sound etc.

But the main problem was that is made my PC virtually unuseable, it took
upto 10 minutes to boot up and although it is a P4 2.6ghz with 1gb of RAM it
ran like my old Pentium 75mhz, constantly chugging away with the hard disk &
CPU running at full speed and getting nowhere fast.

The only solution was to uninstal SP2 and reinstall XP, defragging etc only
makes thinks a little bit better.

My PC now runs fine, I would love to know when Microsoft will be sorting
this out and until then SP2 is going nowhere near my PC.

Currently it is not necessary to install SP2 if you keep your system updated
with Critical Updates, update your AV, use a popup blocker as well as run a
firewall.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


"SteC" wrote in message
...
| When I installed SP2 I started having numerous problems, it tried to
| reinstall Microsoft applications, I started having hardware driver
crashes,
| hardware acceleration on the sound card failed and gave terrible sound
etc.
|
| But the main problem was that is made my PC virtually unuseable, it took
| upto 10 minutes to boot up and although it is a P4 2.6ghz with 1gb of RAM
it
| ran like my old Pentium 75mhz, constantly chugging away with the hard disk
&
| CPU running at full speed and getting nowhere fast.
|
| The only solution was to uninstal SP2 and reinstall XP, defragging etc
only
| makes thinks a little bit better.
|
| My PC now runs fine, I would love to know when Microsoft will be sorting
| this out and until then SP2 is going nowhere near my PC.

Since sp2 has been installed on millions and millions of computer with no
probs, the logical conclusion would be that the probs you encountered were
specific to your setup and not the norm for sp2 installs. Did you prepare
your system correctly before installing sp2?(get rid of viruses, spyware,
check if programs or hardware drivers need patches or updating, etc.) If you
do these things sp2 usually installs without a problem.
MS is going to sort out your computer as sp2 works fine. I'd suggest you
prepare correctly, do research on what hardware and software your computer
has and if it's sp2 compatable, update and clean as required, and try sp2
again.
If you have an oem machine, contact the maker as many oem machines have
proprietary junk in them.

"SteC" wrote in message

When I installed SP2 I started having numerous problems, it tried to
reinstall Microsoft applications, I started having hardware driver
crashes, hardware acceleration on the sound card failed and gave
terrible sound etc.

But the main problem was that is made my PC virtually unuseable, it
took upto 10 minutes to boot up and although it is a P4 2.6ghz with
1gb of RAM it ran like my old Pentium 75mhz, constantly chugging away
with the hard disk & CPU running at full speed and getting nowhere
fast.

The only solution was to uninstal SP2 and reinstall XP, defragging
etc only makes thinks a little bit better.

My PC now runs fine, I would love to know when Microsoft will be
sorting this out and until then SP2 is going nowhere near my PC.

How to successfully install Windows XP Service Pack 2:
http://www.fixyourwindows.com/winxpsp2install.htm

Good Luck!
---
How to optimize Windows XP, 2000, ME
for the best performance (Step-by-step Visual Guide):
http://www.fixyourwindows.com

Spyware/Virus Removal and Prevention:
http://www.fixyourwindows.com/windowsxpsolutions.htm
(Links to online virus scans on the same page)

Congratulations Harry!
It is great to see at least one MVP not afraid to give the correct answer
regarding SP2.
Some defend it so strongly you think it was their own baby.

Testy

"Harry Ohrn" wrote in message
...
Currently it is not necessary to install SP2 if you keep your system
updated
with Critical Updates, update your AV, use a popup blocker as well as run
a
firewall.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


"SteC" wrote in message
...
| When I installed SP2 I started having numerous problems, it tried to
| reinstall Microsoft applications, I started having hardware driver
crashes,
| hardware acceleration on the sound card failed and gave terrible sound
etc.
|
| But the main problem was that is made my PC virtually unuseable, it took
| upto 10 minutes to boot up and although it is a P4 2.6ghz with 1gb of
RAM
it
| ran like my old Pentium 75mhz, constantly chugging away with the hard
disk
&
| CPU running at full speed and getting nowhere fast.
|
| The only solution was to uninstal SP2 and reinstall XP, defragging etc
only
| makes thinks a little bit better.
|
| My PC now runs fine, I would love to know when Microsoft will be sorting
| this out and until then SP2 is going nowhere near my PC.

Phil,

I did follow the instructions to prep my PC for the install of SP2 and if
you read all the posts on the XP newsgroups there are many others who
experienced similar problems.

Most users who have problems wont even be aware of this type of forum so I
fear the posts on here is the tip of the iceberg.

Before SP2 was launched there was quite a lot in the PC mags doubting
whether or not you shoud do the install and reading the posts on this forum,
I think the answer is not to install.

Harry Ohrm makes some valid points as I have Norton Antivirus & Firewall
(weekly system scans), hardware firewall and at least 3 spyware programs run
every week therfore SP2 currently is not worth the hassle or risk to my PC.

"Phil" wrote:

Since sp2 has been installed on millions and millions of computer with no
probs, the logical conclusion would be that the probs you encountered were
specific to your setup and not the norm for sp2 installs. Did you prepare
your system correctly before installing sp2?(get rid of viruses, spyware,
check if programs or hardware drivers need patches or updating, etc.) If you
do these things sp2 usually installs without a problem.
MS is going to sort out your computer as sp2 works fine. I'd suggest you
prepare correctly, do research on what hardware and software your computer
has and if it's sp2 compatable, update and clean as required, and try sp2
again.
If you have an oem machine, contact the maker as many oem machines have
proprietary junk in them.

"SteC" wrote in message

When I installed SP2 I started having numerous problems, it tried to
reinstall Microsoft applications, I started having hardware driver
crashes, hardware acceleration on the sound card failed and gave
terrible sound etc.

But the main problem was that is made my PC virtually unuseable, it
took upto 10 minutes to boot up and although it is a P4 2.6ghz with
1gb of RAM it ran like my old Pentium 75mhz, constantly chugging away
with the hard disk & CPU running at full speed and getting nowhere
fast.

The only solution was to uninstal SP2 and reinstall XP, defragging
etc only makes thinks a little bit better.

My PC now runs fine, I would love to know when Microsoft will be
sorting this out and until then SP2 is going nowhere near my PC.

David,

If you dont have anything constructive or informative to say, why bother!



"David Senior [MVP - Most Valuable Provoc" wrote:

This is very unusual. the only problems we have come across in this newsgroup is when Kelly (our babushka) tried to apply a plastic patch of SP2 to her face and it failed. She is very suicidal now and never shows her face in the public.

Hope this doesn't prove useful!
http://www.microscum.com/ns/mlslies/index.htm



SteC wrote:

When I installed SP2 I started having numerous problems, it tried to
reinstall Microsoft applications, I started having hardware driver crashes,
hardware acceleration on the sound card failed and gave terrible sound etc.

But the main problem was that is made my PC virtually unuseable, it took
upto 10 minutes to boot up and although it is a P4 2.6ghz with 1gb of RAM it
ran like my old Pentium 75mhz, constantly chugging away with the hard disk &
CPU running at full speed and getting nowhere fast.

The only solution was to uninstal SP2 and reinstall XP, defragging etc only
makes thinks a little bit better.

My PC now runs fine, I would love to know when Microsoft will be sorting
this out and until then SP2 is going nowhere near my PC.

--
I use non Microsoft products wherever possible which requires no activation.

I use Netscape 7.2 as my default browser which has everything I need for my work.

I believe in good Financial Management!! I do not believe in enriching rich jerks!

This is very unusual. the only problems we have come across in this newsgroup is when Kelly (our babushka) tried to apply a plastic patch of SP2 to her face and it failed. She is very suicidal now and never shows her face in the public.

Hope this doesn't prove useful!
http://www.microscum.com/ns/mlslies/index.htm



SteC wrote:

When I installed SP2 I started having numerous problems, it tried to
reinstall Microsoft applications, I started having hardware driver crashes,
hardware acceleration on the sound card failed and gave terrible sound etc.

But the main problem was that is made my PC virtually unuseable, it took
upto 10 minutes to boot up and although it is a P4 2.6ghz with 1gb of RAM it
ran like my old Pentium 75mhz, constantly chugging away with the hard disk &
CPU running at full speed and getting nowhere fast.

The only solution was to uninstal SP2 and reinstall XP, defragging etc only
makes thinks a little bit better.

My PC now runs fine, I would love to know when Microsoft will be sorting
this out and until then SP2 is going nowhere near my PC.

--
I use non Microsoft products wherever possible which requires no activation.

I use Netscape 7.2 as my default browser which has everything I need for my work.

I believe in good Financial Management!! I do not believe in enriching rich jerks!

This is very unusual. the only problems we have come across in this newsgroup is when Kelly (our babushka) tried to apply a plastic patch of SP2 to her face and it failed. She is very suicidal now and never shows her face in the public.

Hope this doesn't prove useful!
http://www.microscum.com/ns/mlslies/index.htm



SteC wrote:

When I installed SP2 I started having numerous problems, it tried to
reinstall Microsoft applications, I started having hardware driver crashes,
hardware acceleration on the sound card failed and gave terrible sound etc.

But the main problem was that is made my PC virtually unuseable, it took
upto 10 minutes to boot up and although it is a P4 2.6ghz with 1gb of RAM it
ran like my old Pentium 75mhz, constantly chugging away with the hard disk &
CPU running at full speed and getting nowhere fast.

The only solution was to uninstal SP2 and reinstall XP, defragging etc only
makes thinks a little bit better.

My PC now runs fine, I would love to know when Microsoft will be sorting
this out and until then SP2 is going nowhere near my PC.

--
I use non Microsoft products wherever possible which requires no activation.

I use Netscape 7.2 as my default browser which has everything I need for my work.

I believe in good Financial Management!! I do not believe in enriching rich jerks!

To each his own I guess. I've done over 50 sp2 installs and the worst
problem was a program had to be reinstalled. Other than that all the
installs have gone fine. Most were good machines, some of which I built for
customers, a few junk hp's and dells, but those worked fine as well. Sorry
your machine can't handle sp2 as I believe it's worth it to install.

"SteC" wrote in message
news
Phil,

I did follow the instructions to prep my PC for the install of SP2
and if you read all the posts on the XP newsgroups there are many
others who experienced similar problems.

Most users who have problems wont even be aware of this type of forum
so I fear the posts on here is the tip of the iceberg.

Before SP2 was launched there was quite a lot in the PC mags doubting
whether or not you shoud do the install and reading the posts on this
forum, I think the answer is not to install.

Harry Ohrm makes some valid points as I have Norton Antivirus &
Firewall (weekly system scans), hardware firewall and at least 3
spyware programs run every week therfore SP2 currently is not worth
the hassle or risk to my PC.

"Phil" wrote:

Since sp2 has been installed on millions and millions of computer
with no probs, the logical conclusion would be that the probs you
encountered were specific to your setup and not the norm for sp2
installs. Did you prepare your system correctly before installing
sp2?(get rid of viruses, spyware, check if programs or hardware
drivers need patches or updating, etc.) If you do these things sp2
usually installs without a problem.
MS is going to sort out your computer as sp2 works fine. I'd suggest
you prepare correctly, do research on what hardware and software
your computer has and if it's sp2 compatable, update and clean as
required, and try sp2 again.
If you have an oem machine, contact the maker as many oem machines
have proprietary junk in them.

"SteC" wrote in message

When I installed SP2 I started having numerous problems, it tried to
reinstall Microsoft applications, I started having hardware driver
crashes, hardware acceleration on the sound card failed and gave
terrible sound etc.

But the main problem was that is made my PC virtually unuseable, it
took upto 10 minutes to boot up and although it is a P4 2.6ghz with
1gb of RAM it ran like my old Pentium 75mhz, constantly chugging
away with the hard disk & CPU running at full speed and getting
nowhere fast.

The only solution was to uninstal SP2 and reinstall XP, defragging
etc only makes thinks a little bit better.

My PC now runs fine, I would love to know when Microsoft will be
sorting this out and until then SP2 is going nowhere near my PC.

Phil,
The problem I see is that a novice user won't know to get the prep
information before accepting the Windows Update message that SP2 is ready to
install. I, myself, encountered a problem with my MCE PC after upgrading to
SP2. I physically had to replace the DVD +R drive to get past the PC
stopping at the AGP driver (Ran safe mode).

"Phil" wrote:

To each his own I guess. I've done over 50 sp2 installs and the worst
problem was a program had to be reinstalled. Other than that all the
installs have gone fine. Most were good machines, some of which I built for
customers, a few junk hp's and dells, but those worked fine as well. Sorry
your machine can't handle sp2 as I believe it's worth it to install.

"SteC" wrote in message
news
Phil,

I did follow the instructions to prep my PC for the install of SP2
and if you read all the posts on the XP newsgroups there are many
others who experienced similar problems.

Most users who have problems wont even be aware of this type of forum
so I fear the posts on here is the tip of the iceberg.

Before SP2 was launched there was quite a lot in the PC mags doubting
whether or not you shoud do the install and reading the posts on this
forum, I think the answer is not to install.

Harry Ohrm makes some valid points as I have Norton Antivirus &
Firewall (weekly system scans), hardware firewall and at least 3
spyware programs run every week therfore SP2 currently is not worth
the hassle or risk to my PC.

"Phil" wrote:

Since sp2 has been installed on millions and millions of computer
with no probs, the logical conclusion would be that the probs you
encountered were specific to your setup and not the norm for sp2
installs. Did you prepare your system correctly before installing
sp2?(get rid of viruses, spyware, check if programs or hardware
drivers need patches or updating, etc.) If you do these things sp2
usually installs without a problem.
MS is going to sort out your computer as sp2 works fine. I'd suggest
you prepare correctly, do research on what hardware and software
your computer has and if it's sp2 compatable, update and clean as
required, and try sp2 again.
If you have an oem machine, contact the maker as many oem machines
have proprietary junk in them.

"SteC" wrote in message

When I installed SP2 I started having numerous problems, it tried to
reinstall Microsoft applications, I started having hardware driver
crashes, hardware acceleration on the sound card failed and gave
terrible sound etc.

But the main problem was that is made my PC virtually unuseable, it
took upto 10 minutes to boot up and although it is a P4 2.6ghz with
1gb of RAM it ran like my old Pentium 75mhz, constantly chugging
away with the hard disk & CPU running at full speed and getting
nowhere fast.

The only solution was to uninstal SP2 and reinstall XP, defragging
etc only makes thinks a little bit better.

My PC now runs fine, I would love to know when Microsoft will be
sorting this out and until then SP2 is going nowhere near my PC.

Why on earth would you trash Kelly? She is the nicest, most
helpful person here.




-----Original Message-----
This is very unusual. the only problems we have come
across in this newsgroup is when Kelly (our babushka) tried
to apply a plastic patch of SP2 to her face and it failed.
She is very suicidal now and never shows her face in the
public.

Hope this doesn't prove useful!
http://www.microscum.com/ns/mlslies/index.htm



SteC wrote:

When I installed SP2 I started having numerous problems,
it tried to
reinstall Microsoft applications, I started having
hardware driver crashes,
hardware acceleration on the sound card failed and gave
terrible sound etc.

But the main problem was that is made my PC virtually
unuseable, it took
upto 10 minutes to boot up and although it is a P4
2.6ghz with 1gb of RAM it
ran like my old Pentium 75mhz, constantly chugging away
with the hard disk &
CPU running at full speed and getting nowhere fast.

The only solution was to uninstal SP2 and reinstall XP,
defragging etc only
makes thinks a little bit better.

My PC now runs fine, I would love to know when Microsoft
will be sorting
this out and until then SP2 is going nowhere near my PC.

--
I use non Microsoft products wherever possible which
requires no activation.

I use Netscape 7.2 as my default browser which has
everything I need for my work.

I believe in good Financial Management!! I do not believe
in enriching rich jerks!




.

You're talking to the wrong person here about what a novice should and
doesn't know about their tool, the computer. A novice should know this stuff
and if they don't they should find out about it. If you have a computer you
need to learn how to maintain it correctly. This includes installing
operating systems and service packs. If you don't have the time or want to
learn, then step aside and let others who do or want to. A computer is not
an appliance and it's not a toy. It's an expensive tool that should be used
correctly, so others don't suffer from your mistakes. IMO, marketing a
computer like an appliance to the masses is a mistake for the computer
industry at this time, but we all know that money talks......
Before they install sp2, if autoupdates downloaded it already, the user
still has time to prep before they say, go ahead and install. If they have
autoupdates set to download and install without asking you, then they are
relying on someone else to maintain there tool for them. Remember the old
saying....... if you want something done right, then do it yourself.

"californiaheel" wrote in
message
Phil,
The problem I see is that a novice user won't know to get the prep
information before accepting the Windows Update message that SP2 is
ready to install. I, myself, encountered a problem with my MCE PC
after upgrading to SP2. I physically had to replace the DVD +R drive
to get past the PC stopping at the AGP driver (Ran safe mode).

"Phil" wrote:

To each his own I guess. I've done over 50 sp2 installs and the worst
problem was a program had to be reinstalled. Other than that all the
installs have gone fine. Most were good machines, some of which I
built for customers, a few junk hp's and dells, but those worked
fine as well. Sorry your machine can't handle sp2 as I believe it's
worth it to install.

"SteC" wrote in message
news
Phil,

I did follow the instructions to prep my PC for the install of SP2
and if you read all the posts on the XP newsgroups there are many
others who experienced similar problems.

Most users who have problems wont even be aware of this type of
forum so I fear the posts on here is the tip of the iceberg.

Before SP2 was launched there was quite a lot in the PC mags
doubting whether or not you shoud do the install and reading the
posts on this forum, I think the answer is not to install.

Harry Ohrm makes some valid points as I have Norton Antivirus &
Firewall (weekly system scans), hardware firewall and at least 3
spyware programs run every week therfore SP2 currently is not worth
the hassle or risk to my PC.

"Phil" wrote:

Since sp2 has been installed on millions and millions of computer
with no probs, the logical conclusion would be that the probs you
encountered were specific to your setup and not the norm for sp2
installs. Did you prepare your system correctly before installing
sp2?(get rid of viruses, spyware, check if programs or hardware
drivers need patches or updating, etc.) If you do these things sp2
usually installs without a problem.
MS is going to sort out your computer as sp2 works fine. I'd
suggest you prepare correctly, do research on what hardware and
software your computer has and if it's sp2 compatable, update and
clean as required, and try sp2 again.
If you have an oem machine, contact the maker as many oem machines
have proprietary junk in them.

"SteC" wrote in message

When I installed SP2 I started having numerous problems, it tried
to reinstall Microsoft applications, I started having hardware
driver crashes, hardware acceleration on the sound card failed
and gave terrible sound etc.

But the main problem was that is made my PC virtually unuseable,
it took upto 10 minutes to boot up and although it is a P4 2.6ghz
with 1gb of RAM it ran like my old Pentium 75mhz, constantly
chugging away with the hard disk & CPU running at full speed and
getting nowhere fast.

The only solution was to uninstal SP2 and reinstall XP, defragging
etc only makes thinks a little bit better.

My PC now runs fine, I would love to know when Microsoft will be
sorting this out and until then SP2 is going nowhere near my PC.

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:34:37 -0400, Phil wrote:

You're talking to the wrong person here about what a novice should and
doesn't know about their tool, the computer. A novice should know this stuff
and if they don't they should find out about it. If you have a computer you
need to learn how to maintain it correctly. This includes installing
operating systems and service packs. If you don't have the time or want to
learn, then step aside and let others who do or want to. A computer is not
an appliance and it's not a toy. It's an expensive tool that should be used
correctly, so others don't suffer from your mistakes. IMO, marketing a
computer like an appliance to the masses is a mistake for the computer
industry at this time, but we all know that money talks......
Before they install sp2, if autoupdates downloaded it already, the user
still has time to prep before they say, go ahead and install. If they have
autoupdates set to download and install without asking you, then they are
relying on someone else to maintain there tool for them. Remember the old
saying....... if you want something done right, then do it yourself.

"californiaheel" wrote in
message
Phil,
The problem I see is that a novice user won't know to get the prep
information before accepting the Windows Update message that SP2 is
ready to install. I, myself, encountered a problem with my MCE PC
after upgrading to SP2. I physically had to replace the DVD +R drive
to get past the PC stopping at the AGP driver (Ran safe mode).

"Phil" wrote:

To each his own I guess. I've done over 50 sp2 installs and the worst
problem was a program had to be reinstalled. Other than that all the
installs have gone fine. Most were good machines, some of which I
built for customers, a few junk hp's and dells, but those worked
fine as well. Sorry your machine can't handle sp2 as I believe it's
worth it to install.

"SteC" wrote in message
news Phil,

I did follow the instructions to prep my PC for the install of SP2
and if you read all the posts on the XP newsgroups there are many
others who experienced similar problems.

Most users who have problems wont even be aware of this type of
forum so I fear the posts on here is the tip of the iceberg.

Before SP2 was launched there was quite a lot in the PC mags
doubting whether or not you shoud do the install and reading the
posts on this forum, I think the answer is not to install.

Harry Ohrm makes some valid points as I have Norton Antivirus &
Firewall (weekly system scans), hardware firewall and at least 3
spyware programs run every week therfore SP2 currently is not worth
the hassle or risk to my PC.

"Phil" wrote:

Since sp2 has been installed on millions and millions of computer
with no probs, the logical conclusion would be that the probs you
encountered were specific to your setup and not the norm for sp2
installs. Did you prepare your system correctly before installing
sp2?(get rid of viruses, spyware, check if programs or hardware
drivers need patches or updating, etc.) If you do these things sp2
usually installs without a problem.
MS is going to sort out your computer as sp2 works fine. I'd
suggest you prepare correctly, do research on what hardware and
software your computer has and if it's sp2 compatable, update and
clean as required, and try sp2 again.
If you have an oem machine, contact the maker as many oem machines
have proprietary junk in them.

"SteC" wrote in message

When I installed SP2 I started having numerous problems, it tried
to reinstall Microsoft applications, I started having hardware
driver crashes, hardware acceleration on the sound card failed
and gave terrible sound etc.

But the main problem was that is made my PC virtually unuseable,
it took upto 10 minutes to boot up and although it is a P4 2.6ghz
with 1gb of RAM it ran like my old Pentium 75mhz, constantly
chugging away with the hard disk & CPU running at full speed and
getting nowhere fast.

The only solution was to uninstal SP2 and reinstall XP, defragging
etc only makes thinks a little bit better.

My PC now runs fine, I would love to know when Microsoft will be
sorting this out and until then SP2 is going nowhere near my PC.

Sounds like, from this post, you had both driver and hardware problems
that were NOT dodocumented. It happens on motherboards that were not
specifically designed for XP (these work fine for initial setup, but may
not function with major upgrades like SP's).
One thing to consider doing is to completely remove all hardware drivers
- and checking for newest known drivers with their websites. After
removing the old drivers, install SP2 and restart, then install the Newest
known drivers (including the motherboard drivers) [I had a similar issue
with Me and Acer 350Mhz mainboard - which I later replaced] Been happy
since!!
--
Lester Stiefel
In Romans 1 there are qualities of Unregenerate man listed which describe
him in the last days.
Is your quality found on this list??