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Old April 27th 06, 03:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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CRaven wrote:
Branded or generic - Makes no difference - The same 2 license
agreements apply - systems builder + eula:

OEM software purchased from a 'computer store' and installed onto a
machine CANNOT then be transfered, Refer to OEM System builder
agreement and EULA.

Just because you may have a version of Windows that Is or appears to
be activated does not make it legal!


Here is your system builder license.
http://oem.microsoft.com/downloads/P...SB_License.pdf

Please show which section it says you cannot upgrade the motherboard.
The only thing it says about new hardware is the following under clause 14:
Activation...

Product activation procedures and Microsofts privacy policy will be detailed
during initial launch of the product, or upon certain reinstallations of the
software product(s) or *reconfigurations* of this computer, and may be
completed by internet or telephone (toll charges may apply.


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Old April 27th 06, 03:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Wow a statement of fact - usefull in prosecution? The Question was wether it
is legal!

By Installing Microsoft OEM software - you are bound to the system builder
license wether you like it or not; you are also resposible for providing your
own support!

Just becasue you can activate it or pass WGA does not mean that you have a
legal or genuine Windows licensed machine (read WGA SITE) - I am not going to
further elaborate on this - there are more than enough pirates and license
evaders about already.

CRaven
Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist

"Alias" wrote:

CRaven wrote:
Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under
centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already
used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license!


False. Read your EULA and get back to us. I am assuming, of course, that
you have a generic OEM. If you have a branded OEM, you can't do it for
technical reasons, not EULA reasons.

Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the first
reply to this post!


I have three computers. All three have generic OEMs on them. I am not a
systems builder so that EULA doesn't apply to me, only the one I agreed
to, of course, and the one I agreed to says *nothing* about a
motherboard! In fact, I just upgraded the motherboard on one of my
computers and it passed WPA and all four WGAs so you were saying???

Alias


"Beck" wrote:

KDagnell wrote:
Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off
my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and
I need a new version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding
this?
If you just add a new motherboard to your pc then you will not need to
transfer anything as windows is on the hard drive.
If you are installing to a new pc you can install your OEM onto the new PC
providing it is not stil being used on the broken PC. However, if your OEM
version is not one you purchased seperately but one you got preinstaled onto
the hard drive with a restore disc then it probably will not work. Most
preinstalled versions and their backups will only run on the PC it was first
installed to.

My Acer computer has an oem which is tied to the computer. On the product
key sticker it says "Windows XP Home Acer Incorporated" - that means its
tied to that machine. My new OEM Home which I bought yesterday has on it
"windows xp home oem software". Check what your label says.




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Old April 27th 06, 03:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Thanks Carrey - Now I remember why I originaly gave up the Idea of becoming
an MVP years ago - too many people state what can be down rather than what is
permitted etc!

Congratulations on your award

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM
Windows XP license, unless you replace the
motherboard with an exact duplicate.
Therefore, the installation of a different
model motherboard will require the purchase
of a new Windows XP license.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User


"KDagnell" wrote:

Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem
disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new
version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this?

  #19  
Old April 27th 06, 03:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM
Windows XP license, unless you replace the
motherboard with an exact duplicate.
Therefore, the installation of a different
model motherboard will require the purchase
of a new Windows XP license.


It does not state that in the EULA.
Here is mine directly from my PC.
http://www.photoscene.co.uk/eula.txt

Nowhere does it say that a motherboard change will result in the user
requiring a new license.


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Old April 27th 06, 03:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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CRaven became hysterical and wrote:
Wow a statement of fact - usefull in prosecution? The Question was wether it
is legal!


It is, at least according the the EULA I agreed to.

By Installing Microsoft OEM software - you are bound to the system builder
license wether you like it or not;


Not true. I am bound by what I agree to, not what's in your imagination.

you are also resposible for providing your
own support!


Big deal.

Just becasue you can activate it or pass WGA does not mean that you have a
legal or genuine Windows licensed machine (read WGA SITE) - I am not going to
further elaborate on this - there are more than enough pirates and license
evaders about already.

CRaven


I bought my generic OEMs at an authorized dealer. In Spain, nobody sells
retail XPs. NOBODY! One store does sell retail upgrade versions at 3.5
times the price of OEM. Needless to say, they don't sell very many
except to fools like you who believe the FUD posted on this and other
newsgroups.

So, hot shot, you were saying?

Alias

Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist

"Alias" wrote:

CRaven wrote:
Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under
centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already
used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license!

False. Read your EULA and get back to us. I am assuming, of course, that
you have a generic OEM. If you have a branded OEM, you can't do it for
technical reasons, not EULA reasons.
Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the first
reply to this post!


I have three computers. All three have generic OEMs on them. I am not a
systems builder so that EULA doesn't apply to me, only the one I agreed
to, of course, and the one I agreed to says *nothing* about a
motherboard! In fact, I just upgraded the motherboard on one of my
computers and it passed WPA and all four WGAs so you were saying???

Alias

"Beck" wrote:

KDagnell wrote:
Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off
my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and
I need a new version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding
this?
If you just add a new motherboard to your pc then you will not need to
transfer anything as windows is on the hard drive.
If you are installing to a new pc you can install your OEM onto the new PC
providing it is not stil being used on the broken PC. However, if your OEM
version is not one you purchased seperately but one you got preinstaled onto
the hard drive with a restore disc then it probably will not work. Most
preinstalled versions and their backups will only run on the PC it was first
installed to.

My Acer computer has an oem which is tied to the computer. On the product
key sticker it says "Windows XP Home Acer Incorporated" - that means its
tied to that machine. My new OEM Home which I bought yesterday has on it
"windows xp home oem software". Check what your label says.



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Old April 27th 06, 03:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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CRaven wrote:
Hi Johnathon;

Just because you may have a version of Windows that Is or appears to be
activated does not make it legal.

Consider the following ficticious scenario based around what you have said.

Jo Upgrades/replaces his motherboard;
He reinstalls Windows XP Home on this (effectively) new PC;


False. A motherboard without a power supply is what? Nothing. A
motherboard does not a computer make.

The EULA for a generic OEM does not mention the word "motherboard" once.
Do you want me to post the EULA for you?

Snip BS big time

Alias
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Old April 27th 06, 03:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM
Windows XP license, unless you replace the
motherboard with an exact duplicate.
Therefore, the installation of a different
model motherboard will require the purchase
of a new Windows XP license.


Only if it's a branded OEM. This does not apply to a generic OEM and you
know it, Carey.

Alias
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Old April 27th 06, 03:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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CRaven wrote:
Thanks Carrey - Now I remember why I originaly gave up the Idea of becoming
an MVP years ago - too many people state what can be down rather than what is
permitted etc!


Try reading the EULA before you put your foot in your mouth.

Congratulations on your award


All Carey's award did is denigrate the MVP system.

Alias

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM
Windows XP license, unless you replace the
motherboard with an exact duplicate.
Therefore, the installation of a different
model motherboard will require the purchase
of a new Windows XP license.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User


"KDagnell" wrote:

Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem
disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new
version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this?

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Old April 27th 06, 03:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Beck wrote:
Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM
Windows XP license, unless you replace the
motherboard with an exact duplicate.
Therefore, the installation of a different
model motherboard will require the purchase
of a new Windows XP license.


It does not state that in the EULA.
Here is mine directly from my PC.
http://www.photoscene.co.uk/eula.txt

Nowhere does it say that a motherboard change will result in the user
requiring a new license.



Makes you think they can't read.

Alias
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Old April 27th 06, 04:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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I suggest that you contact your company attorney if you are part of an
organization. 5 years ago it was $150,000.00 for each piece of illegal SW on
each PC. The SBA has a right to show up at a company's door step and demand
entry to scan your computers. They will bring law enforcement officers with
them. I now this for a fact, we where audited, we put up no resistance and it
was determined that the company was in compliance. (disgruntle employee)

Good Luck,

Ignorance is not an excuse in a court of law.



"Alias" wrote:

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM
Windows XP license, unless you replace the
motherboard with an exact duplicate.
Therefore, the installation of a different
model motherboard will require the purchase
of a new Windows XP license.


Only if it's a branded OEM. This does not apply to a generic OEM and you
know it, Carey.

Alias

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Old April 27th 06, 04:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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SteveL wrote:
I suggest that you contact your company attorney if you are part of an
organization. 5 years ago it was $150,000.00 for each piece of illegal SW on
each PC. The SBA has a right to show up at a company's door step and demand
entry to scan your computers. They will bring law enforcement officers with
them. I now this for a fact, we where audited, we put up no resistance and it
was determined that the company was in compliance. (disgruntle employee)

Good Luck,

Ignorance is not an excuse in a court of law.


Just curious, what are you talking about? I have no illegal software on
any of my computers. I own my own business and my attorney buys his
software from the same place I do.

Also, just curious, to which law in Spain are you referring?

Alias



"Alias" wrote:

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM
Windows XP license, unless you replace the
motherboard with an exact duplicate.
Therefore, the installation of a different
model motherboard will require the purchase
of a new Windows XP license.

Only if it's a branded OEM. This does not apply to a generic OEM and you
know it, Carey.

Alias

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Old April 27th 06, 04:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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CRaven wrote:

Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard
(except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install
an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM
license!



Please quote the license where it mentions the motherboard.


Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the
first reply to this post!



Post the link to it so everybody can see that it password protected! No
End User ever agree to that BS.

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And rattle your walls
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Old April 27th 06, 04:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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kurttrail wrote:
CRaven wrote:

Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard
(except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install
an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM
license!



Please quote the license where it mentions the motherboard.

Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the
first reply to this post!



Post the link to it so everybody can see that it password protected! No
End User ever agree to that BS.


I was wondering when you would wake up ;-)

Alias
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Old April 27th 06, 04:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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CRaven wrote:

Wow a statement of fact - usefull in prosecution? The Question was
wether it is legal!


Quote the License, you told the OP to read, where it mentions that the
motherboard cannot be replaced. You cannot because it is not in ANY
license.

By Installing Microsoft OEM software - you are bound to the system
builder license wether you like it or not; you are also resposible
for providing your own support!


Actually that is a recent change, which the OP may not have agreed to,
but then the SBL says nothing about the motherboard cannot be changed
either. Quote it if you can.

Just becasue you can activate it or pass WGA does not mean that you
have a legal or genuine Windows licensed machine (read WGA SITE) - I
am not going to further elaborate on this - there are more than
enough pirates and license evaders about already.


And more than enough idiots making licensing claims they cannot back up.


CRaven
Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist


LOL! Are you self-anointed too!

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http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."


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Old April 27th 06, 04:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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CRaven wrote:

Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard
(except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install
an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM
license!


QUOTE THE LICENSING AGREEMENT! Neither the EULA or the SBL say anything
about that the motherboard cannot be changed, and to continue to claim
it does is an outright LIE!


Read the excerpt from microsoft OEM system builder website in the
first
reply to this post!


That is not part of ANY license that was agreed to. And give the link
so everybody can see that it is a password protected site.

The only way that a processor or motherboard can be changed (without
warranty issues) is on a Full Packaged Retail Product!


LOL! Now you are including the processor too!


The lisence on OEM operating systems is married to the computer (the
Motherborad , CPU and other essential components) not the user and
that is specifically why reinstalling on a new motherboard is a
breach of the license!


Says you. And we all now know that you are full of sh*t.


CRaven
Micrsosoft Licensing Sales Specialist


LOL! You can't even spell Microsoft right, and you want people to
believe you are some licensing special olympian?



"Johnathan" wrote:

KDagnell wrote:
Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off
my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and
I need a new version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding
this?


There are many posts regarding this and many different answers and
interpretations. The short answer is you should have no difficulties
if done properly. There is nothing improper about repairing a
system. I have done this successfully. You will most likely be
required to reactivate which is what I did by phone. I was told
there is never a problem if you are adding hardware which includes
every piece including the CPU.

Good Luck.




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And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."


 




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