My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
"If the SOFTWARE is not accompanied by HARDWARE,
you may not use the SOFTWARE."

Hardware = Motherboard

Hardware = any piece of hardware which comes under the acceptance of selling
OEM. That could be a processor, memory, hard drive and so on.

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

If the motherboard dies, then in order to use the same
OEM Windows XP license, a new motherboard can
be used as long as the new motherboard is an exact
duplicate model of the original motherboard. If a
different model motherboard is installed, than a
new Windows XP license would be required.


And where in the quote you posted are the words that
say or mention "exact duplicate model of the original
motherboard"? Nor is there any reference to such in the
URL that you had also provided as a refrence, i.e.,

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/YourPC_do.mspx

The Gestalt of a computer system or machine is the whole.
If one part dies "by defect" and this part is replaced,
the system or machine and its function are restored.

And also, when it comes to anatomy and health[care], and
organ transplants, you are also out of your league. Do
you really believe that, for example, a person who had
received a donor kidney is a "new" (and different) person?

Kidneys would be more like replacing memory chips. Try a better analogy.

Ghostrider wrote:


Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

If the motherboard dies, then in order to use the same
OEM Windows XP license, a new motherboard can
be used as long as the new motherboard is an exact
duplicate model of the original motherboard. If a
different model motherboard is installed, than a
new Windows XP license would be required.


And where in the quote you posted are the words that
say or mention "exact duplicate model of the original
motherboard"? Nor is there any reference to such in the
URL that you had also provided as a refrence, i.e.,

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/YourPC_do.mspx

The Gestalt of a computer system or machine is the whole.
If one part dies "by defect" and this part is replaced,
the system or machine and its function are restored.

And also, when it comes to anatomy and health[care], and
organ transplants, you are also out of your league. Do
you really believe that, for example, a person who had
received a donor kidney is a "new" (and different) person?

Bob I wrote:

Kidneys would be more like replacing memory chips. Try a better analogy.



Just for you, Bob, how about a heart-and-lung transplant.
Quality-of-life would be the benchmark. Would the person
still be the same?

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
Direct quote from Microsoft OEM licensing:

Q. If my customer asks me to upgrade his PC with new hardware components, when does a new operating system need to be acquired? When
would the PC be considered to be "new"?

That's directed towards system builders. No systems builders in this
thread. I build my own computers and have no "customers". So, please, if
you're going to respond, do it with regard for others' intelligence.

Thank you.

Alias

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
"If the SOFTWARE is not accompanied by HARDWARE,
you may not use the SOFTWARE."

Hardware = Motherboard


Hardware = screw, case, hard drive, video driver, power supply,
processor, cd rom, memory, power chord, monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc.

No wonder you're confused. You don't understand what hardware is.

Makes one wonder how in the world you were awarded an MVP.

Alias

Since you are all discussing Installing OEM software - and have all given the
impression that you have installed OEM software - you are entitled to
register at oem.microsoft.com

The page that provides you with the information which confirms both My
ansewers and careys is :
http://oem.microsoft.com/script/cont...ID=552846#faq3

Alias - Check what you are talking about befor you make arsumptions
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Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist
Microsoft Small Business Specialist



"KDagnell" wrote:

Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem
disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new
version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this?

Carey - I think we should give up - they are clearly lost casues whom condone
piracy; I am sure that they would also consider it legal to make copies of
dvd's becasue they can buy blank disks!

I have emailed Microsoft Partner Support to ask that they make the faq
available at
http://oem.microsoft.com/script/cont...ID=552846#faq3 available
via the url that you posted earlier in another reply and asked them to
arrange an explanation as to why when you install OEM software you accept the
SB license too.

I have also suggested that they do away with the myth of generic OEM disks v
branded oem disks and advised them of how people like alias are using the so
called descritpors to advise people to breach the licesning of their software.

Regards,

CRaven
Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist
Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist
Microsoft Small Business Specialist



"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM
Windows XP license, unless you replace the
motherboard with an exact duplicate.
Therefore, the installation of a different
model motherboard will require the purchase
of a new Windows XP license.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User


"KDagnell" wrote:

Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem
disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new
version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this?

CRaven wrote:
Since you are all discussing Installing OEM software - and have all given the
impression that you have installed OEM software - you are entitled to
register at oem.microsoft.com

And we're entitled NOT to register there.

The page that provides you with the information which confirms both My
ansewers and careys is :
http://oem.microsoft.com/script/cont...ID=552846#faq3

Alias - Check what you are talking about befor you make arsumptions

I make no assumptions. I go by what I agreed to, my EULA, which doesn't
mention a motherboard once or any need to register at any web site or
read any system builders material.

Alias

CRaven wrote:
Carey - I think we should give up - they are clearly lost casues whom condone
piracy;

False. I am waiting for your apology. I have not once encouraged the use
of pirated software. I have promoted the fact that one can upgrade one's
computer if one has a generic OEM, a legal one.

I am sure that they would also consider it legal to make copies of
dvd's becasue they can buy blank disks!

And how did you make that leap in logic?

I have emailed Microsoft Partner Support to ask that they make the faq
available at
http://oem.microsoft.com/script/cont...ID=552846#faq3 available
via the url that you posted earlier in another reply and asked them to
arrange an explanation as to why when you install OEM software you accept the
SB license too.

You don't. Only system builders need accept that license. I have bought
three without having to read or agree to a system builder's license.

I have also suggested that they do away with the myth of generic OEM disks v
branded oem disks and advised them of how people like alias are using the so
called descritpors to advise people to breach the licesning of their software.


Um, go to this url for an OEM XP:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16837102062

Oops.

Regards,

CRaven
Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist
Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist
Microsoft Small Business Specialist

Are you saying that generic OEMs don't exist and can't be bought by the
general public? LOL! You're hopelessly mired in fantasy.

Again, visit http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16837102062

Here's the system builder's EULA and I dare you to show me where it says
that changing the motherboard constitutes a "new computer":

http://oem.microsoft.com/downloads/P...SB_License.pdf

Are you all bark and no bite, Craven?

Please note that you are quoting US system builders' EULA. I live in
Spain where there is an entirely different one and it doesn't say that
changing the motherboard constitutes a "new computer" either!

Alias



"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM
Windows XP license, unless you replace the
motherboard with an exact duplicate.
Therefore, the installation of a different
model motherboard will require the purchase
of a new Windows XP license.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User


"KDagnell" wrote:

Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem
disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new
version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this?

Alias wrote:
Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

Direct quote from Microsoft OEM licensing:

Q. If my customer asks me to upgrade his PC with new hardware
components, when does a new operating system need to be acquired? When
would the PC be considered to be "new"?


That's directed towards system builders. No systems builders in this
thread. I build my own computers and have no "customers". So, please, if
you're going to respond, do it with regard for others' intelligence.

Thank you.

Alias

In some circles, the home-builder or DIY'fer is considered
to be the system builder. In fact, it makes things easier as
the system builder should be providing a warranty and this
grants power to what the builder interprets to be a warranty
replacement part. If said part is not the original because
the builder can no longer provide it, the builder still must
honor the warranty by substituting the part. MS, at this time,
does not have a solution for this conumdrum nor would ir risk
a court challenge because whatever verdict will always favor
the builder as an user or the user as a builder.

Beck wrote:

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
If the motherboard dies, then in order to use the same
OEM Windows XP license, a new motherboard can
be used as long as the new motherboard is an exact
duplicate model of the original motherboard. If a
different model motherboard is installed, than a
new Windows XP license would be required.

That would depend on his EULA. This EULA change is recent within the
last few months. If the EULA he has at the moment has no mention if
this new motherboard clause then he is not affected as he has not
agreed to it.

Carey has yet to quote any actual license, EULA or SBL. Neither
mentions this mobo BS.

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Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

"If the SOFTWARE is not accompanied by HARDWARE,
you may not use the SOFTWARE."

Hardware = Motherboard


Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
If the motherboard dies, then in order to use the same
OEM Windows XP license, a new motherboard can
be used as long as the new motherboard is an exact
duplicate model of the original motherboard. If a
different model motherboard is installed, than a
new Windows XP license would be required.

That would depend on his EULA. This EULA change is recent within
the last few months. If the EULA he has at the moment has no
mention if this new motherboard clause then he is not affected as he
has not agreed to it.

Now you are an out and out liar, Carey.

"The term "COMPUTER" as used herein shall
mean the HARDWARE, if the HARDWARE is a
single computer system, or shall mean the
computer system with which the HARDWARE
operates, if the HARDWARE is a computer
system component." - OEM EULA

Nowhere in the EULA does it say anything like "Hardware = Motherboard!"

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Six Underground wrote:

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:06:02 -0700, Carey Frisch [MVP]
wrote:

"If the SOFTWARE is not accompanied by HARDWARE,
you may not use the SOFTWARE."

Hardware = Motherboard

Are you kidding with this crap? And they actually gave you the title
of "MVP"? What a pitiful assault on the English alphabet.

Get back to us when you've got your head on straight.

6 U

http://carey.microscum.com/

He can't get his head on straight, as he has it too far up his own ass.

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Bob I wrote:

Kidneys would be more like replacing memory chips. Try a better
analogy.

The point is NEITHER the EULA nor the SBL says anthing that the
motherboard replacement invalidates the license.

QUOTE THEM IF YOU CAN! BUT NOT YOU OR CAREY OR BILL GATES OR GOD CAN!
Why? Because the EULA and the SBL say NOTHING about replacing the
motherboard invalidates the license!

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