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I am trying to link 2 PCs (no domain) via Ethernet cable so I assigned fixed IP address to both of them as follows: Computer 1 IP Address 10.0.0.1 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default gateway: 10.0.0.1 Prffered DNS Server:10.0.0.1 Computer 2 IP Address 10.0.0.2 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default gateway: 10.0.0.2 Prffered DNS Server:10.0.0.2 But I still can't view shared folder in any of them Can that be related to the Workgroup? Any suggestions? Shmuel Shulman |
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u need a crossover cat5 cable
S Shulman wrote: Hi I am trying to link 2 PCs (no domain) via Ethernet cable so I assigned fixed IP address to both of them as follows: Computer 1 IP Address 10.0.0.1 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default gateway: 10.0.0.1 Prffered DNS Server:10.0.0.1 Computer 2 IP Address 10.0.0.2 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default gateway: 10.0.0.2 Prffered DNS Server:10.0.0.2 But I still can't view shared folder in any of them Can that be related to the Workgroup? Any suggestions? Shmuel Shulman |
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"S Shulman" wrote in message
... Hi I am trying to link 2 PCs (no domain) via Ethernet cable so I assigned fixed IP address to both of them as follows: Computer 1 IP Address 10.0.0.1 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default gateway: 10.0.0.1 Prffered DNS Server:10.0.0.1 Computer 2 IP Address 10.0.0.2 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default gateway: 10.0.0.2 Prffered DNS Server:10.0.0.2 But I still can't view shared folder in any of them Can that be related to the Workgroup? Any suggestions? Shmuel Shulman So did you connect the 2 computers to hub, switch, or router? Or did you connect them directly together (i.e., from NIC port of one computer to the NIC port of other), in which case you need a special cable called a cross-over cable? If you connect them using a cross-over cable and using all NIC ports, just how are you connecting them to the Internet, if at all? You obviously are NOT running a DNS server to resolve IP names to IP addresses regardless of your DNS settings. That means you cannot use IP names to find your hosts. You need to find your hosts by their workgroup names. Do you have the "Client for Microsoft Networks" installed on your LAN connectoid? Is the "Computer Browser" NT service running? If you do have them connected to a router, does the router permit connections between intranetwork hosts? -- __________________________________________________ __________ Post your replies to the newsgroup. Share with others. E-mail reply: Remove "NIXTHIS" and add "#VS811" to Subject. __________________________________________________ __________ |
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Google | Straight through cable | Cross over cable
CAT5 is rated to 100M CAT5e is rated to 350M CAT6 and CAT6e is rated to 550M or 1000M depending on your source CAT7 is supposedly rated to 700M or presumably 1000M The following websites to be helpful in explaining the differences and the benefits. http://www.broadbandutopia.com/caandcaco.html http://www.lanshack.com/cat5e-tutorial.asp http://www.theheadwaters.com/cables/faq.htm#1 You will find much more info at: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ ======================================= Regards, Gary 'Doc' Adams in Louisiana @ 314.479.8201 EMOVE http://computerteachers.digital-mall-online.com/ ~ Read to Learn - Write to Think ~ ======================================= "S Shulman" wrote in message ... Hi I am trying to link 2 PCs (no domain) via Ethernet cable so I assigned fixed IP address to both of them as follows: Computer 1 IP Address 10.0.0.1 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default gateway: 10.0.0.1 Prffered DNS Server:10.0.0.1 Computer 2 IP Address 10.0.0.2 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default gateway: 10.0.0.2 Prffered DNS Server:10.0.0.2 But I still can't view shared folder in any of them Can that be related to the Workgroup? Any suggestions? Shmuel Shulman |
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Thanks for you reply,
I connects them using crossed Ethernet cable. I get the internet via the USB port (connected to a cable modem) which is a different LAN I want to note that when I enable the LAN between the 2 computers the internet connection doesn't work I also tried to bridge them but it didn't help I must admit that I didn't understand everything you have written but if there is a specific problem please restate it and will look into it. Thank you in advance, Shmuel Shulman "Vanguard" use_ReplyTo_header wrote in message ... "S Shulman" wrote in message ... Hi I am trying to link 2 PCs (no domain) via Ethernet cable so I assigned fixed IP address to both of them as follows: Computer 1 IP Address 10.0.0.1 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default gateway: 10.0.0.1 Prffered DNS Server:10.0.0.1 Computer 2 IP Address 10.0.0.2 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default gateway: 10.0.0.2 Prffered DNS Server:10.0.0.2 But I still can't view shared folder in any of them Can that be related to the Workgroup? Any suggestions? Shmuel Shulman So did you connect the 2 computers to hub, switch, or router? Or did you connect them directly together (i.e., from NIC port of one computer to the NIC port of other), in which case you need a special cable called a cross-over cable? If you connect them using a cross-over cable and using all NIC ports, just how are you connecting them to the Internet, if at all? You obviously are NOT running a DNS server to resolve IP names to IP addresses regardless of your DNS settings. That means you cannot use IP names to find your hosts. You need to find your hosts by their workgroup names. Do you have the "Client for Microsoft Networks" installed on your LAN connectoid? Is the "Computer Browser" NT service running? If you do have them connected to a router, does the router permit connections between intranetwork hosts? -- __________________________________________________ __________ Post your replies to the newsgroup. Share with others. E-mail reply: Remove "NIXTHIS" and add "#VS811" to Subject. __________________________________________________ __________ |
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"S Shulman" wrote in message
... Thanks for you reply, I connects them using crossed Ethernet cable. I get the internet via the USB port (connected to a cable modem) which is a different LAN I want to note that when I enable the LAN between the 2 computers the internet connection doesn't work I also tried to bridge them but it didn't help I must admit that I didn't understand everything you have written but if there is a specific problem please restate it and will look into it. Thank you in advance, Shmuel Shulman "Vanguard" use_ReplyTo_header wrote in message ... "S Shulman" wrote in message ... Hi I am trying to link 2 PCs (no domain) via Ethernet cable so I assigned fixed IP address to both of them as follows: Computer 1 IP Address 10.0.0.1 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default gateway: 10.0.0.1 Prffered DNS Server:10.0.0.1 Computer 2 IP Address 10.0.0.2 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Default gateway: 10.0.0.2 Prffered DNS Server:10.0.0.2 But I still can't view shared folder in any of them Can that be related to the Workgroup? Any suggestions? Shmuel Shulman So did you connect the 2 computers to hub, switch, or router? Or did you connect them directly together (i.e., from NIC port of one computer to the NIC port of other), in which case you need a special cable called a cross-over cable? If you connect them using a cross-over cable and using all NIC ports, just how are you connecting them to the Internet, if at all? You obviously are NOT running a DNS server to resolve IP names to IP addresses regardless of your DNS settings. That means you cannot use IP names to find your hosts. You need to find your hosts by their workgroup names. Do you have the "Client for Microsoft Networks" installed on your LAN connectoid? Is the "Computer Browser" NT service running? If you do have them connected to a router, does the router permit connections between intranetwork hosts? -- __________________________________________________ __________ Post your replies to the newsgroup. Share with others. E-mail reply: Remove "NIXTHIS" and add "#VS811" to Subject. __________________________________________________ __________ You already mentioned defining a bridge between your network card/controller and your USB ported network device (to the Internet). Defining a bridge does not necessarily give you Internet connectivity. A bridge is just a host with two network interfaces connecting two network segments. Some host running a DHCP server must assign them IP address unless you want to use static IP addresses (which your ISP won't support unless you pay them extra). Presumably one network segment is between your other host (bridged host) and the host running the bridge between the network card and the USB ported network device (bridging host, or bridge), and the other side of the bridge presumably connects to your cable/DSL modem. Okay, but how are you going to get an IP address assigned to the bridged host (the one that is NOT running the bridge driver) from your ISP to let it connect to the Internet? You have a private network that your ISP won't touch. Right now you are using static IP addresses. That is almost guaranteed to block access to your ISP. It's okay for connections between your own intranetwork hosts but your ISP won't know about those hosts because your ISP didn't assign them their IP addresses. You currently have a *private* network. Your ISP's DHCP server could assign your bridging host an IP address (but that's not how you have it configured) but it can't reach the bridged host. You only show one of your network interfaces defined on the bridging host and with a private IP address, too. Presumably that is for the NIC connected to the other host. What about the IP config for the network device attached to your USB bus? What is its IP config? From what I can tell, you have a static and private IP address defined for the NIC on your bridged host and you have a static and private IP address defined for the NIC on your bridging host (which connects back to your bridged host), so that is your private network that your ISP can't reach. You don't mention what is the IP config of your USB ported network device included in the bridge. Even if it were configured to use DHCP to get an IP address from your ISP, only that side of your bridging host would get that IP address. Your bridged host could connect to your bridging host, your bridging host can connect to your bridged host and to the Internet, but your bridging host can't get to the Internet. You need to use address translation to let other hosts share the single IP address that your ISP allocates to your account, unless you want to pay them for their "home networking" solution to allocate you two, or more, dynamically assigned IP addresses. Bridging does not provide for network address translation (NAT) as would a NAT router to which you connect both your hosts or by using ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) on the bridging host. Presumably your hardware setup is: Bridged host: NIC port goes to bridging host, static IP address. Bridging host: NIC post goes to bridged host, static IP address. Bridging host: USB port goes to network device (cable/DSL modem), unknown IP addressing mode. When you run "ipconfig /all" on each of your hosts, what does it report (copy and paste into your reply)? Rather than define a bridge between the NIC port and USB ported device, you need to use ICS to allow bridged hosts to share the IP address allocated by your ISP to the WAN-side of your bridging host. ICS acts as the local DHCP server to assign IP addresses to each of your intranetwork hosts (i.e., the LAN-side of your bridging host and to each of your other hosts). Your ISP allocates the single IP address to the USB ported device on the WAN-side of your bridging host. Then all your hosts get to share the single IP address from your ISP. For now, delete the simple bridge and use the Network Connection Wizard (rundll32.exe hnetwiz.dll HomeNetWizardRunDll) to load ICS and configure your hosts. Do the bridging host first with the 2 network interfaces and then do the bridged hosts. Go through "Start - Help and Support" to get more info on ICS, or use http://www.google.com/search?q=%2B"Windows+XP"+%2BICS+%2Bsetup+%2Binstru ctions to find help articles. After installing ICS on the bridging host, the bridging host has to be up for any bridged hosts to use it to connect to the Internet (i.e., if the ICS host disconnects, they all disconnect). If the bridge is down, no one gets to cross. That is why it is much easier to use a NAT router and connect all your hosts to it. It must be a *NAT* router to provide its own DHCP server which assigns each of your intranetwork hosts their IP addresses and your ISP assigns your single allocated IP address to your router; i.e., the DHCP server in the NAT router handles all the LAN-side hosts while your ISP's DHCP server handles the WAN-side of your NAT router. You only need one network interface per host, like a NIC, so you don't bother with defining bridging, simple or NAT, and you can power off or reboot one host without affecting connectivity for the other hosts. ICS is a cheap (because it is included in Windows) but a nuisancesome solution. A NAT router is easy but costs money (and many come with a rudimentary firewall). I am presuming that your ISP allocates only one IP address to your account. That means you have to share it amongst all the hosts in your private network. You can't do that by assigning private IP addresses within your private network which is only is usable by your own private hosts. Your ISP has to know where to deliver the packets coming back from wherever you connect. It only has one IP address to send to. ICS or a NAT router will permit sharing of that single IP address across all your hosts. Otherwise, pay your ISP to have them allocate more IP addresses to your account (but you'll have to configure each host to use DHCP instead of static addressing). Or pay them even more to have them assign a static IP address to each of your hosts. ICS or a NAT router is far cheaper. -- __________________________________________________ __________ Post your replies to the newsgroup. Share with others. 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"S Shulman" wrote in message
... Thanks for you reply, I connects them using crossed Ethernet cable. I get the internet via the USB port (connected to a cable modem) which is a different LAN I want to note that when I enable the LAN between the 2 computers the internet connection doesn't work I also tried to bridge them but it didn't help I must admit that I didn't understand everything you have written but if there is a specific problem please restate it and will look into it. Getting back to why you can't view a shared folder within your private network, I had mentioned checking that the Computer Browser service is running and if you have the "Client for Microsoft Networks" protocol bound to your LAN connectoid. For the Computer Browser service, run services.msc to load the Services applet to make sure "Computer Browser" is set to Automatic (i.e., loads on Windows startup) and is currently running. To check that you have the "Client for Microsoft Networks" protocol bound to your LAN connectoid, right-click on that connectoid (your "LAN" connection in the Network control panel applet), and check Properties. You probably also need to enable File and Printer sharing. A personal software firewall on your hosts or other security software could be blocking the ports used for file sharing. If those components have been bound (i.e., installed) to your LAN connectoid, try temporarily disabling your software firewall. If that doesn't work, check if you are running other security software that could interfere (many will block file & print sharing rather than simply tell the user how to unbind that component from their connectoid). The software firewall on the bridging host should block file & print sharing for external connections but not within your private network, but since you have multiple network interfaces on that bridging host (one for the NIC and the other for the USB ported device), you need to make sure the software firewall is only blocking file & print services on that external network interface (i.e., the USB ported device). You also need to ensure each computer has a unique MAC (media access control) address assigned to it. Run "ipconfig /all" on both hosts and make sure the MAC (physical) addresses are different. Similary, you need to use a DIFFERENT hostname for each host. If both were named, say, "desktopPC" then how would the hosts know where to deliver their packets? If you use their static IP address then you could connect to them but most users use the hostnames. Make sure each host has a different hostname. That is also shown in the "ipconfig /all" output. |
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