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  #76  
Old August 8th 18, 05:15 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"pyotr filipivich" wrote

| The problem with something like Adobe CS is that
| they know buying makes most sense for their customers.
| It takes months just to learn how to use it, so if you
| want it you probably want to own a copy. But that
| option makes the least money for them. So they don't
| allow an option. You can't decide which is best for
| your needs. You can only rent.
|
| Intuit did that with their Quicken accounting package back in
| 2005. Unless I updated the software, I could not even get my bank
| data loaded. I decided then and there, that as far as Quicken was
| concerned, nothing was better. And for the next six years, I used
| nothing.
|

Yikes. You mean they actually broke the existing
software you had bought? How was that possible?
You can't buy Photoshop today, but as far as
I know, no one has claimed that Adobe hacked in
and broke their existing copy of Photoshop.




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  #77  
Old August 8th 18, 07:45 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Wolf K" wrote

| Sorry, I was merely thinking that for a business, renting software might
| be a better deal, depending on a lot of factors. I still don't know
| whether software would/could count as a capital cost.

Yes. Look it up. What difference does it make,
anyway? Of course, you do have to be able to
convince the IRS that it's a business expense.

| Someone else raised the business
| angle, I saw no reason to limit my generalities.
|

What I'm saying is it makes no difference. I could
conceivably want software for my business. But
whether I rent or buy would still depend on my
own costs and what I need it for. Tax writeoff
will be a minor factor.

I'm guessing you don't do your own taxes. The
idea of "capital expense" just simply doesn't matter
here. 1) It's not depreciable. It is a capital expense.
2) You still pay either way and thus you still write
it off either way. Whether you stretch that out
will make very little difference in your actual taxes.
The difference it does make will be dwarfed by the
difference in costs. In other words, if you buy now
for $500 and use it for 10 years, vs renting for
$20/month, any difference in tax savings will be
dwarfed by the difference in cost. You'll save more
on taxes with rental only because you spent so
much more.

Maybe you're thinking that maybe a big corporation
could benefit from paying $1M month vs $10M in
a lump sum... Maybe it's possible there could
be a case where rental makes sense tax-wise,
in a big way? It's hard to see how. That would
be the exception to the rule. The main point is
that no one has a choice now with Adobe and
some others.

What Microsoft is doing is actually very similar.
They sell cars. Now they say they want to offer
a taxi service. But you won't have a choice. They're
only going to offer the taxi service and given their
monopoly position you'll have little choice but to
go along.


  #78  
Old August 9th 18, 01:12 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Wolf K on Tue, 7 Aug 2018 16:35:21 -0400 typed
in alt.windows7.general the following:

I'm reading how more and more, automakers are all buying major
components from the same range of suppliers. That is, Ford no longer
makes its own trannys, etc. So what is available for the high end
market now is because BMW has a deal for exclusive use for the next
couple years, and then the "innovation" will move down the make and
model, eventually "everybody" will have 8 speed "automated
transmission".

tschus
pyotr


It will likely be a BMW transmission, or else one built under license
from BMW. :-)


As I recall, BMW is licensing the transmissions from XYZ corp.
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  #79  
Old August 9th 18, 01:12 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Mayayana" on Wed, 8 Aug 2018 12:15:34 -0400
typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
"pyotr filipivich" wrote

| The problem with something like Adobe CS is that
| they know buying makes most sense for their customers.
| It takes months just to learn how to use it, so if you
| want it you probably want to own a copy. But that
| option makes the least money for them. So they don't
| allow an option. You can't decide which is best for
| your needs. You can only rent.
|
| Intuit did that with their Quicken accounting package back in
| 2005. Unless I updated the software, I could not even get my bank
| data loaded. I decided then and there, that as far as Quicken was
| concerned, nothing was better. And for the next six years, I used
| nothing.
Yikes. You mean they actually broke the existing
software you had bought? How was that possible?


I forget the details at this point. And it may have been that
while I could download the bank data, I could no longer update the
stock portfolio. I think it was the later, but the idea that I have
to send them money to keep using all the features, I was not a happy
customer.

You can't buy Photoshop today, but as far as
I know, no one has claimed that Adobe hacked in
and broke their existing copy of Photoshop.

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  #80  
Old August 9th 18, 08:37 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , pyotr
filipivich writes:
"Mayayana" on Wed, 8 Aug 2018 12:15:34 -0400
typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
"pyotr filipivich" wrote

[]
| Intuit did that with their Quicken accounting package back in
| 2005. Unless I updated the software, I could not even get my bank
| data loaded. I decided then and there, that as far as Quicken was
| concerned, nothing was better. And for the next six years, I used
| nothing.
Yikes. You mean they actually broke the existing
software you had bought? How was that possible?


I forget the details at this point. And it may have been that
while I could download the bank data, I could no longer update the
stock portfolio. I think it was the later, but the idea that I have
to send them money to keep using all the features, I was not a happy
customer.


Was using it something that involved use of their server, or some such
facility? If it broke something that you had previously been doing, that
only involved your computer (and perhaps the computer of your brokerage
firm, if by "update the stock portfolio" you mean buying and/or selling
shares), then it's a rum do indeed. Though I suppose if the brokerage
firm changed _their_ end so it wouldn't work with the older software,
that's also sad but as inevitable as websites that won't work with old
browsers - though if they did that, I'd have hoped they'd have given you
sufficient notice before cutoff for you to transfer your portfolio to
another firm.

You can't buy Photoshop today, but as far as
I know, no one has claimed that Adobe hacked in
and broke their existing copy of Photoshop.

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  #81  
Old August 9th 18, 01:56 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote

| then it's a rum do indeed.

I like that. It's got a fun, clippity-clop cadence
to it, combined with a gruff bluntness. Unfortunately,
if I try to use it in the US no one will be able to
figure out what I'm saying.
RunDMC? Run do the deed?


  #82  
Old August 9th 18, 05:32 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
pyotr filipivich
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Wolf K on Thu, 9 Aug 2018 10:16:37 -0400 typed
in alt.windows7.general the following:
On 2018-08-08 20:12, pyotr filipivich wrote:
on Wed, 8 Aug 2018 12:15:34 -0400
typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
"pyotr wrote

| The problem with something like Adobe CS is that
| they know buying makes most sense for their customers.
| It takes months just to learn how to use it, so if you
| want it you probably want to own a copy. But that
| option makes the least money for them. So they don't
| allow an option. You can't decide which is best for
| your needs. You can only rent.
|
| Intuit did that with their Quicken accounting package back in
| 2005. Unless I updated the software, I could not even get my bank
| data loaded. I decided then and there, that as far as Quicken was
| concerned, nothing was better. And for the next six years, I used
| nothing.
Yikes. You mean they actually broke the existing
software you had bought? How was that possible?

I forget the details at this point. And it may have been that
while I could download the bank data, I could no longer update the
stock portfolio. I think it was the later, but the idea that I have
to send them money to keep using all the features, I was not a happy
customer.


Quicken offered yearly updates designed to "encourage" you to buy the
new version. Our club treasurer switched to another program.

From the Wikipedia article(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quicken):
"Beginning with Quicken 2018, Quicken is now a subscription service.
Annual memberships can be purchased directly from Quicken.com and
two-year subscriptions can be purchased through several retailers.[11]"

The article doesn't mention that annual updates were incompatible with
earlier versions.


That too. You could update the files, one way.


Have a good day,

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  #83  
Old August 9th 18, 05:32 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
pyotr filipivich
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" on Thu, 9 Aug 2018
08:37:31 +0100 typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
In message , pyotr
filipivich writes:
"Mayayana" on Wed, 8 Aug 2018 12:15:34 -0400
typed in alt.windows7.general the following:
"pyotr filipivich" wrote

[]
| Intuit did that with their Quicken accounting package back in
| 2005. Unless I updated the software, I could not even get my bank
| data loaded. I decided then and there, that as far as Quicken was
| concerned, nothing was better. And for the next six years, I used
| nothing.
Yikes. You mean they actually broke the existing
software you had bought? How was that possible?


I forget the details at this point. And it may have been that
while I could download the bank data, I could no longer update the
stock portfolio. I think it was the later, but the idea that I have
to send them money to keep using all the features, I was not a happy
customer.


Was using it something that involved use of their server, or some such
facility? If it broke something that you had previously been doing, that
only involved your computer (and perhaps the computer of your brokerage
firm, if by "update the stock portfolio" you mean buying and/or selling
shares), then it's a rum do indeed. Though I suppose if the brokerage
firm changed _their_ end so it wouldn't work with the older software,
that's also sad but as inevitable as websites that won't work with old
browsers - though if they did that, I'd have hoped they'd have given you
sufficient notice before cutoff for you to transfer your portfolio to
another firm.


It was over thirteen yeas ago. Since then I've gotten married,
had two careers, three banks and four addresses. I don't recall.
It came to me yesterday: I have no financial records prior to Jan
2012. I have files from before then, but I don't know if I have the
software anymore. While handwritten ledgers might be less
"searchable", the technology for accessing them hasn't changed since
there were invented.
And I'm sure that I'm not alone in having records which can no
longer be read or used. Plot outline: there really was an "ancient
civilization", hundreds of thousands of years ago. But they were a
paperless society which made everything compostable and degradable.
Nothing for the archeologists to find.

tschus
pyotr



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  #84  
Old August 10th 18, 02:55 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Wolf K" wrote

| What gets up my nose is that comparison stories by news media almost
| never report rates, just raw numbers. For example, per Toronto Star
| Edmonton AB this year sofar has had about half the homicides that
| Toronto has had. But Edmonton has about 1/3rd the population, so its
| homicide rate is about 50% higher. Historically, Edmonton's homicide
| rate has been in the top three for years.
|

At least you have comparison stories. On my
local news these days we just get whatever iPhone
video was sent in. A woman harassed by a mentally
retarded man? It's MeToo day. A child attacked
by a raccoon? Then there will be 3 minutes of
looping raccoon video and 3 minutes of interviewing
public health experts about the danger of rabies. Or
it might be fires, fallen trees, car accidents. But there
isn't really any news. Just iPhone drama to fill the
space until the meteorologist shows up to do their
dragged out report, giving dewpoints and temps for
27 local towns.

That's bad. What's even worse is that the iPhone
videos have created an atmosphere of mob justice
and alienation. The other day a couple was out at night
in Boston riding motorcycles. They stopped to take
a break and a man came over, yelling that they were
in his neighborhood. Was he drunk? Had he recently
lost a loved one? Was he just a jerk? Were the couple
notorious for loud motorcycle riding at night? We have
no idea. The story ran on all stations because the
woman in the couple called the police, recorded the
man, then sent the recording to the media. The couple
was black and the man was white. So it might be a
hate crime!!
They actually said that. It wasn't news. It was moral
theater. That woman designed the night's news. But
she couldn't be bothered to deal with the yelling man.
And whether he was at falut or not, his yelling was
paraded in front of the public for judgement.

Tonight we'll probably get footage of a pitbull
ripping off a woman's face, followed by a discussion of
whether people are responsible for their dogs. Or a teen
diving to his death while swimming, followed by a discussion
of the dangers of swimming at unofficial locations, as the
local neighbors add their two cents for the camera. Whatever
it is, it won't be news. It *will* be cellphone video, because
that saves the "news team" from having to actually work.





  #85  
Old August 10th 18, 11:38 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In message , Mayayana
writes:
"Wolf K" wrote

| What gets up my nose is that comparison stories by news media almost
| never report rates, just raw numbers. For example, per Toronto Star
| Edmonton AB this year sofar has had about half the homicides that
| Toronto has had. But Edmonton has about 1/3rd the population, so its
| homicide rate is about 50% higher. Historically, Edmonton's homicide
| rate has been in the top three for years.
|

At least you have comparison stories. On my
local news these days we just get whatever iPhone
video was sent in. A woman harassed by a mentally


And it will all suffer from VVS (vertical video syndrome - see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2picMQC-9E - because they don't have
the knowledge to turn their 'phone through 90 degrees (and the 'phone
makers won't do it for them). And to make it even worse, the
broadcasters will show the VV with blurred side fill, rather than
leaving it black or grey (perhaps containing the text "this video shot
by someone who doesn't know to rotate their 'phone").
[]
That's bad. What's even worse is that the iPhone
videos have created an atmosphere of mob justice
and alienation. The other day a couple was out at night
in Boston riding motorcycles. They stopped to take
a break and a man came over, yelling that they were
in his neighborhood. Was he drunk? Had he recently
lost a loved one? Was he just a jerk? Were the couple
notorious for loud motorcycle riding at night? We have
no idea. The story ran on all stations because the
woman in the couple called the police, recorded the
man, then sent the recording to the media. The couple
was black and the man was white. So it might be a
hate crime!!


You can't win; _he_ could just as well have videoed _them_, put it on
antisocial media, and drawn a flash lynch mob to drive them out of "his"
neighbourhood. Neither is right.

They actually said that. It wasn't news. It was moral
theater. That woman designed the night's news. But
she couldn't be bothered to deal with the yelling man.
And whether he was at falut or not, his yelling was
paraded in front of the public for judgement.

Tonight we'll probably get footage of a pitbull
ripping off a woman's face, followed by a discussion of
whether people are responsible for their dogs. Or a teen
diving to his death while swimming, followed by a discussion
of the dangers of swimming at unofficial locations, as the
local neighbors add their two cents for the camera. Whatever
it is, it won't be news. It *will* be cellphone video, because
that saves the "news team" from having to actually work.


Go on, tell us what you _really_ think ... (-:



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