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Old December 10th 08, 05:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Barry
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Default Vista and Winxp ??

I have two Dell laptops (Inspiron 1720 and 1420) Both came with Vista
Ultimate installed....... I down graded the 1720 to Winxp Pro, installed all
the drivers, and it works like a champ "Luv it".......
My question is: while looking at my used space on the 1720, (Winxp) it is
only 17GB... that's the OS and everything that I installed.
Looking at the 1420 (Vista ultimate) the used space is 34.4GB.. that's the
O/S and an exact mirror of what I installed on the 1720.. Is it a good
assumption that Vista requires almost twice as much space as Winxp.. No
wonder upon startup the 1720 is up and running almost immediately, while the
1420 lumbers along.........Disk cleanup/ Defrag, etc are done frequently..
Thanks for any response
Might as well downgrade the 1420 also!!
Barry
Austex

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Old December 10th 08, 08:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ronaldo
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Default Vista and Winxp ??

The Microsoft kb919183 article should give you an approximate idea of disk
space
required by Windows Vista.

Windows Vista Home Basic
20-gigabyte (GB) hard disk that has 15 GB of free hard disk space

Windows Vista Home Premium, Windows Vista Business, Windows Vista
Enterprise, and Windows Vista Ultimate
40-GB hard disk that has 15 GB of free hard disk space (the 15GB of free
space provides room for temporary file storage during the install or
upgrade.)


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919183

WINDOWS XP
Disk space used by XP 3 GB
You Programs 14 GB
Used disk space 17 GB

WINDOWS VISTA
Disk space used by Vista 20 GB(?)
Your programs 14 GB
Used disk space 34 GB

Something does not add-up... install CCleaner to remove all type of temp
files and all sorts of residue that only consumes disk space.

Lots of good info here.
http://www.google.com.mx/search?hl=e...G=Buscar&meta=


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"Barry" escribió en el mensaje
...
I have two Dell laptops (Inspiron 1720 and 1420) Both came with Vista
Ultimate installed....... I down graded the 1720 to Winxp Pro, installed
all the drivers, and it works like a champ "Luv it".......
My question is: while looking at my used space on the 1720, (Winxp) it is
only 17GB... that's the OS and everything that I installed.
Looking at the 1420 (Vista ultimate) the used space is 34.4GB.. that's the
O/S and an exact mirror of what I installed on the 1720.. Is it a good
assumption that Vista requires almost twice as much space as Winxp.. No
wonder upon startup the 1720 is up and running almost immediately, while
the 1420 lumbers along.........Disk cleanup/ Defrag, etc are done
frequently..
Thanks for any response
Might as well downgrade the 1420 also!!
Barry
Austex





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Old December 11th 08, 12:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Randem
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Default Vista and Winxp ??

Actually moving from Vista to XP is considered an UPGRADE!!!

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http://www.randem.com/vistainstalls.html
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"Barry" wrote in message
...
I have two Dell laptops (Inspiron 1720 and 1420) Both came with Vista
Ultimate installed....... I down graded the 1720 to Winxp Pro, installed
all the drivers, and it works like a champ "Luv it".......
My question is: while looking at my used space on the 1720, (Winxp) it is
only 17GB... that's the OS and everything that I installed.
Looking at the 1420 (Vista ultimate) the used space is 34.4GB.. that's the
O/S and an exact mirror of what I installed on the 1720.. Is it a good
assumption that Vista requires almost twice as much space as Winxp.. No
wonder upon startup the 1720 is up and running almost immediately, while
the 1420 lumbers along.........Disk cleanup/ Defrag, etc are done
frequently..
Thanks for any response
Might as well downgrade the 1420 also!!
Barry
Austex



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Old December 11th 08, 01:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bruce Chambers
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Default Vista and Winxp ??

Randem wrote:
Actually moving from Vista to XP is considered an UPGRADE!!!



Not by anyone that knows operating systems and/or computers.

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Help us help you:
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Old December 11th 08, 02:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Randem
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Default Vista and Winxp ??

Then you are not one of the one who knows anything...

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http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
http://www.rndem.com/installerproblems.html
http://www.randem.com/vistainstalls.html
http://www.financialtrainingservices.org


"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
...
Randem wrote:
Actually moving from Vista to XP is considered an UPGRADE!!!



Not by anyone that knows operating systems and/or computers.

--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot



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Old December 11th 08, 02:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bruce Chambers
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Default Vista and Winxp ??

Randem wrote:
Then you are not one of the one who knows anything...



I'm not the one who can't manage to handle Vista.

--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
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Old December 11th 08, 02:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Randem
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Default Vista and Winxp ??

And you refer to someone as if you know anything about said person while not
knowing anything... True ignorance...

--
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http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
http://www.rndem.com/installerproblems.html
http://www.randem.com/vistainstalls.html
http://www.financialtrainingservices.org


"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
...
Randem wrote:
Then you are not one of the one who knows anything...



I'm not the one who can't manage to handle Vista.

--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot



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Old December 11th 08, 02:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul Smith
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Default Vista and Winxp ??

"Barry" wrote in message
...
I have two Dell laptops (Inspiron 1720 and 1420) Both came with Vista
Ultimate installed....... I down graded the 1720 to Winxp Pro, installed
all the drivers, and it works like a champ "Luv it".......
My question is: while looking at my used space on the 1720, (Winxp) it is
only 17GB... that's the OS and everything that I installed.
Looking at the 1420 (Vista ultimate) the used space is 34.4GB.. that's the
O/S and an exact mirror of what I installed on the 1720.. Is it a good
assumption that Vista requires almost twice as much space as Winxp.. No
wonder upon startup the 1720 is up and running almost immediately, while
the 1420 lumbers along.........Disk cleanup/ Defrag, etc are done
frequently..
Thanks for any response


Windows Vista does more, 15% of the disk goes to volume snapshots, Windows
itself takes up around 15GB. That's why if you plug something chances are
its got the drivers there already and you don't need to go around looking
for disks or downloads. I will point out using Explorer to measure the size
of the Windows directory will overstate some of it due to how some files are
stored (Explorer will count them twice).

Might as well downgrade the 1420 also!!


Why stop there? Windows 98 only uses about 200MB. XP's recommended RAM
(128MB) is over 5 times that of Windows 98 (24MB), XP is so bloated...

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Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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Old December 11th 08, 11:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Vista and Winxp ??



"Paul Smith" wrote in message
...
"Barry" wrote in message
...
I have two Dell laptops (Inspiron 1720 and 1420) Both came with Vista
Ultimate installed....... I down graded the 1720 to Winxp Pro, installed
all the drivers, and it works like a champ "Luv it".......
My question is: while looking at my used space on the 1720, (Winxp) it is
only 17GB... that's the OS and everything that I installed.
Looking at the 1420 (Vista ultimate) the used space is 34.4GB.. that's
the O/S and an exact mirror of what I installed on the 1720.. Is it a
good assumption that Vista requires almost twice as much space as Winxp..
No wonder upon startup the 1720 is up and running almost immediately,
while the 1420 lumbers along.........Disk cleanup/ Defrag, etc are done
frequently..
Thanks for any response


Windows Vista does more, 15% of the disk goes to volume snapshots, Windows
itself takes up around 15GB. That's why if you plug something chances are
its got the drivers there already and you don't need to go around looking
for disks or downloads. I will point out using Explorer to measure the
size of the Windows directory will overstate some of it due to how some
files are stored (Explorer will count them twice).

Might as well downgrade the 1420 also!!


Why stop there? Windows 98 only uses about 200MB. XP's recommended RAM
(128MB) is over 5 times that of Windows 98 (24MB), XP is so bloated...


Hell, Gonna downgrade/upgrade the 1420 today.......... I think I may have a
copy of win 3.1..
Don't need all that fancy crap that vista provides.. Thanks for your advise.
ugh!!

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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Old December 11th 08, 06:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ronaldo
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Default Vista and Winxp ??

Try "nLite" for XP or "vLite" for Vista... the applications are easy to use
to make a striped-down bootable CD/DVD of Windows XP w/SP3 or Vista w/SP1.
The applications can remove many unnecessary files and programs from the
original CD/DVD to make a lighter and faster OS, keeping original
functionality, faster boot times and quicker operation.


http://www.nliteos.com/
http://www.nliteos.com/download.html


http://www.vlite.net/
http://lifehacker.com/350058/strip-d...ion-with-vlite


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"Barry" escribió en el mensaje
...


"Paul Smith" wrote in message
...
"Barry" wrote in message
...
I have two Dell laptops (Inspiron 1720 and 1420) Both came with Vista
Ultimate installed....... I down graded the 1720 to Winxp Pro, installed
all the drivers, and it works like a champ "Luv it".......
My question is: while looking at my used space on the 1720, (Winxp) it
is only 17GB... that's the OS and everything that I installed.
Looking at the 1420 (Vista ultimate) the used space is 34.4GB.. that's
the O/S and an exact mirror of what I installed on the 1720.. Is it a
good assumption that Vista requires almost twice as much space as
Winxp.. No wonder upon startup the 1720 is up and running almost
immediately, while the 1420 lumbers along.........Disk cleanup/ Defrag,
etc are done frequently..
Thanks for any response


Windows Vista does more, 15% of the disk goes to volume snapshots,
Windows itself takes up around 15GB. That's why if you plug something
chances are its got the drivers there already and you don't need to go
around looking for disks or downloads. I will point out using Explorer
to measure the size of the Windows directory will overstate some of it
due to how some files are stored (Explorer will count them twice).

Might as well downgrade the 1420 also!!


Why stop there? Windows 98 only uses about 200MB. XP's recommended RAM
(128MB) is over 5 times that of Windows 98 (24MB), XP is so bloated...


Hell, Gonna downgrade/upgrade the 1420 today.......... I think I may have
a copy of win 3.1..
Don't need all that fancy crap that vista provides.. Thanks for your
advise. ugh!!

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/

*Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*





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Old December 11th 08, 06:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ronaldo
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Default Vista and Winxp ??

See if this applies to your Vista

Finished Installing Windows Vista SP1 ? Now Remove All The Junk Files
http://www.labnol.org/software/tutor...nk-files/2641/


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"Ronaldo" escribió en el mensaje
...
Try "nLite" for XP or "vLite" for Vista... the applications are easy to
use to make a striped-down bootable CD/DVD of Windows XP w/SP3 or Vista
w/SP1. The applications can remove many unnecessary files and programs
from the original CD/DVD to make a lighter and faster OS, keeping original
functionality, faster boot times and quicker operation.


http://www.nliteos.com/
http://www.nliteos.com/download.html


http://www.vlite.net/
http://lifehacker.com/350058/strip-d...ion-with-vlite


-------------------------------------------
"Barry" escribió en el mensaje
...


"Paul Smith" wrote in message
...
"Barry" wrote in message
...
I have two Dell laptops (Inspiron 1720 and 1420) Both came with Vista
Ultimate installed....... I down graded the 1720 to Winxp Pro, installed
all the drivers, and it works like a champ "Luv it".......
My question is: while looking at my used space on the 1720, (Winxp) it
is only 17GB... that's the OS and everything that I installed.
Looking at the 1420 (Vista ultimate) the used space is 34.4GB.. that's
the O/S and an exact mirror of what I installed on the 1720.. Is it a
good assumption that Vista requires almost twice as much space as
Winxp.. No wonder upon startup the 1720 is up and running almost
immediately, while the 1420 lumbers along.........Disk cleanup/ Defrag,
etc are done frequently..
Thanks for any response

Windows Vista does more, 15% of the disk goes to volume snapshots,
Windows itself takes up around 15GB. That's why if you plug something
chances are its got the drivers there already and you don't need to go
around looking for disks or downloads. I will point out using Explorer
to measure the size of the Windows directory will overstate some of it
due to how some files are stored (Explorer will count them twice).

Might as well downgrade the 1420 also!!

Why stop there? Windows 98 only uses about 200MB. XP's recommended RAM
(128MB) is over 5 times that of Windows 98 (24MB), XP is so bloated...


Hell, Gonna downgrade/upgrade the 1420 today.......... I think I may have
a copy of win 3.1..
Don't need all that fancy crap that vista provides.. Thanks for your
advise. ugh!!

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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