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Missing Startup progs after WU
nospam wrote:
In article , Eric Stevens wrote: !803 is all it knows about. There is no evidence of problems with updates. It hasn't been used much for several weeks and when I started it up to read its history it gave me a list of three updates for 1803 which it is right now downloading and going to install. There was no mention of 1809. I'll wait to see what the future holds. You might be surprised to find it downloading 1809, after the other update install. In fact after downloading and installing three updates it is now fully uptodate at 1803 version 17134.648. microsoft doesn't consider your hardware to be fully compatible with 1809. at this point, you might as well wait for 19h1. It's true that a Windows Update orchestrated Upgrade Install, has in the past tried to "stage" drivers in advance. The directory it used to use to assemble the components, had a folder with anonymized names, containing drivers. You can't just search for "NVidia" and spot your video driver being set up for you. I only stumbled on that folder by accident. If you look inside there, you might see an INF or two. But on the other hand, the Windows Insider Upgrade Installs have no problem re-using the currently installed video driver. And I'm not 100% convinced that hardware can stop it dead like that. Windows 10 would not have installed at all in the first place, if there was an egregious shortcoming in the hardware. It seems tablets (32GB storage, almost full), they never seem to get their Upgrade early in the cycle. And those always get theirs at the last minute. I have to assume there is some sort of classification scheme going on here, which delays the arrival for certain machine types. But we are in the "month of cleanup", and the machine I thought would never get around to doing it, started doing it without me clicking the "Check For Updates". It can happen. It's arbitrary. It's capricious. Humans had a hand in it. It doesn't have to be a simple "stimulus" ("old hardware"), "response" thing. Maybe there are one or two random number generators (to smooth the load on the servers or similar foolishness). There was a log at one time, which contained a "state variable", and that was about as close to a hint as we were ever likely to get. I've not heard of such a log like that, recently. That was part of the "Free Upgrade" aggressive program of a few years back. Paul |
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Missing Startup progs after WU
On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 17:46:07 -0500, nospam
wrote: In article , Eric Stevens wrote: !803 is all it knows about. There is no evidence of problems with updates. It hasn't been used much for several weeks and when I started it up to read its history it gave me a list of three updates for 1803 which it is right now downloading and going to install. There was no mention of 1809. I'll wait to see what the future holds. You might be surprised to find it downloading 1809, after the other update install. In fact after downloading and installing three updates it is now fully uptodate at 1803 version 17134.648. microsoft doesn't consider your hardware to be fully compatible with 1809. That was my guess. After all it is a 9 year old machine. at this point, you might as well wait for 19h1. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Missing Startup progs after WU
Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 17:46:07 -0500, nospam wrote: In article , Eric Stevens wrote: !803 is all it knows about. There is no evidence of problems with updates. It hasn't been used much for several weeks and when I started it up to read its history it gave me a list of three updates for 1803 which it is right now downloading and going to install. There was no mention of 1809. I'll wait to see what the future holds. You might be surprised to find it downloading 1809, after the other update install. In fact after downloading and installing three updates it is now fully uptodate at 1803 version 17134.648. microsoft doesn't consider your hardware to be fully compatible with 1809. That was my guess. After all it is a 9 year old machine. at this point, you might as well wait for 19h1. What kind of graphics does the machine have ? On my AMD HD6450, I was able to get a Crimson beta driver, when the original CCC wasn't good enough. At the time, I had to search under a rock to find it. There must be some fallback behavior for the WDDM version Microsoft is using, because cards that are out of support (after original Win10 launched) still seem to be workable. You can do a backup, download 1809 media and try the Upgrade that way. The ISO can be mounted in Win10 (right-click) and running Setup.exe should kick it off. If there is a drop-dead reason for not continuing with the setup, the advisor in there should tell you. Paul |
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Missing Startup progs after WU
On Sun, 17 Mar 2019 00:45:31 -0400, Paul
wrote: Eric Stevens wrote: On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 17:46:07 -0500, nospam wrote: In article , Eric Stevens wrote: !803 is all it knows about. There is no evidence of problems with updates. It hasn't been used much for several weeks and when I started it up to read its history it gave me a list of three updates for 1803 which it is right now downloading and going to install. There was no mention of 1809. I'll wait to see what the future holds. You might be surprised to find it downloading 1809, after the other update install. In fact after downloading and installing three updates it is now fully uptodate at 1803 version 17134.648. microsoft doesn't consider your hardware to be fully compatible with 1809. That was my guess. After all it is a 9 year old machine. at this point, you might as well wait for 19h1. What kind of graphics does the machine have ? AMD HD 5670 On my AMD HD6450, I was able to get a Crimson beta driver, when the original CCC wasn't good enough. At the time, I had to search under a rock to find it. There must be some fallback behavior for the WDDM version Microsoft is using, because cards that are out of support (after original Win10 launched) still seem to be workable. You can do a backup, download 1809 media and try the Upgrade that way. The ISO can be mounted in Win10 (right-click) and running Setup.exe should kick it off. If there is a drop-dead reason for not continuing with the setup, the advisor in there should tell you. Its an old machine and it may not be worth the effort. Probably someone will want it to enable them to run Linux for another 9 years. :-) -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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