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"Bill in Co." wrote in message
... The converter boxes will allow analog sets to continue to work with over-the-air tv. No satellite or cable is required. I don't know about what you call these in America, but we do not call them converter boxes. They are digital terrestrial receivers, as these analogue TVs just lack digital tuners. Ahh, but see that would be too technical, for most of the Hollywood consumer set here. :-) I like that term digital terrestrial receivers MUCH better - at least it explains a bit better what it is (i.e., with the tuner for the new digital channels). Well, to be honest, here in the UK they are more commonly known as Freeview boxes, due to the service that they can provide. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freevie...ted_Kingdom%29 http://www.freeview.co.uk/home We've moved from PAL to DVB-T digital for a number of years now, but HD is only just becoming popular. In the USA you seem to have gone straight from NTSC to HD ATSC. ss. |
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"Terry R." wrote in message
... Those living in the boonies will suffer the most probably. Since analog gives varying degrees of quality, from lousy to good, digital will either work or it won't. You won't "kind" of get a signal. If it's not strong enough, you're out of luck. People living in built-up areas will not get 'ghosting' with digital. This comes from the analogue signals bouncing off buildings and being received slightly later than the main signal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghosting_%28television%29 You won't get 'snow' either. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_%28video%29 But yes, if you had either of these problems with analogue, or a weak signal to start off with, you are unlikely to get a watchable digital picture at all. Fitting a high-gain antenna should fix it though. ss. |
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Clean up (old) inventory.
"jim" wrote in message t... Of course you are right, but why wouldn't Best Buy tell their customers this? "Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message ... The converter boxes will allow analog sets to continue to work with over-the-air tv. No satellite or cable is required. "Mark H" wrote in message ... Your TV will not work if you do not receive Satellite or Cable and it is not digital ready. If you currently receive Satellite or Cable, it will work just fine and the TVs are a lot cheaper. "jim" wrote in message .. . As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right out of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets the tone for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that Microsoft's $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course). Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations are set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how Best Buy treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad. As reported on CNET (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy has been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready for the February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals) televisions without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that the sets will not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an additional digital converter. That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work for less than a year without the new digital signal converters. Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing on people's PCs. jim |
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it is buyer beware because
there are no markets, corporations, industry that are above such scrutiny and concern. therefore if you have a complaint then you might try contacting the government. however, it is also a "voter beware" system. -- db·´¯`·...¸)))º "jim" wrote in message .. . As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right out of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets the tone for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that Microsoft's $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course). Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations are set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how Best Buy treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad. As reported on CNET (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy has been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready for the February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals) televisions without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that the sets will not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an additional digital converter. That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work for less than a year without the new digital signal converters. Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing on people's PCs. jim |
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65% of my clients come from Geek Squad
for example: One of my clients brought in his pc because it was running very slow He was running xp sp2, 30 gig hd, 256 mb ram and was running, turbo tax, quicken, office type programs and on top of this was running mega big games They told him the computer needed a clean up So he paid $79.99 to clean it up and $50 to put Norton AV on it He took it home and found it was running slower than it was before and programs were crashing all over. He brought it back and they told him it was his cd burner causing this problem. funny how now they feel it is his cd burner causing the problem- So another $75 later, they installed a new cd burner Well seems that did not work either He found me by another client that I have that happens to be his friend. The first thing I looked at was the memory (which Geek Squad should have looked at first) How do you run all these mega programs and expect the computer to go faster on 256mbs of ram? I put in a gig for him and guess what? no more crashing and no more slow downs. I also removed Norton because i feel it hogs everything and put on AVG free which also made a mega difference. I can give you other horror stories. These guys are only out for the money and it seems they do not hire qualified techs. Anyone with a brain would have been able to figure out it was his memory to begin with. Wonder why they never tried that first,,, robin "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... "jim" wrote in message .. . As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right out of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets the tone for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that Microsoft's $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course). Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations are set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how Best Buy treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad. As reported on CNET (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy has been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready for the February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals) televisions without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that the sets will not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an additional digital converter. That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work for less than a year without the new digital signal converters. Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing on people's PCs. jim Digital cable and satellite boxes will convert to analogue, so the TVs will still work, but you are right in that Best Buy and other major computer stores have little integrity, and service to the customer runs second to making money.. -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx |
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to tell the truth - and don't shoot me I'm only the messenger .
This is corporate America hard at work. This is the mentality "Americans - generally" have come to expect regardless of it's lack of integrity. There are no $s in integrity. And no, I don't operate this way either nor do I or would I condone it. I am just a poor tech trying to eeek out a living - the honest way. I find the trouble and I fix it. If I don't fix it - you don't pay. Simple. "robinb" wrote in message ... 65% of my clients come from Geek Squad for example: One of my clients brought in his pc because it was running very slow He was running xp sp2, 30 gig hd, 256 mb ram and was running, turbo tax, quicken, office type programs and on top of this was running mega big games They told him the computer needed a clean up So he paid $79.99 to clean it up and $50 to put Norton AV on it He took it home and found it was running slower than it was before and programs were crashing all over. He brought it back and they told him it was his cd burner causing this problem. funny how now they feel it is his cd burner causing the problem- So another $75 later, they installed a new cd burner Well seems that did not work either He found me by another client that I have that happens to be his friend. The first thing I looked at was the memory (which Geek Squad should have looked at first) How do you run all these mega programs and expect the computer to go faster on 256mbs of ram? I put in a gig for him and guess what? no more crashing and no more slow downs. I also removed Norton because i feel it hogs everything and put on AVG free which also made a mega difference. I can give you other horror stories. These guys are only out for the money and it seems they do not hire qualified techs. Anyone with a brain would have been able to figure out it was his memory to begin with. Wonder why they never tried that first,,, robin "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... "jim" wrote in message .. . As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right out of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets the tone for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that Microsoft's $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course). Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations are set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how Best Buy treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad. As reported on CNET (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy has been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready for the February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals) televisions without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that the sets will not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an additional digital converter. That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work for less than a year without the new digital signal converters. Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing on people's PCs. jim Digital cable and satellite boxes will convert to analogue, so the TVs will still work, but you are right in that Best Buy and other major computer stores have little integrity, and service to the customer runs second to making money.. -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx |
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Robin, where are U located?
Cheers-Herb. "robinb" wrote in message ... 65% of my clients come from Geek Squad for example: One of my clients brought in his pc because it was running very slow He was running xp sp2, 30 gig hd, 256 mb ram and was running, turbo tax, quicken, office type programs and on top of this was running mega big games They told him the computer needed a clean up So he paid $79.99 to clean it up and $50 to put Norton AV on it He took it home and found it was running slower than it was before and programs were crashing all over. He brought it back and they told him it was his cd burner causing this problem. funny how now they feel it is his cd burner causing the problem- So another $75 later, they installed a new cd burner Well seems that did not work either He found me by another client that I have that happens to be his friend. The first thing I looked at was the memory (which Geek Squad should have looked at first) How do you run all these mega programs and expect the computer to go faster on 256mbs of ram? I put in a gig for him and guess what? no more crashing and no more slow downs. I also removed Norton because i feel it hogs everything and put on AVG free which also made a mega difference. I can give you other horror stories. These guys are only out for the money and it seems they do not hire qualified techs. Anyone with a brain would have been able to figure out it was his memory to begin with. Wonder why they never tried that first,,, robin |
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"robinb" wrote in message ... 65% of my clients come from Geek Squad for example: One of my clients brought in his pc because it was running very slow He was running xp sp2, 30 gig hd, 256 mb ram and was running, turbo tax, quicken, office type programs and on top of this was running mega big games They told him the computer needed a clean up So he paid $79.99 to clean it up and $50 to put Norton AV on it He took it home and found it was running slower than it was before and programs were crashing all over. He brought it back and they told him it was his cd burner causing this problem. funny how now they feel it is his cd burner causing the problem- So another $75 later, they installed a new cd burner Well seems that did not work either He found me by another client that I have that happens to be his friend. The first thing I looked at was the memory (which Geek Squad should have looked at first) How do you run all these mega programs and expect the computer to go faster on 256mbs of ram? I put in a gig for him and guess what? no more crashing and no more slow downs. I also removed Norton because i feel it hogs everything and put on AVG free which also made a mega difference. I can give you other horror stories. These guys are only out for the money and it seems they do not hire qualified techs. Anyone with a brain would have been able to figure out it was his memory to begin with. Wonder why they never tried that first,,, I was given a P4 in non-working condition. It came from a friend of a friend who had Geek Squad check it out. There was a bill attached for about $75. It said something to the effect that they could not check the machine because the CPU fan was defective. Amazing!!!! I checked it and found that it was simply the header on the mobo... I just wired the fan to a power supply termination and the machine worked fine. |
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I am only a lonely programmer. Trained myself using Microsoft Products such
as BASIC. "Patrick" wrote in message ... to tell the truth - and don't shoot me I'm only the messenger . This is corporate America hard at work. This is the mentality "Americans - generally" have come to expect regardless of it's lack of integrity. There are no $s in integrity. And no, I don't operate this way either nor do I or would I condone it. I am just a poor tech trying to eeek out a living - the honest way. I find the trouble and I fix it. If I don't fix it - you don't pay. Simple. "robinb" wrote in message ... 65% of my clients come from Geek Squad for example: One of my clients brought in his pc because it was running very slow He was running xp sp2, 30 gig hd, 256 mb ram and was running, turbo tax, quicken, office type programs and on top of this was running mega big games They told him the computer needed a clean up So he paid $79.99 to clean it up and $50 to put Norton AV on it He took it home and found it was running slower than it was before and programs were crashing all over. He brought it back and they told him it was his cd burner causing this problem. funny how now they feel it is his cd burner causing the problem- So another $75 later, they installed a new cd burner Well seems that did not work either He found me by another client that I have that happens to be his friend. The first thing I looked at was the memory (which Geek Squad should have looked at first) How do you run all these mega programs and expect the computer to go faster on 256mbs of ram? I put in a gig for him and guess what? no more crashing and no more slow downs. I also removed Norton because i feel it hogs everything and put on AVG free which also made a mega difference. I can give you other horror stories. These guys are only out for the money and it seems they do not hire qualified techs. Anyone with a brain would have been able to figure out it was his memory to begin with. Wonder why they never tried that first,,, robin "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... "jim" wrote in message .. . As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right out of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets the tone for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that Microsoft's $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course). Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations are set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how Best Buy treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad. As reported on CNET (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy has been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready for the February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals) televisions without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that the sets will not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an additional digital converter. That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work for less than a year without the new digital signal converters. Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing on people's PCs. jim Digital cable and satellite boxes will convert to analogue, so the TVs will still work, but you are right in that Best Buy and other major computer stores have little integrity, and service to the customer runs second to making money.. -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx |
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I refer to them as the Creep Squad as they give Geeks a bad name.
"robinb" wrote in message ... 65% of my clients come from Geek Squad for example: One of my clients brought in his pc because it was running very slow He was running xp sp2, 30 gig hd, 256 mb ram and was running, turbo tax, quicken, office type programs and on top of this was running mega big games They told him the computer needed a clean up So he paid $79.99 to clean it up and $50 to put Norton AV on it He took it home and found it was running slower than it was before and programs were crashing all over. He brought it back and they told him it was his cd burner causing this problem. funny how now they feel it is his cd burner causing the problem- So another $75 later, they installed a new cd burner Well seems that did not work either He found me by another client that I have that happens to be his friend. The first thing I looked at was the memory (which Geek Squad should have looked at first) How do you run all these mega programs and expect the computer to go faster on 256mbs of ram? I put in a gig for him and guess what? no more crashing and no more slow downs. I also removed Norton because i feel it hogs everything and put on AVG free which also made a mega difference. I can give you other horror stories. These guys are only out for the money and it seems they do not hire qualified techs. Anyone with a brain would have been able to figure out it was his memory to begin with. Wonder why they never tried that first,,, robin "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... "jim" wrote in message .. . As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right out of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets the tone for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that Microsoft's $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course). Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations are set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how Best Buy treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad. As reported on CNET (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy has been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready for the February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals) televisions without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that the sets will not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an additional digital converter. That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work for less than a year without the new digital signal converters. Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing on people's PCs. jim Digital cable and satellite boxes will convert to analogue, so the TVs will still work, but you are right in that Best Buy and other major computer stores have little integrity, and service to the customer runs second to making money.. -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx |
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"philo" wrote:
I checked it and found that it was simply the header on the mobo... I just wired the fan to a power supply termination and the machine worked fine. Their corporate attorneys may have advised a policy that limits liability exposure by not doing any "wiring". "Wiring" could be classed as "engineering", and that would open them up to all kinds of lawsuits in the event of fire or electrocution. *TimDaniels* |
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Not so. Many circuit boards are repaired by wiring. Example: a printed
circuit board land pattern is repaired via point to point wiring. "Timothy Daniels" wrote in message ... "philo" wrote: I checked it and found that it was simply the header on the mobo... I just wired the fan to a power supply termination and the machine worked fine. Their corporate attorneys may have advised a policy that limits liability exposure by not doing any "wiring". "Wiring" could be classed as "engineering", and that would open them up to all kinds of lawsuits in the event of fire or electrocution. *TimDaniels* |
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"Timothy Daniels" wrote in message ... "philo" wrote: I checked it and found that it was simply the header on the mobo... I just wired the fan to a power supply termination and the machine worked fine. Their corporate attorneys may have advised a policy that limits liability exposure by not doing any "wiring". "Wiring" could be classed as "engineering", and that would open them up to all kinds of lawsuits in the event of fire or electrocution. *TimDaniels* The "wiring" I did consisted of putting a different plug on the fan. But their analysis simply said "bad fan". They never even tested the machine. |
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"robinb" wrote in message ... 65% of my clients come from Geek Squad for example: One of my clients brought in his pc because it was running very slow He was running xp sp2, 30 gig hd, 256 mb ram and was running, turbo tax, quicken, office type programs and on top of this was running mega big games They told him the computer needed a clean up So he paid $79.99 to clean it up and $50 to put Norton AV on it He took it home and found it was running slower than it was before and programs were crashing all over. He brought it back and they told him it was his cd burner causing this problem. funny how now they feel it is his cd burner causing the problem- So another $75 later, they installed a new cd burner Well seems that did not work either He found me by another client that I have that happens to be his friend. The first thing I looked at was the memory (which Geek Squad should have looked at first) How do you run all these mega programs and expect the computer to go faster on 256mbs of ram? I put in a gig for him and guess what? no more crashing and no more slow downs. I also removed Norton because i feel it hogs everything and put on AVG free which also made a mega difference. I can give you other horror stories. These guys are only out for the money and it seems they do not hire qualified techs. Anyone with a brain would have been able to figure out it was his memory to begin with. Wonder why they never tried that first,,, robin This makes the 'tech guys' at PC World in the UK look intelligent! |
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