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You have jumped to a conclusion. Note, I stated the OP has every right to
consider advice to be non-relevent. Yes I do have Windows Firewall. And I stated my status of security software. I would much prefer to educate people on how to keep their computers secure than have them download (which is the most frequent way to get a virus or malware) trash programs. I might also add: Just read all the problems caused by 'security programs' in these news groups. STOP AND THINK When was the last time you got a virus? How did you get it? "Daave" wrote in message ... "Unknown" wrote in message ... I read all the posts in this thread and others. What's more, I have no security software installed whatsoever and prefer not to. I have never had a virus. I would completely disregard advice to install security software. Perhaps you are above average, Unknown, but the average user would be unwise to run a PC without any protection. As I'm sure you are aware, an awful lot of posters here have malware issues. Then again, had they been more sophisticated, their chances of downloading and installing the malware would have decreased significantly. That means not opening malicious e-mail attachments or visiting dicey sites and clicking on advertisements for rogue programs. But the average user is not that sophisticated! Besides, I'm sure you *are* running some security software; Windows Firewall would fit into this category. |
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"Unknown" wrote in message
... You have jumped to a conclusion. The only conclusion I jumped to is that you are above average when it comes to avoiding malware. Note, I stated the OP has every right to consider advice to be non-relevent. Note that I agree. Unfortunately, a lot of bad advice is offered, therefore it is important that the OP and others in similar situations exercise critical thinking. Yes I do have Windows Firewall. In that case, you *do* have security software installed, which contradicts your earlier statement. Perhaps you meant third-party security software. But I'm not a mind reader! And I stated my status of security software. I would much prefer to educate people on how to keep their computers secure than have them download (which is the most frequent way to get a virus or malware) trash programs. The programs recommended by MVPs and others are not trash programs. However, I will agree that there are many trash programs out there and they need to be avoided at all costs. But running a high-quality antivirus or antimalware program is not the same thing as running a trash program. Furthermore, one does not need to pay a penny for many of these, as long as they are not being used for commercial reasons. This does not have to be a "one or the other" situation. Being educated *and* running high-quality security programs is the most sensible thing to do for most PC users. I might also add: Just read all the problems caused by 'security programs' in these news groups. Those programs you are referring to are trash programs. That's not what I am talking about. In fact, a lot of those problems would have been prevented if the users had been running a simple program like SpywareBlaster, which basically just modifies certain settings in IE or Firefox. STOP AND THINK When was the last time you got a virus? How did you get it? I have never gotten a virus. That doesn't mean I would advocate that other users run with mimimal or no security. "Daave" wrote in message ... "Unknown" wrote in message ... I read all the posts in this thread and others. What's more, I have no security software installed whatsoever and prefer not to. I have never had a virus. I would completely disregard advice to install security software. Perhaps you are above average, Unknown, but the average user would be unwise to run a PC without any protection. As I'm sure you are aware, an awful lot of posters here have malware issues. Then again, had they been more sophisticated, their chances of downloading and installing the malware would have decreased significantly. That means not opening malicious e-mail attachments or visiting dicey sites and clicking on advertisements for rogue programs. But the average user is not that sophisticated! Besides, I'm sure you *are* running some security software; Windows Firewall would fit into this category. |
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Thank you! I take that as a complement.
"Daave" wrote in message ... "Unknown" wrote in message ... You have jumped to a conclusion. The only conclusion I jumped to is that you are above average when it comes to avoiding malware. Note, I stated the OP has every right to consider advice to be non-relevent. Note that I agree. Unfortunately, a lot of bad advice is offered, therefore it is important that the OP and others in similar situations exercise critical thinking. Yes I do have Windows Firewall. In that case, you *do* have security software installed, which contradicts your earlier statement. Perhaps you meant third-party security software. But I'm not a mind reader! And I stated my status of security software. I would much prefer to educate people on how to keep their computers secure than have them download (which is the most frequent way to get a virus or malware) trash programs. The programs recommended by MVPs and others are not trash programs. However, I will agree that there are many trash programs out there and they need to be avoided at all costs. But running a high-quality antivirus or antimalware program is not the same thing as running a trash program. Furthermore, one does not need to pay a penny for many of these, as long as they are not being used for commercial reasons. This does not have to be a "one or the other" situation. Being educated *and* running high-quality security programs is the most sensible thing to do for most PC users. I might also add: Just read all the problems caused by 'security programs' in these news groups. Those programs you are referring to are trash programs. That's not what I am talking about. In fact, a lot of those problems would have been prevented if the users had been running a simple program like SpywareBlaster, which basically just modifies certain settings in IE or Firefox. STOP AND THINK When was the last time you got a virus? How did you get it? I have never gotten a virus. That doesn't mean I would advocate that other users run with mimimal or no security. "Daave" wrote in message ... "Unknown" wrote in message ... I read all the posts in this thread and others. What's more, I have no security software installed whatsoever and prefer not to. I have never had a virus. I would completely disregard advice to install security software. Perhaps you are above average, Unknown, but the average user would be unwise to run a PC without any protection. As I'm sure you are aware, an awful lot of posters here have malware issues. Then again, had they been more sophisticated, their chances of downloading and installing the malware would have decreased significantly. That means not opening malicious e-mail attachments or visiting dicey sites and clicking on advertisements for rogue programs. But the average user is not that sophisticated! Besides, I'm sure you *are* running some security software; Windows Firewall would fit into this category. |
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On Jan 1, 4:55*pm, "Unknown" wrote:
You are absolutely correct. Based on your responses to any of my posts you don't read. By the way, I don't find what you write interesting in the least. I just keep up with the entire group."Gerry" wrote in message ... Unknown Good for you! I am glad you find what I write so interesting. Sorry but I do not read all of yours. -- Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unknown wrote: I read ALL your posts. "Gerry" wrote in message ... Unknown Start reading what is said. My views on security coincide with the vast majority of those who post here. I certainly do not believe that all problems are caused by malware. Just read a few of my many posts and perhaps you might stop spreading misinformation. -- Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unknown wrote: I read all the posts in this thread and others. What's more, *I have no security software installed whatsoever and prefer not to. I have never had a virus. I would completely disregard advice to install security software. You appear to believe all problems are caused by viruses or malware. The OP has every right to consider advice as being non relevant and seek other ideas or suggestions. If you said jump in the lake to a group of people, why would you get disturbed if they don't do it? I.E. Why do you think only your side of the coin is correct? "Gerry" wrote in message .. . Unknown That point of view is quite reasonable in most situations. However, if you studied past posts to this thread and another you might start to appreciate the other side of the coin. When advice has been freely given, to ask for further advice on the basis that previous advice is put to one side as not relevant is going a step too far. This is especially so when the other person is disregarding advice to install security software where there is none. It is my choice not to offer further advice just as the other person has the choice not to accept advice. Feel free to offer advice to someone who doesn't appreciate the importance of making adequate security arrangements and expects you to help resolve a problem with the way his computer works. -- Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unknown wrote: Haven't you ever asked for advice just to get other opinions or ideas? Why should one be obligated to use the advice asked for? "Gerry" wrote in message .. . status1 Why bother asking for advice if you have no intention of taking it. You have read about an obscure situation and are moulding to fit your own situation. There is a saying "Manage the simple problems well and the complicated ones take care of themselves." That could be a lesson you still have to learn! Installing security is an elementary first step all users need to take when they acquire a computer. Malware is not only transferred by connecting to the internet, although that is predominant way today. Before the internet was in common use malware was transferred by an infected floppy disk. People use to virus check floppy disks before use. -- Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ status1 wrote: Thank you but I think I found what is causing the problem I was reading more about kvm sitches which was what I suspected to be problem I found 3 different links from which I am posting the relevant text "· Mechanical KVM switches often lose the keyboard and mouse on closed computer port channels, which results in errors that require you to restart the affected computer." "The Linksys KVM, like other electronic KVM switches, *is able to "buffer" the transfer from one computer to the other so that there is no damage to your computers. *Also, this KVM remembers the settings of each computer so that your computer or operating system won't suddenly hang or crash because it thinks the keyboard, monitor, and mouse have been detached (a problem with the mechanical switch boxes)" "One limitation of mechanical KVM switches is that any computer not currently selected by the KVM switch does not 'see' a keyboard or mouse connected to it. In normal operation this is not a problem, but while the machine is booting up it will attempt to detect its keyboard and mouse and either fail to boot or boot with an unwanted (e.g. mouseless) configuration" That last one was from Wikipedia and that one really *pinpointed the problem exactly Because the computer was so slow I would turn it on and let it boot up but sometimes I don't want to wait 2 minutes so while it is booting I would switch back to the other computer and do other things then when I think it if it finished booting I would switch back and everything seems fine until I press something on the keyboard I was able to verify it by doing exactly that so I can repeat the problem So the fix is to wait until the computer is booted into windows before using the kvm switch "Gerry" wrote: status1 The security software is readily downloadable with no cost implications. If this mouse/keyboard problem happens often enough, why not eliminate the KVM temporarily and go direct for a while and see what happens. If you go without issue for some time, maybe even try a few reboots to be confident, then you can be pretty dang sure where the problem is. Then, hook the KVM back up. If the problem comes back, you know what the offending link is in the chain. Or, only boot the afflicted box when you know the KVM is set to talk to it (like Wikipedia implies) and see what happens. Look at the WWW site for your KVM if the problem appears to follow the KVM. It might be a well known problem with an easy solution. Complain loudly to them if appropriate. People will frown on this idea, but when it happens again with the KVM, unplug the mouse and keyboard from the KVM and plug it right into the computer - no reboot. Just see what happens. Windows might complain (who cares) and there would be what I consider a very tiny risk of plugging something in already powered up. I would not power off to hook up a network cable, phone line, USB device or whatever. Somethings I would not do with power on so nobody think I am an idiot! My previous thought may be better to try first and prevent wrath from forum members. The politely suggested free AV software is pretty good stuff IMHO. I have come to "trust" them. I have legit copies of McAfee and Norton and can't stand either of them. When they scan or update it takes hours, slows me down, makes me mad, and usually doesn't report a damn thing - a cookie here or there... I can run Spybot and some others, go take a shower, throw some Frisbees or something, come back and it will find all kinds of nasties - none life threatening, but I believe in good housekeeping, so bad things are less likely to happen. |
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