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Old July 11th 12, 04:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Industrial One
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So after all that stress of getting my system back after a failed clone operation, I'm finally operating from a new, fast 2TB disk.

Ever since the migration, I've lost hibernation. I get no error, it just briefly displays the "Windows is hibernating" screen and then switches back to the desktop without hibernating.

The hibernation hotfix that I got a year or so again on this newsgroup now doesn't work because I'm on SP3 (I knew there was a catch to upgrading.)
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Old July 11th 12, 08:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Industrial One wrote:
So after all that stress of getting my system back after a failed clone operation,
I'm finally operating from a new, fast 2TB disk.

Ever since the migration, I've lost hibernation. I get no error, it just briefly
displays the "Windows is hibernating" screen and then switches back to the desktop
without hibernating.

The hibernation hotfix that I got a year or so again on this newsgroup now doesn't
work because I'm on SP3 (I knew there was a catch to upgrading.)


There is a fixit file here, but I doubt this is going to
fix it, seeing as the computer thought it was going into
Hibernation, and then the file creation step failed.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/920730

I'd say there was something wrong with the actual file
operation itself. Like, the Hibernation process wasn't
able to create a file. Is there a hiberfil.sys in there ?
It could be hidden, in terms of file explorer visibility.

If there was an ACPI state issue, you probably wouldn't have
been offered a Hibernate option at all. The option would
have been missing.

If it was the SP2 issue, wouldn't you have seen a dialog
mentioning "Insufficient resources" ? The reason there
wouldn't be a hotfix for SP3, is the replaced files for
the SP2 version, would have been rolled into SP3 so it
already has the fix.

I have a 4GB RAM system, WinXP SP3 32 bit, and the
C:\hiberfil.sys is 3,220,295,680 bytes. My pagefile
is smaller, but since the dump on error is set to
64KB file, that's not a problem. Pagefile just adds
to memory size, in terms of total virtual memory available,
and pagefile doesn't have to match anything otherwise.
Hiberfil.sys has to be able to store the entire RAM image,
in case all the bytes are in use. (The fewer bytes needing
to be written, the faster the Hibernate progress bar
moves during shutdown.)

Paul
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Old July 15th 12, 09:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Industrial One
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On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:42:41 PM UTC, Paul wrote:
Industrial One wrote:
> So after all that stress of getting my system back after a failed clone operation,
> I'm finally operating from a new, fast 2TB disk.
>
> Ever since the migration, I've lost hibernation. I get no error, it just briefly
> displays the "Windows is hibernating" screen and then switches back to the desktop
> without hibernating.
>
> The hibernation hotfix that I got a year or so again on this newsgroup now doesn't
> work because I'm on SP3 (I knew there was a catch to upgrading.)

There is a fixit file here, but I doubt this is going to
fix it, seeing as the computer thought it was going into
Hibernation, and then the file creation step failed.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/920730

I'd say there was something wrong with the actual file
operation itself. Like, the Hibernation process wasn't
able to create a file. Is there a hiberfil.sys in there ?
It could be hidden, in terms of file explorer visibility.

If there was an ACPI state issue, you probably wouldn't have
been offered a Hibernate option at all. The option would
have been missing.

If it was the SP2 issue, wouldn't you have seen a dialog
mentioning "Insufficient resources" ? The reason there
wouldn't be a hotfix for SP3, is the replaced files for
the SP2 version, would have been rolled into SP3 so it
already has the fix.

I have a 4GB RAM system, WinXP SP3 32 bit, and the
C:\hiberfil.sys is 3,220,295,680 bytes. My pagefile
is smaller, but since the dump on error is set to
64KB file, that's not a problem. Pagefile just adds
to memory size, in terms of total virtual memory available,
and pagefile doesn't have to match anything otherwise.
Hiberfil.sys has to be able to store the entire RAM image,
in case all the bytes are in use. (The fewer bytes needing
to be written, the faster the Hibernate progress bar
moves during shutdown.)

Paul


Yeah I've tried everything and nothing is working. Tried to boot up with all services and startup disabled as well. What could it be?
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Old July 15th 12, 09:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Industrial One wrote:


Yeah I've tried everything and nothing is working. Tried to
boot up with all services and startup disabled as well.
What could it be?


Have you looked in Event Viewer ?

Any error message recorded in there ?

Paul

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Old July 15th 12, 10:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Industrial One
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On Sunday, July 15, 2012 8:36:57 PM UTC, Paul wrote:
Industrial One wrote:

>
> Yeah I've tried everything and nothing is working. Tried to
> boot up with all services and startup disabled as well.
> What could it be?

Have you looked in Event Viewer ?

Any error message recorded in there ?

Paul


No, just "The Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) service entered the running state."
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Old July 16th 12, 04:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Industrial One wrote:
N

On Sunday, July 15, 2012 8:36:57 PM UTC, Paul wrote:
Industrial One wrote:

>
> Yeah I've tried everything and nothing is working. Tried to
> boot up with all services and startup disabled as well.
> What could it be?

Have you looked in Event Viewer ?

Any error message recorded in there ?

Paul


No, just "The Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) service entered the running state."


I don't know where else to look for error messages.

"How to troubleshoot hibernation and standby issues in Windows XP"

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907477

*******

The SATA interface, has some power state info. This isn't consistent
with your problem, but it's about the only thing I can think of,
other than a disk problem of some sort, that might explain it.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...hipm-dipm.html

One similar to HIPM/DIPM is LPMDSTATE, which is something used on
Intel storage interfaces.

I'd want the disk interface to *not* have power states, but
to just keep running until shutdown. That way, less can go wrong.

But an issue with one of those, is just grasping at straws. If a
power state error occurred, you'd think there would be a dialog of
some sort, with an error number. The idea would be, you lose
communications with the drive, and some disk operation times out.
If that drive was also the place storing "Events", perhaps there'd
be no log either. I wonder if it's possible to move the
hiberfil.sys to another disk ?

Paul
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Old July 16th 12, 11:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Industrial One
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Default Hibernate not working

On Monday, July 16, 2012 3:02:29 AM UTC, Paul wrote:
Industrial One wrote:
> N
>
> On Sunday, July 15, 2012 8:36:57 PM UTC, Paul wrote:
>> Industrial One wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Yeah I've tried everything and nothing is working. Tried to
>> > boot up with all services and startup disabled as well.
>> > What could it be?
>>
>> Have you looked in Event Viewer ?
>>
>> Any error message recorded in there ?
>>
>> Paul
>
> No, just "The Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) service entered the running state."

I don't know where else to look for error messages.

"How to troubleshoot hibernation and standby issues in Windows XP"

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907477

*******

The SATA interface, has some power state info. This isn't consistent
with your problem, but it's about the only thing I can think of,
other than a disk problem of some sort, that might explain it.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...hipm-dipm.html

One similar to HIPM/DIPM is LPMDSTATE, which is something used on
Intel storage interfaces.

I'd want the disk interface to *not* have power states, but
to just keep running until shutdown. That way, less can go wrong.

But an issue with one of those, is just grasping at straws. If a
power state error occurred, you'd think there would be a dialog of
some sort, with an error number. The idea would be, you lose
communications with the drive, and some disk operation times out.
If that drive was also the place storing "Events", perhaps there'd
be no log either. I wonder if it's possible to move the
hiberfil.sys to another disk ?

Paul


That second link you sent appears to be for Win7. The XP hibernation troubleshooting guide doesn't seem to have anything relevant to my case.

I tried installing a new WinXP on a seperate partition and the hibernate tab was not there at all. I also tried installing on a VM and got the same thing. Trying to do powercfg /h on returned a "not supported by your system" error. Wtf?

All this because I got a new HDD? Can't be, because why would the VM fail?
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Old July 17th 12, 06:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
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Default Hibernate not working

On 11/07/2012 11:45 AM, Industrial One wrote:
So after all that stress of getting my system back after a failed clone operation, I'm finally operating from a new, fast 2TB disk.

Ever since the migration, I've lost hibernation. I get no error, it just briefly displays the "Windows is hibernating" screen and then switches back to the desktop without hibernating.

The hibernation hotfix that I got a year or so again on this newsgroup now doesn't work because I'm on SP3 (I knew there was a catch to upgrading.)


Try disabling your keyboard and mouse from bringing your computer back
to life. Sometimes these two devices are just too sensitive, and any
little movement might cause them to abort the hibernate or sleep.

Yousuf Khan
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Old July 18th 12, 08:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Industrial One
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Default Hibernate not working

On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:20:02 AM UTC, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 11/07/2012 11:45 AM, Industrial One wrote:
> So after all that stress of getting my system back after a failed clone operation, I'm finally operating from a new, fast 2TB disk.
>
> Ever since the migration, I've lost hibernation. I get no error, it just briefly displays the "Windows is hibernating" screen and then switches back to the desktop without hibernating.
>
> The hibernation hotfix that I got a year or so again on this newsgroup now doesn't work because I'm on SP3 (I knew there was a catch to upgrading.)

Try disabling your keyboard and mouse from bringing your computer back
to life. Sometimes these two devices are just too sensitive, and any
little movement might cause them to abort the hibernate or sleep.

Yousuf Khan


How do I do this, I forget. I doubt it's the issue since I didn't move my mouse or press any other key except the sleep key on the keyboard.
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Old July 19th 12, 07:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
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On 18/07/2012 3:46 PM, Industrial One wrote:
On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:20:02 AM UTC, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 11/07/2012 11:45 AM, Industrial One wrote:
> So after all that stress of getting my system back after a failed clone operation, I'm finally operating from a new, fast 2TB disk.
>
> Ever since the migration, I've lost hibernation. I get no error, it just briefly displays the"Windows is hibernating" screen and then switches back to the desktop without hibernating.
>
> The hibernation hotfix that I got a year or so again on this newsgroup now doesn't work because I'm on SP3 (I knew there was a catch to upgrading.)

Try disabling your keyboard and mouse from bringing your computer back
to life. Sometimes these two devices are just too sensitive, and any
little movement might cause them to abort the hibernate or sleep.

Yousuf Khan


How do I do this, I forget. I doubt it's the issue since I didn't move my mouse or press any other key except the sleep key on the keyboard.


I don't know, but that seemed to clear up a problem I was having with
hibernate and sleep under Windows 7. It may not be the same thing.

Try this instead:

Windows XP Standby and Hibernate Problem (Update 5/2009) | Five Percent:
Conserve Energy
http://fivepercent.us/2008/08/15/win...-update-82008/

Yousuf Khan
 




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