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Old October 9th 18, 03:59 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
SC Tom[_3_]
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Default Audio track names in W10 File Explorer

If I put an audio CD in my drive, the title shows as "Audio CD" and the
tracks show as Track01.cda, Track02.cda, etc. I don't recall it being this
way in older versions of Windows, but I may be wrong.
When I play the CD in WMP, the title and track names show so I can see which
song I want to play. Is there any way to have these same names show in File
Explorer?
Running Win10Pro v.1803 Build 17134.286 x64.

TIA!
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SC Tom


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Old October 9th 18, 04:07 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Arlen Holder
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Default Audio track names in W10 File Explorer

On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 22:59:02 -0400, SC Tom wrote:

If I put an audio CD in my drive, the title shows as "Audio CD" and the
tracks show as Track01.cda, Track02.cda, etc. I don't recall it being this
way in older versions of Windows, but I may be wrong.
When I play the CD in WMP, the title and track names show so I can see which
song I want to play. Is there any way to have these same names show in File
Explorer?
Running Win10Pro v.1803 Build 17134.286 x64.


I don't know the answer, but I know that my tracks show up perfectly, but,
I don't even own CDs anymore to test out anything that isn't already stored
on a hard disk drive long ago, when I ripped or otherwise obtained the
songs.

At that time, I used a batch ID3 tag creator to tag the songs that were
ripped to the hard drive, which _may_ be why mine show up as I would expect
them to.

Looking up which batch ID3 tag creator I used long ago, I have this in my
log files...
https://www.mp3tag.de/en/
https://www.mp3tag.de/en/download.html
It wants to go in C:\Program Files (x86)\Mp3tag
I put it in C:\app\editor\audio\mp3tag

Having said that, I realize you're looking at a Redbook? CD format?
Let's look up that format...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compac..._Digital_Audio

There is a section there on how they tag the "tracks" which may help.
Good luck.
--
I realize you were asking about the CD - so if this isn't helpful, please
simply ignore it since it's mostly about the files ripped off the cd.
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Old October 9th 18, 06:23 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Lucifer
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Default Audio track names in W10 File Explorer

On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 22:59:02 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote:

If I put an audio CD in my drive, the title shows as "Audio CD" and the
tracks show as Track01.cda, Track02.cda, etc. I don't recall it being this
way in older versions of Windows, but I may be wrong.


You are wrong.

When I play the CD in WMP, the title and track names show so I can see which
song I want to play. Is there any way to have these same names show in File
Explorer?


No.

Running Win10Pro v.1803 Build 17134.286 x64.

TIA!

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Old October 10th 18, 01:32 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Audio track names in W10 File Explorer

SC Tom wrote:
If I put an audio CD in my drive, the title shows as "Audio CD" and the
tracks show as Track01.cda, Track02.cda, etc. I don't recall it being
this way in older versions of Windows, but I may be wrong.
When I play the CD in WMP, the title and track names show so I can see
which song I want to play. Is there any way to have these same names
show in File Explorer?
Running Win10Pro v.1803 Build 17134.286 x64.

TIA!


It took me forever to get set up for this.

My Win10 drive for this machine decided to do an
"inaccessible boot volume" thing. And StartOverride
wasn't working. Grrr.

*******

The first thing to notice, when doing "Properties" on a
WMA, is it does have space to hold metadata. That's the
first barrier. For example, maybe a .wav file is too old
of a format to hold metadata up near the head of the
file. More modern formats use packetization, and metadata
is simply a packet with a 4CC code that the player
"cannot play". And that way, you can add foreign information
(sort of out-of-band information) to the file.

So at least .wma seems to have some means to hold such info.

There was a web page which shows the "Edit Info" item in
Groove, being used to back-annotate, and then the File Explorer,
at least I got a "title" for my tracks.

I just worked on it long enough to get a picture, and
I'll leave the rest to you.

https://i.postimg.cc/Vk7yPg9g/Win10_Music_knowns.gif

Paul
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Old October 10th 18, 11:52 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Neil
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Default Audio track names in W10 File Explorer

On 10/8/2018 10:59 PM, SC Tom wrote:
If I put an audio CD in my drive, the title shows as "Audio CD" and the
tracks show as Track01.cda, Track02.cda, etc. I don't recall it being
this way in older versions of Windows, but I may be wrong.
When I play the CD in WMP, the title and track names show so I can see
which song I want to play. Is there any way to have these same names
show in File Explorer?
Running Win10Pro v.1803 Build 17134.286 x64.

TIA!

This isn't unique or new to Windows10. Song titles are not file names.
The format of a CD lists its files as you are seeing, which is what File
Explorer has always shown. Programs such as WMP can show the metadata in
a CD's file, thus giving you its song titles, length, etc.

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Neil
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Old October 10th 18, 01:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
SC Tom[_3_]
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"Paul" wrote in message
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SC Tom wrote:
If I put an audio CD in my drive, the title shows as "Audio CD" and the
tracks show as Track01.cda, Track02.cda, etc. I don't recall it being
this way in older versions of Windows, but I may be wrong.
When I play the CD in WMP, the title and track names show so I can see
which song I want to play. Is there any way to have these same names show
in File Explorer?
Running Win10Pro v.1803 Build 17134.286 x64.

TIA!


It took me forever to get set up for this.

My Win10 drive for this machine decided to do an
"inaccessible boot volume" thing. And StartOverride
wasn't working. Grrr.

*******

The first thing to notice, when doing "Properties" on a
WMA, is it does have space to hold metadata. That's the
first barrier. For example, maybe a .wav file is too old
of a format to hold metadata up near the head of the
file. More modern formats use packetization, and metadata
is simply a packet with a 4CC code that the player
"cannot play". And that way, you can add foreign information
(sort of out-of-band information) to the file.

So at least .wma seems to have some means to hold such info.

There was a web page which shows the "Edit Info" item in
Groove, being used to back-annotate, and then the File Explorer,
at least I got a "title" for my tracks.

I just worked on it long enough to get a picture, and
I'll leave the rest to you.

https://i.postimg.cc/Vk7yPg9g/Win10_Music_knowns.gif

Paul


I know how to edit the metadata on a CD I'm burning, but this is a retail CD
(also Alan Parsons Project, BTW) and it won't allow anything to be changed.
If I rip it to my HDD then I could rename it, but not directly on the CD.

Thanks.
--

SC Tom


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Old October 10th 18, 08:48 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Audio track names in W10 File Explorer

SC Tom wrote:


"Paul" wrote in message
news
SC Tom wrote:
If I put an audio CD in my drive, the title shows as "Audio CD" and
the tracks show as Track01.cda, Track02.cda, etc. I don't recall it
being this way in older versions of Windows, but I may be wrong.
When I play the CD in WMP, the title and track names show so I can
see which song I want to play. Is there any way to have these same
names show in File Explorer?
Running Win10Pro v.1803 Build 17134.286 x64.

TIA!


It took me forever to get set up for this.

My Win10 drive for this machine decided to do an
"inaccessible boot volume" thing. And StartOverride
wasn't working. Grrr.

*******

The first thing to notice, when doing "Properties" on a
WMA, is it does have space to hold metadata. That's the
first barrier. For example, maybe a .wav file is too old
of a format to hold metadata up near the head of the
file. More modern formats use packetization, and metadata
is simply a packet with a 4CC code that the player
"cannot play". And that way, you can add foreign information
(sort of out-of-band information) to the file.

So at least .wma seems to have some means to hold such info.

There was a web page which shows the "Edit Info" item in
Groove, being used to back-annotate, and then the File Explorer,
at least I got a "title" for my tracks.

I just worked on it long enough to get a picture, and
I'll leave the rest to you.

https://i.postimg.cc/Vk7yPg9g/Win10_Music_knowns.gif

Paul


I know how to edit the metadata on a CD I'm burning, but this is a
retail CD (also Alan Parsons Project, BTW) and it won't allow anything
to be changed. If I rip it to my HDD then I could rename it, but not
directly on the CD.

Thanks.


You cannot back-annotate read only media.

Short of manipulating the commercial content and repurposing
it, I don't see an obvious mechanism.

I suppose there will be some CDs that cannot be ripped, because
of the various protection mechanisms (Sony malware).

There's the concept of "overlay filesystem", which could
potentially add something to a "view" of something else.
But that would only be about 5% of the problem.

If the content is viewed inside a player, the player
can go to the Internet and look up the track titles and
provide such info inside the player. But there's still
no way to get that info into File Explorer, because the
media is read-only.

Once the disc is ripped, more is possible.

Paul
 




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