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Tony Hwang wrote in message news:pT3Lb.18201$JQ1.4799@pd7tw1no...
Trollslayer@thecave wrote: Without thinking Andrew Bestfrenn spewed forth with the following drivel: I am installing a new hard drive onto a system w/ asus A7V133 motherboard . Trying to format it and install winxp. I have made a boot disk that includes smartdrive.exe When it is booting up it says: detecting primary master (press F4 to skip) detecting secondary master (press F4 to skip) etc. and then lists all drives as not there ie: primary master: none etc. It then is able to boot to the DOS prompt but that is as far as I can go. Cannot get to the D: prompt, because it has not detected drive D (cd ROM) none of the commands work A:FORMAT does not work FORMAT/ u does not work FORMAT / s does not work FDISK does not work please help how do I get it to detect my hard drive etc. on bootup? I think it is a bios setting of some kind. Check that the jumpers are set correctly. Most of the time when a drive is not recognized it's for that reason. Hi, What kinda hard drive? Tony Fujitsu MPC3102AT 10 gig |
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"Richard Urban" wrote in message ...
If the drive isn't detected, why do you think you can format that which isn't there? Check your cables. Check your bios settings. Check everything considered hardware. ----------------- thankyou for your interest. It cannot possibly be the data cable, because I tried a second one from a working computer. It cannot be the power cable, because I tried the power feed from the CD Rom, which was working initially, For some reason the bios is not detecting the IDE drive, whether I set it to autodetect or if I set it to user type hdd and input the parameters. Now I am really stuck because in desperation I set the bios IDE setting from 'auto' to 'none', and I cannot get back in to switch it . It is shutting me out with only the two options 'none' or 'disabled' to choose from. I cannot switch it back to autodetect or anything else because those options are no longer available. Any help with this would be tremendous. Andrew. -- Regards Richard Urban aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-) ***************************** "Andrew Bestfrenn" wrote in message om... I am installing a new hard drive onto a system w/ asus A7V133 motherboard . Trying to format it and install winxp. I have made a boot disk that includes smartdrive.exe When it is booting up it says: detecting primary master (press F4 to skip) detecting secondary master (press F4 to skip) etc. and then lists all drives as not there ie: primary master: none etc. It then is able to boot to the DOS prompt but that is as far as I can go. Cannot get to the D: prompt, because it has not detected drive D (cd ROM) none of the commands work A:FORMAT does not work FORMAT/ u does not work FORMAT / s does not work FDISK does not work please help how do I get it to detect my hard drive etc. on bootup? I think it is a bios setting of some kind. |
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It may be time to consider a new hard drive. BTW, 2 years ago my 2 sons and
I all had Asus A7v133 M/B's. It's not the board, unless it is defective in some way -- Regards: Richard Urban aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-) "Andrew Bestfrenn" wrote in message om... "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... If the drive isn't detected, why do you think you can format that which isn't there? Check your cables. Check your bios settings. Check everything considered hardware. ----------------- thankyou for your interest. It cannot possibly be the data cable, because I tried a second one from a working computer. It cannot be the power cable, because I tried the power feed from the CD Rom, which was working initially, For some reason the bios is not detecting the IDE drive, whether I set it to autodetect or if I set it to user type hdd and input the parameters. Now I am really stuck because in desperation I set the bios IDE setting from 'auto' to 'none', and I cannot get back in to switch it . It is shutting me out with only the two options 'none' or 'disabled' to choose from. I cannot switch it back to autodetect or anything else because those options are no longer available. Any help with this would be tremendous. Andrew. -- Regards Richard Urban aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-) ***************************** "Andrew Bestfrenn" wrote in message om... I am installing a new hard drive onto a system w/ asus A7V133 motherboard . Trying to format it and install winxp. I have made a boot disk that includes smartdrive.exe When it is booting up it says: detecting primary master (press F4 to skip) detecting secondary master (press F4 to skip) etc. and then lists all drives as not there ie: primary master: none etc. It then is able to boot to the DOS prompt but that is as far as I can go. Cannot get to the D: prompt, because it has not detected drive D (cd ROM) none of the commands work A:FORMAT does not work FORMAT/ u does not work FORMAT / s does not work FDISK does not work please help how do I get it to detect my hard drive etc. on bootup? I think it is a bios setting of some kind. |
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I think it's about time you took the computer to a good shop.
-- Steve C. Ray Replace "mail" with "36db" "Andrew Bestfrenn" wrote in message om... "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... If the drive isn't detected, why do you think you can format that which isn't there? Check your cables. Check your bios settings. Check everything considered hardware. ----------------- thankyou for your interest. It cannot possibly be the data cable, because I tried a second one from a working computer. It cannot be the power cable, because I tried the power feed from the CD Rom, which was working initially, For some reason the bios is not detecting the IDE drive, whether I set it to autodetect or if I set it to user type hdd and input the parameters. Now I am really stuck because in desperation I set the bios IDE setting from 'auto' to 'none', and I cannot get back in to switch it . It is shutting me out with only the two options 'none' or 'disabled' to choose from. I cannot switch it back to autodetect or anything else because those options are no longer available. Any help with this would be tremendous. Andrew. -- Regards Richard Urban aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-) ***************************** "Andrew Bestfrenn" wrote in message om... I am installing a new hard drive onto a system w/ asus A7V133 motherboard . Trying to format it and install winxp. I have made a boot disk that includes smartdrive.exe When it is booting up it says: detecting primary master (press F4 to skip) detecting secondary master (press F4 to skip) etc. and then lists all drives as not there ie: primary master: none etc. It then is able to boot to the DOS prompt but that is as far as I can go. Cannot get to the D: prompt, because it has not detected drive D (cd ROM) none of the commands work A:FORMAT does not work FORMAT/ u does not work FORMAT / s does not work FDISK does not work please help how do I get it to detect my hard drive etc. on bootup? I think it is a bios setting of some kind. |
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Andrew Bestfrenn wrote:
"relic" wrote in message . .. Andrew Bestfrenn wrote: Now I have an even bigger problem. I was in the bios trying different settings. It is a Fujitsu MPC3102A hard drive I tried setting the bios to: user type: HDD Translation method: manual cylinders: 16383 head: 16 sector: 63 multisector transfers: maximum smart monitoring: enabled PIO mode: 4 Ultra DMA mode: 2 I saved the new settings and rebooted this time it booted up and said 'primary master fail' while listing primary slave, secondary master, secondary slave etc. as: none It seemed to be at least detecting the hard drive or trying to. From there I tried a program called Device Manager It said 'cannot detect hard disk' so I exited. I kept trying to get either Device Manager or the BIOS to detect the hard drive. NOW, I have somehow reset the bios so that I cannot get even get into the IDE settings. When I bootup from A drive, I press delete to enter setup, but now hen I enter setup, it no longer takes me straight to the boot menu, but to the main menu instead. From the bios setup main menu, I go to the boot menu, and IDE hard drive is listed as 'none' . When I try to change the IDE hard drive setting from 'none' (and get back to the IDE parameter settings) , I cannot get in. I get two thoroughly demoralizing options, either 'none' or 'disabled' Now what do I do? ---------- You won't be able to select a boot device that isn't seen first. 1. If you set the IDE Devices to Auto, do they detect anything? 2. What make/model is your Motherboard? 3. Where did you get the XP CD? It sounds like a copy of a KaZaA download, not a Microsoft Windows XP CD. -------- 1. no, it was initially set to autodetect for the IDE hard drive, and though it did not detect the IDE drive, at least it allowed me several options other than 'auto' when I clicked on it. (user type, etc.) Now that I have switched it from 'auto' to 'none' , when I click on 'none', to change it, it only gives me one other option: 'disabled', so therefore I can't switch it back to autodetect or even get in to manually set the parameters. 2. the motherboard is an asus a7V133 3. the xp cd is a download thankyou for your help and interest It sounds like you're mixing up screens. If you don't have your motherboard manual, you can download one he http://www.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/sock...a7v133-105.pdf The 'Auto', 'None', 'Disabled' choices you're talking about should be on the "BOOT" menu. You're not going to be able to do anything there until the disk is detected. Note that every BIOS menu has a Reset Defaults option (F5), do that! In the BIOS, select the "MAIN" menu (page 54 in the manual) and set the four IDE channels to Auto like shown in the picture. If you highlight each and hit Enter, you should see a sub-menu like shown on page 55. With it set to Auto at the top, it should fill out the drive statistics beneath. If it does not, there is no drive detected. If you start with the Primary Master, it should see your disk assuming that's where you installed it (that's where it /should/ be installed). You can check the other three positions to see if your hard disk is detected on any of them. While you're doing that, is your CD being detected? If it is detected somewhere else, I'd move it (and its master/slave jumper) so it is the Primary Master. If it isn't detected anywhere, either the disk is bad (you need a new one), the motherboard is bad (ditto), or the cabling to the drive is not installed correctly. I'd check the cabling and jumpers: The IDE Cable is made with 3 plugs like this "|_______|___|" The 1st plug (at the end of the long piece from the middle plug) goes to the motherboard. Most are keyed on the edge, but not all; pin 1 is on the end with the colored wire on the edge of the cable... pin 1 on the motherboard is marked where you can see it, pin 1 on the drive end (last plug) is towards the Power Plug. On the drive will be a sticker or some labling of where to place a jumper over pins to set Master or Slave (some drives also have a Cable Select setting). Make sure the disk is jumpered to be the Master. If it still doesn't get detected, try it connected as Secondary Master to see if it could just be a problem with the Primary IDE Channel. You're not going to be able to begin installing anything until a Disk is detected in BIOS. Cables, Jumpers, BIOS Settings all have to be right, then if it doesn't work, Bad Disk, Bad Cable (but you can easily try another one), Bad Motherboard. -- - relic - They call it PMS because Mad Cow Disease was already taken. |
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JohnR wrote:
Bob Harris wrote: || then it is || neither partitioned nor formated, so of course DOS won't see it. DOS can still see it. What else would fdisk and format be for? true... DOS will see the drive, but will not assign a drive letter until after FDisk is run. |
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relic wrote:
Richard Urban wrote: He said that the BIOS was showing no drives as detected. How do you think that DOS will see what the computer itself doesn't? Uh... /READ/ the last two posts so you can see how silly you look to us. actually, you both are correct, but Richard's wording is slightly off some. The OP has said that the drives were not detected by the BIOS, so of course DOS will not be able to see the drives, formatted or not. and yes... on a system where the BIOS detects the drives, then DOS can see them, even if they haven't been FDisk'd or formatted. They just don't have a drive letter until after the FDisk program has been run |
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Daniel L. Belton wrote:
relic wrote: Richard Urban wrote: He said that the BIOS was showing no drives as detected. How do you think that DOS will see what the computer itself doesn't? Uh... /READ/ the last two posts so you can see how silly you look to us. actually, you both are correct, but Richard's wording is slightly off some. Actually not. I said that his answer had nothing to do with _why_ JohnR said what he did. It didn't. His post 'corrected' JohnR's post wrongly. Urban kept harping on what the OP had said, blithely unaware of the meaning (apparently) of the two posts he replied to. If he felt the need to comment to the OP, he should have done that instead of replying to whom he did. ....but what else would you expect from a microsoft.public.windowsxp.xxxx poster. -- - relic - They call it PMS because Mad Cow Disease was already taken. |
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"JohnR" wrote in message ...
Andrew Bestfrenn wrote: ew hard drive onto a system || w/ asus A7V133 motherboard . || Trying to format it and install winxp. || I have made a boot disk that includes smartdrive.exe || || When it is booting up || it says: detecting primary master (press F4 to skip) || detecting secondary master (press F4 to skip) || || etc. and then lists all drives as not there || ie: primary master: none || etc. || || It then is able to boot to the DOS prompt || but that is as far as I can go. Cannot get to the || D: prompt, because it has not detected drive D (cd ROM) || none of the commands work || A:FORMAT does not work || FORMAT/ u does not work || FORMAT / s does not work || FDISK does not work || please help || how do I get it to detect my hard drive etc. || on bootup? I think it is a bios setting of || some kind. Get into the BIOS. Be sure it is set to autodetect rather than to use user settings. If the option exists in your BIOS, have it detect the drives right away. If you don't know how to do this, post specs on your motherboard and/or system brand and model. ====== thankyou for your response Here are the specs of the system AMD Duron 750 megahertz cpu. motherboard: Socket A for AMD®: Athlon®: / Duron®::550MHz ~ 1.3GHz+ CPU Chipset VIA®:KT133A and VIA®: V82C686B FSB 266/200MHz Memory 3 x DIMM Socket to Support Max. 1.5GB PC133/VC133 non-ECC SDRAM Expansion Slots 1 x AGP Pro / AGP 4X 4 x PCI 1 x PCI/AMR Shared VGA AGP Pro/4X Slot IDE Ports 4 x UltraDMA/100 (PromiseR ATA-100) Audio (Optional) AC ' 97 Compliant Codec IDE RAID (Optional) Promise®: IDE RAID Controller to Support RAID 0 or 1 Special Features Power Loss Recovery, ASUS®: JumperFree?, CPU Throttle, STR (Suspend-to-RAM), SFS (Stepless Frequency Selection) Back Panel I/O Ports 2 x USB Ports 1 x Parallel Port (EPP, ECP), 2 x Serial Ports 1 x PS/2 Keyboard Port, 1 x PS/2 Mouse Port 1 x Game/MIDI (Optional) 1 x Audio I/O (Optional) Onboard I/O Interface One Header Supports Additional 2 USB Ports 20-pin ASUS®: Panel SIR (Integrated Serial Infrared) Headphone MIC CD/AUX/Modem Audio In CPU/Power Supply/Chassis Fan ATX Power IDE LED BIOS 2Mbit Award®: BIOS, PnP, ACPI, SMBIOS 2.3, Trend®: ChipAway Virus (TCAV), Green, Boot Block BIOS Industrial Standard PCI v2.2 and USB v1.1 Manageability WfM 2.0, DMI 2.0, WOL, WOR, Chassis Intrusion, SMBus the cables are not the problem, as I have tested them on another system. they are properly connected, etc. Here is what has happened. the system boots, without detecting the drive. Went into the bios to see the settings. The bios was already set on autodetect, but it was not detecting the IDE. I tried switching from auto to user type hdd and inputting the parameters. I tried setting the bios to: user type: HDD Translation method: manual cylinders: 16383 head: 16 sector: 63 multisector transfers: maximum smart monitoring: enabled PIO mode: 4 Ultra DMA mode: 2 I saved the new settings and rebooted this time it booted up and said 'primary master fail' while listing primary slave, secondary master, secondary slave etc. as: none It seemed to be at least detecting the hard drive or trying to. From there I tried a program called Device Manager It said 'cannot detect hard disk' so I exited. I kept trying to get either Device Manager or the BIOS to detect the hard drive. NOW, I have somehow reset the bios so that I cannot get even get into the IDE settings. When I bootup from A drive, I press delete to enter setup, but now hen I enter setup, it no longer takes me straight to the boot menu, but to the main menu instead. From the bios setup main menu, I go to the boot menu, and IDE hard drive is listed as 'none' . When I try to change the IDE hard drive setting from 'none' (and get back to the IDE parameter settings) , I cannot get in. I get two thoroughly demoralizing options, either 'none' or 'disabled' (What initially caused the problem was that I tried to install winxp from a cd in drive D. I got a warning suggesting I use smartdrive.exe but tried to install without it. I got all sorts of messages saying 'file not copied exactly' etc. eventually the system froze and I had to reboot with WINXP partially installed , and voila: no drives could be detected.) Now I have an even bigger problem. I was in the bios trying different settings and in desperation switched the IDE setting to 'none' and now cannot even switch it back. It is a Fujitsu MPC3102A hard drive that I am trying to install. |
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"JohnR" wrote in message ...
Andrew Bestfrenn wrote: ew hard drive onto a system || w/ asus A7V133 motherboard . || Trying to format it and install winxp. || I have made a boot disk that includes smartdrive.exe || || When it is booting up || it says: detecting primary master (press F4 to skip) || detecting secondary master (press F4 to skip) || || etc. and then lists all drives as not there || ie: primary master: none || etc. || || It then is able to boot to the DOS prompt || but that is as far as I can go. Cannot get to the || D: prompt, because it has not detected drive D (cd ROM) || none of the commands work || A:FORMAT does not work || FORMAT/ u does not work || FORMAT / s does not work || FDISK does not work || please help || how do I get it to detect my hard drive etc. || on bootup? I think it is a bios setting of || some kind. Get into the BIOS. Be sure it is set to autodetect rather than to use user settings. If the option exists in your BIOS, have it detect the drives right away. If you don't know how to do this, post specs on your motherboard and/or system brand and model. ====== thankyou for your response Here are the specs of the system AMD Duron 750 megahertz cpu. motherboard: Socket A for AMD®: Athlon®: / Duron®::550MHz ~ 1.3GHz+ CPU Chipset VIA®:KT133A and VIA®: V82C686B FSB 266/200MHz Memory 3 x DIMM Socket to Support Max. 1.5GB PC133/VC133 non-ECC SDRAM Expansion Slots 1 x AGP Pro / AGP 4X 4 x PCI 1 x PCI/AMR Shared VGA AGP Pro/4X Slot IDE Ports 4 x UltraDMA/100 (PromiseR ATA-100) Audio (Optional) AC ' 97 Compliant Codec IDE RAID (Optional) Promise®: IDE RAID Controller to Support RAID 0 or 1 Special Features Power Loss Recovery, ASUS®: JumperFree?, CPU Throttle, STR (Suspend-to-RAM), SFS (Stepless Frequency Selection) Back Panel I/O Ports 2 x USB Ports 1 x Parallel Port (EPP, ECP), 2 x Serial Ports 1 x PS/2 Keyboard Port, 1 x PS/2 Mouse Port 1 x Game/MIDI (Optional) 1 x Audio I/O (Optional) Onboard I/O Interface One Header Supports Additional 2 USB Ports 20-pin ASUS®: Panel SIR (Integrated Serial Infrared) Headphone MIC CD/AUX/Modem Audio In CPU/Power Supply/Chassis Fan ATX Power IDE LED BIOS 2Mbit Award®: BIOS, PnP, ACPI, SMBIOS 2.3, Trend®: ChipAway Virus (TCAV), Green, Boot Block BIOS Industrial Standard PCI v2.2 and USB v1.1 Manageability WfM 2.0, DMI 2.0, WOL, WOR, Chassis Intrusion, SMBus the cables are not the problem, as I have tested them on another system. they are properly connected, etc. Here is what has happened. the system boots, without detecting the drive. Went into the bios to see the settings. The bios was already set on autodetect, but it was not detecting the IDE. I tried switching from auto to user type hdd and inputting the parameters. I tried setting the bios to: user type: HDD Translation method: manual cylinders: 16383 head: 16 sector: 63 multisector transfers: maximum smart monitoring: enabled PIO mode: 4 Ultra DMA mode: 2 I saved the new settings and rebooted this time it booted up and said 'primary master fail' while listing primary slave, secondary master, secondary slave etc. as: none It seemed to be at least detecting the hard drive or trying to. From there I tried a program called Device Manager It said 'cannot detect hard disk' so I exited. I kept trying to get either Device Manager or the BIOS to detect the hard drive. NOW, I have somehow reset the bios so that I cannot get even get into the IDE settings. When I bootup from A drive, I press delete to enter setup, but now hen I enter setup, it no longer takes me straight to the boot menu, but to the main menu instead. From the bios setup main menu, I go to the boot menu, and IDE hard drive is listed as 'none' . When I try to change the IDE hard drive setting from 'none' (and get back to the IDE parameter settings) , I cannot get in. I get two thoroughly demoralizing options, either 'none' or 'disabled' (What initially caused the problem was that I tried to install winxp from a cd in drive D. I got a warning suggesting I use smartdrive.exe but tried to install without it. I got all sorts of messages saying 'file not copied exactly' etc. eventually the system froze and I had to reboot with WINXP partially installed , and voila: no drives could be detected.) Now I have an even bigger problem. I was in the bios trying different settings and in desperation switched the IDE setting to 'none' and now cannot even switch it back. It is a Fujitsu MPC3102A hard drive that I am trying to install. |
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I thought he said new hard drive? 10GB new? New, when?
Have you tried the hard drive in the other system you pulled the cable from? Is it recognized there? Have you tried the Hard drive in the system you grabbed the cable from? "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... It may be time to consider a new hard drive. BTW, 2 years ago my 2 sons and I all had Asus A7v133 M/B's. It's not the board, unless it is defective in some way -- Regards: Richard Urban aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-) "Andrew Bestfrenn" wrote in message om... "Richard Urban" wrote in message ... If the drive isn't detected, why do you think you can format that which isn't there? Check your cables. Check your bios settings. Check everything considered hardware. ----------------- thankyou for your interest. It cannot possibly be the data cable, because I tried a second one from a working computer. It cannot be the power cable, because I tried the power feed from the CD Rom, which was working initially, For some reason the bios is not detecting the IDE drive, whether I set it to autodetect or if I set it to user type hdd and input the parameters. Now I am really stuck because in desperation I set the bios IDE setting from 'auto' to 'none', and I cannot get back in to switch it . It is shutting me out with only the two options 'none' or 'disabled' to choose from. I cannot switch it back to autodetect or anything else because those options are no longer available. Any help with this would be tremendous. Andrew. -- Regards Richard Urban aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-) ***************************** "Andrew Bestfrenn" wrote in message om... I am installing a new hard drive onto a system w/ asus A7V133 motherboard . Trying to format it and install winxp. I have made a boot disk that includes smartdrive.exe When it is booting up it says: detecting primary master (press F4 to skip) detecting secondary master (press F4 to skip) etc. and then lists all drives as not there ie: primary master: none etc. It then is able to boot to the DOS prompt but that is as far as I can go. Cannot get to the D: prompt, because it has not detected drive D (cd ROM) none of the commands work A:FORMAT does not work FORMAT/ u does not work FORMAT / s does not work FDISK does not work please help how do I get it to detect my hard drive etc. on bootup? I think it is a bios setting of some kind. |
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Trollslayer@thecave wrote:
Hi, What kinda hard drive? Tony Why are you responding to me nitwit. Because you have a Pussy? rau Himmel Still trying to outrun the death grip clutches of The Strangler |
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----- Andrew Bestfrenn wrote: ----- I am installing a new hard drive onto a system w/ asus A7V133 motherboard . Trying to format it and install winxp. I have made a boot disk that includes smartdrive.exe When it is booting up it says: detecting primary master (press F4 to skip) detecting secondary master (press F4 to skip) etc. and then lists all drives as not there ie: primary master: none etc. It then is able to boot to the DOS prompt but that is as far as I can go. Cannot get to the D: prompt, because it has not detected drive D (cd ROM) none of the commands work A:FORMAT does not work FORMAT/ u does not work FORMAT / s does not work FDISK does not work please help how do I get it to detect my hard drive etc. on bootup? I think it is a bios setting of some kind. |
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