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I want to get rid of XP OEM and start fresh
No, all I have is a partition on my hard drive that contains the OEM
installation. I have no disk other than the recovery disks I made when I first set the system up. "Tom" wrote in message ... Do you have the OEM install disk (not a recovery disk)? "Lynne" wrote in message news:HT41e.2541$Mt5.1488@fed1read01... Be that as it may, it matters to me. I don't like the idea of having to "restore" to the original setup should something go wrong. Compaq saw fit to include a lot of stuff that I could care less about. It took me hours to get rid of all of it. Now, I'd like to simply start fresh with my own version, with my own disk. Lynne "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Lynne It is not easy to see what you hope to gain by doing this, other than the fact that you will have an official Windows CD.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne |
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I failed to include several pieces of information in my original post.
Compaq gave me a flat no, that I have to purchase the full retail version of XP home, that the upgrade retail version won't work, that it is not possible to install the upgrade version, which makes no sense to me. Before I called and spoke to Compaq, my game plan was to format my C drive (the one that has OEM XP home on it), pop in the XP home (upgrade version) disk, insert the Win9x cd when prompted for proof of ownership of a prior version of Windows. But Compaq told me "no way, no how" so I posted to this group. I have legit, no longer used copies of Windows 95 and 98. To an earlier responder to my original post: no, I do not have an OEM XP disk - XP is preinstalled on a separate partition on my hard drive. That's what I would have to restore from should something happen. As to someone's post asking why I didn't buy a copy of XP Pro, I've already purchased WinXP home ed., upgrade, retail version - I got it two weeks ago at Best Buy - it will cost me $39.99 after the rebate. I thought that was a pretty good deal. It looks like the post from Kerry Brown has the information I was looking for - verifying that I can format and do an clean installation from that point. That's what I was trying to find out. Again, it just didn't make sense that Compaq would tell me that there is no way I can install an upgrade version. Compaq made no mention of formatting, having a prior version, etc. Their response led me to post here, for verification, one way or the other on how to do what I want to do. Thanks so much. Lynne "Kerry Brown" *o*m wrote in message ... "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne Lynne When installing the XP Home upgrade it looks for a qualifying product. Upgrading from XP Home OEM to XP Home Retail is not supported. See he http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;292607 You could delete the partition and do a clean install, during the installation you will be asked to insert a qualifying media into a CD drive. At this point if you have a Windows 98/Me CD put it into the drive and the upgrade will proceed. If the 98/Me CD was from another computer this is against the terms of Microsoft's EULA. Whether it is illegal, immoral, unethical etc. is the subject of much debate. You could also try one of the procedures at the following link: http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm They may not work in this case or they may end up doing a reinstall and you will have to reinstall all your programs. Please note doing a clean install will erase all your data. Back up any needed data before trying any of these suggestions. Kerry |
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Michael Stevens has it right for you in what to do in your situation.
"Lynne" wrote in message news:CBb1e.3874$Mt5.65@fed1read01... No, all I have is a partition on my hard drive that contains the OEM installation. I have no disk other than the recovery disks I made when I first set the system up. "Tom" wrote in message ... Do you have the OEM install disk (not a recovery disk)? "Lynne" wrote in message news:HT41e.2541$Mt5.1488@fed1read01... Be that as it may, it matters to me. I don't like the idea of having to "restore" to the original setup should something go wrong. Compaq saw fit to include a lot of stuff that I could care less about. It took me hours to get rid of all of it. Now, I'd like to simply start fresh with my own version, with my own disk. Lynne "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Lynne It is not easy to see what you hope to gain by doing this, other than the fact that you will have an official Windows CD.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne |
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I personally do not care if you had me in your message filters, killfiles
are people who typically avoid seeing their words pointed out to them when they are wrong or inconclusive with their words (as MPT does to so many, when they point out to her, as she violates her own rules). I simply asked you a question, if you don't want to explain it, that is perfectly fine and I don't care; it shows your willingness to explain what this means to you as you get festered over it, as well as shows your level of an MVP, IMHO. Anyway, my second reponse was a legitmnate question, which was: But, those are "official" versions right (as long as they come with the certifiable documentation, e.g. COA label, etc)? You then get testy with the "I'm not in the mood for splitting hairs" thingie, LOL. Maybe you should give it up for a time, or take some strong muscle relaxers before doing newsgroup readings and replies. Note, my original questions were not nasty, nor were they posted to get a rise, I would have asked any other the very same thing, had they posted in the same manner. "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom If I didn't have patience, your name and ID would be in a message rule.. I know that you consider yourself smart by questioning almost everything that I or other MVPs say, but I consider behaviour like yours to be 'compulsive', as probably will many other people.. And no, I am not going to explain anything to you just so that your ego can take a boost.. if you are happy for the world and his dog to see you as a 'nitpicking' troll, then you are doing an excellent job.. For the record, you don't get me down at all.. your posts amuse me.. keep up the good work.. as long as you keep making yourself look bad, the rest of us can bask in your wake.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... *Mike Hall MS-MVP, Hmm, gets testy, and refuses to explain what "Official" versions mean to him* Bottom line, whether you lack patience or not (wonder why you post here if you possess those attributes), anything sold by MS to OEMs is "Official", and in this context does not mean qualifying as I ask simply ask you what "Official" was (too bad you cannot answer the question). Did I split your last hair Mikey? "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom It means whatever you want it to mean.. I am not in the mood to split hairs with anybody right about now.. perhaps you might want to ask the OP directly as to whether she understood what point I was making.. whatever makes you happy.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... But, those are "official" versions right (as long as they come with the certifiable documentation, e.g. COA label, etc)? But I guess it needed to be pointed out that "qualifying" media is what she needs. "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... An OEM recovery CD maybe?.. as opposed to an OEM CD bought with a piece of hardware or retail version? -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... An OEM version is not official? Please elaborate, as I thought any legally purchased versions of Windows are "official". "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Lynne It is not easy to see what you hope to gain by doing this, other than the fact that you will have an official Windows CD.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne |
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"Lynne" wrote in message
news:Rkc1e.3875$Mt5.2812@fed1read01... I failed to include several pieces of information in my original post. Compaq gave me a flat no, that I have to purchase the full retail version of XP home, that the upgrade retail version won't work, that it is not possible to install the upgrade version, which makes no sense to me. Before I called and spoke to Compaq, my game plan was to format my C drive (the one that has OEM XP home on it), pop in the XP home (upgrade version) disk, insert the Win9x cd when prompted for proof of ownership of a prior version of Windows. But Compaq told me "no way, no how" so I posted to this group. I have legit, no longer used copies of Windows 95 and 98. To an earlier responder to my original post: no, I do not have an OEM XP disk - XP is preinstalled on a separate partition on my hard drive. That's what I would have to restore from should something happen. As to someone's post asking why I didn't buy a copy of XP Pro, I've already purchased WinXP home ed., upgrade, retail version - I got it two weeks ago at Best Buy - it will cost me $39.99 after the rebate. I thought that was a pretty good deal. It looks like the post from Kerry Brown has the information I was looking for - verifying that I can format and do an clean installation from that point. That's what I was trying to find out. Again, it just didn't make sense that Compaq would tell me that there is no way I can install an upgrade version. Compaq made no mention of formatting, having a prior version, etc. Their response led me to post here, for verification, one way or the other on how to do what I want to do. Thanks so much. Lynne One of my friend's daughters used to work at a call centre that did Compaq support. They have a binder with answers to questions. They are not allowed to deviate from the scripts they are given. If your question doesn't fit any of the pre-existing scenarios they are told to say no, you must run the system restore to solve your problem. Their overriding concern was how long the support person was on the phone. Solving the problem didn't enter into the equation. Kerry |
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I wondered why he just kept repeating himself, rather than actually
responding to my question. This was online, with both of us typing, so it got a little redundant. I kept asking and he kept giving me the same answer. When I told him I doubted I was the only person on the planet that wanted to do this, I got a "I've given you the correct answer, deal with it" type of response. Now, I'm mulling over the wisdom of buying a brand new hard drive (as a 2nd drive - set as the master) and starting from that point, keeping my current drive (with everything I've accumulated for the past year intact) as a 2nd drive. I think I read somewhere that I can transfer old files and settings from old drive to new during the installation. I'll do some more research. Anyone have any advice on trying this avenue or am I making a simple process even more complicated? Lynne "Kerry Brown" *o*m wrote in message ... "Lynne" wrote in message news:Rkc1e.3875$Mt5.2812@fed1read01... I failed to include several pieces of information in my original post. Compaq gave me a flat no, that I have to purchase the full retail version of XP home, that the upgrade retail version won't work, that it is not possible to install the upgrade version, which makes no sense to me. Before I called and spoke to Compaq, my game plan was to format my C drive (the one that has OEM XP home on it), pop in the XP home (upgrade version) disk, insert the Win9x cd when prompted for proof of ownership of a prior version of Windows. But Compaq told me "no way, no how" so I posted to this group. I have legit, no longer used copies of Windows 95 and 98. To an earlier responder to my original post: no, I do not have an OEM XP disk - XP is preinstalled on a separate partition on my hard drive. That's what I would have to restore from should something happen. As to someone's post asking why I didn't buy a copy of XP Pro, I've already purchased WinXP home ed., upgrade, retail version - I got it two weeks ago at Best Buy - it will cost me $39.99 after the rebate. I thought that was a pretty good deal. It looks like the post from Kerry Brown has the information I was looking for - verifying that I can format and do an clean installation from that point. That's what I was trying to find out. Again, it just didn't make sense that Compaq would tell me that there is no way I can install an upgrade version. Compaq made no mention of formatting, having a prior version, etc. Their response led me to post here, for verification, one way or the other on how to do what I want to do. Thanks so much. Lynne One of my friend's daughters used to work at a call centre that did Compaq support. They have a binder with answers to questions. They are not allowed to deviate from the scripts they are given. If your question doesn't fit any of the pre-existing scenarios they are told to say no, you must run the system restore to solve your problem. Their overriding concern was how long the support person was on the phone. Solving the problem didn't enter into the equation. Kerry |
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"Lynne" wrote in message
news:Cgf1e.4645$Mt5.3453@fed1read01... I wondered why he just kept repeating himself, rather than actually responding to my question. This was online, with both of us typing, so it got a little redundant. I kept asking and he kept giving me the same answer. When I told him I doubted I was the only person on the planet that wanted to do this, I got a "I've given you the correct answer, deal with it" type of response. Now, I'm mulling over the wisdom of buying a brand new hard drive (as a 2nd drive - set as the master) and starting from that point, keeping my current drive (with everything I've accumulated for the past year intact) as a 2nd drive. I think I read somewhere that I can transfer old files and settings from old drive to new during the installation. I'll do some more research. Anyone have any advice on trying this avenue or am I making a simple process even more complicated? Lynne Having a second drive can be a nice option. You can store backups on the second drive. Before going any further, have you made backup CD/DVD's of the restore partition? I would do this before proceeding. Then in the worst case scenario or if you want to sell the computer in the future you can restore it to the factory settings. Once you have a verified CD/DVD backup make a second copy. Then you can delete the restore partition and do whatever you want regarding hard drives, partitioning etc. You can transfer some program settings and all of your data files to a new install from a second hard drive. In most cases you can't transfer the actual programs. They will need to be reinstalled. If you use any of the original Compaq supplied programs this isn't possible without restoring the whole setup. It's a catch-22 with most brand name PC's. It is possible using the installation software supplied with some hard drives or programs like Norton Ghost to make a clone of your old hard drive to the new one and proceed from there. You would still run into the original upgrade problem of OEM to Retail possibly not working unless you format and do a clean install. At least you would still have your original setup on the old drive if needed. You may also have to disconnect the old drive while doing the install. Windows will see the OEM XP on the second drive and may not allow install. You would also have to take ownership of the files on the second drive after doing a clean install. The procedure is he http://support.microsoft.com/default...308421&sd=tech Kerry |
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Tom
I have seen your posts in other newsgroups, as well you know.. you have a tendency to want to criticize others, especially if they are using terms other than what you feel they should.. good for you.. Re. my status as an MVP, if Microsoft feel that my standard of support no longer qualifies for the status, I will lose it.. MVP is not a lifetime award.. it has to be earned yearly.. You are going to have to wait until 2006 to see the outcome.. either that or complain to the MVP organisation about my performance.. e-mail me, and I will send you the IDs of people to whom you can forward complaints.. maybe you could get me struck of before 2006.. would that make you feel better?.. your call.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... I personally do not care if you had me in your message filters, killfiles are people who typically avoid seeing their words pointed out to them when they are wrong or inconclusive with their words (as MPT does to so many, when they point out to her, as she violates her own rules). I simply asked you a question, if you don't want to explain it, that is perfectly fine and I don't care; it shows your willingness to explain what this means to you as you get festered over it, as well as shows your level of an MVP, IMHO. Anyway, my second reponse was a legitmnate question, which was: But, those are "official" versions right (as long as they come with the certifiable documentation, e.g. COA label, etc)? You then get testy with the "I'm not in the mood for splitting hairs" thingie, LOL. Maybe you should give it up for a time, or take some strong muscle relaxers before doing newsgroup readings and replies. Note, my original questions were not nasty, nor were they posted to get a rise, I would have asked any other the very same thing, had they posted in the same manner. "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom If I didn't have patience, your name and ID would be in a message rule.. I know that you consider yourself smart by questioning almost everything that I or other MVPs say, but I consider behaviour like yours to be 'compulsive', as probably will many other people.. And no, I am not going to explain anything to you just so that your ego can take a boost.. if you are happy for the world and his dog to see you as a 'nitpicking' troll, then you are doing an excellent job.. For the record, you don't get me down at all.. your posts amuse me.. keep up the good work.. as long as you keep making yourself look bad, the rest of us can bask in your wake.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... *Mike Hall MS-MVP, Hmm, gets testy, and refuses to explain what "Official" versions mean to him* Bottom line, whether you lack patience or not (wonder why you post here if you possess those attributes), anything sold by MS to OEMs is "Official", and in this context does not mean qualifying as I ask simply ask you what "Official" was (too bad you cannot answer the question). Did I split your last hair Mikey? "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom It means whatever you want it to mean.. I am not in the mood to split hairs with anybody right about now.. perhaps you might want to ask the OP directly as to whether she understood what point I was making.. whatever makes you happy.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... But, those are "official" versions right (as long as they come with the certifiable documentation, e.g. COA label, etc)? But I guess it needed to be pointed out that "qualifying" media is what she needs. "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... An OEM recovery CD maybe?.. as opposed to an OEM CD bought with a piece of hardware or retail version? -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... An OEM version is not official? Please elaborate, as I thought any legally purchased versions of Windows are "official". "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Lynne It is not easy to see what you hope to gain by doing this, other than the fact that you will have an official Windows CD.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne |
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No, not my goal to complain about your lack of patience or virtues thereof
of an MVP. I don't care that you really have those initials, they only mean as much as the person who wants to represent those letters. I criticize when I feel it is needed, and it is something I don't do with some kind of pleasure. As such, I also take criticism, and find fault in myself when it is pointed out to me, I have no problem with that as well. You simply got bent over simple question, somehow tying it to your personal vision of what my persona is to you, that I am not really asking the question that I did, if for some ulterior motives; that is your problem, not mine. I take words for what they are in these forums, without placing some personality that I may or may not know exist, to those those words. I also do not make words mean something else, that isn't standard, hence why I asked you straight up what you meant, though such a request seemed a bit more than you could handle. Time to move on now! "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom I have seen your posts in other newsgroups, as well you know.. you have a tendency to want to criticize others, especially if they are using terms other than what you feel they should.. good for you.. Re. my status as an MVP, if Microsoft feel that my standard of support no longer qualifies for the status, I will lose it.. MVP is not a lifetime award.. it has to be earned yearly.. You are going to have to wait until 2006 to see the outcome.. either that or complain to the MVP organisation about my performance.. e-mail me, and I will send you the IDs of people to whom you can forward complaints.. maybe you could get me struck of before 2006.. would that make you feel better?.. your call.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... I personally do not care if you had me in your message filters, killfiles are people who typically avoid seeing their words pointed out to them when they are wrong or inconclusive with their words (as MPT does to so many, when they point out to her, as she violates her own rules). I simply asked you a question, if you don't want to explain it, that is perfectly fine and I don't care; it shows your willingness to explain what this means to you as you get festered over it, as well as shows your level of an MVP, IMHO. Anyway, my second reponse was a legitmnate question, which was: But, those are "official" versions right (as long as they come with the certifiable documentation, e.g. COA label, etc)? You then get testy with the "I'm not in the mood for splitting hairs" thingie, LOL. Maybe you should give it up for a time, or take some strong muscle relaxers before doing newsgroup readings and replies. Note, my original questions were not nasty, nor were they posted to get a rise, I would have asked any other the very same thing, had they posted in the same manner. "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom If I didn't have patience, your name and ID would be in a message rule.. I know that you consider yourself smart by questioning almost everything that I or other MVPs say, but I consider behaviour like yours to be 'compulsive', as probably will many other people.. And no, I am not going to explain anything to you just so that your ego can take a boost.. if you are happy for the world and his dog to see you as a 'nitpicking' troll, then you are doing an excellent job.. For the record, you don't get me down at all.. your posts amuse me.. keep up the good work.. as long as you keep making yourself look bad, the rest of us can bask in your wake.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... *Mike Hall MS-MVP, Hmm, gets testy, and refuses to explain what "Official" versions mean to him* Bottom line, whether you lack patience or not (wonder why you post here if you possess those attributes), anything sold by MS to OEMs is "Official", and in this context does not mean qualifying as I ask simply ask you what "Official" was (too bad you cannot answer the question). Did I split your last hair Mikey? "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom It means whatever you want it to mean.. I am not in the mood to split hairs with anybody right about now.. perhaps you might want to ask the OP directly as to whether she understood what point I was making.. whatever makes you happy.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... But, those are "official" versions right (as long as they come with the certifiable documentation, e.g. COA label, etc)? But I guess it needed to be pointed out that "qualifying" media is what she needs. "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... An OEM recovery CD maybe?.. as opposed to an OEM CD bought with a piece of hardware or retail version? -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... An OEM version is not official? Please elaborate, as I thought any legally purchased versions of Windows are "official". "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Lynne It is not easy to see what you hope to gain by doing this, other than the fact that you will have an official Windows CD.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne |
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Yes, I made the restore/recovery disks that Compaq setup suggested. I guess
that is the same thing as a backup of the restore partition. I didn't make a backup set, which is an excellent idea. I do have another question regarding transfering data files if I go the 2nd hard drive route (I have 2 on my other computer and it's a nice option). I use Outlook Express - will my e-mails transfer as well from old to new? OE would be installed w/IE, so, the program would be available in the new setup. I have Norton SystemWorks Premier (or whatever they call it - it has a full version of Ghost) - I'll read up on it, too. I agree, it would transfer all of the content intact, but the OEM OS would be a part of the process. I don't mind doing fresh installs of the other programs and hardware drivers, but I'm not crazy about the tweaking and customizing of Windows itself. But, I'll gladly do it so I can have my own version of XP rather than having to settle for what Compaq thinks I need. This computer is the first one I've ever bought from a retailer. It was too good a deal to pass up. We've always had ours custom built and then upgraded as we saw fit. This has been a whole new experience for me. I've been really happy with it and it's running great. I've just got this "bug" to get finally make it my own now that the warranty is up. I'll be installing a new video card as well. I play a lot of computer games (adventure, not action) and higher quality graphics is important. Again, thank you. I appreciate your input - Lynne "Kerry Brown" *o*m wrote in message ... "Lynne" wrote in message news:Cgf1e.4645$Mt5.3453@fed1read01... I wondered why he just kept repeating himself, rather than actually responding to my question. This was online, with both of us typing, so it got a little redundant. I kept asking and he kept giving me the same answer. When I told him I doubted I was the only person on the planet that wanted to do this, I got a "I've given you the correct answer, deal with it" type of response. Now, I'm mulling over the wisdom of buying a brand new hard drive (as a 2nd drive - set as the master) and starting from that point, keeping my current drive (with everything I've accumulated for the past year intact) as a 2nd drive. I think I read somewhere that I can transfer old files and settings from old drive to new during the installation. I'll do some more research. Anyone have any advice on trying this avenue or am I making a simple process even more complicated? Lynne Having a second drive can be a nice option. You can store backups on the second drive. Before going any further, have you made backup CD/DVD's of the restore partition? I would do this before proceeding. Then in the worst case scenario or if you want to sell the computer in the future you can restore it to the factory settings. Once you have a verified CD/DVD backup make a second copy. Then you can delete the restore partition and do whatever you want regarding hard drives, partitioning etc. You can transfer some program settings and all of your data files to a new install from a second hard drive. In most cases you can't transfer the actual programs. They will need to be reinstalled. If you use any of the original Compaq supplied programs this isn't possible without restoring the whole setup. It's a catch-22 with most brand name PC's. It is possible using the installation software supplied with some hard drives or programs like Norton Ghost to make a clone of your old hard drive to the new one and proceed from there. You would still run into the original upgrade problem of OEM to Retail possibly not working unless you format and do a clean install. At least you would still have your original setup on the old drive if needed. You may also have to disconnect the old drive while doing the install. Windows will see the OEM XP on the second drive and may not allow install. You would also have to take ownership of the files on the second drive after doing a clean install. The procedure is he http://support.microsoft.com/default...308421&sd=tech Kerry |
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When your answers to people are beyond reproach and correct in every way, then you have a case to criticize others.. presently, you are a long way off of the mark and you know it.. I took task with you originally because your contributions do little to help OPs, and your criticisms of those that do try to help also have little value.. I assume that you will strive to improve as you expect others so to do.. See you around the newsgroups.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... No, not my goal to complain about your lack of patience or virtues thereof of an MVP. I don't care that you really have those initials, they only mean as much as the person who wants to represent those letters. I criticize when I feel it is needed, and it is something I don't do with some kind of pleasure. As such, I also take criticism, and find fault in myself when it is pointed out to me, I have no problem with that as well. You simply got bent over simple question, somehow tying it to your personal vision of what my persona is to you, that I am not really asking the question that I did, if for some ulterior motives; that is your problem, not mine. I take words for what they are in these forums, without placing some personality that I may or may not know exist, to those those words. I also do not make words mean something else, that isn't standard, hence why I asked you straight up what you meant, though such a request seemed a bit more than you could handle. Time to move on now! "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom I have seen your posts in other newsgroups, as well you know.. you have a tendency to want to criticize others, especially if they are using terms other than what you feel they should.. good for you.. Re. my status as an MVP, if Microsoft feel that my standard of support no longer qualifies for the status, I will lose it.. MVP is not a lifetime award.. it has to be earned yearly.. You are going to have to wait until 2006 to see the outcome.. either that or complain to the MVP organisation about my performance.. e-mail me, and I will send you the IDs of people to whom you can forward complaints.. maybe you could get me struck of before 2006.. would that make you feel better?.. your call.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... I personally do not care if you had me in your message filters, killfiles are people who typically avoid seeing their words pointed out to them when they are wrong or inconclusive with their words (as MPT does to so many, when they point out to her, as she violates her own rules). I simply asked you a question, if you don't want to explain it, that is perfectly fine and I don't care; it shows your willingness to explain what this means to you as you get festered over it, as well as shows your level of an MVP, IMHO. Anyway, my second reponse was a legitmnate question, which was: But, those are "official" versions right (as long as they come with the certifiable documentation, e.g. COA label, etc)? You then get testy with the "I'm not in the mood for splitting hairs" thingie, LOL. Maybe you should give it up for a time, or take some strong muscle relaxers before doing newsgroup readings and replies. Note, my original questions were not nasty, nor were they posted to get a rise, I would have asked any other the very same thing, had they posted in the same manner. "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom If I didn't have patience, your name and ID would be in a message rule.. I know that you consider yourself smart by questioning almost everything that I or other MVPs say, but I consider behaviour like yours to be 'compulsive', as probably will many other people.. And no, I am not going to explain anything to you just so that your ego can take a boost.. if you are happy for the world and his dog to see you as a 'nitpicking' troll, then you are doing an excellent job.. For the record, you don't get me down at all.. your posts amuse me.. keep up the good work.. as long as you keep making yourself look bad, the rest of us can bask in your wake.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... *Mike Hall MS-MVP, Hmm, gets testy, and refuses to explain what "Official" versions mean to him* Bottom line, whether you lack patience or not (wonder why you post here if you possess those attributes), anything sold by MS to OEMs is "Official", and in this context does not mean qualifying as I ask simply ask you what "Official" was (too bad you cannot answer the question). Did I split your last hair Mikey? "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom It means whatever you want it to mean.. I am not in the mood to split hairs with anybody right about now.. perhaps you might want to ask the OP directly as to whether she understood what point I was making.. whatever makes you happy.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... But, those are "official" versions right (as long as they come with the certifiable documentation, e.g. COA label, etc)? But I guess it needed to be pointed out that "qualifying" media is what she needs. "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... An OEM recovery CD maybe?.. as opposed to an OEM CD bought with a piece of hardware or retail version? -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... An OEM version is not official? Please elaborate, as I thought any legally purchased versions of Windows are "official". "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Lynne It is not easy to see what you hope to gain by doing this, other than the fact that you will have an official Windows CD.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne |
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news:gOg1e.5855$Mt5.3543@fed1read01... Yes, I made the restore/recovery disks that Compaq setup suggested. I guess that is the same thing as a backup of the restore partition. I didn't make a backup set, which is an excellent idea. I do have another question regarding transfering data files if I go the 2nd hard drive route (I have 2 on my other computer and it's a nice option). I use Outlook Express - will my e-mails transfer as well from old to new? OE would be installed w/IE, so, the program would be available in the new setup. I have Norton SystemWorks Premier (or whatever they call it - it has a full version of Ghost) - I'll read up on it, too. I agree, it would transfer all of the content intact, but the OEM OS would be a part of the process. I don't mind doing fresh installs of the other programs and hardware drivers, but I'm not crazy about the tweaking and customizing of Windows itself. But, I'll gladly do it so I can have my own version of XP rather than having to settle for what Compaq thinks I need. This computer is the first one I've ever bought from a retailer. It was too good a deal to pass up. We've always had ours custom built and then upgraded as we saw fit. This has been a whole new experience for me. I've been really happy with it and it's running great. I've just got this "bug" to get finally make it my own now that the warranty is up. I'll be installing a new video card as well. I play a lot of computer games (adventure, not action) and higher quality graphics is important. Again, thank you. I appreciate your input - Lynne To import/export emails in Outlook Express http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;257173 From everything you've said so far I think the best option is to do a clean install on a new drive keeping your old drive intact. Copy over whatever data you need once the install is done. Keep the old drive as is for a few weeks to make sure you're not missing anything. Once you are sure you have everything you need format the old drive and use it for something else. Kerry |
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I agree - that's what I did with my other computer - clean installation on
the new disk, then reinstalled, etc. as I went along. I think I kept the old disk contents intact for a good month or so. Now, I use it for backup. I'd forgotten that this was what I'd done. Thanks for reminding me. Lynne "Kerry Brown" *o*m wrote in message ... "Lynne" wrote in message news:gOg1e.5855$Mt5.3543@fed1read01... Yes, I made the restore/recovery disks that Compaq setup suggested. I guess that is the same thing as a backup of the restore partition. I didn't make a backup set, which is an excellent idea. I do have another question regarding transfering data files if I go the 2nd hard drive route (I have 2 on my other computer and it's a nice option). I use Outlook Express - will my e-mails transfer as well from old to new? OE would be installed w/IE, so, the program would be available in the new setup. I have Norton SystemWorks Premier (or whatever they call it - it has a full version of Ghost) - I'll read up on it, too. I agree, it would transfer all of the content intact, but the OEM OS would be a part of the process. I don't mind doing fresh installs of the other programs and hardware drivers, but I'm not crazy about the tweaking and customizing of Windows itself. But, I'll gladly do it so I can have my own version of XP rather than having to settle for what Compaq thinks I need. This computer is the first one I've ever bought from a retailer. It was too good a deal to pass up. We've always had ours custom built and then upgraded as we saw fit. This has been a whole new experience for me. I've been really happy with it and it's running great. I've just got this "bug" to get finally make it my own now that the warranty is up. I'll be installing a new video card as well. I play a lot of computer games (adventure, not action) and higher quality graphics is important. Again, thank you. I appreciate your input - Lynne To import/export emails in Outlook Express http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;257173 From everything you've said so far I think the best option is to do a clean install on a new drive keeping your old drive intact. Copy over whatever data you need once the install is done. Keep the old drive as is for a few weeks to make sure you're not missing anything. Once you are sure you have everything you need format the old drive and use it for something else. Kerry |
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Whatever, you obviously pick and choose what I post to see what help I don't
give for your own defense, and I give answers here that are of help quite often. I have read your posts also, and you complain about something I do, then violate that by doing it also. If you want "Official" to mean something to you, then that is fine, you have shown already that words mean something to you other than mainstream meanings. Considering what I first approached you on about your use of words, the OP has an Official install of XP on her PC. I asked you a question regarding your term, and again as usual, your penchant for looking into things more than I do, is your problem, not mine. Keep in mind your comment regarding what help one offers around here, then we'll see how much you give, and how you criticize, or not criticize others that give almost no help here, and belittle others). "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom When your answers to people are beyond reproach and correct in every way, then you have a case to criticize others.. presently, you are a long way off of the mark and you know it.. I took task with you originally because your contributions do little to help OPs, and your criticisms of those that do try to help also have little value.. I assume that you will strive to improve as you expect others so to do.. See you around the newsgroups.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... No, not my goal to complain about your lack of patience or virtues thereof of an MVP. I don't care that you really have those initials, they only mean as much as the person who wants to represent those letters. I criticize when I feel it is needed, and it is something I don't do with some kind of pleasure. As such, I also take criticism, and find fault in myself when it is pointed out to me, I have no problem with that as well. You simply got bent over simple question, somehow tying it to your personal vision of what my persona is to you, that I am not really asking the question that I did, if for some ulterior motives; that is your problem, not mine. I take words for what they are in these forums, without placing some personality that I may or may not know exist, to those those words. I also do not make words mean something else, that isn't standard, hence why I asked you straight up what you meant, though such a request seemed a bit more than you could handle. Time to move on now! "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom I have seen your posts in other newsgroups, as well you know.. you have a tendency to want to criticize others, especially if they are using terms other than what you feel they should.. good for you.. Re. my status as an MVP, if Microsoft feel that my standard of support no longer qualifies for the status, I will lose it.. MVP is not a lifetime award.. it has to be earned yearly.. You are going to have to wait until 2006 to see the outcome.. either that or complain to the MVP organisation about my performance.. e-mail me, and I will send you the IDs of people to whom you can forward complaints.. maybe you could get me struck of before 2006.. would that make you feel better?.. your call.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... I personally do not care if you had me in your message filters, killfiles are people who typically avoid seeing their words pointed out to them when they are wrong or inconclusive with their words (as MPT does to so many, when they point out to her, as she violates her own rules). I simply asked you a question, if you don't want to explain it, that is perfectly fine and I don't care; it shows your willingness to explain what this means to you as you get festered over it, as well as shows your level of an MVP, IMHO. Anyway, my second reponse was a legitmnate question, which was: But, those are "official" versions right (as long as they come with the certifiable documentation, e.g. COA label, etc)? You then get testy with the "I'm not in the mood for splitting hairs" thingie, LOL. Maybe you should give it up for a time, or take some strong muscle relaxers before doing newsgroup readings and replies. Note, my original questions were not nasty, nor were they posted to get a rise, I would have asked any other the very same thing, had they posted in the same manner. "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom If I didn't have patience, your name and ID would be in a message rule.. I know that you consider yourself smart by questioning almost everything that I or other MVPs say, but I consider behaviour like yours to be 'compulsive', as probably will many other people.. And no, I am not going to explain anything to you just so that your ego can take a boost.. if you are happy for the world and his dog to see you as a 'nitpicking' troll, then you are doing an excellent job.. For the record, you don't get me down at all.. your posts amuse me.. keep up the good work.. as long as you keep making yourself look bad, the rest of us can bask in your wake.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... *Mike Hall MS-MVP, Hmm, gets testy, and refuses to explain what "Official" versions mean to him* Bottom line, whether you lack patience or not (wonder why you post here if you possess those attributes), anything sold by MS to OEMs is "Official", and in this context does not mean qualifying as I ask simply ask you what "Official" was (too bad you cannot answer the question). Did I split your last hair Mikey? "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom It means whatever you want it to mean.. I am not in the mood to split hairs with anybody right about now.. perhaps you might want to ask the OP directly as to whether she understood what point I was making.. whatever makes you happy.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... But, those are "official" versions right (as long as they come with the certifiable documentation, e.g. COA label, etc)? But I guess it needed to be pointed out that "qualifying" media is what she needs. "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... An OEM recovery CD maybe?.. as opposed to an OEM CD bought with a piece of hardware or retail version? -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... An OEM version is not official? Please elaborate, as I thought any legally purchased versions of Windows are "official". "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Lynne It is not easy to see what you hope to gain by doing this, other than the fact that you will have an official Windows CD.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne |
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You do to others what you do to me.. none of us care particularly, and you just get seen for the supercilious nitpicking idiot that you are.. From this date on, I will no longer reply to you as long threads like this one do not help the people who have problems.. you are unwilling to share your e-mail ID with me, so I can only assume that your purpose in life is attempting to humiliate others in public.. good for you.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... Whatever, you obviously pick and choose what I post to see what help I don't give for your own defense, and I give answers here that are of help quite often. I have read your posts also, and you complain about something I do, then violate that by doing it also. If you want "Official" to mean something to you, then that is fine, you have shown already that words mean something to you other than mainstream meanings. Considering what I first approached you on about your use of words, the OP has an Official install of XP on her PC. I asked you a question regarding your term, and again as usual, your penchant for looking into things more than I do, is your problem, not mine. Keep in mind your comment regarding what help one offers around here, then we'll see how much you give, and how you criticize, or not criticize others that give almost no help here, and belittle others). "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom When your answers to people are beyond reproach and correct in every way, then you have a case to criticize others.. presently, you are a long way off of the mark and you know it.. I took task with you originally because your contributions do little to help OPs, and your criticisms of those that do try to help also have little value.. I assume that you will strive to improve as you expect others so to do.. See you around the newsgroups.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... No, not my goal to complain about your lack of patience or virtues thereof of an MVP. I don't care that you really have those initials, they only mean as much as the person who wants to represent those letters. I criticize when I feel it is needed, and it is something I don't do with some kind of pleasure. As such, I also take criticism, and find fault in myself when it is pointed out to me, I have no problem with that as well. You simply got bent over simple question, somehow tying it to your personal vision of what my persona is to you, that I am not really asking the question that I did, if for some ulterior motives; that is your problem, not mine. I take words for what they are in these forums, without placing some personality that I may or may not know exist, to those those words. I also do not make words mean something else, that isn't standard, hence why I asked you straight up what you meant, though such a request seemed a bit more than you could handle. Time to move on now! "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom I have seen your posts in other newsgroups, as well you know.. you have a tendency to want to criticize others, especially if they are using terms other than what you feel they should.. good for you.. Re. my status as an MVP, if Microsoft feel that my standard of support no longer qualifies for the status, I will lose it.. MVP is not a lifetime award.. it has to be earned yearly.. You are going to have to wait until 2006 to see the outcome.. either that or complain to the MVP organisation about my performance.. e-mail me, and I will send you the IDs of people to whom you can forward complaints.. maybe you could get me struck of before 2006.. would that make you feel better?.. your call.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... I personally do not care if you had me in your message filters, killfiles are people who typically avoid seeing their words pointed out to them when they are wrong or inconclusive with their words (as MPT does to so many, when they point out to her, as she violates her own rules). I simply asked you a question, if you don't want to explain it, that is perfectly fine and I don't care; it shows your willingness to explain what this means to you as you get festered over it, as well as shows your level of an MVP, IMHO. Anyway, my second reponse was a legitmnate question, which was: But, those are "official" versions right (as long as they come with the certifiable documentation, e.g. COA label, etc)? You then get testy with the "I'm not in the mood for splitting hairs" thingie, LOL. Maybe you should give it up for a time, or take some strong muscle relaxers before doing newsgroup readings and replies. Note, my original questions were not nasty, nor were they posted to get a rise, I would have asked any other the very same thing, had they posted in the same manner. "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom If I didn't have patience, your name and ID would be in a message rule.. I know that you consider yourself smart by questioning almost everything that I or other MVPs say, but I consider behaviour like yours to be 'compulsive', as probably will many other people.. And no, I am not going to explain anything to you just so that your ego can take a boost.. if you are happy for the world and his dog to see you as a 'nitpicking' troll, then you are doing an excellent job.. For the record, you don't get me down at all.. your posts amuse me.. keep up the good work.. as long as you keep making yourself look bad, the rest of us can bask in your wake.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... *Mike Hall MS-MVP, Hmm, gets testy, and refuses to explain what "Official" versions mean to him* Bottom line, whether you lack patience or not (wonder why you post here if you possess those attributes), anything sold by MS to OEMs is "Official", and in this context does not mean qualifying as I ask simply ask you what "Official" was (too bad you cannot answer the question). Did I split your last hair Mikey? "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Tom It means whatever you want it to mean.. I am not in the mood to split hairs with anybody right about now.. perhaps you might want to ask the OP directly as to whether she understood what point I was making.. whatever makes you happy.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... But, those are "official" versions right (as long as they come with the certifiable documentation, e.g. COA label, etc)? But I guess it needed to be pointed out that "qualifying" media is what she needs. "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... An OEM recovery CD maybe?.. as opposed to an OEM CD bought with a piece of hardware or retail version? -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Tom" wrote in message ... An OEM version is not official? Please elaborate, as I thought any legally purchased versions of Windows are "official". "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message ... Lynne It is not easy to see what you hope to gain by doing this, other than the fact that you will have an official Windows CD.. -- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Lynne" wrote in message news:LA41e.2537$Mt5.2186@fed1read01... I have a Compaq Presario, with Win XP home, OEM preinstalled. Now that the 1 year warranty is finally up, I want to install the retail version of XP Home and get rid of the presinstalled version. My question, posed to Compaq tech support, was whether I can install the upgrade, not full, retail version of XP Home over the existing OEM version that came preinstalled on the computer. Compaq says NO, that I must purchase the full version of XP Home. Is this correct? And, if it is NOT correct, is there some place I can get step-by-step instructions on how to install the upgrade version? Thanks. Lynne |
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