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Old December 29th 17, 11:09 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
swalker
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Time for a new laptop. Preferred is about a 17 inch screen.

Not many available locally in retail stores. Found one -HP- at Sams
that will work but it is really setuip to be used as a touch sceen
which will not work for the jobs I use it for.

I need a mouse. Period.

Can I actually use a mouse with one of these Win10 trouch screen
laptops?

Thanks
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Old December 29th 17, 11:25 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Boris[_4_]
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swalker wrote in news:[email protected]
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Time for a new laptop. Preferred is about a 17 inch screen.

Not many available locally in retail stores. Found one -HP- at Sams
that will work but it is really setuip to be used as a touch sceen
which will not work for the jobs I use it for.

I need a mouse. Period.

Can I actually use a mouse with one of these Win10 trouch screen
laptops?

Thanks


You sure can. A wired or wireless mouse will work just fine. My wife
prefers a wireless mosue on her Win10 touchscreen laptop. And, the touchpad
will also work just fine.
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Old December 29th 17, 11:53 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default New laptop

swalker wrote:

Time for a new laptop. Preferred is about a 17 inch screen.

Not many available locally in retail stores. Found one -HP- at Sams
that will work but it is really setuip to be used as a touch sceen
which will not work for the jobs I use it for.

I need a mouse. Period.

Can I actually use a mouse with one of these Win10 trouch screen
laptops?


Record the model. Go to the HP site to read its manual.

My guess: Plug in a USB mouse and you'll have 2 pointing devices, maybe
3 if the laptop has a touchpad, too. If you don't like the touchpad
registering touches because your palms are near, there will be a switch
in its bezel or a key combo to disable it. Shouldn't be a problem with
using a USB mouse and the touchscreen unless you have some weird config
that puts your hands near the screen when you are using the USB mouse.

Same goes for a USB keyboard. You don't have to use the one in the
laptop. You can plug in a USB keyboard that's bigger. You could even
tote the keyboard (and mouse) around but the convenience of the laptop
is lost unless you're merely transporting between different places where
it sits stationary.

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Old December 30th 17, 01:52 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Art Todesco
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Default New laptop (corrected)

On 12/29/2017 7:13 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-12-29 19:09, Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-12-29 18:09, swalker wrote:

Time for a new laptop. Preferred is about a 17 inch screen.

Not many available locally in retail stores. Found one -HP- at Sams
that will work but it is really setup to be used as a touch screen
which will not work for the jobs I use it for.

I need a mouse. Period.

Can I actually use a mouse with one of these Win10 touch screen
laptops?

Thanks


Yes. There may be exceptions to that "Yes", but I haven't come across
any.

Yet.

Does it have Bluetooth?
Does it have a USB Port? Use a USB mouse.
You can also use a USB port for wireless dongle to run a wireless mouse.


*Does it have Bluetooth? Use a Bluetooth mouse.

I picked up a rather generic bluetooth mouse for my laptop (which has
internal bluetooth) and it was really great. It recharges from a USB
cable and auto turns itself off when not in use or the PC is off. I
think this is the link where I got mine:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...01G3-_-Product

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Old December 30th 17, 07:08 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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Default New laptop

On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 17:53:24 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

swalker wrote:

Time for a new laptop. Preferred is about a 17 inch screen.

Not many available locally in retail stores. Found one -HP- at Sams
that will work but it is really setuip to be used as a touch sceen
which will not work for the jobs I use it for.

I need a mouse. Period.

Can I actually use a mouse with one of these Win10 trouch screen
laptops?


Record the model. Go to the HP site to read its manual.

My guess: Plug in a USB mouse and you'll have 2 pointing devices, maybe
3 if the laptop has a touchpad, too. If you don't like the touchpad
registering touches because your palms are near, there will be a switch
in its bezel or a key combo to disable it. Shouldn't be a problem with
using a USB mouse and the touchscreen unless you have some weird config
that puts your hands near the screen when you are using the USB mouse.

Same goes for a USB keyboard. You don't have to use the one in the
laptop. You can plug in a USB keyboard that's bigger. You could even
tote the keyboard (and mouse) around but the convenience of the laptop
is lost unless you're merely transporting between different places where
it sits stationary.


Extending things another step, I have one laptop here where I use a USB
keyboard, wireless USB mouse, and dual 24" monitors, so the laptop lid
remains closed and the laptop is actually out of sight. I don't consider
it a portable solution, but I have other laptops for that.

--

Char Jackson
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Old December 30th 17, 07:56 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Blake[_5_]
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Default New laptop

On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 13:08:47 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:


Extending things another step, I have one laptop here where I use a USB
keyboard, wireless USB mouse, and dual 24" monitors, so the laptop lid
remains closed and the laptop is actually out of sight. I don't consider
it a portable solution, but I have other laptops for that.





Just curious--why is it a laptop rather than a desktop?
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Old December 30th 17, 08:33 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Char Jackson wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

swalker wrote:

Time for a new laptop. Preferred is about a 17 inch screen.

Not many available locally in retail stores. Found one -HP- at Sams
that will work but it is really setuip to be used as a touch sceen
which will not work for the jobs I use it for.

I need a mouse. Period.

Can I actually use a mouse with one of these Win10 trouch screen
laptops?


Record the model. Go to the HP site to read its manual.

My guess: Plug in a USB mouse and you'll have 2 pointing devices,
maybe 3 if the laptop has a touchpad, too. If you don't like the
touchpad registering touches because your palms are near, there will
be a switch in its bezel or a key combo to disable it. Shouldn't be
a problem with using a USB mouse and the touchscreen unless you have
some weird config that puts your hands near the screen when you are
using the USB mouse.

Same goes for a USB keyboard. You don't have to use the one in the
laptop. You can plug in a USB keyboard that's bigger. You could
even tote the keyboard (and mouse) around but the convenience of the
laptop is lost unless you're merely transporting between different
places where it sits stationary.


Extending things another step, I have one laptop here where I use a USB
keyboard, wireless USB mouse, and dual 24" monitors, so the laptop lid
remains closed and the laptop is actually out of sight. I don't consider
it a portable solution, but I have other laptops for that.


I used a borrowed laptop (running Windows Vista ... ugh) as a temporary
substitute when my prior computer died (CPU went bad due to voltage
regulators going bad so mobo was bad, too). I configured it so it would
stay up when its lid was closed. I had a USB mouse and USB keyboard
connected to it along with the monitor. A lot slower but a lot better
than nothing. Since the laptop was stationary at home on my desk, I
didn't need a docking station; however, I did need a USB hub (just a
passive one for the mouse and keyboard) since the laptop was short on
USB ports (the other remaining USB port was for external drives). After
saving up enough money, got a new desktop PC and returned the borrowed
laptop but tweaked faster and cleaned up. Was glad to get off Vista.

My company gave me an IBM Thinkpad to tote between work and home because
I needed to monitor long-running software QA jobs back on the testbeds.
Rather than keep plugging stuff in at home, and although that laptop
just stayed at home for many months, they gave me a docking station.
The keyboard, mouse, and monitor (all theirs) stayed connected to the
dock so all I had to do was insert the laptop into the dock. The laptop
was made to be docked easily: just push the laptop down onto the dock
(the dock had a connector that fit a port on the laptop). Similar to
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16834988360.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIA6PF5VV8940
On sale at $80 for another 2 days (very pricey at $260 regularly). A
dock is only a convenience in not having to disconnect everything from
the laptop other than 1 or 2 connections. If the laptop is stationary,
a docking station is superfluous. If the laptop regularly moves, a
docking station is very handy.
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Old December 30th 17, 08:38 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul in Houston TX[_2_]
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Ken Blake wrote:
On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 13:08:47 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:

Extending things another step, I have one laptop here where I use a USB
keyboard, wireless USB mouse, and dual 24" monitors, so the laptop lid
remains closed and the laptop is actually out of sight. I don't consider
it a portable solution, but I have other laptops for that.


Just curious--why is it a laptop rather than a desktop?


Most of my co-workers use Lenovo laptops running Win7.
There are around 800 laptops. My guess is that about 90% of the laptops
are more or less permanently attached to docking stations with plug-in
kb's, mice, and two to three monitors.
When conditions warrant, the emnployees pack up their laptops and
evacuate. In Houston, they all left before the flood and continued working
from home or other accomodations via vpn to servers at one of our other offices.
We created that company wide emergency plan about 10 years ago.
The Houston office was closed for about one month but everyone kept working.

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Old December 31st 17, 05:15 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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Default New laptop

On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 12:56:26 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 13:08:47 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:

Extending things another step, I have one laptop here where I use a USB
keyboard, wireless USB mouse, and dual 24" monitors, so the laptop lid
remains closed and the laptop is actually out of sight. I don't consider
it a portable solution, but I have other laptops for that.





Just curious--why is it a laptop rather than a desktop?


My current employer buys new laptops for the team every few years. The
latest one is a beast, a Lenovo Thinkpad with 64GB RAM and i7 CPU, so I
treat it as non-portable, as I described above. It runs vmWare and
currently has 13 VMs running, utilizing a measly 59% of the RAM.

A previous company-provided laptop also has its lid closed and I access
that one via Remote Desktop, RDP. The laptop that I carry with me for
work is one that I bought myself.

The nice thing about the laptops (and 24" Asus monitors) that the
company provided is that all of that gear is gifted, meaning the team
members take immediate ownership. That means I can customize and upgrade
as I see fit, so for the newest Lenovo, which came with a small 250GB
SSD, I added two more SSDs (512GB and 1TB). That's the first laptop I've
owned that can accommodate 3 internal drives, thanks to the new small
m.2 (NVMe) form factor.

--

Char Jackson
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Old December 31st 17, 06:26 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Blake[_5_]
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Default New laptop

On Sun, 31 Dec 2017 11:15:07 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:


On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 12:56:26 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:


On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 13:08:47 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:


Extending things another step, I have one laptop here where I use a USB
keyboard, wireless USB mouse, and dual 24" monitors, so the laptop lid
remains closed and the laptop is actually out of sight. I don't consider
it a portable solution, but I have other laptops for that.





Just curious--why is it a laptop rather than a desktop?


My current employer buys new laptops for the team every few years. The
latest one is a beast, a Lenovo Thinkpad with 64GB RAM and i7 CPU, so I
treat it as non-portable, as I described above




Ah. Understood. That makes sense.
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Old January 2nd 18, 06:25 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
swalker
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 17:09:30 -0600, swalker wrote:


Time for a new laptop. Preferred is about a 17 inch screen.

Not many available locally in retail stores. Found one -HP- at Sams
that will work but it is really setuip to be used as a touch sceen
which will not work for the jobs I use it for.

I need a mouse. Period.

Can I actually use a mouse with one of these Win10 trouch screen
laptops?

Thanks



Appreciate the discussion.

This laptop will be used when I travel and do contract work on the
road. I will certainly use a wireless mouse.

On my desktop I use a Logitech wireless keyboard/mouse combo.

The keyboard is model K800 and the rechargeable battery can not be
replaced easily. Sort of irks me that a keyboard is considered
throw-away due to the lack being able to easily replace the battery.

The mouse is model M505 and I have worn a couple of them out in the
last 4 or 5 years.

Both of these items use Logitech Unifying software via a stick in the
USB port.

Thanks to everyone.

RTR
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Old January 2nd 18, 10:26 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default New laptop

swalker wrote:

The keyboard is model K800 and the rechargeable battery can not be
replaced easily. Sort of irks me that a keyboard is considered
throw-away due to the lack being able to easily replace the battery.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WExCUpkVx58

Seems rather easy to replace the batteries. Just remove one screw.
 




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