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Networking with XP pro
Chuck, I thought disabling the browser service at kids was pnly needed once.
You said I had to restart. This switches the service on again. Should I disable it so it can not start again after restarting the PC? cheers Paul "Chuck" schreef in bericht ... On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 16:46:36 +0100, "papaul" wrote: Chuck, the ipconfig data is identical to previous time I won't post it. browstatus is nearly identical: on main: Status for domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{9CFA8E41-985E-4A03-99E9-C5DB75556299} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master browser name is held by: MAIN Master browser is running build 2600 Status for domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{611DD3BB-EA01-458E-BCCF-F824AB40CE54} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master browser name is held by: MAIN Master browser is running build 2600 on kids: Status for domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{46085981-1C89-440E-BEC8-6E11701B149C} Browsing is active on domain. Master browser name is: KIDS Master browser is running build 2600 1 backup servers retrieved from master KIDS \\KIDS There are 1 servers in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{46085981-1C89-440E-BEC8-6E11701B149C} There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{46085981-1C89-440E-BEC8-6E11701B149C} ping still doesn't work, I did all the changes you proposed, and the registry setting was ok (value 0 for both PC's) Paul, Is that the complete output of each browstat? Did you check the browser on Main, and disable it on Kids, as I asked you to do? As I said earlier, once we have consistency (predictability), then it should be easier to see what's really wrong. By removing IPX (from how many computers?) we force CMN/FPSMN to use TCP/IP for file sharing This should make no change to the ping command, which only uses TCP/IP. Let's see what that does to "net view". Run the updated diagnosis macro below. Please verify that Kids is still using 192.168.0.105. Copy the code, precisely as it is keyed, into Notepad. Ensure that Format - Word Wrap is not checked. Save the file as "cdiag.cmd", as type "All Files", into the root folder "C:\". Run it by Start - Run - "c:\cdiag". Wait patiently. When Notepad opens up displaying c:\cdiag.txt, first check Format and ensure that Word Wrap is NOT checked! Then, copy the entire contents (Ctrl-A Ctrl-C) and paste it (Ctrl-V) into your next post. Do this from both computers, please. ####### @echo off set FullTargets=Kids 192.168.0.105 Main 192.168.0.1 set PingTargets=127.0.0.1 @echo Start diagnosis for %computername% (Targets %FullTargets%) c:\cdiag.txt for %%a in (%FullTargets% %PingTargets%) do ( @echo. c:\cdiag.txt @echo Target %%a c:\cdiag.txt @echo. c:\cdiag.txt @echo ping %%a c:\cdiag.txt @echo. c:\cdiag.txt ping %%a c:\cdiag.txt @echo. c:\cdiag.txt for %%b in (%PingTargets%) do (if %%a!==%%b! goto :End) @echo net view %%a c:\cdiag.txt @echo. c:\cdiag.txt net view %%a c:\cdiag.txt @echo. c:\cdiag.txt ) :End @echo End diagnosis for %computername% c:\cdiag.txt notepad c:\cdiag.txt :EOF ####### -- Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 19:37:50 +0100, "papaul" wrote:
Chuck, I thought disabling the browser service at kids was pnly needed once. You said I had to restart. This switches the service on again. Should I disable it so it can not start again after restarting the PC? cheers Paul Paul, If you Stop the browser on Kids, then set Startup type to Disabled, it should not start again. And the browser needs to be Started on Main, with Startup type Automatic, too. By setting both browsers as in the above procedure, shutting both computers down, then starting Main then Kids, both computers get synchronised with the identity of the master browser. Hopefully, after restarting, Main will be the only browser in your domain (workgroup). Were this a fully working LAN, several of the above steps would be redundant (mutually unnecessary). Since you do not have a working LAN, finding out what actually happens (as reflected by the many diagnostics you can run repeatedly), with each redundant step executed as requested, should give us a clue where your problems are. Then let's take a look at the complete browstat status from each. And the latest diagnostic macro (with ip addresses updated as necessary in the FullTargets line please). -- Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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Networking with XP pro
Ok chuck, when the browser service is disabled on kids,
I get this from browstat at main (switched off the other LAN): Status for domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{9CFA8E41-985E-4A03-99E9-C5DB75556299} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master browser name is held by: MAIN Master browser is running build 2600 And this on kids: Status for domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{46085981-1C89-440E-BEC8-6E11701B149C} Browsing is NOT active on domain. Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. When I do this with my laptop, I get identical results. Only when switching the service back on the 2nd PC, with the laptop I get to see MAIN when browstat runs at the laptop and the other way around. When I switch it on on kids, I get the same browstat result on main as described above. The ipconfig is now: main: (identical to what it was) Windows IP-configuratie Host-naam . . . . . . . . . . . .: Main Primair DNS-achtervoegsel. . . . .: Knooppunttype: . . . . . . . . . .: onbekend IP-routering ingeschakeld. . . . .: ja WINS-proxy ingeschakeld . . . . . : nee DNS-achtervoegselzoeklijst. . . . : mshome.net Ethernet-adapter LAN-verbinding 2: Verbindingsspec. DNS-achtervoegsel: Beschrijving . . . . . . . . . . .: VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter Fysiek adres. . . . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-E6-60-04-6E DHCP ingeschakeld:. . . . . . . . : nee IP-adres. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 Subnetmasker. . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Standaardgateway. . . . . . . . . : kids: (identical what it was, only ip address has changed) Windows IP-configuratie Host-naam . . . . . . . . . . . .: KIDS Primair DNS-achtervoegsel. . . . .: Knooppunttype . . . . . . . . . . : gemengd IP-routering ingeschakeld. . . . .: nee WINS-proxy ingeschakeld . . . . . : nee Ethernet-adapter LAN-verbinding 5: Verbindingsspec. DNS-achtervoegsel: mshome.net Beschrijving . . . . . . . . . . .: Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC Fysiek adres. . . . . . . . . . . : 00-40-F4-6E-FA-18 DHCP ingeshakeld. . . . . . . . . : ja Autom. configuratie ingeschakeld. : ja IP-adres. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.110 Subnetmasker. . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Standaardgateway. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 DHCP-server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 DNS-servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 Lease verkregen . . . . . . . . . : dinsdag 16 november 2004 20:57:01 Lease verlopen . . . . . . . . . : dinsdag 23 november 2004 20:57:01 So running your macro with the ip address adapted gives: main: Start diagnosis for MAIN (Targets Kids 192.168.0.110 Main 192.168.0.1) Target Kids ping Kids Pingen naar KIDS.mshome.net [192.168.0.110] met 32 byte gegevens:Time-out bij opdracht.Time-out bij opdracht.Time-out bij opdracht.Time-out bij opdracht.Ping-statistieken voor 192.168.0.110: Pakketten: verzonden = 4, ontvangen = 0, verloren = 4 (100% verlies). net view Kids Target 192.168.0.110 ping 192.168.0.110 Pingen naar 192.168.0.110 met 32 byte gegevens:Time-out bij opdracht.Time-out bij opdracht.Time-out bij opdracht.Time-out bij opdracht.Ping-statistieken voor 192.168.0.110: Pakketten: verzonden = 4, ontvangen = 0, verloren = 4 (100% verlies). net view 192.168.0.110 Target Main ping Main Pingen naar Main [81.59.157.198] met 32 byte gegevens:Antwoord van 81.59.157.198: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128Antwoord van 81.59.157.198: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128Antwoord van 81.59.157.198: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128Antwoord van 81.59.157.198: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128Ping-statistieken voor 81.59.157.198: Pakketten: verzonden = 4, ontvangen = 4, verloren = 0 (0% verlies).De gemiddelde tijd voor het uitvoeren van ,,n bewerking in milliseconden: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Gemiddelde = 0ms net view Main Gedeelde bronnen op Main Sharenaam Type Gebruikt als Opmerking ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Printer Printer EPSON Stylus COLOR 680 Printer2 Printer Microsoft Office Document Image Writer temp Schijf De opdracht is voltooid. Target 192.168.0.1 ping 192.168.0.1 Pingen naar 192.168.0.1 met 32 byte gegevens:Antwoord van 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128Antwoord van 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128Antwoord van 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128Antwoord van 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128Ping-statistieken voor 192.168.0.1: Pakketten: verzonden = 4, ontvangen = 4, verloren = 0 (0% verlies).De gemiddelde tijd voor het uitvoeren van ,,n bewerking in milliseconden: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Gemiddelde = 0ms net view 192.168.0.1 Gedeelde bronnen op 192.168.0.1 Sharenaam Type Gebruikt als Opmerking ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Printer Printer EPSON Stylus COLOR 680 Printer2 Printer Microsoft Office Document Image Writer temp Schijf De opdracht is voltooid. Target 127.0.0.1 ping 127.0.0.1 Pingen naar 127.0.0.1 met 32 byte gegevens:Antwoord van 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128Antwoord van 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128Antwoord van 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128Antwoord van 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128Ping-statistieken voor 127.0.0.1: Pakketten: verzonden = 4, ontvangen = 4, verloren = 0 (0% verlies).De gemiddelde tijd voor het uitvoeren van ,,n bewerking in milliseconden: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Gemiddelde = 0ms End diagnosis for MAIN and kids: Start diagnosis for KIDS (Targets Kids 192.168.0.110 Main 192.168.0.1) Target Kids ping Kids Pingen naar KIDS [192.168.0.110] met 32 byte gegevens: Antwoord van 192.168.0.110: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128 Antwoord van 192.168.0.110: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128 Antwoord van 192.168.0.110: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128 Antwoord van 192.168.0.110: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128 Ping-statistieken voor 192.168.0.110: Pakketten: verzonden = 4, ontvangen = 4, verloren = 0 (0% verlies).De gemiddelde tijd voor het uitvoeren van ,,n bewerking in milliseconden: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Gemiddelde = 0ms net view Kids Gedeelde bronnen op Kids Sharenaam Type Gebruikt als Opmerking ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Printer Printer EPSON Stylus COLOR 680 Printer2 Printer HP C LaserJet 4500-PS SharedDocs Schijf De opdracht is voltooid. Target 192.168.0.110 ping 192.168.0.110 Pingen naar 192.168.0.110 met 32 byte gegevens: Antwoord van 192.168.0.110: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128 Antwoord van 192.168.0.110: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128 Antwoord van 192.168.0.110: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128 Antwoord van 192.168.0.110: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128 Ping-statistieken voor 192.168.0.110: Pakketten: verzonden = 4, ontvangen = 4, verloren = 0 (0% verlies).De gemiddelde tijd voor het uitvoeren van ,,n bewerking in milliseconden: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Gemiddelde = 0ms net view 192.168.0.110 Gedeelde bronnen op 192.168.0.110 Sharenaam Type Gebruikt als Opmerking ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Printer Printer EPSON Stylus COLOR 680 Printer2 Printer HP C LaserJet 4500-PS SharedDocs Schijf De opdracht is voltooid. Target Main ping Main Pingen naar Main.mshome.net [192.168.0.1] met 32 byte gegevens: Antwoord van 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 tijd=2 ms TTL=128 Antwoord van 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 tijd=1 ms TTL=128 Antwoord van 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 tijd=2 ms TTL=128 Antwoord van 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 tijd=1 ms TTL=128 Ping-statistieken voor 192.168.0.1: Pakketten: verzonden = 4, ontvangen = 4, verloren = 0 (0% verlies).De gemiddelde tijd voor het uitvoeren van ,,n bewerking in milliseconden: Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 2ms, Gemiddelde = 1ms net view Main Gedeelde bronnen op Main Sharenaam Type Gebruikt als Opmerking ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Printer Printer EPSON Stylus COLOR 680 Printer2 Printer Microsoft Office Document Image Writer temp Schijf De opdracht is voltooid. Target 192.168.0.1 ping 192.168.0.1 Pingen naar 192.168.0.1 met 32 byte gegevens: Antwoord van 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 tijd=2 ms TTL=128 Antwoord van 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 tijd=2 ms TTL=128 Antwoord van 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 tijd=1 ms TTL=128 Antwoord van 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 tijd=2 ms TTL=128 Ping-statistieken voor 192.168.0.1: Pakketten: verzonden = 4, ontvangen = 4, verloren = 0 (0% verlies).De gemiddelde tijd voor het uitvoeren van ,,n bewerking in milliseconden: Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 2ms, Gemiddelde = 1ms net view 192.168.0.1 Gedeelde bronnen op 192.168.0.1 Sharenaam Type Gebruikt als Opmerking ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Printer Printer EPSON Stylus COLOR 680 Printer2 Printer Microsoft Office Document Image Writer temp Schijf De opdracht is voltooid. Target 127.0.0.1 ping 127.0.0.1 Pingen naar 127.0.0.1 met 32 byte gegevens: Antwoord van 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128 Antwoord van 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128 Antwoord van 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128 Antwoord van 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 tijd1 ms TTL=128 Ping-statistieken voor 127.0.0.1: Pakketten: verzonden = 4, ontvangen = 4, verloren = 0 (0% verlies).De gemiddelde tijd voor het uitvoeren van ,,n bewerking in milliseconden: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Gemiddelde = 0ms End diagnosis for KIDS "Chuck" schreef in bericht ... On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 19:37:50 +0100, "papaul" wrote: Chuck, I thought disabling the browser service at kids was pnly needed once. You said I had to restart. This switches the service on again. Should I disable it so it can not start again after restarting the PC? cheers Paul Paul, If you Stop the browser on Kids, then set Startup type to Disabled, it should not start again. And the browser needs to be Started on Main, with Startup type Automatic, too. By setting both browsers as in the above procedure, shutting both computers down, then starting Main then Kids, both computers get synchronised with the identity of the master browser. Hopefully, after restarting, Main will be the only browser in your domain (workgroup). Were this a fully working LAN, several of the above steps would be redundant (mutually unnecessary). Since you do not have a working LAN, finding out what actually happens (as reflected by the many diagnostics you can run repeatedly), with each redundant step executed as requested, should give us a clue where your problems are. Then let's take a look at the complete browstat status from each. And the latest diagnostic macro (with ip addresses updated as necessary in the FullTargets line please). -- Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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Chuck,
I decided to quit solving the problem and cleanly install XP again. I figured out it will take less time for me. thanks for all your help Paul |
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:36:40 +0100, "papaul" wrote:
Chuck, I decided to quit solving the problem and cleanly install XP again. I figured out it will take less time for me. thanks for all your help Paul Paul, Thanks for the update. Please let us know it works out. -- Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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Networking with XP pro
Installing XP again really worked perfectly: networking goes flawlessly now!
thanks again for all the help Paul "Chuck" schreef in bericht ... On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 22:36:40 +0100, "papaul" wrote: Chuck, I decided to quit solving the problem and cleanly install XP again. I figured out it will take less time for me. thanks for all your help Paul Paul, Thanks for the update. Please let us know it works out. -- Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:33:42 +0100, "papaul" wrote:
Installing XP again really worked perfectly: networking goes flawlessly now! thanks again for all the help Paul That's good to hear, Paul. Thanks for the update. -- Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing. |
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